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10-16-2011, 09:34 PM
Voting for #47 has concluded and PSD's Official #47 NBA Player of all time is....

Elvin Hayes

Top 3 Voting:

Elvin Hayes = 6 votes
Dave Cowens = 4 votes
Tracy Mcgrady = 4 votes
Pau Gasol = 4 votes

The List:
The List Thread (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=635088)

The List:
1. Michael Jordan (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=631361)
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=631585)
3. Wilt Chamberlain (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=632046)
4. Magic Johnson (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=632690)
5. Bill Russell (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=632852)
6. Larry Bird (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=633428)
7. Shaquille O'neal (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=633751)
8. Kobe Bryant (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=634022)
9. Hakeem Olajuwon (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=634733)
10. Tim Duncan (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=635092)
11. Oscar Robertson (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=635506)
12. Moses Malone (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=636033)
13. Jerry West (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=636552)
14. Karl Malone (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=636998)
15. Julius Erving (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=637671)
16. David Robinson (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=638526)
17. Charles Barkley (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=639576)
18. John Stockton (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=640285)
19. George Mikan (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=641172)
20. Kevin Garnett (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=641975)
21. LeBron James (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=642511)
22. Dirk Nowitzki (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=643161)
23. Bob Pettit (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=644031)
24. John Havlicek (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=645330)
25. Elgin Baylor (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=645990)
26. Dwyane Wade (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=646496)
27. Scottie Pippen (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=647144)
28. Rick Barry (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=648440)
29. Isiah Thomas (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=649170)
30. Patrick Ewing (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=649815)
31. Bob Cousy (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=650318)
32. Walt Frazier (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=651181)
33. Clyde Drexler (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=651737)
34. Gary Payton (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=652073)
35. Jason Kidd (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=652644)
36. Kevin Mchale (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=653111)
37. Allen Iverson (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=653515)
38. Steve Nash (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=654056)
39. Bill Walton (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=654694)
40. George Gervin (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=655171)
41. Willis Reed (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=655768)
42. Dominique Wilkins (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=656588)
43. Reggie Miller (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=657146)
44. James Worthy (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=658798)
45. Paul Pierce (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=659479)
46. Sam Jones (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=660017)
47. Elvin Hayes (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=660582)

Voting will now begin for the #48 NBA Player All Time

These are the players that can be voted for the #48 spot.

Wes Unseld
Dave Cowens
Bob Mcadoo
Dolph Schayes
Nate Thurmond
Shawn Kemp
Alonzo Mourning
Kevin Johnson
Jerry Lucas
Robert Parish
Nate Thurmond
Pau Gasol
Tracy Mcgrady
Artis Gilmore
Hal Greer
Anfernee Hardaway
Tim Hardaway
Grant Hill

10-16-2011, 09:39 PM
Took Wes Unseld here, gave the Bullets it's only title in franchise history and won a league and finals mvp in his career.

10-17-2011, 12:17 AM
I took Parish. Absurd longevity (all-time leader in regular season games played), four-time NBA champion (*'97 Bulls), top seven in total rebounds, #24 in all-time points scored, top 20 in total win-shares, with surprisingly high regular season peaks (in 1981 when Boston won the title he lead the Celtics in regular season PER, WS and WS/48, his PER was nearly six points higher than Birds for the regular season. The Celtics won the title, DJ won finals MVP. Parish finished 4th in 1982 MVP voting, 7th in 1981).

If he doesn't go here, he has to at least crack our top 50.


10-17-2011, 01:56 PM
Went with Dolph Schayes. 12 straight AS appearances and a championship is pretty s/e.

10-17-2011, 02:05 PM
t-choke? really?

10-17-2011, 03:31 PM
Robert Parish. He was an intricate part of the Celtics' dynasty. 4 time champion, perennial all star. He, along with Bird and Mchale arguably formed the greatest frontcourt in league history.

10-17-2011, 04:33 PM
t-choke? really?
Choking hasnt stopped alot of players from going ahead, and in Tmacs case he never choked in his prime. He had 1 series where you could argue he was choking but even then he was pretty good so thats saying alot.

10-17-2011, 04:56 PM
How can anyone have Parrish over McAdoo, their peaks arent even close by any measure

10-17-2011, 05:00 PM
How can anyone have Parrish over McAdoo, their peaks arent even close by any measure

Mchale was an INTEGREAL part for three rings instead of a Role player for his.
And you got to take his longevity too.

But neither of them should be peaked where there are still Leaders or Second at helm in rings available.

10-17-2011, 08:14 PM
How can anyone have Parrish over McAdoo, their peaks arent even close by any measure

McAdoo had 3 great years, and a couple of good ones, and then it's all decline. What did he win? He was the only option on his team (braves). He was a good defender for using his length to help, and snag blocks and rebounds. But he was so physically weak that tough Centers like Cowens punished him into submission.

Year by year examination of Bird's Celts shows that Parish was the actual #2 after Bird (for the first two titles and overall), w/ McHale close (by virtue of '86) but Maxwell eating up enough of McHales's time early on to give the edge to Parish.

Parish was playing for several years (one of those years he was pretty good too) before Bird and McHale were even in the league. Then after those two went down the drain physically Parish still had a great season, and a number of very good seasons after that.

McAdoo's career value is very fractional compared to Parish. His accomplishments less, and his "domination" achieved during the lowest ebb of talent in NBA history relative to what came before and after.

McAdoo and Hayes for that matter would never be taken over Parish by people that saw them. Never.

10-18-2011, 05:18 AM
Look at what Dave Cowens accomplished in his career, it has to be him.

10-18-2011, 07:14 AM
Look at what Dave Cowens accomplished in his career, it has to be him.

I already nailed him in thread 45 or 46. 2nd best player for one Champ team, best for the 2nd.

After that outside of one year, he just didn't care anymore. He left his team midseason (the year after they won the 2nd title) - because as he said he couldn't get up for it anymore. He couldn't or didn't want to deal with the problems Rowe and Wicks brought to the team. He couldn't fight through his injuries. He should have as team leader and resident tough guy. He retired after his age 31 season, a spent force. He came back at age 34 for the Bucks, but more of the same - injuries, couldn't fight past the pain or boredom to be the fierce player he had once been.

So basically outside of '77-78 the last 40% of his career he wasn't the Cowens that his reputation is built on, nor the one that from the day he got on the Celts I followed with reverence. He used to wash his clothes at a laundromat close by and I used to haunt that place to talk to him and to see if I could egg him into a game of 1 on 1. Nobody on PSD was ever as big a fan of Cowens as I was.

Cowens should not go in ahead of Parish or Gilmore IMO.

10-18-2011, 07:15 AM
T-Mac should not be leading here but whatever

10-18-2011, 08:28 AM
Thoughts on Zo not having a single vote thus far?

Personally I think we are overrating titles a bit too much and forgetting the quality of the player.

10-18-2011, 10:48 AM
i went with c-webb...i don't know why, maybe because i enjoyed watching those kings so much.

10-18-2011, 07:48 PM
WOWOWOW chris webber is getting completely cheated here. i expected him to have gotten in just after wilkins if not one spot ahead of im. miller and worthy are over rated too

10-18-2011, 08:27 PM
Comparing Webber to Wilkins is an insult to Webber, but he still doesn't deserve to be voted in yet. Maybe around #54.