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Dade County
08-05-2011, 07:30 PM
What if both sides can't reach an agreement, and we've already lost the 2011-2012 season. Owners of NBA Franchises are told, you can keep any 2 players on your roster, the rest are in limbo.

I would like PSD to pick their 2 players on their favorite NBA team, and come up with a way on how the league should go about all the other players that don't have a team.


I can't really say they should have a draft, because how would you determine who gets to pick first.
"Example"

Lets say the HEAT choses Wade & LBJ (no brainer) to stay on the HEAT's roster, what if they win the luck of the draw and get to pick 1st; everybody goes crazy! ....

And in this scenario, you really can't go by worst records (their are no more full rosters, and a season was missed)

If the League decides to have a massive free for all, then you will see the definition of collusion... stars teaming up... GM's sacrificing goats... Owners giving percentages of their team to players, just so they can sign on the dotted line... etc


" As you can tell, I don't see this NBA lock out ending soon" Help please! (lol)

rockets-fan
08-05-2011, 08:23 PM
Rockets-

Kyle Lowry: great defensive pg with good court vision and is young, hes improving and i see him being the face of the rockets really soon.

Kevin Martin: besides being my favorite rocket, hes a great scorer, caan get to the free throw line with ease and opens good shots for other players, hes a great 3rd option on a contender imo, btw not saying the rockets are contending just saying hed be great on a contending team lol

i think if that scenario of keeping two players were to happen, they should go by those 2 players win shares. idk some statistic or something that i know is out there somewhere showing which duo is better. then from that get have the worst pick first, next worst pick second, and so on... idk thats the only fair way i see of doing it...

MelkyNYY
08-05-2011, 08:46 PM
I'd keep D-Will and Brook Lopez (for the trade value)

Gators123
08-05-2011, 08:51 PM
Greg Monroe
Brandon Knight

albertc86
08-05-2011, 09:01 PM
Not happening.

However, I think the idea of contraction is looking better than ever. The league is too diluted and that's why sales are down. It's unfortunate but maybe a couple cities need to lose their team because they're not turning much of a profit nor is it benefitting the league. They should disperse the talent and a decent chunk of players will probably be forced out of the league too... I think we can agree that there's some players who have no business in the NBA and the NBA is a business at the end of the day.

PhillyFinezt
08-05-2011, 09:21 PM
Jrue Holiday
Thaddeus Young (or Evan Turner, it would be very close)

faridk89
08-05-2011, 09:28 PM
Raps

- DeMar DeRozan
- Ed Davis/Bargnani depending on the rest of the team

*Silver&Black*
08-05-2011, 09:30 PM
Hawks:

Josh Smith
Al Horford

Biggest trade value of the team are these 2, also meaning Joe Johnson goes into the FA pool. Hopefully we get an all-star PG.

NYman15
08-05-2011, 09:44 PM
Easy for NY,
Melo
Amare

Hostetler
08-05-2011, 09:52 PM
Easy for NY,
Melo
Amare

this

Dade County
08-05-2011, 09:52 PM
Rockets-

i think if that scenario of keeping two players were to happen, they should go by those 2 players win shares. idk some statistic or something that i know is out there somewhere showing which duo is better. then from that get have the worst pick first, next worst pick second, and so on... idk thats the only fair way i see of doing it...

Thank you for giving input on how to pickup the other free agents...

This is one idea, are their others?

nygiants242
08-05-2011, 09:57 PM
Philadelphia:

Turner and Holiday

kmo429
08-05-2011, 09:58 PM
Carmelo, Amare.. Lol

Mishmin
08-05-2011, 10:08 PM
Rondo
KG

droalex
08-05-2011, 10:15 PM
Rose/Scal
Rose/Noah
Rose/Deng

Melo4Mvp
08-05-2011, 10:37 PM
Gallo
Lawson

More-Than-Most
08-05-2011, 10:51 PM
Philly---Turner and Holiday

RevisIsland
08-05-2011, 10:55 PM
Stat and Melo

tev_dodd
08-05-2011, 10:56 PM
Love/Beasley or Love/Williams probably the latter

DR_1
08-05-2011, 10:56 PM
Bulls - Rose (duh) and Noah (Deng/Boozer are close, but Noah is just so versatile defensively)

llemon
08-05-2011, 11:04 PM
This is a nice game to play, but a truly ridiculous concept.

six
08-05-2011, 11:10 PM
Rose + Deng

Sportfan
08-05-2011, 11:11 PM
Rondo Jeff Green

Knicks21
08-05-2011, 11:21 PM
Rondo
KG

Interesting you should say that, If i were Celtics i would go for Rondo and Probably Green. Just because of the Age.

PurpleJesus
08-05-2011, 11:54 PM
timberwolves

only obvious choice is Love, then after that, its a toss up between Rubio and Derek Williams, with Beasley getting some attention too.

sventhedog
08-05-2011, 11:59 PM
spurs - ask either manu or td to retire and pick parker.

topdog
08-05-2011, 11:59 PM
Of course it's a HEAT fan coming up with a "keep 2 players" scenario :laugh2:

Wolves:
Rubio
Love

No way the NBA does a sort of re-draft. Re-structuring contracts: yes Total annihilation of teams: no

For the sake of the thread: contracts are re-structured across the board by $$$ and years. NBA uses their draft lottery machine thingy with equal odds for all teams and kicks out a draft order. Teams select in reversing order each round (i.e. first in 1st round and last in 2nd round).

The Smurf
08-06-2011, 12:07 AM
I am going with Rose and Jimmy Butler. Every Bull, aside from Rose, is overpaid. I want Rose and a 2nd round contract and lets rebuild.

asandhu23
08-06-2011, 12:19 AM
Warriors. Stephen Curry and Monta Ellis. Dynamic duo.

Hellcrooner
08-06-2011, 12:26 AM
kobe and pau.

Kyben36
08-06-2011, 01:04 AM
Bulls keep Rose ( for sure ) and Probably Deng ( maybe Noah )

meloman1592
08-06-2011, 01:07 AM
I'll have to go with Jared Jeffries and Anthony Carter...would be hard replacing those guys.

Giraffes Rule
08-06-2011, 01:55 AM
Manu and Duncan. Manu is the best player on the Spurs right now, and Duncan has meant too much to the Spurs to take someone else. Parker can be replaced, and the rest of the roster is pretty easily replaced as well.

'course it'll be a ***** trying to find another scorer as good as Neal for how much he makes.

Raps18-19 Champ
08-06-2011, 02:30 AM
Derozan and Valencuinas.

marj987
08-06-2011, 02:55 AM
Dirk and Roddy
Brook and D-Will.

marj987
08-06-2011, 02:56 AM
I'll have to go with Jared Jeffries and Anthony Carter...would be hard replacing those guys.

This.

marj987
08-06-2011, 02:58 AM
The Bulls have no choice but to keep Rose, If I see a post without Rose I might :facepalm: or ultimately http://cache.blippitt.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/extreme-spelling-fail.jpg them.

alencp3
08-06-2011, 06:17 AM
Clippers - Gordon and Blake

alencp3
08-06-2011, 06:17 AM
Derozan and Valencuinas.

Ed Davis will be better than both of them

JordansBulls
08-06-2011, 08:56 AM
Rose and probably Noah

Brooklyn Mets
08-06-2011, 09:23 AM
Stat and Melo

imagesrdecievin
08-06-2011, 09:55 AM
Deron and Lopez

The draft order would be determined by a televised NBA2K co op tourney. Winner of the tourney gets the #1 pick serpentine style.

You could even use NBA Jams where everyone would have to play as themselves :)

THE WALL
08-06-2011, 11:27 AM
Greg Monroe
Brandon Knight

x2

knicks_champ
08-06-2011, 11:49 AM
Melo
Amare

Really like in real life the team is those two. lol

MackSnackWrap
08-06-2011, 12:28 PM
Toronto- Demar Derozan and Ed Davis

Miami- Although Chris Bosh is my favourite player ima have to say Dwayne Wade and LBJ

Baller1
08-06-2011, 12:31 PM
Durant and Westbrook/Harden.

Tough decision.

carnage101
08-06-2011, 12:50 PM
kobe gasoft

sixer04fan
08-06-2011, 01:07 PM
Easy for Philly: Turner and Holliday

3mikee_
08-06-2011, 01:08 PM
Demar & Jonas lol..maybe Ed Davis, but the dude hasn't shown me anything yet. Then again, neither has Jonas lol. I don't know.

king4day
08-06-2011, 01:13 PM
Suns:

Dudley & Gortat

Ray_R
08-06-2011, 01:13 PM
Rose Deng Easy.

TO Rapz
08-06-2011, 01:13 PM
Demar or Davis, or Demar and Jonas V. I d keep Jonas V and Demar though, I think Jonas is gona be a very good player.

RaiderLakersA's
08-06-2011, 01:16 PM
What if both sides can't reach an agreement, and we've already lost the 2011-2012 season. Owners of NBA Franchises are told, you can keep any 2 players on your roster, the rest are in limbo.

I would like PSD to pick their 2 players on their favorite NBA team, and come up with a way on how the league should go about all the other players that don't have a team.


I can't really say they should have a draft, because how would you determine who gets to pick first.
"Example"

Lets say the HEAT choses Wade & LBJ (no brainer) to stay on the HEAT's roster, what if they win the luck of the draw and get to pick 1st; everybody goes crazy! ....

And in this scenario, you really can't go by worst records (their are no more full rosters, and a season was missed)

If the League decides to have a massive free for all, then you will see the definition of collusion... stars teaming up... GM's sacrificing goats... Owners giving percentages of their team to players, just so they can sign on the dotted line... etc


" As you can tell, I don't see this NBA lock out ending soon" Help please! (lol)

Your scenario, but with a twist that would help with competitive balance somewhat:

Teams get to keep two players. However, the second player chosen cannot have been selected as an All Star last season, or participated as an All Star in two consecutive seasons at any time previous to last season.

That ought to dump more talent into the pool for all teams to select. And yes, that would mean that Wade and Bron Bron would not be a tandem from the start. Ditto with Melo and Amare or Kobe and Pau, etc. The only way that they'd become teammates is luck of the draw.

And oh yeah, there would be a draft with draft positions being determined randomly. Draft positions cannot be traded.

Teams would select 1 person as the draft magister to make the selections. All draft magisters would be completely sequestered without outside contact of any kind for a month prior to the draft to ensure that no side deals or off the record bartering takes place. Draft magisters would themselves be further isolated in secured booths for the duration of the draft.

A localized limited-access view only intranet connection would be available two hours before the draft for the magisters to review player status and availability. No other information would be provided. After the two hours had elapsed, the intranet connection would be turned off until it was a team's turn to draft. The magister would view the available players and make a selection in a timely fashion.

The magister would not know the other team's selections until at the end of the draft. The magister would not know the draft order. In fact, the draft order would be reshuffled for each round. The magister would enter the draft blind with a mind to assemble the best team, given the players that are available with his/her pick.

Mauersota
08-06-2011, 01:35 PM
Wolves-
Love
Rubio

Outside shot at Williams, anyone that says Beasley is crazy.

PrettyBoyJ
08-06-2011, 01:41 PM
Easy for NY,
Melo
Amare

yup! no brainer lol

VinceCarter
08-06-2011, 05:25 PM
Nets is easy:

Deron Williams and Brook Lopez.

Dade County
08-06-2011, 05:26 PM
Your scenario, but with a twist that would help with competitive balance somewhat:

Teams get to keep two players. However, the second player chosen cannot have been selected as an All Star last season, or participated as an All Star in two consecutive seasons at any time previous to last season.

That ought to dump more talent into the pool for all teams to select. And yes, that would mean that Wade and Bron Bron would not be a tandem from the start. Ditto with Melo and Amare or Kobe and Pau, etc. The only way that they'd become teammates is luck of the draw.

And oh yeah, there would be a draft with draft positions being determined randomly. Draft positions cannot be traded.

Teams would select 1 person as the draft magister to make the selections. All draft magisters would be completely sequestered without outside contact of any kind for a month prior to the draft to ensure that no side deals or off the record bartering takes place. Draft magisters would themselves be further isolated in secured booths for the duration of the draft.

A localized limited-access view only intranet connection would be available two hours before the draft for the magisters to review player status and availability. No other information would be provided. After the two hours had elapsed, the intranet connection would be turned off until it was a team's turn to draft. The magister would view the available players and make a selection in a timely fashion.

The magister would not know the other team's selections until at the end of the draft. The magister would not know the draft order. In fact, the draft order would be reshuffled for each round. The magister would enter the draft blind with a mind to assemble the best team, given the players that are available with his/her pick.

Damn! ... This is not espionage, (lol).

You put a mighty twist to it... I think it's a very cool concept but you might of went a little to far.

If I read everything correctly, what if by the luck of the draw Bulls get the 1st pick; Of course they would pick LBJ or Stat, and how far is that to the HEAT/Knick fans or the league ?

I think what everyone wants is, for the league to have 1 elite player on each team ( "or" no more then 2 all stars on the same team).

So basically take away... (these players from their teams)

LBJ, Bosh
Stat
Weatbrook
Pau Gosal
2 out of the boston big 3 (because of rondo)
Timmy or manu

and 1 to 2 players from memphis ( that team is good ) and take away one star player from the bulls (Noah or boozer).


And spread above players through out he league, to teams that need them.

That would make fans happy, but what about the players:confused:

Hawkeye15
08-06-2011, 05:31 PM
Love/Rubio

The rest of the rosters are unrestricted free agents. Each team has a hard cap of $55 million. No team can sign more than 2 players that have been in an all star game in the last 3 years. Each team must sign one rookie.

Chill_Will_24
08-06-2011, 05:52 PM
This is way too easy!!!! Travis Outlaw and Stephen Graham!

GhostfaceDrilla
08-06-2011, 06:02 PM
Mavs

1. Dirk Nowitzki: Superstar, best shooter/clutch in the game.

2. Tyson Chandler: Every team has to have an anchor down low and Tyson is a defensive anchor to build a championship team around.

nimzboy
08-06-2011, 10:10 PM
Heat: Lbj Wade
Thunder: Kd Westbrook
Clippers: Griffin Gordon

gbrl
08-07-2011, 01:49 AM
probably george and hibbert

LA_Raiders
08-07-2011, 01:58 AM
Kobe/Gasol = winniest combo...

Chill_Will_24
08-07-2011, 02:02 AM
Kobe/Gasol = whinniest combo...

fixed

Ebbs
08-07-2011, 02:20 AM
Dallas:

Dirk, and Chandler.

I would think it should be a random setting where players are told they can only sign with one fo three teams. But the three teams each player recieves are random.

However I would seperate players into 5 tiers. (superstars, stars, starters, role players, bench fodder.)

Each team would have to fill so many spots.

Obviously this is rediculous but I think it be fair.

PacersForLife
08-07-2011, 02:21 AM
I'll go with Danny Granger and Paul George, just because Granger probably has the most trade value and George probably has the brightest future.

Astronaut
08-07-2011, 02:21 AM
1) Kyrie Irving
2) Tristian Thompson or Christian Eyenga.

SeoulBeatz
08-07-2011, 02:47 AM
76ers:

It's obviously Jrue Holiday and Evan Turner.

Backcourt of the future son!

Bishnoff
08-07-2011, 03:22 AM
Suns: Gortat and Dudley.

GunFactor187
08-07-2011, 03:32 AM
Greg Monroe
Brandon Knight

This...

ewmania
08-07-2011, 04:31 AM
stat and melo

Dade County
08-07-2011, 03:01 PM
Not happening.

However, I think the idea of contraction is looking better than ever. The league is too diluted and that's why sales are down. It's unfortunate but maybe a couple cities need to lose their team because they're not turning much of a profit nor is it benefitting the league. They should disperse the talent and a decent chunk of players will probably be forced out of the league too... I think we can agree that there's some players who have no business in the NBA and the NBA is a business at the end of the day.


I think as it gets near the season, the owners should hit the players committee with this... The league will payoff the Owners of the 4 teams that have been contracted (paying the majority of that bill in yearly payments)

But 1st, make the voting by the owners big news "meaning" (highly publicize)
to scare the **** out of the players committee and players.

If the players still don't want to join the side of the owners ( I am not picking sides, just throwing out an idea) then this, should free up money and players.

KeepMonta#8
08-07-2011, 03:11 PM
Mavs

1. Dirk Nowitzki: Superstar, best shooter/clutch in the game.

2. Tyson Chandler: Every team has to have an anchor down low and Tyson is a defensive anchor to build a championship team around.

Did ray allen die????

_KB24_
08-07-2011, 08:58 PM
Kobe and Bynum

theheatles
08-07-2011, 09:59 PM
if the heat get 1st pick they are taking bosh because he's the best 3rd option in the league

mdm692
08-07-2011, 10:21 PM
Suns

nash/gortat

thedfactor
08-07-2011, 10:27 PM
Dirk and Chandler

Snowman23
08-07-2011, 10:41 PM
Wade and Bron

avrpatsfan
08-07-2011, 10:52 PM
Boston:
Rondo and Pierce

VCaintdead17
08-07-2011, 11:14 PM
It'd be hard for the Pacers, but probably

Collison/George

NYGFAN
08-07-2011, 11:34 PM
Tyreke Evans and Demarcus Cousins

BlondeBomber41
08-08-2011, 07:57 AM
Dirk Nowitzki and Roddy Beaubois. Tyson Chandler is a free agent anyways, so you can't really pick him and Roddy is our future.

ne3xchamps
08-08-2011, 08:33 AM
rondo and green, no question in my mind.

Spencesc11
08-08-2011, 09:07 AM
This is what the nba needs to do.

1) Allow teams to cut a player like (Michael Redd) and have their salary not count against the cap.
2) Make a hard cap that team's can't go over, plus a minimum of what they have the spend like the NFL. I would say 50 million for the low and 60 million for the high. (Bird rights or not you can't go over the cap!!!)
3) Get the guarantees out of contracts and have buyout clauses for owners.
4) And last but not least create a pay structure.

5 levels of contracts

Level 1 (Superstar) - No more than 5 years, 15 million per season
Level 2 (All Star caliber) - No more than 5 years, 10 million per season
Level 3 (Solid but not star) - No more than 3 years, 5 million per season
Level 4 (Solid role player) - No more than 3 years, 3 million per season
Level 5 (veteran minimum) - No more than 3 years, 1 million per season

Rookies (picks 1-10) - 3 millon per/3 year contract
Rookies (picks 11-32) - 2 million per/3 year contract

2nd round picks - Level 5 vet minimum

This would allow you to build a team with
1 superstars (15 million) Kobe Bryant
2 level 2 (20 million) Pau Gasol, Andrew Bynum
2 level 3 (10 million) Lamar Odom, Ron Artest
3 level 4 (9 million) Shannon Brown, Matt Barnes, Derek Fisher
5 level 5 (5 millon) Steve Blake, Luke Walton, Joe Smith, Theo Ratliff,
and Devin Ebanks
Total spent - 59 million

Owners = happy, Players = not as happy but their not exactly starving, and the league makes money!!!

NBA-GMaster
08-09-2011, 04:58 AM
Hmm..
Iggy-Holiday
Walker-Thomas
Jennings-Bogut
Rose-Noah
Irving-Thompson
Garnett-Rondo
Randolph-Gasol
Horford-Smith
James-Wade
Paul-Okafor
Harris-Favors
Evans-Cousins
Anthony-Stoudemire
Bryant-Gasol
Howard-Nelson
Nowitzki-Terry
Williams-Lopez
Gallinari-Lawson
Granger-Hibbert
Knight-Monroe
DeRozan-Davis
Martin-Lowry
Duncan-Ginobili
Nash-Gortat
Durant-Westbrook
Love-Rubio
Wallace-Aldridge
Ellis-Curry
Wall-McGee

8kobe24
08-09-2011, 11:44 AM
This is what the nba needs to do.

1) Allow teams to cut a player like (Michael Redd) and have their salary not count against the cap.
2) Make a hard cap that team's can't go over, plus a minimum of what they have the spend like the NFL. I would say 50 million for the low and 60 million for the high. (Bird rights or not you can't go over the cap!!!)
3) Get the guarantees out of contracts and have buyout clauses for owners.
4) And last but not least create a pay structure.

5 levels of contracts

Level 1 (Superstar) - No more than 5 years, 15 million per season
Level 2 (All Star caliber) - No more than 5 years, 10 million per season
Level 3 (Solid but not star) - No more than 3 years, 5 million per season
Level 4 (Solid role player) - No more than 3 years, 3 million per season
Level 5 (veteran minimum) - No more than 3 years, 1 million per season

Rookies (picks 1-10) - 3 millon per/3 year contract
Rookies (picks 11-32) - 2 million per/3 year contract

2nd round picks - Level 5 vet minimum

This would allow you to build a team with
1 superstars (15 million) Kobe Bryant
2 level 2 (20 million) Pau Gasol, Andrew Bynum
2 level 3 (10 million) Lamar Odom, Ron Artest
3 level 4 (9 million) Shannon Brown, Matt Barnes, Derek Fisher
5 level 5 (5 millon) Steve Blake, Luke Walton, Joe Smith, Theo Ratliff,
and Devin Ebanks
Total spent - 59 million

Owners = happy, Players = not as happy but their not exactly starving, and the league makes money!!!

This is a good idea, but I'm just wondering what the league would use as criteria to grade a player level 1-5.

mttwlsn16
08-09-2011, 12:05 PM
blake griffin
eric gordon

nbajordan
08-09-2011, 09:29 PM
Hawks:

Josh Smith
Al Horford
nba-jordan (http://www.nba-jordan.com/)
Biggest trade value of the team are these 2, also meaning Joe Johnson goes into the FA pool. Hopefully we get an all-star PG.

LakersMaster24
08-09-2011, 09:47 PM
Kobe and Pau. Pretty easy :D

Underrated Wade
08-09-2011, 10:02 PM
players should just pretend they will never play again. then the nba wont make money. or the players can protest like egypt and take stern down. but then maybe stern will make the owners fire sperm at the players

Lakers + Giants
08-09-2011, 10:21 PM
Kobe and Gasol. Easily.

Bravo95
08-09-2011, 10:36 PM
Hawks: Teague and Horford.

Hard cap, contract two teams (players allowed to sign with any team they want), realignment to four 7-team divisions.