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JordansBulls
09-13-2011, 03:38 PM
Who would you take as your franchise player in each instance and why?

Note: Basically when the player was an elite player but also consider health and the probability the player stays with the franchise as well.


1 -- John Stockton or Walt Frazier

2 -- Patrick Ewing or George Mikan

3 -- Carmelo Anthony or Bernard King

4 -- Chris Bosh or Pau Gasol

5 -- Deron Williams or Kevin Johnson

6 -- Kevin Mchale or Willis Reed

7 -- Mitch Richmond or Vince Carter

8 -- Allen Iverson or Pete Maravich

9 -- Shawn Kemp or Chris Webber

10 -- Tracy Mcgrady or Penny Hardaway

11 -- Alonzo Mourning or Dwight Howard

12 -- Brad Daugherty or Amare Stoudemire


Here are Two Duos

13 -- Chris Paul/Kareem or Magic Johnson/David Robinson

14 -- Clyde Drexler/Karl Malone or Dwyane Wade/Charles Barkley

haggis
09-13-2011, 03:42 PM
1 -- John Stockton or Walt Frazier

2 -- Patrick Ewing or George Mikan

3 -- Carmelo Anthony or Bernard King

4 -- Chris Bosh or Pau Gasol

5 -- Deron Williams or Kevin Johnson

6 -- Kevin Mchale or Willis Reed

7 -- Mitch Richmond or Vince Carter

8 -- Allen Iverson or Pete Maravich

9 -- Shawn Kemp or Chris Webber

10 -- Tracy Mcgrady or Penny Hardaway

11 -- Alonzo Mourning or Dwight Howard

12 -- Brad Daugherty or Amare Stoudemire


Here are Two Duos

13 -- Chris Paul/Kareem or Magic Johnson/David Robinson

14 -- Clyde Drexler/Karl Malone or Dwyane Wade/Charles Barkley

Bruno
09-13-2011, 03:49 PM
Who would you take as your franchise player in each instance and why?

Note: Basically when the player was an elite player but also consider health and the probability the player stays with the franchise as well.


1 -- John Stockton or Walt Frazier

2 -- Patrick Ewing or George Mikan

3 -- Carmelo Anthony or Bernard King

4 -- Chris Bosh or Pau Gasol

5 -- Deron Williams or Kevin Johnson

6 -- Kevin Mchale or Willis Reed

7 -- Mitch Richmond or Vince Carter

8 -- Allen Iverson or Pete Maravich

9 -- Shawn Kemp or Chris Webber

10 -- Tracy Mcgrady or Penny Hardaway

11 -- Alonzo Mourning or Dwight Howard

12 -- Brad Daugherty or Amare Stoudemire


Here are Two Duos

13 -- Chris Paul/Kareem or Magic Johnson/David Robinson

14 -- Clyde Drexler/Karl Malone or Dwyane Wade/Charles Barkley

That'd be mine.

Chacarron
09-13-2011, 03:53 PM
1 -- John Stockton or Walt Frazier

2 -- Patrick Ewing or George Mikan

3 -- Carmelo Anthony or Bernard King

4 -- Chris Bosh or Pau Gasol

5 -- Deron Williams or Kevin Johnson

6 -- Kevin Mchale or Willis Reed

7 -- Mitch Richmond or Vince Carter

8 -- Allen Iverson or Pete Maravich

9 -- Shawn Kemp or Chris Webber

10 -- Tracy Mcgrady or Penny Hardaway

11 -- Alonzo Mourning or Dwight Howard

12 -- Brad Daugherty or Amare Stoudemire


Here are Two Duos

13 -- Chris Paul/Kareem or Magic Johnson/David Robinson

14 -- Clyde Drexler/Karl Malone or Dwyane Wade/Charles Barkley

ManRam
09-13-2011, 03:55 PM
1 -- John Stockton or Walt Frazier
Because he was better...

2 -- Patrick Ewing or George Mikan
This one needs clarification. I'd take Ewing in any era over Mikan, including his own, but if we're just talking results, Mikan was far more dominant. I guess I lean Ewing.

3 -- Carmelo Anthony or Bernard King
This was close, King had a better peak, but I do think Melo is a better overall.

4 -- Chris Bosh or Pau Gasol
No need for me to explain this I feel...

5 -- Deron Williams or Kevin Johnson
I think KJ is criminally underrated.

6 -- Kevin Mchale or Willis Reed

7 -- Mitch Richmond or Vince Carter

8 -- Allen Iverson or Pete Maravich
Iverson's career reputation has taken a huge hit lately...but his game was way better than Pete's. Pete's game was before his time, but that doesn't make it better than those who came after him.

9 -- Shawn Kemp or Chris Webber
This is close because of Webber's lack of longevity and injury issues, but I do think he was better in his prime and it's not like Kemp played forever either.

10 -- Tracy Mcgrady or Penny Hardaway
Easy for me. Sucks injuries got to these guys like it did.

11 -- Alonzo Mourning or Dwight Howard
Zo played against better competition, but if I'm building a frachise I'm taking Dwight. More durable...and his upside as yet to be reached.

12 -- Brad Daugherty or Amare Stoudemire


Here are Two Duos

13 -- Chris Paul/Kareem or Magic Johnson/David Robinson

14 -- Clyde Drexler/Karl Malone or Dwyane Wade/Charles Barkley[/QUOTE]

Swashcuff
09-13-2011, 05:06 PM
1 -- John Stockton or Walt Frazier

Walt was criminally underrated and is one of the greatest two way PGs ever. Also won two titles as his team's best player and leader.

2 -- Patrick Ewing or George Mikan

Never saw Mikan but I really don't think from a skill POV he was any better than Pat.

3 -- Carmelo Anthony or Bernard King

King was a more efficient scorer than Melo and was better at his peak than anything Melo has shown thus far in his career.

4 -- Chris Bosh or Pau Gasol

Not the easiest of choices in all honesty but Pau's overall game is much better than that of Bosh's. Maybe if Bosh continues to make strides defensive he'd strengthen his case but as of right now not so much.

5 -- Deron Williams or Kevin Johnson

Higher peak than anything we've seen from Deron and is in fact one of the most underrated PGs ever. Plus he never ran his coach out of town in the manner in which D.Will did.

6 -- Kevin Mchale or Willis Reed

One of the most gifted bigs ever. Post play, defense, rebounding he had it all.

7 -- Mitch Richmond or Vince Carter

If Richmond had the kind of exposure Carter did he'd be mentioned a whole lot more among the best SGs ever. Richmond is another who is very underrated. However if I'm looking at this from a monetary standpoint Carter may be my choice.

8 -- Allen Iverson or Pete Maravich

Flat out better player. Generates more income for a franchise than most superstars in the history of the game. Allen Iverson for sure.

9 -- Shawn Kemp or Chris Webber

One of the best all round offensive bigs ever. Extremely inefficient for his position and size but in terms of ball handling and facilitating you can't talk bout the best bigs in that regard without mentioning the name Chris Webber.

10 -- Tracy Mcgrady or Penny Hardaway

Has a strong case for top 50 all time (especially if you value peak highly) even with all his injuries Penny does not.

11 -- Alonzo Mourning or Dwight Howard

Dwight's already better and is only going to get better, may not be as polished as Zo offensively but that doesn't hurt him since he's so damn efficient.

12 -- Brad Daugherty or Amare Stoudemire

Average 30 and 10 in just your 2nd playoff appearance (37 and 10 on 55% FG% against Tim Duncan). Sure I'll be taking Amar'e.

Here are Two Duos

13 -- Chris Paul/Kareem or Magic Johnson/David Robinson

As tough as this is I trust Magic more with my C than I do Chris Paul.

14 -- Clyde Drexler/Karl Malone or Dwyane Wade/Charles Barkley

Wade IMO has potential to be even greater than Clyde (he kinda is already) and Barkley is one of the greatest offensive threats in the history of the game.

Da Knicks
09-13-2011, 05:50 PM
1 -- John Stockton or Walt Frazier
This was tough but Frazier is one of my faves ever.

2 -- Patrick Ewing or George Mikan
Ewing has this one easily

3 -- Carmelo Anthony or Bernard King
Man another tough one but i say Melo ends up bringing a ship home.

4 -- Chris Bosh or Pau Gasol
Gasol easily for me, just so skilled all around

5 -- Deron Williams or Kevin Johnson
Williams for me, just so big for most point guards and very effective.

6 -- Kevin Mchale or Willis Reed
Reed for me even though Mchale had such a nice game.

7 -- Mitch Richmond or Vince Carter

8 -- Allen Iverson or Pete Maravich
Pistol Pete was just way before his time too bad he didnt have a good team until he was too old.

9 -- Shawn Kemp or Chris Webber
Kemp was one of my favorite players but if Webber doesnt get robbed in 02 he would be viewed very differently right now.

10 -- Tracy Mcgrady or Penny Hardaway
Tmac was just beast in his prime.

11 -- Alonzo Mourning or Dwight Howard

12 -- Brad Daugherty or Amare Stoudemire
Stat shows up in the big games

Here are Two Duos

13 -- Chris Paul/Kareem or Magic Johnson/David Robinson

14 -- Clyde Drexler/Karl Malone or Dwyane Wade/Charles Barkley[/QUOTE]

ChiSox219
09-13-2011, 05:51 PM
1 -- John Stockton or Walt Frazier

2 -- Patrick Ewing or George Mikan


4 -- Chris Bosh or Pau Gasol

5 -- Deron Williams or Kevin Johnson

6 -- Kevin Mchale or Willis Reed

7 -- Mitch Richmond or Vince Carter

8 -- Allen Iverson or Pete Maravich

9 -- Shawn Kemp or Chris Webber

10 -- Tracy Mcgrady or Penny Hardaway

11 -- Alonzo Mourning or Dwight Howard

12 -- Brad Daugherty or Amare Stoudemire


Here are Two Duos

13 -- Chris Paul/Kareem or Magic Johnson/David Robinson

NYKalltheway
09-13-2011, 06:26 PM
1 -- John Stockton or Walt Frazier (call me homer)

2 -- Patrick Ewing or George Mikan (call me homer vol.2)

3 -- Carmelo Anthony or Bernard King (homer vol.3?? :D )

4 -- Chris Bosh or Pau Gasol (much better post game, and slightly better defender)

5 -- Deron Williams or Kevin Johnson (just how it is)

6 -- Kevin Mchale or Willis Reed (not that much of a homer ;p)

7 -- Mitch Richmond or Vince Carter (peak Carter, career Richmond)

8 -- Allen Iverson or Pete Maravich (I'd prefer a good scorer that helped a bit on the defensive end)

9 -- Shawn Kemp or Chris Webber (I'm a fan of pre-fat Kemp, but Webber was a greater player)

10 -- Tracy Mcgrady or Penny Hardaway (personal preference)

11 -- Alonzo Mourning or Dwight Howard (more polished game)

12 -- Brad Daugherty or Amare Stoudemire (I will always know Daugherty as the guy who was picked in the draft ahead of one who was supposed to give the NBA the next best thing)


Here are Two Duos

13 -- Chris Paul/Kareem or Magic Johnson/David Robinson (Magic makes everyone better, D Rob was an elite center, 50-50 here)

14 -- Clyde Drexler/Karl Malone or Dwyane Wade/Charles Barkley (quite easily, Barkley does not play D and Drexler>Wade in all aspects)

GREATNESS ONE
09-13-2011, 06:41 PM
Who would you take as your franchise player in each instance and why?

Note: Basically when the player was an elite player but also consider health and the probability the player stays with the franchise as well.


1 -- John Stockton or Walt Frazier

2 -- atPrick Ewing or George Mikan

3 -- Carmelo Anthony or Bernard King

4 -- Chris Bosh or Pau Gasol

5 -- Deron Wmillias or Kevin Johnson

6 -- Kevin Mchale or Willis Reed

7 -- Mitch Richmond or Vince Carter

8 -- Allen Iverson or Pete Maravich

9 -- Shawn Kemp or Chris Webber

10 -- Tracy Mcgrady or Penny Hardaway

11 -- Alonzo Mourning or Dwight Howard

12 -- Brad Daugherty or Amare Stoudemire


Here are Two Duos

13 -- Chris Paul/Kareem or Magic Johnson/David Robinson

14 -- Clyde Drexler/Karl Malone or Dwyane Wade/Charles Barkley

here's mine. Good thread

ManningToTyree
09-13-2011, 06:58 PM
Who would you take as your franchise player in each instance and why?

Note: Basically when the player was an elite player but also consider health and the probability the player stays with the franchise as well.


1 -- John Stockton or Walt Frazier- Winner. Stockton was always overrated to me.

2 -- Patrick Ewing or George Mikan- I don't know enough about Mikan b ut I doubt he could play in todays NBA.

3 -- Carmelo Anthony or Bernard King- King is far superior player, but his health prevented him from being an alltime great

4 -- Chris Bosh or Pau Gasol- More complete player and can play C if desperate

5 -- Deron Williams or Kevin Johnson

6 -- Kevin Mchale or Willis Reed- Health and more titles

7 -- Mitch Richmond or Vince Carter- Neither should be a cornerstone, but Carter always wore out his welcome

8 -- Allen Iverson or Pete Maravich- Better player

9 -- Shawn Kemp or Chris Webber- Better passer/ work ethic

10 -- Tracy Mcgrady or Penny Hardaway- Very few primes compare to TMAC

11 -- Alonzo Mourning or Dwight Howard- He may already be a better all time Center than Zo

12 -- Brad Daugherty or Amare Stoudemire- IDK who Brad Daugherty is


Here are Two Duos

13 -- Chris Paul/Kareem or Magic Johnson/David Robinson- Both lol. If I had to choose CP3/Kareem

14 -- Clyde Drexler/Karl Malone or Dwyane Wade/Charles Barkley The Cell phone commercial duo

where do you come up with this ****?