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MackShock
09-16-2011, 07:29 PM
http://www.csnbayarea.com/pages/video?PID=xBfao4uWfRlwP2KKI4Wljire6Y_vlObK

Video..i see Curry and Lee

MackShock
09-16-2011, 07:30 PM
LAS VEGAS -- Warriors owner Joe Lacob, co-owner Peter Guber, executive board member Jerry West and head coach Mark Jackson put on an impressive show for approximately 3,000 season-ticket holders on Wednesday night at Oracle.
They talked boldly of future success, and how the Warriors are on the verge of a breakthrough. Lacob once again talked about a "world-class organization" and Jackson reiterated the same playoff promise he delivered on the day he was hired.

But with all due respect to the four important men who held court at Oracle Arena on Wednesday, something far more impressive -- and dare we say more important -- was happening about 600 miles away in Vegas. That's where 10 Warriors players were starting to assemble for informal workouts and a get-to-know-you weekend.

The NBA lockout has taken away the team's downtown Oakland practice facility as any kind of basketball venue. So, instead, Stephen Curry, David Lee, Monta Ellis and Dorell Wright have gotten most of the team together to play some pickup basketball and to work out.

Give the Warriors' players some credit: No other NBA team has had as many players show up here than Golden State.

"You can get closer as a unit, get that communication down a little bit," forward Louis Amundson said. "Any basketball player will tell you the more you play with somebody, the more you learn their habits, the kind of passes they're going to throw, how they play the game. The more we can be out on the floor together the better."

The Warriors got together on Friday morning at 9 a.m., at the Impact basketball facility, and they played pickup basketball for approximately 90 minutes. Then, as more NBA players showed up -- like Corey Maggette, Al Harrington, Stephen Jackson, T.J. Ford, Roger Mason Jr., Jared Dudley to name a few -- the Warriors gradually gave up the court.

Ellis wound up playing almost 10 pickup games and stayed on the court longer than any of his teammates. He continued to play while they lifted weights.

"We're building a bond," forward Ekpe Udoh said. "We've got three rookies out here (Klay Thompson, Jeremy Tyler and Charles Jenkins) so everybody's got to get that chemistry going."For Thompson, Jenkins and Tyler it was their first real taste of pro basketball. They didn't get a chance to play in the Las Vegas Summer League, which was canceled by the lockout.

"This is a lot of fun," Thompson said. "Especially being out here for the whole weekend and getting to know each other. Unfortunately we missed summer league, but this makes up for it a little bit with getting to know everyone. I'm trying to make the most of each day I'm out here."

And good for the Warriors, Thompson isn't the only one.
Tune to SportsNet Central at 6, 10:30 and midnight on Comcast SportsNet Bay Area for more on this story


http://www.csnbayarea.com/09/16/11/Monta-Warriors-hold-court-in-Las-Vegas/landing.html?blockID=564312&feedID=2799

MackShock
09-16-2011, 07:37 PM
according to the article theyre bonding and getting to know each other...what place other than vegas to do that

COOLbeans
09-16-2011, 08:45 PM
good article. i wonder what the motivation is for everyone showing up like that. the article stated the warriors have the most players in attendance.. that motivation is coming from somewhere ie. the new coaches and f.o. leadership..

MackShock
09-16-2011, 09:03 PM
good article. i wonder what the motivation is for everyone showing up like that. the article stated the warriors have the most players in attendance.. that motivation is coming from somewhere ie. the new coaches and f.o. leadership..

not sure? players cant talk to coaches or f.o. im assuming theyre just resuming normal duties, as training camp would have started around this time? i mean they have to be prepared for the lockout to end.

this is the same as what chris bosh said about the heat, and how they were going to practice, regardless.

COOLbeans
09-17-2011, 12:17 AM
not sure? players cant talk to coaches or f.o. im assuming theyre just resuming normal duties, as training camp would have started around this time? i mean they have to be prepared for the lockout to end.

this is the same as what chris bosh said about the heat, and how they were going to practice, regardless.

a lot of guys across the league have already been getting in shape all summer. i think the culture has clearly changed though in this organization is all, and the players all know that the warriors want to be an elite team so they're getting to work.

asandhu23
09-17-2011, 05:06 AM
here's another link

http://www.twitvid.com/7YYOA

likemystylez
09-17-2011, 09:24 AM
cool videos, how does everyone think jeremy lin will do this season? Personally, i want to see him do well....but Im not sure he can make it in the NBA. He might be better off over seas.... but heres hoping for significant improvement this season.

MackShock
09-17-2011, 06:08 PM
cool videos, how does everyone think jeremy lin will do this season? Personally, i want to see him do well....but Im not sure he can make it in the NBA. He might be better off over seas.... but heres hoping for significant improvement this season.

he significantly improved his defense last season..i think if given more meaningful minutes, people wouldve seen it. i think he CAN make it in the NBA if given the right opportunity. but he has to become a starter..and he wont do that with the warriors as long as curry is here. i posted in the offseason thread that hell like go to a market with a huge asian population, but not a widely successful one, like the la clippers, where he will have a chance to flourish.

likemystylez
09-17-2011, 09:57 PM
he significantly improved his defense last season..i think if given more meaningful minutes, people wouldve seen it. i think he CAN make it in the NBA if given the right opportunity. but he has to become a starter..and he wont do that with the warriors as long as curry is here. i posted in the offseason thread that hell like go to a market with a huge asian population, but not a widely successful one, like the la clippers, where he will have a chance to flourish.

a starter? You clearly see something that I dont in jeremy lin. Im trying hard to see it, but he is NOT an NBA starting gaurd. Acie law was better than Lin, and Lin was a below average back up. LOL..... putting a guy in a starting line up doesnt make him 20 times the player he is....

COOLbeans
09-17-2011, 10:26 PM
Lin was an undrafted rookie. he showed some defensive capabilities. i don't think he's necessarily a starter but im not ruling out his chances of succeeding in the league in some capacity.

MackShock
09-17-2011, 10:43 PM
yep..dont count out lin because he was undrafted..im sure guys like ben wallace, andres nocioni, brad miller, or udonis haslem arent nba quality starters..

MackShock
09-17-2011, 10:45 PM
a starter? You clearly see something that I dont in jeremy lin. Im trying hard to see it, but he is NOT an NBA starting gaurd. Acie law was better than Lin, and Lin was a below average back up. LOL..... putting a guy in a starting line up doesnt make him 20 times the player he is....

all im saying is, put him in the right position and he can potentially be a starter in a few years when he's more rounded. but itll have to be a big market team with no big name point guard.

likemystylez
09-17-2011, 11:59 PM
all im saying is, put him in the right position and he can potentially be a starter in a few years when he's more rounded. but itll have to be a big market team with no big name point guard.

ummm he was in a position last season on a team that definitely needed some quality play off the bench at the guard position, especially a guard who could play quality defense (which you claim is one of lins strengths)... I know he was learning the NBA game... but thats not exactly a horrible situation to be in.

If the warriors are guarenteeing the playoffs to the fans, dont expect mark jackson to be running a farm league. if lin isnt helping the team win, its gonna be a long season.

COOLbeans
09-19-2011, 05:59 PM
You couldn't possibly have thought that Lin would produce last year did you..because I didn't. I expected a better jumpshot but I didn't expect solid aggressiveness on the deeensive end. I think he's got another year to produce something significant before the league should write him off. But drafting Klau and Charles Jenkins isn't going to help the Lin cause.

likemystylez
09-19-2011, 06:29 PM
I wasnt sure what to think of Lin last year. I guess i thought he would be about as good as he is. I personally dont see him as an amazing defensive player out there. He works really hard when hes on the floor, and I suppose that would help on defense..... but his defense isnt to the point where we could keep him on the team as a defensive specialist.

I know he had a lot of steals against the lakers as they were beating us by 30.... so it was basically garbage time..... but Im not sure you could put him in the game on D rose or anybody in a close 4th quarter game and be fine with that match up defensively.

I was told on this board that lin would be a clear upgrade over CJ watson, and I definitely did not see that to be the case at all. Not only was he not a clear upgrade.... I think he was probably a downgrade.

MackShock
09-19-2011, 08:02 PM
I remember seeing that too, and I'd probably agree with it. CJ and Lin are both undrafted, and undersized pointguards. But theres a difference..CJ is nearly a 5 year veteran vs Lin as a rookie..OF COURSE HES GOING TO BE BETTER. Whoever said he was an upgrade, was for whatever reason praising Lin with no shred of evidence to support that claim.

If I remember correctly, they were just saying that Lin was ten times the pro that CJ was because he was humbled to be in the NBA and actually wanted to be on the team. From that aspect, I'd agree with that. Would I choose Lin over CJ? Yes I would, because of my Asian bias and the clear fact that hes not a douchebag like CJ is. Is CJ the better NBA player at this point? Yes he is. Except CJ doesnt like to play defense.

MackShock
09-19-2011, 08:10 PM
ummm he was in a position last season on a team that definitely needed some quality play off the bench at the guard position, especially a guard who could play quality defense (which you claim is one of lins strengths)... I know he was learning the NBA game... but thats not exactly a horrible situation to be in.

If the warriors are guarenteeing the playoffs to the fans, dont expect mark jackson to be running a farm league. if lin isnt helping the team win, its gonna be a long season.

Well, who do we have behind Curry as an actual point guard? Position wise, Lin is Curry's backup. Minutes wise, Jackson is likely to slide Monta to point guard when Curry needs rest and will give Thompson, and to a lesser extent Jenkins, the minutes at the 2.

However, this would hinder Lin as an NBA player without giving him a chance. Jackson is a PG himself and knows what it's like. I'm hoping he can personally give Lin some pointers and put his faith in Lin as the official backup point and give him at least ten meaningful minutes a game, just to give him a fairshot to prove himself. Although I still think ten minutes isnt much. But I guess the per48 stats will tell us if he is.

Not only that, but it will make Monta think that he can play point guard, when he obviously should stay at shooting guard.

likemystylez
09-19-2011, 10:20 PM
^^^ ehh i dont really care about race of a player, Im all about the wins and losses. if I wanted to watch a bunch of asian players who dont win a lot of games...Id just go to watch any game in the fremont union highschool district. (over 80% asian student body across the district)... they wont be winning a state title any time soon, but their average sat score amongst players on the rosters is probably tops in the country.

MackShock
09-20-2011, 12:17 AM
^^^ ehh i dont really care about race of a player, Im all about the wins and losses. if I wanted to watch a bunch of asian players who dont win a lot of games...Id just go to watch any game in the fremont union highschool district. (over 80% asian student body across the district)... they wont be winning a state title any time soon, but their average sat score amongst players on the rosters is probably tops in the country.

what does this have to do with Lin being currys backup?

his race shouldnt even be discussed anymore..fact is, people only count him out because hes Asian. If he proves to be a serviceable NBA player, then what else can they say?

likemystylez
09-20-2011, 10:03 AM
what does this have to do with Lin being currys backup?

his race shouldnt even be discussed anymore..fact is, people only count him out because hes Asian. If he proves to be a serviceable NBA player, then what else can they say?

Ummm I think its the exact opposite. The strongest reason to keep him on the team is because he is asian. The strongest reason to count him out is because hes not a very good nba player.

If yao ming was in his prime 5 yrs ago- I wouldnt mind having him at all with the warriors... regardless of what race he is