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SportsAndrew25
10-23-2011, 12:46 AM
I just wanted to ask the PSD Baseball Community what team do you think he will sign with and how much do you think Pujols will get?

TrueYankee
10-23-2011, 12:48 AM
Cardinals 10 years $220M (22M per season)

Buckwheat
10-23-2011, 12:55 AM
I literally have no idea. I'm sure it will be the Cardinals or Cubs for about 10 years/250 million..

"Ace"ves
10-23-2011, 12:59 AM
Cardinals 10 years $220M (22M per season)

Id say around this... maybe a tad higher, but basically this

T 980
10-23-2011, 01:07 AM
Whatever he wants, lol

KingPosey
10-23-2011, 01:08 AM
cardinals and 230mill+, now how many years idk.

KingPosey
10-23-2011, 01:08 AM
Whatever he wants, lol

This is accurrate haha

abe_froman
10-23-2011, 01:14 AM
Cardinals 10 years $220M (22M per season)

this

VRP723
10-23-2011, 01:17 AM
I don't see how anyone in their right mind goes 10 years. I'll guess 8 years 180.

More-Than-Most
10-23-2011, 01:18 AM
Even if they give him 250 million he will likely make them almost double that in his remaining time there...Even if the last few years are terrible I could still see him being worth his contract plus.

Gabbert4TheWin
10-23-2011, 01:19 AM
If he wins another World Series you got to assume he will be back with the Cardinals

Buckwheat
10-23-2011, 01:20 AM
I don't see how anyone in their right mind goes 10 years. I'll guess 8 years 180.

I do.

Lim
10-23-2011, 01:28 AM
I don't see how anyone in their right mind goes 10 years. I'll guess 8 years 180.

lol wat. guy is one of the best ever. id have no problem if my team gave him 10 years.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jUBbCgMWmE

TO Rapz
10-23-2011, 01:40 AM
8-10 years, 220 - 250 M , with the Cards.

Gibbs
10-23-2011, 01:41 AM
8-225 mill 27 a yr he could probably even get 30 a yr I think that is a done deal for STL

Gibbs
10-23-2011, 01:42 AM
IF they dont offer atleast 27 a yr he could walk to a different club

hoggin88
10-23-2011, 01:45 AM
I don't think he'll get the 10 year deal. I do think 8 years, probably between 27 and 30 mil per year.

I mean honestly, how many teams would want to be paying anyone 30 mil/yr at age 41?

Buckwheat
10-23-2011, 01:47 AM
I don't think he'll get the 10 year deal. I do think 8 years, probably between 27 and 30 mil per year.

I mean honestly, how many teams would want to be paying anyone 30 mil/yr at age 41?

After tonight?

Including the Cardinals, I'd say roughly 30.

hoggin88
10-23-2011, 01:51 AM
After tonight?

Including the Cardinals, I'd say roughly 30.

If I can be guaranteed that he will hit 3 hr's in game 3 of the World Series for the Cubs at age 41...

Then sign me up!!!

Buckwheat
10-23-2011, 01:53 AM
If I can be guaranteed that he will hit 3 hr's in game 3 of the World Series for the Cubs at age 41...

Then sign me up!!!

I don't even need that. I'd be willing to give him 10/300 if it meant a World Series trophy for the Cubs.

redbird89
10-23-2011, 01:54 AM
I think Albert will stay with the Cardinals, but I don't think he'll get $300 million, even with this performance tonight. With the Red Sox, Yankees, and Dodgers not involved, the price probably won't get as high.

I expect the Cardinals and Albert to probably work out some kind of deal. St. Louis definitely makes the most sense for Albert, so I don't see Albert leaving unless some other team gives him an offer that is way beyond what the Cardinals offer.

The Cubs possibly could be a factor, but it really doesn't seem like Chicago would be a good fit for Albert. Albert has said that he hates Wrigley Field and he seems to hate media scrutiny. I'm not sure the crazy media market that is Chicago would be great for him. Of course, it's mostly about money. That said, as good as Albert is, it takes a lot more than just one player to get to the World Series. You need a good team built around him.

I don't think I would want to get sign any 31-year-old to a 10 year/$300 million contract. It's not possible to guarantee that he won't get hurt or sharply decline. He hasn't been DLed a lot so far, but he does have nagging injuries that could get worse over the years.

If Albert does go somewhere else then it will hurt, but the Cardinals will survive. I'd rather have a competitive team without Albert than a non-competitive team with his large contract.

TrueYankee
10-23-2011, 01:56 AM
I think 10/300 is over board. No one is worth that kinda money in my opinion. Pujols is what 27 years old? I think a 10 year deal that brings him to age 37 is realistic, but not for $300M. If you think about it..Arod is already 36 and he still has another 5 or 6 years to go :(

So...signing Pujols on a 10 year deal is VERY realistic, plus he's 10X better than Arod

Buckwheat
10-23-2011, 02:00 AM
I think 10/300 is over board. No one is worth that kinda money in my opinion. Pujols is what 27 years old? I think a 10 year deal that brings him to age 37 is realistic, but not for $300M. If you think about it..Arod is already 36 and he still has another 5 or 6 years to go :(

So...signing Pujols on a 10 year deal is VERY realistic, plus he's 10X better than Arod

are you... serious?

Pittz
10-23-2011, 02:01 AM
Pujols is 31 lol.

Pittz
10-23-2011, 02:02 AM
445 home runs and 11 seasons played at 27 would be fairly impressive.

TrueYankee
10-23-2011, 02:05 AM
IF they dont offer atleast 27 a yr he could walk to a different club


are you... serious?

My bad mis-read Gibb's reply. Thought he said they dont offer a 27 yr old..read to quick.

In that case...10 years is alot haha. 8 sounds good now :D

salimstoudamire
10-23-2011, 03:03 AM
Even though I may have been in a homer state of mind, before the Howard injury, I could have sworn Pujols would test the free agent market. Then the Phillies would turn around and trade Howard to St. Louis, his hometown. This way the Cards get something in return instead of losing everything. Good to dream.

whitekimbo
10-23-2011, 04:08 AM
Even though I may have been in a homer state of mind, before the Howard injury, I could have sworn Pujols would test the free agent market. Then the Phillies would turn around and trade Howard to St. Louis, his hometown. This way the Cards get something in return instead of losing everything. Good to dream.

How would losing Pujols and trading for Ryan Howard be good for the cardinals? He's as overrated and over paid as they come.

I'll get a boxing glove and punch my cat in the face and post it on PSD if this happens...

Yankee Clipper
10-23-2011, 04:31 AM
I think Albert will stay with the Cardinals, but I don't think he'll get $300 million, even with this performance tonight. With the Red Sox, Yankees, and Dodgers not involved, the price probably won't get as high.

I expect the Cardinals and Albert to probably work out some kind of deal. St. Louis definitely makes the most sense for Albert, so I don't see Albert leaving unless some other team gives him an offer that is way beyond what the Cardinals offer.

The Cubs possibly could be a factor, but it really doesn't seem like Chicago would be a good fit for Albert. Albert has said that he hates Wrigley Field and he seems to hate media scrutiny. I'm not sure the crazy media market that is Chicago would be great for him. Of course, it's mostly about money. That said, as good as Albert is, it takes a lot more than just one player to get to the World Series. You need a good team built around him.

I don't think I would want to get sign any 31-year-old to a 10 year/$300 million contract. It's not possible to guarantee that he won't get hurt or sharply decline. He hasn't been DLed a lot so far, but he does have nagging injuries that could get worse over the years.

If Albert does go somewhere else then it will hurt, but the Cardinals will survive. I'd rather have a competitive team without Albert than a non-competitive team with his large contract.

I agree that they will eventually work something out. Pujols seems to like playing in St. Louis and the team knows that building a team around him has led and will lead to further success. Hopefully for the Cardinals sake they are able to avoid giving a 10 year contract to him.

Halopower31
10-23-2011, 05:34 AM
I hope the Angels get created and sign him. Low media market but with tons of money ;)

roylikeswaffles
10-23-2011, 06:23 AM
I'm guessing 7 years for $189 million or 8 for $216 million assuming a $27 million/year salary. 10 years is excessive considering that he'll be 32 by mid-offseason, and no player is worth $300 million; A-Rod's doing a good job of pointing that out. Pujols also has made $100 million up to this point and has high character, so I doubt he's going to quibble much at any offer around $200 million.

Pinstripe pride
10-24-2011, 09:32 AM
cardinals will give him a blank check and say put whatever you want on it

Jeffy25
10-24-2011, 10:52 AM
Edited a current thread instead of making a new one.

I think he will eventually accept the original offer the Cardinals made, around 9/210

StayOnBoard
10-24-2011, 12:22 PM
10 years - 250 million with the Cards

Yankee Clipper
10-24-2011, 12:57 PM
Signs with Cardinals for 8 years worth 200 million.

Celtic AL
10-24-2011, 01:44 PM
the cubs will make him the highest paid player in baseball

Nymfan87
10-24-2011, 02:00 PM
8 years $225 million to the Cardinals. Things could get interesting if the Cubs want to shove a middle finger in the Cardinals' faces and offer 10 years/$300 million.

long ball
10-24-2011, 02:07 PM
I just don't see him being worth over $220mm to anyone other than the Cardinals. I think he'll resign with them for about that amount.

DodgerB24
10-24-2011, 02:58 PM
Cubs offer 10/350 + keys to the city.

Ares
10-24-2011, 03:00 PM
Dodgers offer 12/400 and Albert rejects.

PhillyFaninLA
10-24-2011, 03:13 PM
the team - Cards

the deal -

5 years 175 million

options

year 6 player option - 15 million
year 7 team option (turns into player option with 125 games played) - 10 million

total deal possible 7 years 200 million

full no trade clause

At his age I don't see him getting a guaranteed 7+ years.

Phaneuf3
10-24-2011, 03:21 PM
Not sure where he is going to sign, but I think it will be one of texas, san francisco, st louis, or the chicago cubs and he will probably get 10 years 250 million

RTL
10-24-2011, 03:37 PM
If I were the Cardinals, I would workout a lifetime contract. There will be statues erected and roads named after him in St. Louis

ManningToTyree
10-24-2011, 03:39 PM
Blank check from the Cardinals

Rangerchick
10-24-2011, 03:40 PM
Wouldn't it make sense for him personally to go to an AL team because they have the DH spot which he can be moved to later on in the contract to keep him healthy?

Ares
10-24-2011, 03:42 PM
Wouldn't it make sense for him personally to go to an AL team because they have the DH spot which he can be moved to later on in the contract to keep him healthy?

Cause he'll never move to DH, look at Jeter, a broomstick could do better at short yet he's still out there. Players are too proud to move to DH, especially a guy like Pujols.

DR_1
10-24-2011, 04:43 PM
Cubs or Cards, 8 years, 30 million per year

hoosiercubsfan
10-24-2011, 05:56 PM
8 years $225 million to the Cardinals. Things could get interesting if the Cubs want to shove a middle finger in the Cardinals' faces and offer 10 years/$300 million.

This sounds about right per year salary of 28 million. Though unsure if the Cardinals will go that high on him. The Cardinals will face a huge issue with signing Pujols to that type of salary. First their payroll would have to go up from the $109 million it was to start the season this year. Even if it went to $120 million your still paying one player a quarter of your payroll. With Holliday making 17 million, Carpenter 15 million club option (probably will be renegotiated at a slightly lower per year salary) so lets say 13 million per year on new salary, Furcal will need to be resigned or replaced 10 million. Your looking at over half your payroll eaten up in 4 players. Its doable but will completely cripple the team in the long run.

I think if the Cubs come in and offer him 28-30 million he very well MIGHT take it. It depends on how much Theo wants to make a big splash right away. Also will be dependent on how big of a discount the MLBPA will let Albert take. They will no doubt want him to take as big of a deal as possible to push the ceiling higher. His contract will be in the ARod V Wells range in my opinion. No way he takes Tex type money even to stay a Cardinal.

Jeffy25
10-24-2011, 06:09 PM
Carpenter already has a new deal for 2/21 ^


If the Cardinals basically do all the things expected, and don't sign anyone from outside the organization for more than 7 figures, you are looking at payroll remaining basically the same in 2012 from 2011 without Pujols.

Adding Pujols is what will push it over the edge.

the_jon
10-24-2011, 07:06 PM
Tampa Bay

ne3xchamps
10-24-2011, 07:17 PM
8-10 for 270-300M.

scottythegreat1
10-24-2011, 07:48 PM
8 years 180 million plus 2 option years of 25 million plus 4 million buyout per year.

Lets get one thing straight about this...The only 4 teams that could give him money are St. Louis, Texas, Toronto and Chicago (Cubs). The Cubs are going to go for Fielder, who will basically get the same amount (if not more due to Scott Boras). Toronto wont lock themselves up in a huge contract and I dont see Texas going out and spending more than 20 million a year on either Pujols or Fielder.

Its not like New York, Boston or Philadelphia are going after him...if they were, then yes! 10 years and 280 million would work.

hoosiercubsfan
10-24-2011, 09:15 PM
8 years 180 million plus 2 option years of 25 million plus 4 million buyout per year.

Lets get one thing straight about this...The only 4 teams that could give him money are St. Louis, Texas, Toronto and Chicago (Cubs). The Cubs are going to go for Fielder, who will basically get the same amount (if not more due to Scott Boras). Toronto wont lock themselves up in a huge contract and I dont see Texas going out and spending more than 20 million a year on either Pujols or Fielder.

Its not like New York, Boston or Philadelphia are going after him...if they were, then yes! 10 years and 280 million would work.


First there is no way Pujol's is going to sign for 22.5 million a year. That is less than V. Wells, Sabathia, Mauer, Teixeira, and of course ARod. I don't think he will beat ARod's contract but he will absolutely beat those other names. If I where a betting man I'd say his per year base contract is going to be between 27-30 with incentives that give the ability to reach 32ish.

You are right though that the one thing that goes in the Cardinals favor is there aren't a bunch of heavy weights vying for him other than possibly the Cubs. There is no guarantee that the Cubs will in fact go for Fielder being that nobody knows what Theo is going to do in remaking the the roster. I don't think its beyond the scope of reality to think that they could look into Pujols for several reasons. It would put a huge hole in a division rival, while also being a force on the field and in marketing for the team. It would give them another player to be the face of the team to go along with Castro.

redsox96
10-24-2011, 09:34 PM
cardinals: 1 year 250 million

Texas Holders
10-25-2011, 01:08 AM
First there is no way Pujol's is going to sign for 22.5 million a year. That is less than V. Wells, Sabathia, Mauer, Teixeira, and of course ARod. I don't think he will beat ARod's contract but he will absolutely beat those other names. If I where a betting man I'd say his per year base contract is going to be between 27-30 with incentives that give the ability to reach 32ish.

You can't really use any contract associated with the Yankees as a comparison, since none of the top spending teams will be making an offer (Yankees, Red Sox, Phillies) since they all have first basemen locked up. Vernon Wells? You can't honestly use him as a comparison for what a player should be paid, in that case, Pujols should get $100M per year. I think it will be around the same offer he received in spring training. A team will have to offer well over what the Cards are offering to get him to move.

theproof
10-25-2011, 02:33 AM
He'll be remain with the Cards. I think the fact that they went to the WS this year is gonna be a huge reason why for both sides. Cardinals need him to make it back and Albert most likely wants to be on a competitive team and all reports show that he's very comfortable playing in St. Lious.