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thapastime7
10-05-2011, 11:36 AM
as per the owner the rays are performing but there fans arent showin up .

My opnion st peterburg is a town were alot of retirees retire and go to live i heard there are so many golf courses and such its not a baseball town.

i think they might want to relocate i mean i am a die hard yankee fan but i enjoy watching a young hungry teams that play like the rays and i live in Nj i for once think its time for another sports team ALL we have a NHL team:mad::facepalm: we just lost our basketball team:facepalm: not because we dont come to watch them but getting to the meadowlands is a huge headache itself and location of the arena was more of the problem so a nj baseball team i would welcome. We produce a great amount of prospect from nj. :D:D

if not Nj i think the carolinas need a team or new orleans

new jersey Rays
Carolina Rays
new orleans rays

what city would you want the rays to go to? that would make sense, that bring in attendance in.

Please no more texas or cali teams or new york

sexicano31
10-05-2011, 11:50 AM
Dat english

Jeffy25
10-05-2011, 12:01 PM
Brooklyn

Claymation
10-05-2011, 12:05 PM
Philadelphia and the NY teams would reject it.

benzni
10-05-2011, 12:13 PM
montana rays
South Dakota Rays
Oregon Devil Rays

gotoHcarolina52
10-05-2011, 12:17 PM
Havana

Havoc Wreaker
10-05-2011, 12:18 PM
Dat english
+ Smileys

thapastime7
10-05-2011, 12:34 PM
Dat english

that what happens when you text more then you write papers

Funstin
10-05-2011, 12:39 PM
Well a building would be the biggest obsticle. However without considering that what about Portland or Vancouver?

Add another team out west, which in turn can help rebalance the east, and even move Texas to the Central.

rapsjaysfan88
10-05-2011, 12:39 PM
montreal

Yankee Clipper
10-05-2011, 12:50 PM
Walla Walla, Washington

colinskik
10-05-2011, 12:59 PM
Anywhere but Tampa.

Puerto Rico!!!

GeekInThePink
10-05-2011, 01:01 PM
Montreal Baby.

Pinstripe pride
10-05-2011, 01:08 PM
hawaii

Johann
10-05-2011, 01:11 PM
Melbourne!!!

sexicano31
10-05-2011, 01:13 PM
Compton

ahoda
10-05-2011, 01:13 PM
contracted

NYKnicksAllDay
10-05-2011, 01:17 PM
I think Portland or Vancouver could work.

thapastime7
10-05-2011, 01:26 PM
Anywhere but Tampa.

Puerto Rico!!!


so down for that i mean if canada can have a team why not puerto rico right on the capital

they could play in hiram bithron stadium where the classics were played but they might need to add a couple of more rows lol it only holds 18000 people so rays would not benefit but it will be a good idea.

redbird89
10-05-2011, 01:32 PM
So the Rays have poor attendance, therefore they might move. Meanwhile the Marlins have even worse attendance and they have a new stadium under construction.

Why?

redbird89
10-05-2011, 01:35 PM
contracted

That could be an option, except that you would have to contract two teams, right?

The Marlins and the Rays consistently are in the bottom five in attendance. The Marlins are getting a new stadium, though. But if the Marlins weren't getting a new stadium you could contract them both. Then you'd have 13 AL teams and 15 NL teams, so someone would need to move from the NL to the AL.

Yankee Clipper
10-05-2011, 01:38 PM
So the Rays have poor attendance, therefore they might move. Meanwhile the Marlins have even worse attendance and they have a new stadium under construction.

Why?

They are hoping a new stadium will draw much more interest for the team rather them playing in the dump that is Sun Life Stadium.

NCBoSoxfan21
10-05-2011, 01:39 PM
Carolina or Las Vegas, maybe Vancouver.

Obviously a name change. I'd like to see Charlotte Hornets name come back even if it's baseball.

homestarunner93
10-05-2011, 01:41 PM
Carolina Flight...should have been the NBA franchise name when the Bobcats were created.

gotoHcarolina52
10-05-2011, 01:49 PM
So the Rays have poor attendance, therefore they might move. Meanwhile the Marlins have even worse attendance and they have a new stadium under construction.

Why?

Because when the Marlins are good 65,000 people show up for their playoff games http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgr7aeFjNFk

Meanwhile, the Rays have trouble drawing 25,000-30,000 for the ALDS.

Also, people in Miami do care about baseball--there was a great deal of fan pressure to get a stadium deal done and the Marlins' tv ratings are generally quite good (http://florida.marlins.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080724&content_id=3188778&vkey=news_fla&fext=.jsp&c_id=fla)

ManningToTyree
10-05-2011, 02:02 PM
Carolina Rays has a nice ring to it.

koldjerky
10-05-2011, 02:05 PM
Stay in Tampa, I just ****ing moved here. :sigh:

VRP723
10-05-2011, 02:10 PM
Columbus, I'm kinda bored out here.

Ezio
10-05-2011, 02:11 PM
OKC, the Thunder have a great fan base there.

NE Sportsfan
10-05-2011, 02:17 PM
Fargo

D1JM
10-05-2011, 02:27 PM
Portland. It's a sport city

mttwlsn16
10-05-2011, 02:29 PM
hawaii

mttwlsn16
10-05-2011, 02:31 PM
Compton

win

sixer04fan
10-05-2011, 02:32 PM
Charlotte?

Ares
10-05-2011, 02:35 PM
The Moon.

Seriously, just obliterate the organization and have a quick draft so that the players could go somewhere they'd be appreciated, the staff would get picked up quickly, hell Boston would just swap staffs immediately. The GM, assisants, etc. can go to different teams throughout the league(Dodgers, Seattle, entire AL Central) and show them how you're supposed to run a baseball team.

YEDN90
10-05-2011, 02:42 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen, get on your feet for your:

San Antonio Rays!

:p

RevisIsland
10-05-2011, 02:46 PM
Vegas

Bombtista
10-05-2011, 02:50 PM
Hamilton

Muttman73
10-05-2011, 02:58 PM
San Antonio, even, well almost makes sense...San Antonio Rays. They could play in the Alamo Dome for a few seasons.

valade16
10-05-2011, 03:03 PM
Portland. It's a sport city

This!

The Blazers routinely sell-out and are known are known for having one of the loudest stadiums in the NBA, the Timbers soccer team has sold out almost all their games at 18,000 fans a night, and that's soccer!

And even though it's not Portland the Ducks have the loudest stadium in CF. Portland could easily support a team better than Tampa Bay.

Mr. RaJ
10-05-2011, 03:08 PM
montreal

Ottawa....wait the fan base for everything sux here, Van-City

dbroncos78087
10-05-2011, 03:14 PM
While i have never been to a Rays game, i have been to Marlin games quite a few times and that is the team that should be relocated. The stadium they currently use holds 4-5 times as many people as actually show up. When i have gone to the games there are roughly 40K seats empty and maybe 10-15K used. You can get great prices for seats along the baseline on gameday.

That being said, i hope the Marlins dont move because the stadium is extraordinarily accessible from where my grandparents live down there. 20 minute drive with traffic. But i think there are plans to move them, i hope they fall through.

thapastime7
10-05-2011, 03:19 PM
why not have the rays join the marlins and share stadium that they are building like the giants and jets that stadium will pay itself if there is 80 games being played there from both teams

miami rays and miami marlins or florida rays and florida marlins

Yankee Clipper
10-05-2011, 03:20 PM
While i have never been to a Rays game, i have been to Marlin games quite a few times and that is the team that should be relocated. The stadium they currently use holds 4-5 times as many people as actually show up. When i have gone to the games there are roughly 40K seats empty and maybe 10-15K used. You can get great prices for seats along the baseline on gameday.

That being said, i hope the Marlins dont move because the stadium is extraordinarily accessible from where my grandparents live down there. 20 minute drive with traffic. But i think there are plans to move them, i hope they fall through.

They won't be moving anytime soon. They are moving into a brand new ballpark next season.

sexicano31
10-05-2011, 03:23 PM
While i have never been to a Rays game, i have been to Marlin games quite a few times and that is the team that should be relocated. The stadium they currently use holds 4-5 times as many people as actually show up. When i have gone to the games there are roughly 40K seats empty and maybe 10-15K used. You can get great prices for seats along the baseline on gameday.

That being said, i hope the Marlins dont move because the stadium is extraordinarily accessible from where my grandparents live down there. 20 minute drive with traffic. But i think there are plans to move them, i hope they fall through.

Stadium opens next summer. It's built and not falling through

Giants-49ers-Ws
10-05-2011, 03:27 PM
Los Angeles Rays of Santa Barbara

haha but seriously, new orleans would be a cool one if they can draw enough...went there a few years ago, love that city..

other considerations...portland, oklahoma city, Charlotte (or somewhere in the Carolina's), Indianapolis?, San Antonio?, Memphis or Nashville?, Salt Lake City UT?, Vancouver?, Las Vegas, Boise ID?.....

i think new orleans would be the coolest one...but oklahoma city may be the best option...especially with a young and exciting team....look how well the OK Thunder draw in the NBA, they have arguable the best fans already next to the Warriors

Unfortunately, the A's may also have to be part of this discussion if they can't figure out a stadium in the East Bay (Oakland, Stockton, Fremont, etc.) or Sacramento in the next year or so.....their games are depressing and embarrassing...hopefully they can figure out a new stadium in Oakland ASAP

BT601
10-05-2011, 03:40 PM
Portland and move em to the AL west

wire32
10-05-2011, 05:41 PM
Vancouver just spent a boatload of money renovating BC Place stadium. Not sure if MLB wants another team in Canada but this always seemed like a good option if the Mariners would allow it

sexicano31
10-05-2011, 06:03 PM
Vancouver just spent a boatload of money renovating BC Place stadium. Not sure if MLB wants another team in Canada but this always seemed like a good option if the Mariners would allow it

Would also help to balance out the west

Pfeifer
10-05-2011, 06:33 PM
I would love it but not enough fans in Vancouver. Most baseball is played in the valley which is an hr out of van.

NE Sportsfan
10-05-2011, 06:48 PM
No more Canadian teams..

Cheezombie
10-05-2011, 06:50 PM
Los Angeles Rays of Santa Barbara

haha but seriously, new orleans would be a cool one if they can draw enough...went there a few years ago, love that city..

other considerations...portland, oklahoma city, Charlotte (or somewhere in the Carolina's), Indianapolis?, San Antonio?, Memphis or Nashville?, Salt Lake City UT?, Vancouver?, Las Vegas, Boise ID?.....

i think new orleans would be the coolest one...but oklahoma city may be the best option...especially with a young and exciting team....look how well the OK Thunder draw in the NBA, they have arguable the best fans already next to the Warriors

Unfortunately, the A's may also have to be part of this discussion if they can't figure out a stadium in the East Bay (Oakland, Stockton, Fremont, etc.) or Sacramento in the next year or so.....their games are depressing and embarrassing...hopefully they can figure out a new stadium in Oakland ASAP

Or San Jose

ne3xchamps
10-05-2011, 06:56 PM
I would say one of the carolinas. St. Pete is where old people go to die.

Claymation
10-05-2011, 07:05 PM
Or San Jose

That's where Oakland wants to go.

Cheezombie
10-05-2011, 07:10 PM
That's where Oakland wants to go.

Well, the A's, but yeah I know. The A's are expecting news about where to build soon. Probably after the WS.

UPRock
10-05-2011, 09:02 PM
Afghanistan Devil Rays, sounds good and diabolical xD.

Mell413
10-05-2011, 09:06 PM
I think Portland would be the best spot.

VenezuelanMet
10-05-2011, 09:08 PM
Bring back the EXPOS!

#24
10-05-2011, 11:22 PM
Tokyo Sushi Rays

misterd
10-05-2011, 11:50 PM
Philadelphia and the NY teams would reject it.

There's a limit to what they can veto. Can someone break out a compass and figure out a "dead zone" in Jersey where we can put a team outside NY and Phil's veto power?

misterd
10-05-2011, 11:51 PM
They won't be moving anytime soon. They are moving into a brand new ballpark next season.

So they will be moving soon?

MVP1
10-06-2011, 02:56 AM
Move them to Canada.

Yankee Clipper
10-06-2011, 04:35 AM
So they will be moving soon?

Not to another state, they wont.

ahoda
10-06-2011, 06:24 AM
That could be an option, except that you would have to contract two teams, right?

The Marlins and the Rays consistently are in the bottom five in attendance. The Marlins are getting a new stadium, though. But if the Marlins weren't getting a new stadium you could contract them both. Then you'd have 13 AL teams and 15 NL teams, so someone would need to move from the NL to the AL.

TBH, I think 4 teams should go and get contracted. Lower the number of games played and start the post season with an extra round in September opposed to this cold late October BS.

todu82
10-06-2011, 10:03 AM
Portland Oregon, Charlotte North Carolina or Las Vegas Nevada would be my top choices. Shame for that team to have to move but as others have said Florida is not a great market for sports teams.

adab
10-06-2011, 10:44 AM
I think Kansas City or Pittsburgh deserve a MLB team. HGow about moving the Rays there.

rapsjaysfan88
10-06-2011, 01:05 PM
^umm royals and pirates...

ahoda
10-06-2011, 01:08 PM
^umm both teams suck, hence the joke...... ;)

Mr. Keys
10-06-2011, 03:17 PM
CT! Hartford Whalers 2.0

nithanyo
10-06-2011, 03:23 PM
Montreal

2009mvp
10-06-2011, 03:26 PM
Now what government in their right mind would approve of building a new stadium right now? That would just be asinine. There's really only one realistic option right now, and that's continuing to field a team on nickels and dimes. Sucks for Sternberg and co., but they knew what they were getting into when they bought the team and more specifically the Trop.

thapastime7
10-06-2011, 03:38 PM
i still say move them to miami with the marlins 160 games in that stadium they will certainly pay off that stadium...wen marlins are home the rays are away vice versa


miami stingrays 80 games
florida marlins 80 games

MetsFanatic19
10-06-2011, 03:42 PM
US Virgin Islands

RamOG
10-06-2011, 04:33 PM
OKC, the Thunder have a great fan base there.

I actually think that would work. Baseball is big in the midwest, and OKC is a thriving city, compared to many "big league" cities.

kmo429
10-06-2011, 05:58 PM
In between Omaha and Lincoln Nebraska? lol

Nashville?

kmo429
10-06-2011, 05:59 PM
i still say move them to miami with the marlins 160 games in that stadium they will certainly pay off that stadium...wen marlins are home the rays are away vice versa


miami stingrays 80 games
florida marlins 80 games

The Marlins dont have enough fans to begin with... this would make it significantly worse

Piercefan34
10-06-2011, 06:54 PM
connecticut.

MVP1
10-06-2011, 09:54 PM
Tampa and Miami are 300km apart

Greenmonster24
10-06-2011, 09:54 PM
Connecticut the Yankees and Redsox would never allow as that state half go for 1 and the other half for the other. It would be good though as both are large markets and take some of the fans away from those teams where there the most popular and make the game more even as it hurt both teams revenue alittle so there not so far higher then every other team.

theheatles
10-06-2011, 10:17 PM
downtown Orlando

#24
10-06-2011, 11:02 PM
CT! Hartford Whalers 2.0


connecticut.
Right. They can play at Bushnell Park. :D

benzni
10-07-2011, 08:01 AM
why not have the rays join the marlins and share stadium that they are building like the giants and jets that stadium will pay itself if there is 80 games being played there from both teams

miami rays and miami marlins or florida rays and florida marlins

even less fans then. Marlins fans will not convert to rays fans.

Like I said, Montana, SD, and now im throwing in New Mexico

Cheezombie
10-07-2011, 10:37 AM
Why are you throwing out states where nobody lives?

Kinsm
10-07-2011, 10:47 PM
They should relocate to Tampa, 25 miles in any direction of the current stadium and there is no one that fits the typical target market for a baseball team.

ShinobiNYC
10-07-2011, 11:16 PM
Memphis
Portland
San Antonio
Columbus
Charlotte
Las Vegas

One of those 6.

MetsFanatic19
10-08-2011, 12:09 PM
north carolina
tennessee
las vegas
Portland
Orlando
New Orleans

1903
10-08-2011, 12:43 PM
Arkansas. They don't have anything else besides college football and baseball. They are in the top 3 nationally in college baseball attendance.

Jeffy25
10-08-2011, 02:49 PM
I think Nashville would honestly be a good place, lot's of regional activity.

billybuck
10-09-2011, 11:16 AM
How about San Juan, Puerto Rico? They love the game and have had great attendance in the games played there.

ebbucsfan
10-09-2011, 11:36 AM
Tampa would be better than Orlando. Its only like 45 minutes away and if you say thats to far well thats the distance to go from Tampa to St.Pete so that could explain why not enough people go from Tampa. Plus Orlando is a lot like St. Pete in that there are a lot of people who relocated from elsewhere who have other teams that they root for. Its not like fans around Tampa dont care either, last year we were in the top 10 in the entire league for tv ratings.

And to whoever said that we have trouble drawing for playoff games is wrong. For game 3 of the ALDS our team president said there were 50-60 thousand people outside the stadium trying to get tickets. And game 4 was the first ever playoff game the Rays didnt sell out in their history and thats only because it was at 2 PM on a workday. In this economy most people cant afford to leave work to go to a rays game.

ne3xchamps
10-09-2011, 12:11 PM
So the Rays have poor attendance, therefore they might move. Meanwhile the Marlins have even worse attendance and they have a new stadium under construction.

Why?

Thats the million dollar question that baffles me as well.

ne3xchamps
10-09-2011, 12:13 PM
Portland Oregon, Charlotte North Carolina or Las Vegas Nevada would be my top choices. Shame for that team to have to move but as others have said Florida is not a great market for sports teams.

I wouldn't be so sure on Las Vegas, I'm pretty sure nevada is in rough shape economy wise.

SportsAndrew25
10-09-2011, 09:09 PM
Florida just does not like it's pro sports teams. Look at the attendance of teams like the Heat.

Jay
10-10-2011, 10:34 AM
Vancouver.

Fred
10-10-2011, 11:18 AM
Las Vegas Hitmes?

Yankee Clipper
10-10-2011, 11:22 AM
Las Vegas Hitmes?

Las Vegas Craps.

Miltstar
10-10-2011, 11:43 AM
I think they would do well in Vancouver. BC is a hotspot in Canada for baseball. Obviously they would have to change their name from the Rays though

Fred
10-10-2011, 12:11 PM
Las Vegas Craps.

haha..but, that wouldn't be the rays moving there, it would be the mets...:D

thawv
10-10-2011, 12:20 PM
North Carolina

NCBoSoxfan21
10-10-2011, 12:24 PM
Las Vegas Hitmes?

I'd honestly like to see something like the LV Blackjacks or Gamblers (Aces?), but I doubt it. More likely they will go with the UNLV naming and chose Raiders.

atl_braves_fan
10-10-2011, 12:38 PM
I'd honestly like to see something like the LV Blackjacks or Gamblers (Aces?), but I doubt it. More likely they will go with the UNLV naming and chose Raiders.

Do you mean Rebels?

Fred
10-10-2011, 01:32 PM
I'd honestly like to see something like the LV Blackjacks or Gamblers (Aces?), but I doubt it. More likely they will go with the UNLV naming and chose Raiders.

haha...I catually had gamblers in there but hitme sounded better...actually, though, I think you are on toe something with "Aces"

LV Aces

...the Rays could maintain their 4-digit name anyway....

Yankee Clipper
10-10-2011, 01:56 PM
haha..but, that wouldn't be the rays moving there, it would be the mets...:D

Well played, sir :laugh2:

GasMan
10-10-2011, 05:51 PM
Brooklyn, NJ, Hartford. I hear baseball fans live in that area.

avrpatsfan
10-10-2011, 07:05 PM
Las Vegas.

TheFanGuy
10-10-2011, 08:44 PM
Vegas has a AAA team already.

Green Storm
10-10-2011, 09:18 PM
With Selig threatening to kick the Dodgers out of Baseball if McCourt wins the Bankruptcy case then they might just send them to LA and change their name to Dodgers.

utl768
10-10-2011, 10:02 PM
vegas

Phantom Dreamer
04-03-2015, 05:14 AM
Denis Corderre has confirmed the Blue Jays/Reds series at Stade Olympique in Montreal, has sold at least 90,000 tickets.

Phantom Dreamer
04-03-2015, 08:09 PM
Huge crowd at Stade Olympique tonight for the Reds vs Blue Jays exhibition!

Rad_Racing
04-04-2015, 01:14 AM
Montreal Rays...hmmm I don't like it.

Definitely Montreal Expos again, same caps and unis:clap:

amnesiac
04-04-2015, 08:34 AM
BRING BACK THE 'SPOS!!!!

:clap::clap::clap:

Blainer88
04-04-2015, 11:34 AM
They should go to montreal then bring miami to vancouver

ciaban
04-04-2015, 11:55 AM
They should go to montreal then bring miami to vancouver

They could bring the A's to Vancouver, probably not a team with a new ugly stadium.

Jeffy25
04-04-2015, 12:29 PM
Denis Corderre has confirmed the Blue Jays/Reds series at Stade Olympique in Montreal, has sold at least 90,000 tickets.

Yeah, I saw photos, crazy packed up in there.

But probably mostly Jays fans living in that area getting a chance to see them play in person.

Phantom Dreamer
04-04-2015, 04:33 PM
96,545 attended the two games, two exhibitions, at Stade Olympique. They want the Expos back!

amnesiac
04-04-2015, 06:23 PM
Yeah, I saw photos, crazy packed up in there.

But probably mostly Jays fans living in that area getting a chance to see them play in person.

Being a Montrealer, I can tell you its all about bringing the Expos back, and they probably wouldve sold out regardless who the home team was.

That said, Im the first to say we need a new stadium first and foremost for it to work. After seeing 16 stadiums now, the Big O is/was by far the ugliest. Its not the ONLY reason why we were drawing less than 10K a game in the final seasons, but a better location and better ownership (damn you 1994!!!) would likely draw 30+K again for many years.

Heres to hoping!

Phantom Dreamer
04-04-2015, 08:45 PM
Stade Olympique isn't ugly, it is an engineering marvel. It's refreshing to see a baseball stadium that doesn't have a retro brick motif, with "traditional" dark green seats and outfield walls with contrived quirky dimensions. It just lacks the points of sale, that unfortunately are required in today's ballparks or should I say "mallparks"?

Phantom Dreamer
04-04-2015, 09:58 PM
The 4 games the past 2 springs at Stade Olympique averaged 48,228. The fans have proved they exist and relocation is better than expansion. Rays should become Expos 2.0!

WOwolfOL
04-04-2015, 10:37 PM
On Baseball Mogul 2006 I moved the Braves to Montreal and the attendance shot through the roof lol

JustinTime
04-04-2015, 11:41 PM
Both Vancouver and Montreal should have MLB, NHL, and NBA teams it's crazy they don't really especially Vancouver.

goingfor28
04-06-2015, 01:03 AM
The Trop is a dump. They need a new stadium or a new city.

Phantom Dreamer
04-06-2015, 02:47 AM
The Trop is a dump. They need a new stadium or a new city.There's more to it than that.

amnesiac
04-06-2015, 10:09 AM
Both Vancouver and Montreal should have MLB, NHL, and NBA teams it's crazy they don't really especially Vancouver.

NBA would never work, trust me.... its the same time as NHL.

amnesiac
04-06-2015, 10:12 AM
Stade Olympique isn't ugly, it is an engineering marvel. It's refreshing to see a baseball stadium that doesn't have a retro brick motif, with "traditional" dark green seats and outfield walls with contrived quirky dimensions. It just lacks the points of sale, that unfortunately are required in today's ballparks or should I say "mallparks"?

its was a "marvel" in 1969.... today its a hunk of concrete that looks cool from the outside and thats about it. Inside is anything but what a ballpark should look like, especially since the god awful retractable roof started malfunctioning.

Nothing beats a real stadium in the summer.

thomass
04-06-2015, 10:50 AM
I never understood how a stadium could deter people from going to games. I could care less about the age or look of a stadium. I go to a game to have fun. I've been to the trop in Tampa and had a great time. Floridians are just not good pro sports fans.

Blainer88
04-06-2015, 12:39 PM
Vancouver did have the grizzlies but obv that didnt work out. They are a prodominant hockey city but i think a baseball team would work. Not sure if theyd use bc place or if theyd build a new stadium

Blainer88
04-06-2015, 12:44 PM
I never understood how a stadium could deter people from going to games. I could care less about the age or look of a stadium. I go to a game to have fun. I've been to the trop in Tampa and had a great time. Floridians are just not good pro sports fans.

I think the look affects the atmosphere of the stadium. Also visual appearance is a big deal for a lot of people and the more updated the better. Ive been watching events from rogers centre back when it was skydome and it looked so plain but with the updated seating in centerfield, the screens along the walls and around the stadium it looks a lot nicer. Also everything has been painted blue around the seating so it gives more of a home team feel

AustinIllini
04-06-2015, 03:33 PM
NBA would never work, trust me.... its the same time as NHL.

The Toronto Raptors are really well supported.

AustinIllini
04-06-2015, 03:34 PM
I think the look affects the atmosphere of the stadium. Also visual appearance is a big deal for a lot of people and the more updated the better. Ive been watching events from rogers centre back when it was skydome and it looked so plain but with the updated seating in centerfield, the screens along the walls and around the stadium it looks a lot nicer. Also everything has been painted blue around the seating so it gives more of a home team feel

I was under the impression no one wanted to go to St. Petersburg for a baseball game.

ChI_ShIzzLe
04-06-2015, 07:12 PM
Why the hell would you bump a 4 yr old thread..smh

amnesiac
04-06-2015, 07:28 PM
The Toronto Raptors are really well supported.

Toronto is also almost double the population of Montreal.

Montreal is a Habs city. We wouldnt embrace basketball, let alone a team who plays at the same time as the Habs.

rapsjaysfan88
04-06-2015, 07:48 PM
Toronto is also almost double the population of Montreal.

Montreal is a Habs city. We wouldnt embrace basketball, let alone a team who plays at the same time as the Habs.

Speak 4 urself, ppl love bball in Mtl.

JustinTime
04-06-2015, 07:56 PM
NBA would never work, trust me.... its the same time as NHL.

Montreal is easily the second biggest basketball town in Canada after Toronto. Montreal sold out both preseason Raptor games with 22,000 +. Also, Montreal has 2 active NBA players already with more coming up like Olivier Hanlan.

As for Vancouver, the Grizzles were literally the worst franchise to ever play in the NBA and that product wouldn't have even survived in NY or LA. They had a record of 101-359 which is 21.9 W% through their entire existence and the fans were still over 13700 each year despite knowing they'd be moved. Vancouver's demographics are a lot different now too and there are a ton of extremely wealthy Chinese people who are crazy about basketball here (Richmond BC). There's no way that the team would fail a second time under local ownership. The way Toronto has been pumping out players recently you'd think the NBA would be all over Vancouver and Montreal especially with so many teams in dumb locations. An MLB team in Vancouver is a bigger question IMO just because I don't think Baseball is as popular as basketball.

Phantom Dreamer
04-07-2015, 02:49 AM
Why the hell would you bump a 4 yr old thread..smhUh, because Montreal for the second straight spring drew over 96,000 for a two game exhibition series and there are groups clamoring for the Rays to move to Montreal. Pay attention.

Phantom Dreamer
04-07-2015, 02:52 AM
Stade Olympique isn't ugly, it is an engineering marvel. It's refreshing to see a baseball stadium that doesn't have a retro brick motif, with "traditional" dark green seats and outfield walls with contrived quirky dimensions. It just lacks the points of sale, that unfortunately are required in today's ballparks or should I say "mallparks"?

its was a "marvel" in 1969.... today its a hunk of concrete that looks cool from the outside and thats about it. Inside is anything but what a ballpark should look like, especially since the god awful retractable roof started malfunctioning.

Nothing beats a real stadium in the summer.What should a ballpark "on the inside" look like? What's a real stadium? The last thing baseball needs is more of the same from the Populous assembly line.

Phantom Dreamer
04-07-2015, 02:53 AM
Stade Olympique isn't ugly, it is an engineering marvel. It's refreshing to see a baseball stadium that doesn't have a retro brick motif, with "traditional" dark green seats and outfield walls with contrived quirky dimensions. It just lacks the points of sale, that unfortunately are required in today's ballparks or should I say "mallparks"?

its was a "marvel" in 1969.... today its a hunk of concrete that looks cool from the outside and thats about it. Inside is anything but what a ballpark should look like, especially since the god awful retractable roof started malfunctioning.

Nothing beats a real stadium in the summer.Plus, Stade Olympique didn't even exist in 1969. The Expos didn't start playing there until 1977.

Shifty1 69
04-07-2015, 11:00 AM
^^Nonetheless, The "Big-O" is not a nice stadium.

I do not think that a nice stadium is necessary for me to enjoy the game... reasonably priced concessions and beer would do a lot more to enhance my enjoyment than a pretty fašade.... that being said, I made the trip to Montreal for the games this weekend and the stadium is in desperate need of replacing or perhaps a complete and total gutting and remodel.

LechWalesa
04-07-2015, 01:43 PM
^^Nonetheless, The "Big-O" is not a nice stadium.

I do not think that a nice stadium is necessary for me to enjoy the game... reasonably priced concessions and beer would do a lot more to enhance my enjoyment than a pretty fašade.... that being said, I made the trip to Montreal for the games this weekend and the stadium is in desperate need of replacing or perhaps a complete and total gutting and remodel.

I think the gutting/remodel makes more sense. An outdoor stadium in Montreal would be a disaster in April.

JustinTime
04-07-2015, 02:47 PM
I think the gutting/remodel makes more sense. An outdoor stadium in Montreal would be a disaster in April.

Montreal needs a new stadium period. Why would the MLB give Montreal the Rays if they were going to play in the same awful stadium that cost them the Expos in the first place? Montreal was getting only like 2,000 fans some games back then at Olympic Stadium. They need a stadium with a retractable roof somewhere downtown for it to even be considered.

joshhorvath
04-07-2015, 04:20 PM
Montreal needs a new stadium period. Why would the MLB give Montreal the Rays if they were going to play in the same awful stadium that cost them the Expos in the first place? Montreal was getting only like 2,000 fans some games back then at Olympic Stadium. They need a stadium with a retractable roof somewhere downtown for it to even be considered.

Expos would play 1-2 seasons while stadium is being built. But manfred said Montreal needs a new stadium before the thought even crosses his mind. But i think montreal is best baseball market in canada

rapjuicer06
04-07-2015, 05:08 PM
Bring a team to Iowa or Nebraska. The support that the people give to the minor league teams and the college teams is unreal. Bring a professional team here and it'd be crazy. Midwest always has some of the best fans. Look at th Cubs, Cardinals, Brewes, Royals, Reds. Bring a team to Iowa. Man, I would love a professional team in Iowa.

RamOG
04-07-2015, 05:29 PM
Bring a team to Iowa or Nebraska. The support that the people give to the minor league teams and the college teams is unreal. Bring a professional team here and it'd be crazy. Midwest always has some of the best fans. Look at th Cubs, Cardinals, Brewes, Royals, Reds. Bring a team to Iowa. Man, I would love a professional team in Iowa.

An Iowa or Nebraska team would make a lot of sense. The weather would be the biggest drawback, but if it works in Milwaukee, Chicago, Detroit and Minneapolis, no reason it can't work in NE or IA

rapjuicer06
04-07-2015, 05:57 PM
An Iowa or Nebraska team would make a lot of sense. The weather would be the biggest drawback, but if it works in Milwaukee, Chicago, Detroit and Minneapolis, no reason it can't work in NE or IA

Exactly! Minneapolis and Detroit are worse than anywhere in Iowa or Nebraska. It would make a lot of sense to have baseball around here. I mean College World Series is HUGE. Nebraska football, Iowa anything whether it be UNI, Iowa State, Iowa...travel very well. We love our sports here just like other states, but don't get any professional teams because were "small market"...it sucks.

StayOnBoard
04-07-2015, 05:59 PM
Expos would play 1-2 seasons while stadium is being built. But manfred said Montreal needs a new stadium before the thought even crosses his mind. But i think montreal is best baseball market in canada

Yeah I dont think they give them a team until a new stadium is built. They'd stay in Tampa until they were ready...


Montreal needs a new stadium period. Why would the MLB give Montreal the Rays if they were going to play in the same awful stadium that cost them the Expos in the first place? Montreal was getting only like 2,000 fans some games back then at Olympic Stadium. They need a stadium with a retractable roof somewhere downtown for it to even be considered.

100% ^

JustinTime
04-07-2015, 06:27 PM
Bring a team to Iowa or Nebraska. The support that the people give to the minor league teams and the college teams is unreal. Bring a professional team here and it'd be crazy. Midwest always has some of the best fans. Look at th Cubs, Cardinals, Brewes, Royals, Reds. Bring a team to Iowa. Man, I would love a professional team in Iowa.

There's no city in either of those states large enough to have a MLB team. I think the biggest city in Iowa doesn't even have a metro population of a million people. Also, Minor league/college support doesn't always translate to pro support if it did the Indiana Pacers would sellout every game.

AustinIllini
04-07-2015, 09:47 PM
There's no city in either of those states large enough to have a MLB team. I think the biggest city in Iowa doesn't even have a metro population of a million people. Also, Minor league/college support doesn't always translate to pro support if it did the Indiana Pacers would sellout every game.

...and Austin would have a team. Strong minor league following and a large city (a little bigger than Indianapolis)

ciaban
04-08-2015, 03:26 AM
Expos would play 1-2 seasons while stadium is being built. But manfred said Montreal needs a new stadium before the thought even crosses his mind. But i think montreal is best baseball market in canada

B.C. is the territory where all the best Canadian players come from, Vancouver would be a better market, plus there would be an instant rivalry with Seattle.

ciaban
04-08-2015, 03:29 AM
Exactly! Minneapolis and Detroit are worse than anywhere in Iowa or Nebraska. It would make a lot of sense to have baseball around here. I mean College World Series is HUGE. Nebraska football, Iowa anything whether it be UNI, Iowa State, Iowa...travel very well. We love our sports here just like other states, but don't get any professional teams because were "small market"...it sucks.


There's no city in either of those states large enough to have a MLB team. I think the biggest city in Iowa doesn't even have a metro population of a million people. Also, Minor league/college support doesn't always translate to pro support if it did the Indiana Pacers would sellout every game.
It would have to be in Omaha NE, since it's the most central located city between in that area, Lincon, Sioux City and Des Moines are all around an 1 to 2 hours driving time from Omaha.

rapjuicer06
04-08-2015, 09:20 AM
It would have to be in Omaha NE, since it's the most central located city between in that area, Lincon, Sioux City and Des Moines are all around an 1 to 2 hours driving time from Omaha.

Omaha would be perfect for it

PraiseJesus
04-08-2015, 08:15 PM
the Las Vegas Rays

AustinIllini
04-08-2015, 08:25 PM
Omaha would be perfect for it

That just seems like way too large of a radius to draw fans from. Omaha isn't all that big.

Phantom Dreamer
04-09-2015, 06:00 PM
The only reason baseball expanded in the nineties was to pay off the collusion settlement.

WOwolfOL
04-09-2015, 06:17 PM
Omaha is a total launching pad in the minors IIRC and I'm pretty sure pitchers would hate it there. It would need to be a pretty big stadium.

AustinIllini
04-09-2015, 06:35 PM
Omaha is a total launching pad in the minors IIRC and I'm pretty sure pitchers would hate it there. It would need to be a pretty big stadium.

I said this already, but Austin-San Antonio is a significantly better market. Austin-Round Rock is 1.8 million people. Greater San Antonio is 2.3 million people. 4.1 million people within something like 50 miles of a central location. That's money right there.

WOwolfOL
04-09-2015, 06:45 PM
Tried moving a franchise there back in the day on Baseball Mogul and attendance sucked lol

It could work IRL though

zookman65
04-14-2015, 09:50 PM
Uranus or downtown Tampa

Phantom Dreamer
04-15-2015, 07:36 PM
I think the gutting/remodel makes more sense. An outdoor stadium in Montreal would be a disaster in April.

Montreal needs a new stadium period. Why would the MLB give Montreal the Rays if they were going to play in the same awful stadium that cost them the Expos in the first place? Montreal was getting only like 2,000 fans some games back then at Olympic Stadium. They need a stadium with a retractable roof somewhere downtown for it to even be considered.They weren't drawing in Montreal because of terrible owners and MLB made the Expos a lame duck franchise.

Phantom Dreamer
06-01-2015, 02:12 PM
5 reasons the Tampa Bay Rays should play some 2016 regular season games in Montreal
http://www.forbes.com/sites/maurybrown/2015/06/01/5-reasons-the-tampa-bay-rays-should-play-some-2016-regular-season-games-in-montreal/
I don't believe their Tropicana lease would allow it however.

dodgerdave
06-01-2015, 02:17 PM
They weren't drawing in Montreal because of terrible owners and MLB made the Expos a lame duck franchise.

Monterrey, Mexico would be a better choice than Montreal.

Big Zo
06-02-2015, 09:26 AM
Las Vegas, Portland, and San Antonio are the names that always show up, when talking about re-location. I'd go with Portland.

Nomar
06-02-2015, 12:36 PM
Carolina, Vegas, Portland would all be great places.

Vegas would probably get the least fight from existing franchises, but I think Carolina would be the best location for the team.

MavsUCCB
06-03-2015, 08:40 AM
I would hope that MLB would come back to Montreal, and to be in the same division as the Jays would make this work this time. I know they packed the building for 2 games in the spring but if it was to work they would need a downtown stadium in Montreal. Road trips to Montreal are great and in the summer with baseball it would be even better.

IBleedPurple
06-04-2015, 03:57 AM
An Iowa or Nebraska team would make a lot of sense. The weather would be the biggest drawback, but if it works in Milwaukee, Chicago, Detroit and Minneapolis, no reason it can't work in NE or IA

Exactly! Minneapolis and Detroit are worse than anywhere in Iowa or Nebraska. It would make a lot of sense to have baseball around here. I mean College World Series is HUGE. Nebraska football, Iowa anything whether it be UNI, Iowa State, Iowa...travel very well. We love our sports here just like other states, but don't get any professional teams because were "small market"...it sucks.Minneapolis is far and away better than Nebraska or Iowa, and it's not even remotely close. Detroit is a dump though.

Phantom Dreamer
06-05-2015, 11:19 PM
They weren't drawing in Montreal because of terrible owners and MLB made the Expos a lame duck franchise.

Monterrey, Mexico would be a better choice than Montreal.I love Estadio de Beisbol Monterrey, but no, it would not.

Muttman73
06-08-2015, 10:33 AM
San Antonio, this city is ready for a team