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Longhornfan1234
10-21-2011, 03:39 AM
1. MJ
2. Hakeem
3. Barkley
4. Marlone
5. Robinson
6. Ewing
7. Shaq
8. Pippen
9. Payton
10. Stockton

Chronz
10-21-2011, 04:30 AM
Ewing ahead of Shaq? On what grounds? Matter of fact you have horribly underrated Shaq. I understand he didnt win titles but neither did alot of those guys, no one but Dream and MJ (arguably Malone) could top Shaqs overall dominance.

ewmania
10-21-2011, 06:38 AM
Ewing ahead of Shaq? On what grounds? Matter of fact you have horribly underrated Shaq. I understand he didnt win titles but neither did alot of those guys, no one but Dream and MJ (arguably Malone) could top Shaqs overall dominance.

shaq was a dominate center but raw none the less... ewing was more of a crafty veteran around the 90's and played both sides of the floor

shaq didnt reach his full dominance until the late 90's

am I saying ewing is a better center than shaq, no... but in the 90's he was a better player than shaq

Raps18-19 Champ
10-21-2011, 06:42 AM
Ehhh.

I'd still take Shaq starting from his rookie year over Ewing.

naps
10-21-2011, 07:47 AM
shaq was a dominate center but raw none the less... ewing was more of a crafty veteran around the 90's and played both sides of the floor

shaq didnt reach his full dominance until the late 90's

am I saying ewing is a better center than shaq, no... but in the 90's he was a better player than shaq

You are kidding yourself. There is no way in the world you would say this if you watched hoops in the 90's. Shaq was murdering the league in the 90's, just because he won three titles at the beginning of this 2000's doesn't mean he didn't dominate the league before, just Jordan killed the league from 86 to 90 but most people don't seem to remember that.

Andrew32
10-21-2011, 07:50 AM
1. Jordan
2. Shaq
3. Hakeem
4. Malone
5. Barkley
6. Robinson

Hakeem slightly outplayed Shaq in the 95 Finals but Shaq from 93-95 actually outplayed Hakeem more often then Hakeem outplayed him and his team won most of their matchups.

I dont understand how people can watch one playoff series between those two where neither one clearly had an edge over eachother and use that as a reason to rank Hakeem > Shaq.

Roleplayers decided that series and Shaq bettered Hakeem in every other matchup and was light years better when comparing PSeason Careers especially if you look at best 5 and 7 years.

Hakeem was great but he simply didnt offer the teams he played for the type of Production Shaq could except for really one or two years and his intangibles (perhaps slighly better then Oneals) werent good enough to fill in that gap.

I am a fan of Hakeem but when your production over any signifcant measure of time barely outpaces KG you dont belong in the same Tier as Shaq let alone Duncan. Peak wise he is up there with anyone but thats as far as ill go.

Sly Guy
10-21-2011, 09:39 AM
1. MJ
2. Hakeem
3. Barkley
4. Marlone
5. Robinson
6. Ewing
7. Shaq
8. Pippen
9. Payton
10. Stockton

Malone over Barkley, and Shaq after Malone, then I think you're on the right track. I'd also have considered putting stockton over pip and payton too

JordansBulls
10-21-2011, 11:26 AM
1. MJ
2. Hakeem
3. Barkley
4. Marlone
5. Robinson
6. Ewing
7. Shaq
8. Pippen
9. Payton
10. Stockton

Good list, but if you do it by how often they finished top 3 or top 5 in MVP the list looks like this.

Top 5 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th Player Years
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7 4 1 2 0 0 Jordan, Michael 90-93,96-98
7 1 1 1 3 0 Malone, Karl 90-92,95,97-99
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5 1 2 2 0 0 Robinson, David 91,92,94-96
5 0 0 0 2 3 Ewing, Patrick 90,92-95
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4 1 1 0 1 1 Olajuwon, Hakeem 93-96
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3 0 1 0 2 0 O'Neal, Shaquille 94,95,98
3 1 1 0 1 0 Barkley, Charles 90,91,93
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2 0 0 1 0 1 Duncan, Tim 98,99
2 0 0 1 0 1 Pippen, Scottie 94,96
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1 0 1 0 0 0 Mourning, Alonzo 99
1 0 1 0 0 0 Drexler, Clyde 92
1 0 0 1 0 0 Hardaway, Anfernee 96
1 0 0 1 0 0 Hill, Grant 97
1 0 0 1 0 0 Payton, Gary 98
1 0 0 0 1 0 Hardaway, Tim 97
1 0 0 0 0 1 Rice, Glen 97
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With that in mind, Hakeem usurps Ewing, Robinson and Malone as he won multiple titles and pretty much beat all 3 guys in the process.

1. MJ
2. Hakeem
3. Malone
4. Robinson
5. Barkley
6. Shaq
7. Ewing
8. Pippen/Drexler
9. Drexler/Pippen
10. Payton/Stockton


I rank Barkley 5th only because in 1998 and 1999 he was not MVP caliber. Malone was stable thru the entire decade.

JordansBulls
10-21-2011, 11:29 AM
1. Jordan
2. Shaq
3. Hakeem
4. Malone
5. Barkley
6. Robinson

Hakeem slightly outplayed Shaq in the 95 Finals but Shaq from 93-95 actually outplayed Hakeem more often then Hakeem outplayed him and his team won most of their matchups.

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You can rank Shaq over Hakeem all time or peak, but there is no way in hell you can rank 90's Shaq over Hakeem just like you can't rank 80's Jordan over Magic or Bird for the decade.

Heediot
10-21-2011, 11:30 AM
MJ
Hakeem
Shaq
Barkley
Malone
Robinson
Stockton
Pippen
Ewing
Payton

Heediot
10-21-2011, 11:37 AM
The 90s would destroy a 2000's team even if the latter has Shaq.

beliges
10-21-2011, 01:33 PM
The 90s would destroy a 2000's team even if the latter has Shaq.

Would be a great matchup but the 2000s had better talent overall and more players in the top 10 of all time. I think 2000s would probably win.

Bruno
10-21-2011, 02:13 PM
MJ
Dream
Shaq
Robinson
Barkley
Malone
Pippen
Drexler
Ewing
Payton
Stockton

Heediot
10-21-2011, 02:21 PM
Would be a great matchup but the 2000s had better talent overall and more players in the top 10 of all time. I think 2000s would probably win.


PG's Stockton, Payton, K. Johnson vs. Nash, Kidd, Cp3 (wash)
SG's Jordan, Drexler, R. Miller vs. Kobe, Wade (1990's)
SF's Pippen, Wilkins, Mullin, vs. James, Anthony, Pierce (2000's)
PF's Malone, Barkley, Rodman vs. Duncan, Garnett, Dirk (2000's)
C's Hakeem, D. Robinson, Shaq, Ewing, Zo vs. Dwight, Shaq, Yao (1990's)

I'd say it's pretty close. They both have the same amount of top 10 players alltime (90's Jordan, Hakeem vs. 2000's Kobe, Duncan.... SHAQ = WASH)

Overall I think the 1990's has an edge just my opinion.

beliges
10-21-2011, 02:39 PM
PG's Stockton, Payton, K. Johnson vs. Nash, Kidd, Cp3 (wash)
SG's Jordan, Drexler, R. Miller vs. Kobe, Wade (1990's)
SF's Pippen, Wilkins, Mullin, vs. James, Anthony, Pierce (2000's)
PF's Malone, Barkley, Rodman vs. Duncan, Garnett, Dirk (2000's)
C's Hakeem, D. Robinson, Shaq, Ewing, Zo vs. Dwight, Shaq, Yao (1990's)

I'd say it's pretty close. They both have the same amount of top 10 players alltime (90's Jordan, Hakeem vs. 2000's Kobe, Duncan.... SHAQ = WASH)

Overall I think the 1990's has an edge just my opinion.

Youre right, its very very close. But i wouldnt put 90s Shaq in the top 10. But probably the two most talented eras of basketball of all time.

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10-21-2011, 02:44 PM
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