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Sactown
10-14-2011, 08:13 PM
ESPN, as we all know, is ranking players and they're up to the top 10 players and Blake Griffin hasn't come up yet. Is Blake Griffin a top 10 player?
why or why not?

daleja424
10-14-2011, 08:16 PM
most exciting player in the league and a bright future... but you could argue he isn't even the leader of his own team (a team that won 32 games last year).

I think it is too soon to put him in the top 10 probably.

OGMarkWahlberg
10-14-2011, 08:25 PM
most exciting player in the league and a bright future... but you could argue he isn't even the leader of his own team (a team that won 32 games last year).

I think it is too soon to put him in the top 10 probably.

I think thats why ESPN put him in the top 10, he isnt top 10 IMO too early but after this season (whenever that will be) I will most likely put him in my top 10 if he continues to improve his all around game

bovice163
10-14-2011, 08:30 PM
He's one of the most well-rounded rookies I've seen in a long time, but I really don't think he belongs in the top 10 just yet. He needs to improve his defense considerably, as well as his jump shot. The Clippers aren't exactly stacked, but I have a feeling they're going to be in the playoff race very soon.

The_Jamal
10-14-2011, 08:31 PM
No, BG isn't a top 10 player, he's not even a top 5 PF.

ManningToTyree
10-14-2011, 08:31 PM
Love his game but not yet.

Bravo95
10-14-2011, 08:36 PM
Still has a some areas of his game to improve and it wouldn't be right to rank him over some other polished NBA stars.

OGMarkWahlberg
10-14-2011, 08:40 PM
No, BG isn't a top 10 player, he's not even a top 5 PF.

who you got as your top 5?

smith&wesson
10-14-2011, 08:41 PM
i beleive he is top 3 at his position so i would put him in the 10-20 range. but in a year or two i think he will be the best 4 in the league which should ensure him a spot in the top 10 players.

NYKNYGNYY
10-14-2011, 08:44 PM
not yet in a year or 2 deffinatly baring any injuries

Bruno
10-14-2011, 08:47 PM
Too soon.

JNA17
10-14-2011, 08:54 PM
If 2K increases his 85 rating in 2k12 then yeah.

lavilevi23
10-14-2011, 09:25 PM
Im not sure hes even a top 5 PF.
1.Pau Gasol
2.Bosh
3.Amare
4.Duncan
5.KG or Randolph

DwayneMVPwade
10-14-2011, 09:38 PM
Im not sure hes even a top 5 PF.
1.Pau Gasol
2.Bosh
3.Amare
4.Duncan
5.KG or Randolph

amare is better than bosh

Soxsnation4life
10-14-2011, 09:39 PM
His game is far from complete. He's a highlight reel stat stuffer on a mediocre, high paced team. He will be top ten soon for sure, but right now no. Those ESPN player rankings are a joke

DwayneMVPwade
10-14-2011, 09:40 PM
needs to improve his post game and mid range game.

Knicks21
10-14-2011, 10:34 PM
Not a top 10 player by any means. ESPN at its finest again.

bovice163
10-14-2011, 10:38 PM
Im not sure hes even a top 5 PF.
1.Pau Gasol
2.Bosh
3.Amare
4.Duncan
5.KG or Randolph

Where the **** is Dirk?

MrfadeawayJB
10-14-2011, 10:55 PM
Not even close right now

TO Rapz
10-14-2011, 11:00 PM
Where the **** is Dirk?

x2.

IMO, its:

1) Dirk Nowitzki
2) Pau Gasol
3) Amare Stoudemire
4) Zach Randolph
5) Chris Bosh

Idk if im missing anyone.

Edit: I d MAYBE put Blake at 5. I have Kevin Love, Blake Griffin, LaMarcus Aldridge and Chris Bosh who could all be at 5. But, I definetly stand by my top 4.

Avenged
10-14-2011, 11:01 PM
I know there are some posters on this site who say he is..

I don't see it though. I do think he'll get there very soon though.

tredigs
10-14-2011, 11:31 PM
Depends if they're ranking a top ten player based on last season or a projected list of top ten players going into the next season. I feel fairly confident that he'll have a top ten spot secured by year two, and it's not ridiculous to say he's already right there along with guys like Melo and Westbrook - though I'd say he falls a couple slots short.

Hellcrooner
10-14-2011, 11:41 PM
its laughable i mean EVERYBODY on espn list who has been listed in numbers 11 to 15 IS INDEED more worhty of being top 10 than him.

and btw i find laughable that both PAU and Melo have been taken out of the top 10 to make room for Griffin and Deron.

Hellcrooner
10-14-2011, 11:43 PM
btw dont fool yourselves, bosh is better than randolph.

bosh LED a crappy team to playoffs SEVERAL TIMES,

zach "led" an STACKED LIKE HELL team to playoffs ONCE ( he has basically never played playoffs in his career)

ManRam
10-14-2011, 11:46 PM
Wow.

ESPN has done all it can to make him a bigger star than he is (which is great for the Clips) but it's mind-blowing that these guys actually bought into it.

He's FAR from a top 10 player.

tredigs
10-14-2011, 11:55 PM
Wow.

ESPN has done all it can to make him a bigger star than he is (which is great for the Clips) but it's mind-blowing that these guys actually bought into it.

He's FAR from a top 10 player.

No, he's not dude. He's not polished in his transition to the NBA game yet, but the skill set and athletic ability he possesses is already so much greater than 99% of the league that it allows him the capability of the 22/12/4 per-game numbers as a rookie. His defense still leaves a lot to be desired (that said, the 8-15 range is home to the elite but not complete players), but I watched most of their games and his offensive dominance/awareness and overall impact on the boards/break started coming to fruition - and it was ****ing impressive. Absolutely nearing top ten player impressive.

But like I said, I didn't care quite enough to click the link and see how they were doing their ratings (now or projected), but given his work ethic and natural progression as a 2nd year star, I see little chance he isn't among the top 6-12 next year barring injury.

Bruno
10-15-2011, 12:47 AM
So ESPN has the following in their top 10:

Blake
Dirk
LBJ
Wade
Bryant
Williams
Paul
Rose
Durant
Howard

It'll be interesting to see how they rank these ten.

Raph12
10-15-2011, 01:34 AM
1. Lebron
2. Dwight
3. Wade
4. CP3
5. Durant
6. Dirk
7. Kobe
8. Rose
9. Pau
10. Melo/Stat/DWill/Westbrook/Aldridge/Love

Nope not in my Top 10, actually not even Top 15 IMHO...

mttwlsn16
10-15-2011, 01:47 AM
not yet. top 20 tho yes

kozelkid
10-15-2011, 02:06 AM
Next season he'll be top 10, I can promise you that if he stays healthy.
He ain't top 10 this season though.

Ebbs
10-15-2011, 02:19 AM
No it's pretty enfuriating. I love the guy one of the most exciting if not the most exciting player in the NBA but top 10 after one year and no post season play is crazy,.

UPRock
10-15-2011, 02:44 AM
No, not even a top 5 Power Foward.

1: Dirk Nowitzki
2: Amare Stoudamire
3: Chris Bosh
4: Pau Gasol
5: Zach Randolph
6: Kevin Garnett
7: LaMarcus Aldridge
8: Blake Griffin
9: Kevin Love
10: Tim Duncan

THE GIPPER
10-15-2011, 02:47 AM
No, not even a top 5 Power Foward.

1: Dirk Nowitzki
2: Amare Stoudamire
3: Chris Bosh
4: Zach Randolph
5: Pau Gasol
6: Kevin Garnett
7: LaMarcus Aldridge
8: Blake Griffin
9: Kevin Love
10: Tim Duncan

This is a really bad list man. Gasol 5th??

mttwlsn16
10-15-2011, 02:49 AM
No, not even a top 5 Power Foward.

1: Dirk Nowitzki
2: Amare Stoudamire
3: Chris Bosh
4: Zach Randolph
5: Pau Gasol
6: Kevin Garnett
7: LaMarcus Aldridge
8: Blake Griffin
9: Kevin Love
10: Tim Duncan

blake right now is better than bosh, pau, LA, love, timmy and zbo

mttwlsn16
10-15-2011, 02:52 AM
This is a really bad list man.

thank u

Sactown
10-15-2011, 02:54 AM
blake right now is better than bosh, pau, LA, love, timmy and zbo

I agree with Timmy, but none of the others, he's flashier than the others, but better? meh doubtful of course he has the most potential

UPRock
10-15-2011, 03:37 AM
This is a really bad list man. Gasol 5th??
Yes, he's not better than Amare, Chris and Nowitzki. He's supposed to be in 4th place, ahead of Randolph, I don't know what the heck happened there. And for the people saying that Blake is better than than most of them after his rookie season are nuts. Anyway I respect your opinions.


I agree with Timmy, but none of the others, he's flashier than the others, but better? meh doubtful of course he has the most potential

This.

Faneik
10-15-2011, 05:46 AM
Im not sure hes even a top 5 PF.
1.Pau Gasol
2.Bosh
3.Amare
4.Duncan
5.KG or Randolph

KG does all the things Bosh does on offense.

KG is a tenacious defender, he gives it all every game, every possession. Bosh is a below average defender.

The only thing Bosh has on KG is being younger.

RevisIsland
10-15-2011, 06:17 AM
Yes, he's in the highlights because of the dunks, but watch him play a full game, he's a GREAT player.

GhostfaceDrilla
10-15-2011, 10:45 AM
Im not sure hes even a top 5 PF.
1.Pau Gasol
2.Bosh
3.Amare
4.Duncan
5.KG or Randolph

So Dirk, a top 5 player in the game doesn't make your list?

GhostfaceDrilla
10-15-2011, 10:48 AM
1. LeBron James
2. Dwight Howard
3. Dwyane Wade
4. Dirk Nowitzki
5. Chris Paul
6. Kobe Bryant
7. Derrick Rose
8. Kevin Durant
9. Deron Williams
10. Blake Griffin

blastmasta26
10-15-2011, 02:00 PM
He will be soon, but not yet.