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phlp_bj
09-26-2011, 01:11 PM
STATE WHO YOU THINK WINS THIS SERIES IN YOUR POST. JUST SAY THE TEAM'S NAME AND I WILL TALLY UP THE TOTALS. THE DEADLINE FOR THIS MATCHUP IS: TUESDAY 1pm EST


El Paso has home court advantage

El Paso Depth Chart:
PG: Rajon Rondo/Lou Williams/Jeff Teague/Brian Scalabrine
SG: Manu Ginoblli/Evan Turner/Brian Scalabrine
SF: Michael Beasley/James Posey/Brian Scalabrine
PF: Kevin Garnett/Jordan Hill/Brian Scalabrine
C: Ben Wallace/Nenad Krstic/Brian Scalabrine

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Providence Depth Chart:
PG: Mo Williams / Eric Bledsoe
SG: Dwyane Wade / Deshawn Stevenson / Xavier Henry
SF: Shane Battier / Omri Casspi
PF: Chris Bosh / Udonis Haslem
C: Brendan Haywood / Joel Przybilla / Jason Collins

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Providence Writeup:

PG: Mo Williams vs. Rajon Rondo
On paper this matchup may not seem great for us, but in reality it isnít that bad at all. Rajon Rondo may be a great defender and passer, but scoring wise he canít do much. For us, Mo Williams is the perfect PG as he can be a great third scorer with 14-15 ppg, an excellent shooter, and a pretty good facilitator. There are two things to remember when viewing this matchup. While Rondo is good at getting steals and keeping his man in front of him, Mo Williams is a shooter. He will be running all over the court and setting up for three point shots. Therefore, Rondoís defense isnít really a decisive advantage as Mo Williams isnít our primary ball handler. Another thing to note is Rondoís offense vs. Mo Williamsí defense. While Mo Williams isnít a really good defender, Rondo is one of the leagueís worst shooters from the PG position. The main problem Mo Williams has when defending is keeping his man in between him and the basket. Now, he will be able to play three or four feet off of Rondo and watch the passing lanes rather than worry about Rondo shooting a jumpshot. Overall, El Paso has the advantage in this matchup, but not by as much as it may seem.

SG: Dwyane Wade vs. Manu Ginobili
While Manu may be a talented player, Dwyane Wade is easily the best at his position and this matchup is clearly a substantial advantage for us. On the offensive end, Manu will not be able to stop Wade and with the elderly and ineffective Ben Wallace guarding the rim, he should go off and have an amazing Finals performance as he has done in the past. While Manu is good on offense player, Wade is an all-nba defender and can use his length, strength, and overall athleticism to contain Manu. One thing to also note is that while Dwyane Wade can play about 40 minutes a night for us, Manu, especially after a long playoff run, will only be able to play 33-34. This means that for at least 6-7 minutes per game (perhaps more) Wade will be going against their backup Evan Turner, which needless to say is brutally unfair for El Paso. Overall, this matchup is a big advantage for us as Wade can dominate another Finals series on both ends of the court, while Manu wonít be able to do much on defense and logs significantly less minutes.

SF: Shane Battier vs. Michael Beasley
The matchup between Battier and Beasley is a pretty unique one and honestly we feel it helps us more to a certain extent. There is no denying Beasley can score, but at what expense to his team? He is truly a chucker and extremely inefficient. He is also very inexperienced and will not be able to produce efficiently enough on a finals team as their second highest scorer. We on the other hand, have a great defender and ultimate team player in Shane Battier. Shane will make every point Beasley scores very difficult as he relies on experience, instinct, and intelligence whereas Beasley relies on talent alone. On the offensive end, Battier is a very good 3pt shooter (39%) and should be able to find openings in our offense. It is no secret Beasley is a bad defender and with double teams needed for Wade and Bosh, Battier is sure to get open looks. Overall, in a finals series, we feel that Battier is the better player to have over Beasley since he is more experienced, will help his team on both sides of the court, and do whatever is needed to pull off a victory.

PF: Christopher Bosh vs. Kevin Garnett
One thing to note in this matchup is that these are the 2012 playoffs, which means that while Bosh enters another year into his prime, KG is another year removed from his and will be 36 years old. We feel this matchup gives us an advantage as Bosh is no doubt a top 5 PF and can score in many, many ways. On the offensive end, Bosh is obviously our second scorer and can certainly produce as one. While we donít feel we need Bosh to get 25 and 10 to win, we do expect him to be averaging between 18-20 pts a night and 8-9 rebounds with his usual high efficiency and smart team play. On the defensive end, Bosh is actually a really good post defender. To be fair, he is pretty slow on rotations but in terms of guarding the block, he is no slouch. KG at this point isnít a big offensive threat and expecting more than 15 points next season would be a stretch. Another thing to note is that, like mentioned before, this is the Finals. The combination of a long playoff run and the fact KG will be 36 years old and a 17 year vet., will show as he wonít be able to play huge amount of minutes. This means that Bosh will be guarded by Jordan Hill at times, which is an even bigger advantage for us. Overall I think it is clear that while Bosh will be in his prime averaging 18-20 and 8-9, KG will be close to retirement, at the end of a long playoff, and will be asked to produce more than he can. Therefore, this matchup is a good-sized advantage for us.

C: Brendan Haywood vs. Ben Wallace
While this matchup may not be seen on the stat sheet, it will most certainly be felt on the court. At this point, Ben Wallace is an average backup center at best. He can no longer block slashing wings or matchup with bigger centers as his athleticism has faded. He is also one of the worst free throw shooters in NBA history and at the end of games, if needed, we will happily foul him and send him to the line. Now, starting for us, is Brendan Haywood. Brendan is a legit starting center in this league and youíd be hard-pressed to find 20-25 better ones. He is a strong, physical 7í0, 270 lb space eater and can grab a good amount of boards. For us he will play about 28 minutes, which is about the same he did while playing for the Wizards where he produced 8-10 pts and 8-10 rebs a night. Haywood is also a very good screener and can help Mo Williams get open for threes and pick n roll with Wade if needed. Overall, Haywoodís size and rebounding ability will be too much for the elderly Ben Wallace giving us a clear cut advantage.

Bench: Bledsoe, Stevenson, Casspi, Haslem, Pryzbilla vs. Williams, Turner, Posey, Hill, Kristic

We feel our bench is very talented. Bledsoe is a quick, young point guard who is just fine in the 8-10 minutes he will get. Deshawn Stevenson is a major threat and even started for the championship Mavs this year. Deshawn is a very good defender and can hit the 3 ball. As our 7th man, he can make a difference in this series. Casspi is a decent scorer and provides another option on offense in the very limited minutes he will receive. Then we have our 6th man, Udonis Haslem. He is completely healthy and as such is a great defender and very good rebounder. Able to play the center and power forward positions he will receive major minutes in this series and bring his signature baseline jumper. We feel he matches up well with KG if at PF and if we want more offense at the end of games, we can bring in Haslem for Haywood at C and not lose any defense as Big Ben isnít an offensive threat and undersized as well. Lastly, is Joel Pryzbilla who is a good rebounder and big body should have no problem containing Big Ben or Nenad Kristic in his very limited minutes. Our opponentís bench we feel isnít really as good. They have Lou Williams who is a good scorer, but how is he getting minutes? Rondo will probably get 36-40 a night leaving LouWill with only 8-12, which isnít enough to make a difference. Both players are also undersized and donít have the ability to play SG. Next are Evan Turner and Posey. These are two guys who wonít do much on either end and canít fill in adequately enough for their starters. Then, they have Jordan Hill who is way too young and just not good enough to produce for them. Lastly is Nenad who shouldnít be receiving the major minutes he will be. With Big Ben being old and a terrible starter, they are relying on Nenad to fill in the weakest part of their team. Overall, our bench is definitely better and gives us our final advantage.

One Sentence Conclusion: We will win this series with our experience, leadership, and team-oriented basketball.

El Paso did not send in a writeup

phlp_bj
09-26-2011, 01:12 PM
So just say the team's name in your post. Whatever vote is posted after the deadline I won't count. I will go first.

I vote Providence

Gators123
09-26-2011, 01:15 PM
El Paso

Avenged
09-26-2011, 01:16 PM
El Paso.

juno10
09-26-2011, 01:16 PM
providence

ShakeN'Bake
09-26-2011, 01:31 PM
El Paso

mightybosstone
09-26-2011, 01:31 PM
Providence. For reasons I have already stated half a dozen times.

ugafan
09-26-2011, 01:34 PM
El Paso

pebloemer
09-26-2011, 01:41 PM
I vote Providence.

unleashthebeast
09-26-2011, 01:45 PM
El Paso

Sadds The Gr8
09-26-2011, 01:48 PM
Providence. don't like El Paso's ability to score consistently.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
09-26-2011, 01:52 PM
Providence

Pat Thetic
09-26-2011, 02:01 PM
Providence. You cannot win with Michael Beasley on the floor; he will NOT pass the ball. This is coming from a Wolves fan who has watched him too many nights.

Also, KG and Ben Wallace? Can those guys run the floor?

jrice9
09-26-2011, 03:00 PM
Providence

RevisIsland
09-26-2011, 03:05 PM
El Paso in a VERY close one.

Swashcuff
09-26-2011, 03:16 PM
Vote: Providence

Slug3
09-26-2011, 03:19 PM
Providence

Rivera
09-26-2011, 03:21 PM
el paso home court matchup plays a key

marvILLous
09-26-2011, 03:23 PM
providencee

B'sCeltsPatsSox
09-26-2011, 03:24 PM
El Paso.

Jetsguy
09-26-2011, 03:30 PM
Providence but damn it is close

MJ-BULLS
09-26-2011, 03:46 PM
El Paso.

Corey
09-26-2011, 04:22 PM
El Paso again.

Corey
09-26-2011, 04:28 PM
el paso home court matchup plays a key

Agreed. If it came down to game 7, that would definitely help.

Corey
09-26-2011, 04:30 PM
As of this post, it's

Providence: 12
El Paso: 10

greg_ory_2005
09-26-2011, 04:34 PM
El Paso

Fly
09-26-2011, 04:36 PM
El Paso no doubt

NYKNYGNYY
09-26-2011, 04:39 PM
providence, wade, bosh, mo enough said

John Walls Era
09-26-2011, 04:41 PM
:laugh: Of course they had to change the voting method.

Chacarron
09-26-2011, 04:49 PM
El Paso.

KnicksorBust
09-26-2011, 05:05 PM
Providence.

boms-4
09-26-2011, 05:16 PM
El Paso

LakersIn5
09-26-2011, 05:28 PM
providence

JNA17
09-26-2011, 05:28 PM
El Paso

avrpatsfan
09-26-2011, 05:39 PM
El Paso

TrueFan420
09-26-2011, 05:45 PM
Providence... they are a better build team

LayZbone
09-26-2011, 05:48 PM
Providence

49erGiantLaker
09-26-2011, 05:49 PM
El Paso

DoMeFavors
09-26-2011, 05:49 PM
Providence

daleja424
09-26-2011, 06:06 PM
Providence. I do not trust that El Paso can score consistantly...and team Providence is laced with shooters that would make Wade impossible to stop.

Baller1
09-26-2011, 06:18 PM
El Paso.

the_jon
09-26-2011, 06:22 PM
El Paso

det32
09-26-2011, 06:32 PM
Providence

to many shooters to stop

TO to the CHI
09-26-2011, 06:32 PM
Providence

Sportfan
09-26-2011, 06:33 PM
El Paso-19
Providence-21


their shooters can be stopped. mo's % last year were terrible if he wants to go ahead and shoot 3's he can, beasley is a big dude to get in battier's face, manu has held wade to some mediocre percentages same with kg and bosh

MiamiWadeCounty
09-26-2011, 06:38 PM
El Paso-19
Providence-21


their shooters can be stopped. mo's % last year were terrible if he wants to go ahead and shoot 3's he can, beasley is a big dude to get in battier's face, manu has held wade to some mediocre percentages same with kg and bosh

Mo Williams was playing with a pile of crap last year. When playing on a good team with a superstar in Lebron James he was an all-star and shot over 40% as a major 3 pt threat. While Beasley may be a "big dude" he is still terrible on defense and has awful lateral ability and closeout speed.

Ebbs
09-26-2011, 06:40 PM
Providence.

If they were even healthy KG + Manu would be gassed. And I don't trust them to score efficiently either.

SteBO
09-26-2011, 06:47 PM
Vote: El Paso

Iggz53
09-26-2011, 06:47 PM
El Paso for me. Great versatility throughout that team.

The_Jamal
09-26-2011, 06:50 PM
Providence. Strong team defense + the best 2 offensive players on the court gives them the edge for me

Avenged
09-26-2011, 06:53 PM
Providence.

If they were even healthy KG + Manu would be gassed. And I don't trust them to score efficiently either.

Why not? They're both productive and efficient scorers.

Sadds The Gr8
09-26-2011, 06:54 PM
Why not? They're both productive and efficient scorers.

Manu yes, KG somewhat, but it's not like he'll be dropping 20+ ppg.

Green_Monster
09-26-2011, 06:54 PM
El Paso for me, I think they are the better team.

MiamiWadeCounty
09-26-2011, 07:00 PM
Providence up 2 I believe.

Ebbs
09-26-2011, 07:00 PM
Why not? They're both productive and efficient scorers.

Sorry I meant as a whole.

I firmly believe one of KG or Manu would be hurt or playign hurt. I think the team would be exhausted. This is taking place next year I feel both probably would have regressed a bit. I don't think KG is going to kill a team offensively and I don't like Beasley and Rondo to pick up the slack offensively.

Manu was playign hurt in the first round this year. He shot above 43% only once in the series and also coughed the ball up 3.4 times a game.

This is a year later 3 rounds deeper.

MiamiWadeCounty
09-26-2011, 07:04 PM
Sorry I meant as a whole.

I firmly believe one of KG or Manu would be hurt or playign hurt. I think the team would be exhausted. This is taking place next year I feel both probably would have regressed a bit. I don't think KG is going to kill a team offensively and I don't like Beasley and Rondo to pick up the slack offensively.

Manu was playign hurt in the first round this year. He shot above 43% only once in the series and also coughed the ball up 3.4 times a game.

This is a year later 3 rounds deeper.

Good points. One thing to also note is like ebbs said this is the finals. Dwyane Wade in the finals is a new beast. Already a top 3 player, he makes his game even better by becoming extremely aggressive on offense and playing tenacious defense the whole game.

Sportfan
09-26-2011, 07:06 PM
Providence up 2 I believe.
Up 1.

And the lebron argument isnt relevant so mo is still a below average shooter

Mr. Baller
09-26-2011, 07:09 PM
el paso

HoopsDrive
09-26-2011, 07:09 PM
El Paso

MiamiWadeCounty
09-26-2011, 07:15 PM
Up 1.

And the lebron argument isnt relevant so mo is still a below average shooter

I believe you were taking the guy with under 100 votes into account. I just counted again and I think it is tied now.

NYMetros
09-26-2011, 07:23 PM
Providence because of the Wade/Bosh factor. El Paso's good, but KG isn't much of a threat offensively anymore. Beasley's good offensively but not on D. Rondo can't shoot and is scared to get fouled because he doesn't want to embarrass himself at the FT line. I do love Manu though. But I think Providence is the more well-rounded, explosive, balanced, you name it, etc etc team. Good job by both teams, congrats for making it this far! So I vote for Providence.

lakersrock
09-26-2011, 07:27 PM
Providence

justinnum1
09-26-2011, 07:49 PM
Providence

Knicks21
09-26-2011, 07:52 PM
Providence.

bigA9331
09-26-2011, 08:03 PM
El Paso

Ovratd1up
09-26-2011, 08:04 PM
El Paso

Robbw241
09-26-2011, 08:27 PM
Anyone that isn't Sportsfan

theheatles
09-26-2011, 08:28 PM
Providence in 5

Thunder
09-26-2011, 08:33 PM
I vote Providence.

MiamiWadeCounty
09-26-2011, 08:34 PM
Anyone that isn't Sportsfan

So then, that is a vote for Providence?

BSF101
09-26-2011, 08:59 PM
El Paso

John Walls Era
09-26-2011, 08:59 PM
Anyone that isn't Sportsfan

+1 Providence.

John Walls Era
09-26-2011, 09:01 PM
Providence up 4.

MiamiWadeCounty
09-26-2011, 09:01 PM
Not taking into account Robbob's vote, Providence is up 3 I believe.

Sadds The Gr8
09-26-2011, 09:02 PM
Not taking into account Robbob's vote, Providence is up 3 I believe.

no he didnt.

PhillyLuver
09-26-2011, 09:05 PM
El Paso

Bruno
09-26-2011, 09:12 PM
Providence.

bovice163
09-26-2011, 09:25 PM
El paso

AP=MVP
09-26-2011, 09:29 PM
Providence, D-Wade + Bosh with Hayward and Battier

fadedmario
09-26-2011, 09:42 PM
Providence

ManRam
09-26-2011, 10:01 PM
El Paso.

I'm fairly certain about it too. I hope people don't think Battier is good anymore...

MiamiWadeCounty
09-26-2011, 10:10 PM
El Paso.

I'm fairly certain about it too. I hope people don't think Battier is good anymore...

Battier is still a very good 3pt shooter and very good defender, no doubt about it. I like how you don't mention anything about Big Ben sucking at this point, Rondo's terrible jump shooting and terrible 4th quarter shooting %, or Beasley's overall inefficiency.

Mane
09-26-2011, 10:13 PM
El Paso

DR_1
09-26-2011, 10:44 PM
El Paso at the buzzer.

John Walls Era
09-26-2011, 10:45 PM
El Paso

Don't even need explanations, just look at some of the people voting for Providence lool

Funny coming from you.

Sadds The Gr8
09-26-2011, 10:47 PM
Funny coming from you.

agreed.

levignjw
09-26-2011, 10:52 PM
Providence FTW

Avenged
09-26-2011, 10:53 PM
Ben Wallace at the buzzer.

John Walls Era
09-26-2011, 10:54 PM
agreed.

Some people should seriously count as negative votes.

MiamiWadeCounty
09-26-2011, 10:54 PM
Prov up 1 (not taking into account Robbob's vote)

Avenged
09-26-2011, 10:58 PM
Some people should seriously count as negative votes.

I think Heat fans and Celtics fans votes shouldn't count ;)

Melo15
09-26-2011, 11:04 PM
El Paso

Sportfan
09-26-2011, 11:05 PM
I think Heat fans and Celtics fans votes shouldn't count ;)
when the heat mod and tm (stebo, baller) are voting against wade/bosh, you KNOW my team is better

MiamiWadeCounty
09-26-2011, 11:06 PM
when the heat mod and tm (stebo, baller) are voting against wade/bosh, you KNOW my team is better

What's weird is that Stebo voted for Providence in the last poll and just changed this time.

LionsFan..LOL
09-26-2011, 11:08 PM
Providence

G-Force87
09-26-2011, 11:09 PM
El Paso

Baller1
09-26-2011, 11:09 PM
What's weird is that Stebo voted for Providence in the last poll and just changed this time.

He probably realized that El Paso is the better team.

NBA-GMaster
09-26-2011, 11:09 PM
El paso got BRIAN SCALABRINE(their x-factor player).. Its tough to decide but ill vote for Providence :D

PocketKings
09-26-2011, 11:10 PM
El Paso, defense wins championships.

Sadds The Gr8
09-26-2011, 11:11 PM
El Paso, defense wins championships.

not if u can't score...

John Walls Era
09-26-2011, 11:12 PM
when the heat mod and tm (stebo, baller) are voting against wade/bosh, you KNOW my team is better

Or they hate MWC. Which I know for a fact is costing about 10-20 votes.

MiamiWadeCounty
09-26-2011, 11:12 PM
He probably realized that El Paso is the better team.

Weird because in the last thread he was making multiple posts discrediting El Paso and saying how he thought my team was better.

John Walls Era
09-26-2011, 11:13 PM
El Paso, defense wins championships.

Child please.

Sportfan
09-26-2011, 11:14 PM
Weird because in the last thread he was making multiple posts discrediting El Paso and saying how he thought my team was better.
as said before, he realized my team was better.

oh crap, i forgot all the mods are teaming up against mwc :rolleyes:

MiamiWadeCounty
09-26-2011, 11:15 PM
not if u can't score...

Exactly. Our team has so much more offense and our defense is just as good. We have a better defensive center, an infinitely better defensive sf, a much better defensive sg. Their only two advantages are Rondo's defense vs. Mo Will's defense although PG defense is considered the least significant and Rondo can't score anyways. Then they have an advantage defensively with KG's vs. Bosh, but Bosh is still good in the post and will still get his on offense whereas KG won't score more than 15.

Robbw241
09-26-2011, 11:15 PM
So then, that is a vote for Providence?

yes, unless there is a third team.

John Walls Era
09-26-2011, 11:16 PM
So then, that is a vote for Providence?

WTF kind of question was this?

MiamiWadeCounty
09-26-2011, 11:16 PM
as said before, he realized my team was better.

oh crap, i forgot all the mods are teaming up against mwc :rolleyes:

Where did I saw the mods are teaming up against me? There are certain posters who dislike me and have voted against me consistently. Don't be naive, I am sure it has happened both ways though.

MiamiWadeCounty
09-26-2011, 11:17 PM
yes, unless there is a third team.
Sound's good to me. Much appreciated!

WTF kind of question was this?
:o

wjmoffatt
09-26-2011, 11:19 PM
El Palso

Avenged
09-26-2011, 11:24 PM
Unless my calculations are mistaking me.. El Paso averages about 110.8 ppg while Providence averages 106.9 ppg :shrug:

I will double check it.

MiamiBoy77
09-26-2011, 11:25 PM
Providence

Baller1
09-26-2011, 11:28 PM
Unless my calculations are mistaking me.. El Paso averages about 110.8 ppg while Providence averages 106.9 ppg :shrug:

I will double check it.

But, but, but... Providence has Dwyane Wade!

Sportfan
09-26-2011, 11:29 PM
Anyone have the latest tally?



Damn you rob, LFTA FOR LIFE




Very clutch avengend, very clutch.

Sportfan
09-26-2011, 11:34 PM
Since my co(rocketsrule) has gone MIA, I'm jut going to give my co gm spot to whoever defends me the most.

So if(when) I win,they can celebrate with me! Corey, Baller and Avenged are all making a strong push for that nomination!

StriveGreatness
09-26-2011, 11:35 PM
I vote Providence.

Avenged
09-26-2011, 11:38 PM
Obviously there's more that goes into how exactly you get your points, but El Paso does have the ability to score.. And once you factor in they have a very good 1st pass point guard, that will make everyone's job easier.

John Walls Era
09-26-2011, 11:43 PM
Since my co(rocketsrule) has gone MIA, I'm jut going to give my co gm spot to whoever defends me the most.

So if(when) I win,they can celebrate with me! Corey, Baller and Avenged are all making a strong push for that nomination!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vxiQ9JCKvE

Baller1
09-26-2011, 11:52 PM
Obviously there's more that goes into how exactly you get your points, but El Paso does have the ability to score.. And once you factor in they have a very good 1st pass point guard, that will make everyone's job easier.

And PSD's obsession with "experience" has suddenly disappeared. El Paso is filled with winners, yet everyone seems to miraculously overlook that.

SensandRaps
09-26-2011, 11:59 PM
el paso

still1ballin
09-27-2011, 12:02 AM
paso

Bos_Sports4Life
09-27-2011, 12:31 AM
Paso

Sadds The Gr8
09-27-2011, 12:43 AM
And PSD's obsession with "experience" has suddenly disappeared. El Paso is filled with winners, yet everyone seems to miraculously overlook that.

so are the real life Spurs and Lakers, how'd that work out for them this year?

Angelusô
09-27-2011, 01:02 AM
El Paso

LakersMaster24
09-27-2011, 02:33 AM
Providence.

Sportfan
09-27-2011, 06:45 AM
so are the real life Spurs and Lakers, how'd that work out for them this year?
Let's see, it got them 5 championships in the past 10 years

Tied right now

MTar786
09-27-2011, 08:43 AM
providence in 5

Lionsfanfromsac
09-27-2011, 09:41 AM
Providence

RavensFan23
09-27-2011, 10:03 AM
El Paso

SeoulBeatz
09-27-2011, 10:27 AM
El Paso, 4 players who have championships, great defense, scoring from the wings, veteran leadership, better bench.

VCaintdead17
09-27-2011, 10:40 AM
El Paso

juno10
09-27-2011, 10:50 AM
if mike beas is starting for you your team shouldn't win

Slaps
09-27-2011, 11:19 AM
El Paso

BranWingss
09-27-2011, 11:43 AM
if mike beas is starting for you your team shouldn't win

Says who?

Sadds The Gr8
09-27-2011, 12:31 PM
Let's see, it got them 5 championships in the past 10 years

Tied right now

and for the Spurs that was what, 5 years ago? isn't this about now, and not each player at their peak?

Sportfan
09-27-2011, 01:03 PM
and for the Spurs that was what, 5 years ago? isn't this about now, and not each player at their peak?
doesn't matter, i just won


victory! :win:

TomTerrific
09-27-2011, 01:13 PM
El Paso

corky831
09-27-2011, 01:31 PM
el paso

John Walls Era
09-27-2011, 01:41 PM
Tainted title, takes 2 tries to beat the GOAT (aka me). Also we may as well just allow people to ask others to vote, so many Celtics and Lions fans in here (then again MWC would hurt us in that department too).

-Kobe24-TJ19-
09-27-2011, 02:06 PM
the voting system is/has been flawed for sure

-Kobe24-TJ19-
09-27-2011, 02:07 PM
whats the score btw

Sadds The Gr8
09-27-2011, 02:16 PM
lol this thing was a huge cluster****. and the hatred for MWC cost his team :laugh:

mightybosstone
09-27-2011, 02:21 PM
Honestly, this was sort of pathetic. Neither MWC or SF should be proud of this and I really don't feel like either of you deserved to win. If you resort to stooping to that level to win an online re-draft, that's just sad.

Sadds The Gr8
09-27-2011, 02:25 PM
Honestly, this was sort of pathetic. Neither MWC or SF should be proud of this and I really don't feel like either of you deserved to win. If you resort to stooping to that level to win an online re-draft, that's just sad.

i agree this thing was so ****ed up lmao

John Walls Era
09-27-2011, 02:55 PM
0, because there were none

:laugh: 0?

phlp_bj
09-27-2011, 03:59 PM
Just did a quick run through, so I may be off, but final tally:

El Paso - 43
Providence - 41

Congratulations to SF for winning and congratulations to MWC/JWE for making it to the Finals in a hard fought redraft.

John Walls Era
09-27-2011, 04:12 PM
Its hard to win 2 finals in a row...

JNA17
09-27-2011, 04:15 PM
congrats El Paso. Now that it's out of the way. I shall make my obviously much more important announcement. After reconsidering, and getting bribed by many fans of mine, I'll shall join the next Redraft! And I will make a PSD guarantee (whatever that means, I'm sure it means something cool) that I will take glory of the title! All of you will fear my epic GM Skillz...and stuff.

That is all. I hope my announcement didn't devalue your title too much SF :D

Rivera
09-27-2011, 05:05 PM
congrats El Paso. Now that it's out of the way. I shall make my obviously much more important announcement. After reconsidering, and getting bribed by many fans of mine, I'll shall join the next Redraft! And I will make a PSD guarantee (whatever that means, I'm sure it means something cool) that I will take glory of the title! All of you will fear my epic GM Skillz...and stuff.

That is all. I hope my announcement didn't devalue your title too much SF :D



:facepalm: dont listen to this guy sporty he said the same exact thing about postermania before he got his :moon: handed to him by myself and treez

congrats sporty :clap: i knew a member of the jrue holliday fan club and the official throwers of the jrue holliday party (jrues coming to SL's house to part with myself sporty and sixerluver) was gonna win this thing!!!!

JNA17
09-27-2011, 05:08 PM
:facepalm: dont listen to this guy sporty he said the same exact thing about postermania before he got his :moon: handed to him by myself and treez

That was a ***** vote and you know it! :mad:

PocketKings
09-27-2011, 05:27 PM
:clap:

Well deserved, SF.

Good job.

Avenged
09-27-2011, 05:36 PM
Congrats to the finalists, it was a close one throughout.

I will say that when I came through in the clutch with the ppg both teams average, votes starting swinging to El Paso's favor.. Just saying. ;)

Eagles4Lyfe
09-27-2011, 05:41 PM
congrads sportfan but you should thank MWC's rep on PSD for it :laugh:.

JNA17
09-27-2011, 05:44 PM
congrads sportfan but you should thank MWC's rep on PSD for it :laugh:.

I hope MWC isn't crying in a corner with the hate he has here :(.

John Walls Era
09-27-2011, 05:45 PM
Good job Commish.

Good job SF.

Bad job MWC (Next time it might not be a good to VM people the link to this page as they probably all voted against us).

I was gonna blast this whole thing, but then I won a bunch of my sports bets today so I'm in a good mood.

Eagles4Lyfe
09-27-2011, 05:52 PM
Good job Commish.

Good job SF.

Bad job MWC (Next time it might not be a good to VM people the link to this page as they probably all voted against us).

I was gonna blast this whole thing, but then I won a bunch of my sports bets today so I'm in a good mood.

He takes things to far sometimes, if he let things just go the natural course you probably would've won.

I like the kid he knows his stuff about sports but as a GM he has some things to learn

MiamiWadeCounty
09-27-2011, 06:06 PM
Good job Commish.

Good job SF.

Bad job MWC (Next time it might not be a good to VM people the link to this page as they probably all voted against us).

I was gonna blast this whole thing, but then I won a bunch of my sports bets today so I'm in a good mood.
What? I did exactly what the rules stated and like phlp said, I was allowed to post the link on people's walls only. From the people I posted, we got at least 8 votes in our favor and maybe 1 at most (stebo) who voted against us.

He takes things to far sometimes, if he let things just go the natural course you probably would've won.

I like the kid he knows his stuff about sports but as a GM he has some things to learn
Like what? What could I have done better voting wise. I VMed tons of people the link and almost every single one voted for us. If others just voted against me because they don't like me so be it.

Sportfan
09-27-2011, 06:46 PM
Just did a quick run through, so I may be off, but final tally:

El Paso - 43
Providence - 41

Congratulations to SF for winning and congratulations to MWC/JWE for making it to the Finals in a hard fought redraft.
:worthy: thank you sir commish!

congrats El Paso. Now that it's out of the way. I shall make my obviously much more important announcement. After reconsidering, and getting bribed by many fans of mine, I'll shall join the next Redraft! And I will make a PSD guarantee (whatever that means, I'm sure it means something cool) that I will take glory of the title! All of you will fear my epic GM Skillz...and stuff.

That is all. I hope my announcement didn't devalue your title too much SF :D
maybe we will team up ;)


:facepalm: dont listen to this guy sporty he said the same exact thing about postermania before he got his :moon: handed to him by myself and treez

congrats sporty :clap: i knew a member of the jrue holliday fan club and the official throwers of the jrue holliday party (jrues coming to SL's house to part with myself sporty and sixerluver) was gonna win this thing!!!!
oh yea, **** the white house we're celebrating at jrue's place no doubt

congrads sportfan but you should thank MWC's rep on PSD for it :laugh:.
i get cred for that too, i made it go way down when i blamed him for the nfl redraft chatzy thing

Good job Commish.

Good job SF.

Bad job MWC (Next time it might not be a good to VM people the link to this page as they probably all voted against us).

I was gonna blast this whole thing, but then I won a bunch of my sports bets today so I'm in a good mood.
:laugh:

What? I did exactly what the rules stated and like phlp said, I was allowed to post the link on people's walls only. From the people I posted, we got at least 8 votes in our favor and maybe 1 at most (stebo) who voted against us.

Like what? What could I have done better voting wise. I VMed tons of people the link and almost every single one voted for us. If others just voted against me because they don't like me so be it.

wow this is great, i won the voting even though mwc purposely linked the thread to people he knew would vote for him


what could you have done? i dunno, maybe convince people that your team was better? writeup clearly didn't help.


shouts out to Rocketsrule, BranWingss, Corey, Avenged, and Baller!

Ovratd1up
09-27-2011, 07:12 PM
wow this is great, i won the voting even though mwc purposely linked the thread to people he knew would vote for him


what could you have done? i dunno, maybe convince people that your team was better? writeup clearly didn't help.

:laugh2:

Eagles4Lyfe
09-27-2011, 07:13 PM
wheres my shout out?? Apparantly i helped MWC lose somehow:S

MiamiWadeCounty
09-27-2011, 07:16 PM
wheres my shout out?? Apparantly i helped MWC lose somehow:S

Well you did it but only by accident, so it isn't really your fault to be honest. I think it was quite obvious you were being sarcastic when talking to SF but him and phlp took it literally for some reason.

Sportfan
09-27-2011, 07:30 PM
no need to blame eagles for your loss mwc :pity:

NBAfan4life
09-29-2011, 11:13 PM
el paso

-Kobe24-TJ19-
09-30-2011, 03:45 AM
el paso

:facepalm: