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JordansBulls
09-27-2011, 08:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4RhYsNPMgU

From that it looks like they have the 1986, 1991, 1993 and 1998 Bulls on it not 1996 Bulls.

smith&wesson
09-27-2011, 08:08 PM
ratings are brutal. i wonder why they think so little of most nba talent.

murphturph
09-27-2011, 08:08 PM
The raptors once again get mad shafted.... wtf ratings are 68 and 69 for bargnani and Derozan respectivlly

Sadds The Gr8
09-27-2011, 08:10 PM
the raptors got ****ed so hard :laugh: I know our team sucks *** but cmon...how the hell is Humphries > Bargnani and Barnes > Derozan?

I hate Rupaul like hell, but how the **** is Amar'e 8 ratings higher? and how is Noah better than him?

MrfadeawayJB
09-27-2011, 08:10 PM
this video quality sucks.... for my team, the grizz, I am kind of suprised to see Z-BO at 83 and Marc Gasol a 73....Marc should be closer to 80 imo

Gators123
09-27-2011, 08:16 PM
Unbelievable. Greg Monroe got screwed.

Knicks21
09-27-2011, 08:27 PM
Ratings are very, very harsh, players are getting screwed.

Gallo 67, Wilson Chandler 80.

Martel Webster is not better than Gallinari.

iggypop123
09-27-2011, 08:35 PM
they would really get good PR and say since there is a lockout we'll sell it for 40 so you dont feel this is getting the same game with the year different on the cover.

Stunner
09-27-2011, 08:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91aCBNzVgcg&feature=channel_video_title

Stunner
09-27-2011, 08:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdGrNV1wqVw&feature=channel_video_title

010957
09-27-2011, 08:47 PM
Very surprised to se galo 67 compared to 80 wilson chandler...... Galo got the start for being a better player.......Apparently Gallo wouldn't even break the top 8 players on the piston LOL..... sooo, looks like something went wrong there.. And Andrew bynum isn't as good as the likes of marc gasol(73?), or tyson chandler (70??) at the centre possition.. How did he get 79????.. Where is the sense in that

ewmania
09-27-2011, 08:47 PM
the raptors got ****ed so hard :laugh: I know our team sucks *** but cmon...how the hell is Humphries > Bargnani and Barnes > Derozan?

I hate Rupaul like hell, but how the **** is Amar'e 8 ratings higher? and how is Noah better than him?

ratings aren't one dimensional in 2k games.... so just because a 7footer can shoot from the outside and hit FT's doesn't automatically give him a 70+ rating

amare is a consistent 25+ scorer, he's athletic, averaged 2blocks, 8rebounds a game this season and he's one of the best high post players in the league so a 88 ratings is by far fair

humphries isnt the player to build around but he does alot of good things bit by bit, he can rebound and he's real smart player

too be honest the guy who is completely overrated in the ratings is gilbert arenas... 77? really lol.. more like a 72

ewmania
09-27-2011, 08:49 PM
Very surprised to se galo 67 compared to 80 wilson chandler...... Galo got the start for being a better player.......Apparently Gallo wouldn't even break the top 8 players on the piston LOL..... sooo, looks like something went wrong there.. And Andrew bynum isn't as good as the likes of marc gasol(73?), or tyson chandler (70??) at the centre possition.. How did he get 79????.. Where is the sense in that

if galo was a little more athletic i think his rating would of been a little higher, he's a little slow on the dribble but I do miss the kid

wilson may not be a prime player but he has all the basics locked down

ok jumper, plays defense and is highly athletic... he played a good 3 positions when we had him in new york and he done well

EDIT: galo also has a hard time finishing at the rim even tho he gets to the FT line from time to time

Tdotraptors
09-27-2011, 08:53 PM
no rookies?

Sadds The Gr8
09-27-2011, 08:54 PM
ratings aren't one dimensional in 2k games.... so just because a 7footer can shoot from the outside and hit FT's doesn't automatically give him a 70+ rating

amare is a consistent 25+ scorer, he's athletic, averaged 2blocks, 8rebounds a game this season and he's one of the best high post players in the league so a 88 ratings is by far fair

humphries isnt the player to build around but he does alot of good things bit by bit, he can rebound and he's real smart player

too be honest the guy who is completely overrated in the ratings is gilbert arenas... 77? really lol.. more like a 72

i know amare is good. but he isn't 8 ratings better than Rupaul. Rupaul should be like an 84...

Sadds The Gr8
09-27-2011, 08:54 PM
no rookies?

no they didn't have the rights to them. because of the lockout

coryd238
09-27-2011, 08:58 PM
Gallo is much, much better than a 67. These ratings are horrible.

Stunner
09-27-2011, 08:59 PM
http://www.twitch.tv/kinkoman24 live footage

ewmania
09-27-2011, 09:04 PM
i know amare is good. but he isn't 8 ratings better than Rupaul. Rupaul should be like an 84...

lol. bosh isnt all that athletic and he doesn't have much strength as amare or gasol. the ratings are usually based on the position you play

like say if the PG is a great passer with great ball handle, his rating would be more higher than a PG with great shooting abilities. example if you switch george hill position to a 2 guard his rating would go up for the simple fact his abilities fit more of a 2 guard

Bosh is very skilled but he gets bullied alot if you throw a strong defensive 4 or 5 in his face. He doesn't really draw double teams like howard, amare or gasol would. I swear amare had about 3 to 4 guys circling him everytime he would get the ball

Sadds The Gr8
09-27-2011, 09:07 PM
I know he's good. but Bosh is better on defense and rebounding, which is also holds alot of importance as a big man.

Dmagic87
09-27-2011, 09:09 PM
Can you use historical teams online?

ewmania
09-27-2011, 09:15 PM
I know he's good. but Bosh is better on defense and rebounding, which is also holds alot of importance as a big man.

they are not that far in rebounding with each other. amare averaged 8.8 rebounds in his career and bosh averaged 9.2 ... amare is also more efficient than bosh, and amare averages more blocks than bosh but i do believe bosh is a better defender

I just think people underrate amare too much he's a way better player than people give him credit for.. he's a superstar and even though i respect bosh game I don't think he can personally do for a team what lebron & wade did or nash & amare did

roshan3ai
09-27-2011, 09:18 PM
They really made Gallo a 67? Really?


Also, Amar'e has a B+ post defense :laugh2:

knightstemplar
09-27-2011, 09:21 PM
Pau Gasol is an 86 , Dirk is a 85
:facepalm:

****in retards

ewmania
09-27-2011, 09:22 PM
They really made Gallo a 67? Really?


Also, Amar'e has a B+ post defense :laugh2:

haha, I know it looks dumb but if you knew what certain ratings went by in the game it wouldn't seem that way

post defense goes by, strength, blocks, def. rebounding, vertical, def. awareness,

i must admit they do overrate his defense awareness, amare looks lost on defense alot of times lol

knightstemplar
09-27-2011, 09:29 PM
Dirk gets disrespected hard in this game

allSUAVE
09-27-2011, 09:31 PM
amare is rated higher than dirk??

Avenged
09-27-2011, 09:39 PM
Dirk got disrespected in 2k11 as well.

allSUAVE
09-27-2011, 09:40 PM
what am i saying amare is great and my fav. PF in the league anyways

H0T SAUCE
09-27-2011, 09:54 PM
I think once the game comes out that there's gonna be a roster update

Rego247
09-27-2011, 09:59 PM
I know he's good. but Bosh is better on defense and rebounding, which is also holds alot of importance as a big man.

I can't believe your standing up for Rupaul. :speechless:

allSUAVE
09-27-2011, 10:01 PM
NEGATIVE if Miami had this guy except for bosh spice they would've won the tittle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAhaKLxwR2E

asandhu23
09-27-2011, 10:17 PM
I like Warrior's ratings. 79 for David Lee is kind of weird. He was way better than Curry last year and Curry has 80....

TO Rapz
09-27-2011, 10:21 PM
The ratings are god awful.

ChiSox219
09-27-2011, 10:28 PM
Blake Griffin 92 dunk is ********.


Dirk gets disrespected hard in this game

Dirk isn't athletic and isn't a great defender. He is an excellent shooter with a vast array of moves. His rating in 2k11 was 85 I believe and it seemed appropriate based on his real life skill set.

Sandman
09-27-2011, 10:34 PM
The ratings are accurate. Guys like Gallinari are going to have low ratings because they are lacking in other areas like defense or rebounding.

That doesn't mean you can't still get 30ppg with him if you shoot all day with him. If you're building with role players, you can't look at overall ratings.

Baller1
09-27-2011, 10:34 PM
Someone wanna tell me what the Thunder ratings are, please?

fadedmario
09-27-2011, 10:38 PM
Not buying this game anyway. No rookies - No money

Gators123
09-27-2011, 10:39 PM
Someone wanna tell me what the Thunder ratings are, please?

Durant- 92
Westbrook- 88
Sefolosha- 68
Ibaka- 75
Perkins- 71
Harden- 74

fadedmario
09-27-2011, 10:43 PM
How is Greg Monroe a 65? He was a 70 last year. WTF

Stunner
09-27-2011, 10:50 PM
http://www.twitch.tv/kinkoman24 < playing live game footage

Baller1
09-27-2011, 11:00 PM
Durant- 92
Westbrook- 88
Sefolosha- 68
Ibaka- 75
Perkins- 71
Harden- 74

Thanks man.

Surprised that Ibaka is higher than Harden, I thought Harden would be at least in the high 70's.

TheRunKiller
09-27-2011, 11:01 PM
deng & boozer only 77??? well at least bulls have the best player in 2k DRose

Chill_Will_24
09-27-2011, 11:05 PM
What are they gonna do about the rookies? Will there be like a DLC when the lockout ends?

Stuckey#3
09-27-2011, 11:10 PM
I'm not buying this **** until the lockout is over... I'm sure I'm not alone on this. 2K Sports is going to lose a lot of money during the lockout. Sorry Legends mode might be cool but it doesn't make up for no rookies.
Douchebaggery.

likemystylez
09-27-2011, 11:12 PM
I'm not buying this **** until the lockout is over... I'm sure I'm not alone on this. 2K Sports is going to lose a lot of money during the lockout. Sorry Legends mode might be cool but it doesn't make up for no rookies.
Douchebaggery.

You realize that the rookies missing is not the fault of 2k at all right?

Sadds The Gr8
09-27-2011, 11:13 PM
The ratings are god awful.

stfu

JordansBulls
09-27-2011, 11:15 PM
(Per a Dime magazine leak)

Rose - 92
Stephen Jackson – 83
Noah – 82
KG – 83
Pierce – 82
R. Allen – 80
B. Griffin – 85
R. Gay – 86
Z. Randolph – 83
Joe Johnson – 84
J. Smith – 84
Horford – 80
Wade – 96
‘Bron – 98
Bosh – 80
C. Paul – 93
Millsap – 80
A. Jefferson – 81
T. Evans – 80
‘Melo – 91
Amar’e – 88
Billups – 79
Kobe – 94
Gasol -86
D. Howard – 93
Dirk – 85
Butler – 81
D. Williams – 90
W. Chandler - 80
Granger – 81
Prince – 77
RIP – 76
Barbosa – 71
K. Martin – 79
K. Lowry – 76
Scola – 77
T. Parker – 80
Manu – 85
Duncan – 84
Nash – 84
G. Hill – 80
A. Brooks – 75
Westbrook – 88
Durant – 92
Beasley – 78
K. Love – 81
Felton – 75
G. Wallace – 83
L. Aldridge – 83
B. Roy – 78
S. Curry – 80
Ellis – 83
D. Lee – 79
John Wall – 82

Stuckey#3
09-27-2011, 11:16 PM
Wow. Greg Monroe at 65, Barea at 65, Dirk at 85(Finals MVP) and Gallo at 67?

Did Jon Berry and Kelly Dwyer make these ratings?

Bruno
09-27-2011, 11:27 PM
Dirk got shafted.

He's only one point higher than Joe Johnson.

Stuckey#3
09-27-2011, 11:28 PM
You realize that the rookies missing is not the fault of 2k at all right?

I don't give a ****. Maybe they can add a little pressure towards the league to end the lockout. I'm sure other companies who sell apparrel, merchandise and collectables will tighten the bolts as well when they start losing money.

Sandman
09-27-2011, 11:31 PM
I don't give a ****.
Well, its still not 2Ks fault.

Maybe they can add a little pressure towards the league to end the lockout. I'm sure other companies who sell apparrel, merchandise and collectables will tighten the bolts as well when they start losing money.
I don't think 2K holds any cards in the lock out.

I also think that 2K is one of the few companies that will be able to profit in the basketball industry. Playing the video game will be the only way to get NBA action while there are no games on.

j-bay
09-27-2011, 11:32 PM
John Wall should at least be an 83-84

Sadds The Gr8
09-27-2011, 11:36 PM
Dirk being low is expected. the only thing he can do really is shoot. he's average at everything else. he's dominant but only at one part of the game.

fadedmario
09-28-2011, 12:02 AM
The ratings are horrible, there are no rookies, everyone I know is not buying this game yet. Everyone I know usually buys this game at midnight on Monday at 12 am (Tuesday morning - you get it). I'm telling you people 2k is going to lose more money than you think.

marj987
09-28-2011, 01:47 AM
THis is........So........WRONG!
Dirk still an 85?
****ing Joke man, hopefully updates can fix this up.

GhostfaceDrilla
09-28-2011, 01:47 AM
Blake Griffin 92 dunk is ********.



Dirk isn't athletic and isn't a great defender. He is an excellent shooter with a vast array of moves. His rating in 2k11 was 85 I believe and it seemed appropriate based on his real life skill set.

And he also just happened to lead his team to a championship, and he also happens to be a top 20 player of all time. 88 for Amare is laughable. Dirk should be at about a 96 while Amare should be like 83.

GhostfaceDrilla
09-28-2011, 01:51 AM
Dirk being low is expected. the only thing he can do really is shoot. he's average at everything else. he's dominant but only at one part of the game.

Dirk just led his team to a title and the only thing he can do is shoot. Wtf....

He is a very good rebounder, an exceptional passer for a 7 footer.

Spiggity_ace
09-28-2011, 02:15 AM
greg monroe ****in 65? wut the **** how does his rating drop???? im outraged nd bosh only gets shafted cuz the media bashes him he should easily be a 90 or at least a 88

Sadds The Gr8
09-28-2011, 02:28 AM
Dirk just led his team to a title and the only thing he can do is shoot. Wtf....

He is a very good rebounder, an exceptional passer for a 7 footer.

he can rebound, but he isn't great at it. he's average. and he can pass well for a big man, but it's not like 2K is gonna give him a high passing rating because he isn't known for being a great passing big like Gasol and KG.

Amare is rated higher because he has mid-range going for him, as well as dunking, the athleticism things (like speed and strength) and a decent post-up rating. he also has his blocking rating higher than Dirk's i'd imagine. While Dirk has the shooting and post-up ratings high, and that's pretty much it. I personally think it's dumb that dunking and athleticism affects a player's rating so much, but it is what it is...

ewmania
09-28-2011, 02:41 AM
why are people upset about the dirk ratings... if you look closely offense, defense & rebounds is broken up in 3 sets... dirk isn't really a good defender and that effects ratings

so what the game suppose to raise up his defense level and athleticism just so he can be in the 90's??? lol

Canterbury
09-28-2011, 02:42 AM
Isn't it possible that they could add fictitious rookie players based off their real life counter parts?

Fake name, fake college and all? Just filler until the lockout is over and they are eligible for update?

MTar786
09-28-2011, 05:39 AM
lebron has no business being a 98.. he should be 96.. 97 MAX.. but no way in hell 98

MTar786
09-28-2011, 05:40 AM
why are people upset about the dirk ratings... if you look closely offense, defense & rebounds is broken up in 3 sets... dirk isn't really a good defender and that effects ratings

so what the game suppose to raise up his defense level and athleticism just so he can be in the 90's??? lol

lol and amare is a terrible rebounder and defender.. that means amare should be under an 83

MTar786
09-28-2011, 05:46 AM
athletisism really matters in the rating of this game.. thats why kobes only a 94 now, dirk is an 85, nash is an 83 while guys like lerbon are over rated.. infact carter is like a 70 now haha.. athletisim gone.. decent rating goes with it

wjmoffatt
09-28-2011, 07:18 AM
No Way Duncan should be that high, or Bynum that low. Durant a 92, while Lebron is a 96, no f***ing way! Dirk got screwed too, and Amare is better than what people think. Howard should be the highest rated player in the game!

NYtilIdie
09-28-2011, 07:41 AM
Why do the ratings get lower and lower every year?

NBA-GMaster
09-28-2011, 07:50 AM
High ratings:
J. Holiday 79 (too high)
S. Jackson 83
E. Boykins 72 (too high)
J. Noah 82 (slight high)
J. Graham 70
E. Gordon 82 (slight high)
I. Smith 69 (too high)
C. Butler 81 (slight high)
S. Marion 78
W. Chandler 80 (too high)
Kyn. Martin 76
T. Prince 77
T. Williams 72
M. Ginobili 85 (slight high)
Gnt. Hill 80 (too high)
J. Dudley 72
S. Ibaka 75(too high)
N. Robinson 74

Low ratings:
J. Meeks 62
S. Hawes 59
K. Brown 59
B. Diaw 65
K. Korver 62
O. Asik 55
D. Gibson 61
E. Bledsoe 65
D. Jordan 65
Z. Randolph 83
M. Gasol 73
J. Teague 63
C. Bosh 80
D. West 74
E. Okafor 73
T. Ariza 72
C. Landry 71
M. WorldPeace 71
J. Richardson 73
J. Redick 64
D. Nowitzki 85
J. Barea 65
B. Haywood 65
T. Chandler 70
J. Farmar 63
A. Morrow 64
D. Gallinari 67
D. Granger 81
T. McGrady 69
G. Monroe 65
D. Derozan 69
A. Bargnani 68
C. Budinger 70
R. Rubio 67
A. Biedrins 61
J. McGee 70

juno10
09-28-2011, 09:11 AM
lebron has no business being a 98.. he should be 96.. 97 MAX.. but no way in hell 98

your ****ing about one point? whats the diff between 97 and 98 not that much jeez.

mttwlsn16
09-28-2011, 09:41 AM
blake should be a 99

mttwlsn16
09-28-2011, 09:47 AM
I'm not buying this **** until the lockout is over... I'm sure I'm not alone on this. 2K Sports is going to lose a lot of money during the lockout. Sorry Legends mode might be cool but it doesn't make up for no rookies.
Douchebaggery.

ya as much as a love 2k i think i agree w you here...its going to be stupid with no rookies during the lockout. and i dont wanna start a season, then th lockout ends and i have to restart to play w the kids.

fk u stern!!!!!!!!!!!

ChiSox219
09-28-2011, 10:16 AM
And he also just happened to lead his team to a championship, and he also happens to be a top 20 player of all time. 88 for Amare is laughable. Dirk should be at about a 96 while Amare should be like 83.

There no rating category for "teams led to a championship" or "all-time player ranking", not that Dirk is top 20 anyway.

JordansBulls
09-28-2011, 10:18 AM
Can you run these teams in a season or are they only in exhibition mode?

ManningToTyree
09-28-2011, 10:24 AM
I'll buy it if and when the lockout ends. 2k11 will suffice until then.

NYKnickFanatic
09-28-2011, 10:34 AM
Gallo only a 67? :laugh2:

benzni
09-28-2011, 10:50 AM
Man this game sounds like a rip off. No rookies, ***** ratings, just wait for 2k13

Phenomenonsense
09-28-2011, 11:06 AM
Greg Monroe going down 5 points from last season while only getting better the entire season is ****ing ********.

NYKnickFanatic
09-28-2011, 11:14 AM
Dont forget guys, they do updates, so I wouldnt be surprised to see players ratings go up/down.

Phenomenonsense
09-28-2011, 11:25 AM
I just don't get how Cousins and Favors are both 5+ points better than Monroe in any way.

85BearsDefense
09-28-2011, 11:53 AM
wait... Luol Deng is only a 77... how is Grant Hill better than Luol Deng... this is absurd... Tim Duncan blew last year he didnt get any worse... Luol Deng improved yet falls off

cardinals1226
09-28-2011, 12:06 PM
I like how everyone is getting pissed at the ratings. This is someone claiming to have 2k12 ratings when reality this is 2k11. 2k12 hasn't even released ratings yet so why would some random guy on youtube be the first to "leak" the teams?

mightybosstone
09-28-2011, 12:11 PM
Wow... the Rockets don't have a single player rated above 79. Martin, Lowry and Scola should be in the 80s, IMO.

PacersForLife
09-28-2011, 12:19 PM
Dirk should probably have a slightly higher rating... As for my Pacers, Danny Granger gets shafted more and more every year, he could easily have an 85 rating. A.J. Price is actually a decent backup, could start for some teams in the league, and he gets a 52 rating. I honestly think if you are lower than 60 rating you don't even belong in the NBA so I question some of the guys that are rated in the 50s and even 40s. Still gonna buy the game of course, and hope the ratings improve if and when the season starts.

SpeeMN
09-28-2011, 12:36 PM
Rubio being 67 may be low but its not like he has proved anything yet. Kevin Love at 81 is low but I know his defense sucks. But how is he expected to get 20 points, 15 rebounds, great passing, 40% 3pt, and now experience. 81 might not cut it for him. I am also taken back by the Greg Monroe rating, that man is going to be a beast this year, and was great this past year! shafted

MJ-BULLS
09-28-2011, 12:37 PM
All these ratings are crap.

TheRunKiller
09-28-2011, 12:46 PM
blake should be a 99

99 rebound & dunk but not overall, 85 is good rating for him

Stack_NJNets
09-28-2011, 12:48 PM
the raptors got ****ed so hard :laugh: I know our team sucks *** but cmon...how the hell is Humphries > Bargnani and Barnes > Derozan?

I hate Rupaul like hell, but how the **** is Amar'e 8 ratings higher? and how is Noah better than him?


DeRozan is Lower than Barbosa WOW.

P.S My friend uploaded that video that is your sig.

Evolution23
09-28-2011, 12:56 PM
Finals MVP Dirk is a 85.
2k ****ed him up again.

Chronz
09-28-2011, 01:02 PM
DeRozan is Lower than Barbosa WOW.

P.S My friend uploaded that video that is your sig.

WOW? Sounds like you take style and flash over substance

Chronz
09-28-2011, 01:04 PM
the raptors got ****ed so hard :laugh: I know our team sucks *** but cmon...how the hell is Humphries > Bargnani and Barnes > Derozan?

I hate Rupaul like hell, but how the **** is Amar'e 8 ratings higher? and how is Noah better than him?
Matt Barnes over Derozen is legit, the other is bad

Chronz
09-28-2011, 01:08 PM
Finals MVP Dirk is a 85.
2k ****ed him up again.

Hardly, its just hard to boost the overall of a guy who lacks in the areas the prototypical PF is expected to excel in, if they switch the system to emphasize shooting and scoring then other players may shine brighter than guys they shouldnt, since Dirk is a rare player its better to underrate him (according to overall) than overrate alot of other guys.

Still overalls are never my problem with the ratings, its their individual ratings that irk me. Athleticism, Defense, and mid range shooting tend to stand out for me.

Sadds The Gr8
09-28-2011, 01:09 PM
Hardly, its just hard to boost the overall of a guy who lacks in the areas the prototypical PF is expected to excel in, if they switch the system to emphasize shooting and scoring then other players may shine brighter than guys they shouldnt, since Dirk is a rare player its better to underrate him (according to overall) than overrate alot of other guys.

Still overalls are never my problem with the ratings, its their individual ratings that irk me. Athleticism, Defense, and mid range shooting tend to stand out for me.

especially this.

RipCity32
09-28-2011, 01:09 PM
65 for Monroe hilarious

Sadds The Gr8
09-28-2011, 01:10 PM
65 for Monroe hilarious

at least you have players ranked over 70...the Raptors got did dirty.

JordansBulls
09-28-2011, 01:13 PM
So can you use the legends teams in a "playoff mode"? Last year you could use them in a season or association mode, but not playoff mode, can you use them in "playoff mode" this year?

Stack_NJNets
09-28-2011, 01:40 PM
WOW? Sounds like you take style and flash over substance

No I don't. That's why I agree that Humphries is rated higher than Bargs.

Stunner
09-28-2011, 02:03 PM
You guys are dumb this game will be awesome with or without rookies. Its not 2k fault blame the David Stern and the rest. This game is way different from 2k11. Its A new game almost with the same rosters. Im buying it cuz i knw somebody with Hex Editor will unlock all the hidden players in the game meaning rookies and other free agents and upload em to 2Kshare so im not worried.

THE WALL
09-28-2011, 02:05 PM
Unbelievable. Greg Monroe got screwed.

exactly :mad:

Stunner
09-28-2011, 02:07 PM
Plus the ratings are based on position everybody calm down if you dont like the ratings change em. Once the season starts they will change.

ewmania
09-28-2011, 02:13 PM
The Oct. 4 release date of NBA2K12 can't come soon enough as we continue twiddling our thumbs wondering when this lockout will end.

In addition to just occupying our minds with some semblance of basketball, the video game will also allow the public to channel its frustration about the lockout into debating the merits of the game's player-ranking system.

Miami's LeBron James (98) and Dwyane Wade (96) were ranked just above Kobe Bryant (96). Pau Gasol's poor playoff performance curiously still put him above Dirk Nowitzki at 86-85, while trailing New York's Amare Stoudemire (88). Lastly, Andrew Bynum may rank second at center behind Orlando's Dwight Howard, but their discrepancy in ranking (4-39) and points (93-79) provides more evidence Jim Buss shouldn't cling to Bynum should Howard become available.

An NBA 2K official said via email that last season's statistics, the player's value on the team and public expectations contribute to the rankings, but he also provided some insight on what exactly what went into the Lakers' player rankings.

On James and Wade being ranked higher than Bryant

"Given that Kobe Bryant is reaching 33 years old and LeBron and Wade are in the prime of their careers right now, we had to take age into consideration. Kobe is still a great player overall, however."

On Stoudemire being ranked higher than Gasol, and Gasol finishing above Nowitzki

"Amare had a more dominant 2010-2011 season during his first year with the Knicks in comparison to Pau Gasol. Dirk's overall rating was lower than others because he still remains the weakest defender of the three -- which was something we also weighed in our formulas."

On the wide gap between Howard and Bynum

"There's not really a discrepancy -- it's more an indication of the lack of true, quality centers in the NBA right now. Specifically, there's Dwight Howard -- and then there's everyone else."

RELATED:


http://lakersblog.latimes.com/lakersblog/2011/09/nba-2k12-official-explains-lebron-james-superiority-over-kobe-bryant.html

GhostfaceDrilla
09-28-2011, 04:36 PM
why are people upset about the dirk ratings... if you look closely offense, defense & rebounds is broken up in 3 sets... dirk isn't really a good defender and that effects ratings

so what the game suppose to raise up his defense level and athleticism just so he can be in the 90's??? lol

Ironic when you have the worst defensive PF in the game on your team.

In real life, Dirk is by far better than Amare and it will never be close. At least Knicks fans can celebrate the Championship in 2k12.

ewmania
09-28-2011, 04:46 PM
Ironic when you have the worst defensive PF in the game on your team.

In real life, Dirk is by far better than Amare and it will never be close. At least Knicks fans can celebrate the Championship in 2k12.

and I never said amare was a good defender... I'm a knick fan but also a fan of basketball so i don't underrate or overrate players just because they have my favorite team or worse team jersey on

Is dirk a better scorer & finisher than amare, yes.. better rebounder? no, amare career averages more rebounds... is dirk more athletic than amare, no... amare has a better TS% rating than dirk and is more efficient than dirk also averages a career of more blocks and neither one of them can post defense

only difference is dirk has a better supporting cast that fixes all his flaws so all dirk has to do is be dirk... but thats just like every great player from the bill russel to the kobe bryant... they all need a supporting cast to cover they flaws... amare doesnt have the tyson chandler to cover his front court dirty work

I love dirk and i think he's a superstar who's got his team to the playoffs for many years... but can people please stop hating on amare its just becoming more of hate than logic

DwayneMVPwade
09-28-2011, 04:54 PM
cant take these ratings serious.

Dmagic87
09-28-2011, 05:27 PM
Anyone know if you can use the historical teams online in ranked or unranked matches?

Knicks21
09-28-2011, 06:28 PM
I know he's good. but Bosh is better on defense and rebounding, which is also holds alot of importance as a big man.

In the real world. Amare has like a 89 defensive rating in 2k11.

Knicks21
09-28-2011, 06:30 PM
Yeh the ratings are important but they arent everything. Everybody in 2k11, assuming the same in 2k12 plays the same defence, no one is better than the other no matter how good there rating is. It is all in the release, so all you people saying Dirk got robbed, play the demo, you will see how easy it is to score with him, signature move = unguardable.

Bishnoff
09-28-2011, 06:35 PM
Wow, the Suns are rated so bad. Probably accurate however.

John Walls Era
09-28-2011, 06:54 PM
the raptors got ****ed so hard :laugh: I know our team sucks *** but cmon...how the hell is Humphries > Bargnani and Barnes > Derozan?

I hate Rupaul like hell, but how the **** is Amar'e 8 ratings higher? and how is Noah better than him?

Saddler is slowly becoming a Bosh fan :D.

Yeah I don't like these at all, usually 2k has good ratings. Looks like its time to skip a year especially with the rookies not being in it (can't even use my fave Derrick Williams :pity:).

Sadds The Gr8
09-28-2011, 06:58 PM
i'm not really worried about the rookies, i'm assuming they'll just create them if the lockout ends and the season happens.

Sactown
09-28-2011, 07:02 PM
Chris Bosh got screwed lol, he's better than Amare in my opinion!

JordansBulls
09-29-2011, 09:45 PM
my other question is can you use the legends teams in playoff mode only meaning i don't have run the entire season/association.

like if i wanted to set up a playoffs with 1971 bucks, 1991 bulls, 1965 celtics, 1987 lakers, etc can i set that up in a playoff mode and the seedings?