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juanguzman
07-27-2011, 01:40 AM
A guy that has broken several White Sox deals on the White Sox mlb.com forum over the last couple years, tweeted tonight:

k0na

#WhiteSox Jackson and Teahen going to Toronto for frasor and a minor leaguer...de aza coming up from minors.

Assume we flip Jackson in another deal or collect the compensation picks?

PabloEscobar
07-27-2011, 01:40 AM
This is being talked about on the Jays site.
Apparently the person posting about it has a track record of calling Jays trades.

I actually kind of like Jackson. Would be a solid #4 but I could also see us peddling him to some team looking for pitching.

nithanyo
07-27-2011, 01:49 AM
Edwin Jackson would be an awesome #3 behind Romero and morrow. If it's for frasor I would do it in a second. Teahen is nix 2.0 IMO. But this deal sounds Good but can be a win for the jays depending on which minor leaguer and if we can lock up jackson

Farsight
07-27-2011, 01:51 AM
Im not an Edwin Jackson fan, but he is having his best season to date. If the jays do acquire him, i hope he is packaged for someone else

PabloEscobar
07-27-2011, 01:51 AM
I wouldnt rule out Jackson being aquired to then be flipped.
Just last week the rumour was Jackson/Thornton to the Cards for Colby Rasmus. I know thats pure speculation but does seem somewhat coincedental.

Halladay
07-27-2011, 02:02 AM
I do that deal in a heartbeat.

Pride
07-27-2011, 02:04 AM
Depends on who that minor leaguer is. We're taking on Teahen's contract and losing a potential sandwich pick. Jackson is a solid 4, but he isn't the long term solution. As others have said, this could just be "the first domino" to fall. Again, it comes back to who that prospect is, and he shouldn't be that good.

Jays101
07-27-2011, 02:07 AM
great trade if true, and not a big name prospect going the other way.. but question is does this serve as a precursor to a colby rasmus deal? do you do edwin jackson and drabek for rasmus?

Pride
07-27-2011, 02:09 AM
great trade if true, and not a big name prospect going the other way.. but question is does this serve as a precursor to a colby rasmus deal? do you do edwin jackson and drabek for rasmus?

Trading Drabek now would be selling incredibly low on him. He's struggling right now and his value isn't near its highest.

Jays101
07-27-2011, 02:10 AM
yea i would agree, but i dont think his value is low at all. Although it isnt as high as it would be at the beginning of the year, stl would still want a high-end "prospect" to go along with jackson to get a player of rasmus' caliber

Muttman73
07-27-2011, 08:42 AM
Jackson runs hot and cold, TeaBag mostly cold...flip them both for best results...if this happens

2009mvp
07-27-2011, 08:49 AM
Um, yes please. Hinges on who the minor leaguer is (doubt it would be anyone completely insignificant) but if you can flip a reliever for a solid starter it's an absolute no brainer. Hope this is true.

North Yorker
07-27-2011, 08:52 AM
Is anyone else thinking that AA is really just targeting Rasmus?

The Cards apparently want Bell... BAM rumour that we're interested in Bell.

Cards/Sox deal of Rasmus for EJax,Thornton+... BAM we go after Jackson.

It looks like we are just trying to get pieces for a STL trade

Billyen
07-27-2011, 09:09 AM
Is anyone else thinking that AA is really just targeting Rasmus?



Yes...Frasor for Rasmus. 8-)

idrinkpepsi
07-27-2011, 10:23 AM
Rosenthal reports this deal is in serious talks

https://twitter.com/#!/Ken_Rosenthal/statuses/96222026397782017

North Yorker
07-27-2011, 10:27 AM
Rosenthal reports this deal is in serious talks

https://twitter.com/#!/Ken_Rosenthal/statuses/96222026397782017

Nice! Open the floodgates!

North Yorker
07-27-2011, 10:28 AM
Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal
Sources tell @jonmorosi that #WhiteSox-#BlueJays deal is close. Jackson, Teahen to TOR. Frasor-plus to CWS. Money could be in deal. #MLB
1 minute ago

Dol-Fan
07-27-2011, 10:31 AM
Hope this goes through! I really don't want Teahen, and hope he does not see the field, but Jackson makes me happy.

idrinkpepsi
07-27-2011, 10:31 AM
I honestly think AA is flipping Edwin Jackson, doesn't make sense to trade type B's and take on a bad contract. Don't get me wrong I think Edwin can do good but I don't really see why we need him as a rebuilding team.

North Yorker
07-27-2011, 10:34 AM
I honestly think AA is flipping Edwin Jackson, doesn't make sense to trade type B's and take on a bad contract. Don't get me wrong I think Edwin can do good but I don't really see why we need him as a rebuilding team.

Not only that but Jackson is just barely a Type B.

Edwin Jackson Chicago B 56.168831168
Freddy Garcia New York None 55.51948051

I think we flip him or try to re-sign him to a reasonable deal.

bomber0104
07-27-2011, 10:40 AM
I like the deal even if we keep Jackson... it all depends on who the prospect is

but yeah I do believe Jackson would be included in another deal

KaiserSose
07-27-2011, 10:55 AM
depending on the prospect getting a SP of Edwin's quality for a RP (even though I life Frasor) and a spec is a pretty decent return. I think it's likely he is flipped but I wouldn't be shocked to see us keep him.

lorneg34
07-27-2011, 11:00 AM
I like this deal honestly to just drop teahan or get rid of him for ANYTHING and keep Jackson....I still don't get the rasmus thing. Do we really need him honestly? We have a logjam in the OF already with Bautista/Davis/snider/Thames/ and guys in AAA and AA
Realistically snider and Bautista are not going anywhere and you have room for 1 more guy who in a year or two will be GOSE. So why rasmus? GOSE has like 50 steals already and will be better then rasmus and rasmus is NOT a stop gap CF
What I would do is trade Edwin/Thames/Rauch for Bell and that's even pushing it
But IMO rasmus makes no sense

ThunderZubb
07-27-2011, 11:01 AM
I rather keep edwin Jackson than to trade him because he can be our third starter and we need a starter for this rotation since we DFA Jo Jo Reyes useless pitcher I ever witnesses.

juanguzman
07-27-2011, 11:12 AM
SI_JonHeyman

Word is, #bluejays may spin e-jax to #stlcards if get him from #chisox

:clap:

B2theRY
07-27-2011, 11:13 AM
obviously we have to take back Teahen contract to get back Edwin Jackson.

The only thing that is a pro for Teahen is that he's canadian.

juanguzman
07-27-2011, 11:14 AM
Joelsherman1

Like may others hear buzz Jackson is being re-directed to the Cardinals, perhaps with a reliever with Rasmus involved. But not official

bomber0104
07-27-2011, 11:14 AM
Joelsherman1

Like may others hear buzz Jackson is being re-directed to the Cardinals, perhaps with a reliever with Rasmus involved. But not official

Jackson plus Rzep.. book it

Bob_at_york
07-27-2011, 11:20 AM
If we get Rasmus then our outfield gets even more crowded. Do you think the Cards would like a 4th OF like Patterson?


Speaking about Jackson, I have never been a fan of him but if we keep him I guess he can help out in the back of the rotation.

idrinkpepsi
07-27-2011, 11:20 AM
SI_JonHeyman

Word is, #bluejays may spin e-jax to #stlcards if get him from #chisox

:clap:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/andreisama/YesJackNicholson.gif

bomber0104
07-27-2011, 11:23 AM
If we get Rasmus then our outfield gets even more crowded. Do you think the Cards would like a 4th OF like Patterson?


Speaking about Jackson, I have never been a fan of him but if we keep him I guess he can help out in the back of the rotation.

who cares man.. u dump Patterson in a second and davis in a minute if you have to

Dol-Fan
07-27-2011, 11:29 AM
who cares man.. u dump Patterson in a second and davis in a minute if you have to

Exactly...if this goes down, Patterson is kicked to the curb.

SS - Escobar
DH - Thames
RF - Bautista
1B - Lind
3B - Lawrie
CF - Rasmus
C - Arencibia
LF - Snider
2B - Hill

Give Thames some reps in the field every once in a while to give Snider/Bautista a break. Davis as a pinch runner. Golden.

I'm shaking from excitement...or the three cups of coffee :eyebrow:

Twitchy
07-27-2011, 11:29 AM
The OF may be getting crowded, but we don't exactly have a CF. Just a bunch of corner OF's who pretend to play CF and look surprised when the ball bounces in front, to the side or behind them.

Jeffy25
07-27-2011, 11:31 AM
I want my GM to be smart enough to not make a trade with your GM.

lorneg34
07-27-2011, 11:32 AM
who cares man.. u dump Patterson in a second and davis in a minute if you have to

So after you do that. Then who do you get rid of since you will have
Snider/Thames/Bautista/rasmus
Snider - on a tear
Thames - has been hot forever
Bautista - Bautista
And then u have gose/loewen waiting in the wings so when GOSE is ready who goes? We have no room/need for rasmus as good as he is...what we will give up for him we can instead go after a need (closer)
We have 17 blown saves this year. Not sure if anyone realizes that if we turn that into a Heath bell type closer we now have 10+ more wins and 1-2 games inside of first place with a 61-42 record. Just saying :)

idrinkpepsi
07-27-2011, 11:32 AM
I want my GM to be smart enough to not make a trade with your GM.

AA is a sneaky devil.

FlakeyFool
07-27-2011, 11:33 AM
maybe thames is the additional piece

North Yorker
07-27-2011, 11:34 AM
So after you do that. Then who do you get rid of since you will have
Snider/Thames/Bautista/rasmus
Snider - on a tear
Thames - has been hot forever
Bautista - Bautista
And then u have gose/loewen waiting in the wings so when GOSE is ready who goes? We have no room/need for rasmus as good as he is...what we will give up for him we can instead go after a need (closer)
We have 17 blown saves this year. Not sure if anyone realizes that if we turn that into a Heath bell type closer we now have 10+ more wins and 1-2 games inside of first place with a 61-42 record. Just saying :)

LOL. I cant believe you said we dont "need" Rasmus.

CF is probably the 1st or 2nd biggest hole on this roster. Gose is at least 2 years away, and Rasmus is cheap, young, and talented.

Bob_at_york
07-27-2011, 11:34 AM
who cares man.. u dump Patterson in a second and davis in a minute if you have to

I am not sure about the dumping Davis part but this still leaves Thames as a DH. Not really maximizing his full value.

bomber0104
07-27-2011, 11:34 AM
10:30am: The Cardinals continue to talk about Rasmus deals with the Blue Jays and other teams, tweets ESPN's Buster Olney, and the outfielder appears to be "very much available."


latest update

Dol-Fan
07-27-2011, 11:35 AM
I want my GM to be smart enough to not make a trade with your GM.

That brings a tear to my eye after the Ricciardi years.

I'm sure there will be a couple of decent prospects moving out of Toronto, though. Unless the Sox are floored by the idea of moving Teahen's contract and the Cards can't resist Jackson. I can't see any of this going down without a prospect of value heading to both Chicago and St. Louis...with AA, though, nothing would surprise me.

bomber0104
07-27-2011, 11:35 AM
I am not sure about the dumping Davis part but this still leaves Thames as a DH. Not really maximizing his full value.

if anything u send Thames back to AAA till September and you worry about the issue next year

Dol-Fan
07-27-2011, 11:37 AM
I am not sure about the dumping Davis part but this still leaves Thames as a DH. Not really maximizing his full value.

Give him spot reps in the OF until he's at least a passable defender. He's pretty horrible out there right now. I don't know about you, but an outfield of Snider-Rasmus-Bautista looks way better to me than Thames-Snider-Bautista

bomber0104
07-27-2011, 11:38 AM
So after you do that. Then who do you get rid of since you will have
Snider/Thames/Bautista/rasmus
Snider - on a tear
Thames - has been hot forever
Bautista - Bautista
And then u have gose/loewen waiting in the wings so when GOSE is ready who goes? We have no room/need for rasmus as good as he is...what we will give up for him we can instead go after a need (closer)
We have 17 blown saves this year. Not sure if anyone realizes that if we turn that into a Heath bell type closer we now have 10+ more wins and 1-2 games inside of first place with a 61-42 record. Just saying :)

There is always the DH position..

the point here is to try to stack this team with Talent and whoever takes the job and runs away with it, good for them

Dol-Fan
07-27-2011, 11:38 AM
LOL. I cant believe you said we dont "need" Rasmus.

CF is probably the 1st or 2nd biggest hole on this roster. Gose is at least 2 years away, and Rasmus is cheap, young, and talented.

and FAR from a sure thing. All teams need assets. They become redundant later on? Trade them for younger assets or an area of need.

Bluejay12_SVK
07-27-2011, 11:39 AM
What about Cooper being involved in this deal?? Just saying

juanguzman
07-27-2011, 11:39 AM
SI_JonHeyman

Heard rasmus has been discussed in proposed tor-chisox-stl trade. May well go. #tradedeadline

bomber0104
07-27-2011, 11:41 AM
Trade is official ... we got Jackson


10:37am: Jackson is now being told a trade is official, tweets Bob Nightengale of USA Today.

blujaysrock
07-27-2011, 11:41 AM
Bob Nightengale

#MLB White Sox waiting for Jacksons arrival. He is now being told deal is official

North Yorker
07-27-2011, 11:41 AM
BNightengale Bob Nightengale
#MLB White Sox waiting for Jacksons arrival. He is now being told deal is official
6 minutes ago

http://twitter.com/#!/BNightengale
:jumpy:

blujaysrock
07-27-2011, 11:42 AM
Moises Sierra the spec?

BlueJayCarter
07-27-2011, 11:43 AM
On the site that can't be named. A source indicated that Edwin Jackson has reported that the trade is official.

So I assume the part of him coming to the Jays - Frasor going to Chicago is complete. And maybe then it is up to St. Louis and Toronto to continue working on a seperate trade between Jackson and Rasmus.

I am okay with this trade. He is 28 so he would be good if kept, and if he is flipped for a position player of more value, so be it.

And sad to see Frasor go, he was a good bullpen arm but a least he has the record for Blue Jay apperances.

Dol-Fan
07-27-2011, 11:44 AM
Moises Sierra the spec?

I like Sierra but I'd have no issue with this. We have OF specs all over the place.

bomber0104
07-27-2011, 11:45 AM
Moises Sierra the spec?

no problem here.. not even close to a top 10 prospect.. players like him are dime a dozen just like Chavez in the morrow deal

blujaysrock
07-27-2011, 11:45 AM
Sierra is scratched from his game which starts soon, so I believe it could be him. Hopefully we are getting Rasmus out of this.

scotttube
07-27-2011, 11:46 AM
The OF may be getting crowded, but we don't exactly have a CF. Just a bunch of corner OF's who pretend to play CF and look surprised when the ball bounces in front, to the side or behind them.

lol so true. I never knew the importance of OF defence until this season.

blujaysrock
07-27-2011, 11:46 AM
Dave Gershman

Blue Jays prospect Moises Sierra is not in the lineup today. He's played all but three games this year.

idrinkpepsi
07-27-2011, 11:47 AM
http://twitter.com/#!/Ken_Rosenthal/status/96244046695108608

all that is left is money

bomber0104
07-27-2011, 11:47 AM
10:44am: Money appears to be the only holdup in a trade that would send Jackson to the Cardinals and Rasmus to the Blue Jays, tweets Rosenthal.


so it is Rasmus *****es... who ****ing cares about money.. all left to worry about is the prospects

idrinkpepsi
07-27-2011, 11:49 AM
so it is Rasmus *****es... who ****ing cares about money.. all left to worry about is the prospects

It's because the trade would involve more then a million dollars, and needs approval because of that.

JaysFan87
07-27-2011, 11:49 AM
If the deal goes down as said it would then this is quite a move for AA. He is quickly emerging as a quality young GM.

BlueJayCarter
07-27-2011, 11:49 AM
Yeah it indicates that the only sticking point in sending Jackson off to St. Louis is dollars.

So I am sure the three GMs involved can work it out and make all three teams exceptionally happy.

And I thought Boston or New York would make a big splash before the Trade deadline or at.

Good job A.A., he always wanted Rasmus, he finally gets his guy, if it goes through. And if not he gets Jackson.

idrinkpepsi
07-27-2011, 11:51 AM
My body is ready for Rasmus in Toronto

North Yorker
07-27-2011, 11:52 AM
"raz"

idrinkpepsi
07-27-2011, 11:53 AM
"raz"

Alright everyone quickly come up with nicknames for him.

:p

Bob_at_york
07-27-2011, 11:53 AM
what does everyone know about Rasmus that I don't? What makes him THAT SPECIAL?

bomber0104
07-27-2011, 11:54 AM
what does everyone know about Rasmus that I don't? What makes him THAT SPECIAL?

he was the 2nd best CF in baseball last year at 25 years old

edit: he was the 3rd best offensively but Hamilton is no longer a CF

scotttube
07-27-2011, 11:55 AM
Colby Rasmus!!

nithanyo
07-27-2011, 11:56 AM
I honestly don't see whats so special bout Rasmus. He has yet to hit above .276 since 2006. Thats the major and minors combined. This guy isn't a power threat or anything either.

Sure he might be good defensively but isn't that the reason we have Gose in the minors.

Id rather stick with Rajai as a stop gap until goes makes it to the majors. Plus from all accounts this guy is a bad clubhouse guy. We have a logjam in the outfield. Why do we want this guy so badly?

I think Edwin Jackson is finally meeting his potential. If i was AA i would try and resign him. Pitching IMO is our biggest weakenss.

Dol-Fan
07-27-2011, 11:56 AM
what does everyone know about Rasmus that I don't? What makes him THAT SPECIAL?

I'll start...everyone list one reason why Rasmus is special

.859 OPS as a 23 year old, third highest for CFs in majors (2nd if you exclude Hamilton, who played mostly LF)

Dol-Fan
07-27-2011, 11:57 AM
he was the 2nd best cf in baseball last year at 25 years old

23...

bomber0104
07-27-2011, 11:58 AM
23...

oh **** my bad... even better

Jeffy25
07-27-2011, 11:58 AM
.222 ISO Power

Ranks between Ryan Howard and Dan Uggla

next...

juanguzman
07-27-2011, 11:58 AM
jonmorosi

#STLCards asked about Eric Thames, as a way to make sure they got an outfielder back in Rasmus deal. Not clear if #BlueJays will move him.

nithanyo
07-27-2011, 11:59 AM
he was the 2nd best CF in baseball last year at 25 years old

edit: he was the 3rd best offensively but Hamilton is no longer a CF

who was ahead of him??

North Yorker
07-27-2011, 11:59 AM
jonmorosi Jon Morosi
#STLCards asked about Eric Thames, as a way to make sure they got an outfielder back in Rasmus deal. Not clear if #BlueJays will move him.


Not Thames:(, although it would make sense

bomber0104
07-27-2011, 11:59 AM
I honestly don't see whats so special bout Rasmus. He has yet to hit above .276 since 2006. Thats the major and minors combined. This guy isn't a power threat or anything either.

Sure he might be good defensively but isn't that the reason we have Gose in the minors.

Id rather stick with Rajai as a stop gap until goes makes it to the majors. Plus from all accounts this guy is a bad clubhouse guy. We have a logjam in the outfield. Why do we want this guy so badly?

I think Edwin Jackson is finally meeting his potential. If i was AA i would try and resign him. Pitching IMO is our biggest weakenss.

even if he hasn't reached his potential.. you take a chance if the package is that small.. ofcourse we have to wait for the prospects

I see overall its gonna cost Frasor, Rzep/Rauch, B prospect

bomber0104
07-27-2011, 12:01 PM
who was ahead of him??

Offensively, only Cargo and Hamilton were better and hamilton is no longer a CF while Cargo plays at Coors

nithanyo
07-27-2011, 12:01 PM
jonmorosi

#STLCards asked about Eric Thames, as a way to make sure they got an outfielder back in Rasmus deal. Not clear if #BlueJays will move him.

I would Correy Patterson. Thames is emerging as one of the better hitters to come out of the system in recent years

toronto#1fan
07-27-2011, 12:01 PM
i am hearing tht moises sierra might be heading to ch soz, he was scratched from his game, i am ****ing pissed.

juanguzman
07-27-2011, 12:01 PM
Buster_ESPN

Zach Stewart and Jason Frasor go from CWS for Edwin Jackson and Mark Teahen.

Jeffy25
07-27-2011, 12:01 PM
I honestly don't see whats so special bout Rasmus. He has yet to hit above .276 since 2006. Thats the major and minors combined. This guy isn't a power threat or anything either.

Sure he might be good defensively but isn't that the reason we have Gose in the minors.

Id rather stick with Rajai as a stop gap until goes makes it to the majors. Plus from all accounts this guy is a bad clubhouse guy. We have a logjam in the outfield. Why do we want this guy so badly?

I think Edwin Jackson is finally meeting his potential. If i was AA i would try and resign him. Pitching IMO is our biggest weakenss.

lmfao



see my post above for one thing, he is legit power.

His defense is actually the biggest negative for him.

His ball in play average is weak this season, but batting average is meaningless, especially for a kid that walks over 10% of the time and strikes out less than 20.

He is a good base runner, is under team control another three years at good rates, and likely won't reach his peak for another two years.

And it sounds like the Jays are getting him for a couple of relievers and okay prospects (at best).



Your post couldn't be more wrong about Rasmus. Gose may not ever be anything, and he certainly doesn't measure up to what Rasmus is likely to be. I doubt Gose ever produces 4 WAR, much less at 23 years old.

Also, he isn't a bad clubhouse guy, just TLR doesn't like that he listens to his father so much, and takes offense to it (apparently)

Bob_at_york
07-27-2011, 12:01 PM
I'll start...everyone list one reason why Rasmus is special

.859 OPS as a 23 year old, third highest for CFs in majors (2nd if you exclude Hamilton, who played mostly LF)

I thought he was more of a corner outfielder. If he is a true CF then that is impressive.

toronto#1fan
07-27-2011, 12:01 PM
chi sox*

DaSox_05
07-27-2011, 12:01 PM
Spec is Zack Stewart according to MD Gonzales

GNick
07-27-2011, 12:02 PM
A guy that has broken several White Sox deals on the White Sox mlb.com forum over the last couple years, tweeted tonight:

k0na

#WhiteSox Jackson and Teahen going to Toronto for frasor and a minor leaguer...de aza coming up from minors.

Assume we flip Jackson in another deal or collect the compensation picks?

Sounds like a logical trade. Jays want Jackson for the picks where Frasor will accept arbitration. Jays taking back a bit of salary so minor leaguer should be a throw-in.

I don't buy the Rasmus rumours. Sounds kins of squirrely the Cards would trade a high rated youngster like Rasmus for a back of the rotation ,500 pitcher who is set to be a free agent.

nithanyo
07-27-2011, 12:02 PM
Offensively, only Cargo and Hamilton were better and hamilton is no longer a CF while Cargo plays at Coors

Vernon Wells had better numbers than him last season

toronto#1fan
07-27-2011, 12:02 PM
wowwwwwwwwwww what a **** trade

DaSox_05
07-27-2011, 12:02 PM
Wow Toronto takes all Teahen's salary thank you!

North Yorker
07-27-2011, 12:03 PM
Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal
#WhiteSox send Jackson and Teahen to #BlueJays for Frasor and RH Zach Stewart. #MLB #tradedeadline


See Ya Stewart, good luck in Chi town

blujaysrock
07-27-2011, 12:03 PM
Could Sierra be going to STL in a trade then? Or maybe he was scratched due to injury or something :laugh2:

Bob_at_york
07-27-2011, 12:04 PM
Buster_ESPN

Zach Stewart and Jason Frasor go from CWS for Edwin Jackson and Mark Teahen.

Stewart? I guess i can live with that. He is getting older and we have so many other starters being developed.

toronto#1fan
07-27-2011, 12:04 PM
wow what a ridiculous trade, is AA on crack

Dol-Fan
07-27-2011, 12:04 PM
Buster_ESPN

Zach Stewart and Jason Frasor go from CWS for Edwin Jackson and Mark Teahen.

Awesome!! IMO Stewart didn't really have a place in our future.

LuckyLuke2
07-27-2011, 12:04 PM
See Ya Stewart, good luck in Chi town

WOW seriously??? Stewart was in our top ten prospect list... not impressed. I would have been good to go with Sierra being shipped out, but ****ing Stewart !

Oh well... if we get Rasmus i'll be happy.

toronto#1fan
07-27-2011, 12:05 PM
i dont give a sh** if we get rasmus givin up stewart and maybe sierra is just ridiculous

Dol-Fan
07-27-2011, 12:06 PM
lmfao



see my post above for one thing, he is legit power.

His defense is actually the biggest negative for him.

His ball in play average is weak this season, but batting average is meaningless, especially for a kid that walks over 10% of the time and strikes out less than 20.

He is a good base runner, is under team control another three years at good rates, and likely won't reach his peak for another two years.

And it sounds like the Jays are getting him for a couple of relievers and okay prospects (at best).



Your post couldn't be more wrong about Rasmus. Gose may not ever be anything, and he certainly doesn't measure up to what Rasmus is likely to be. I doubt Gose ever produces 4 WAR, much less at 23 years old.

Also, he isn't a bad clubhouse guy, just TLR doesn't like that he listens to his father so much, and takes offense to it (apparently)


Vernon Wells had better numbers than him last season

No...

Jeffy, you could have ended it after the first line. Some people just can't comprehend facts.

topgun09
07-27-2011, 12:06 PM
On twitter it said we r flipping Edwin for rasmus. Can't post link cuz I'm working :)

othunder
07-27-2011, 12:06 PM
i don't mind that trade, stewart prob a reliever long term

North Yorker
07-27-2011, 12:06 PM
i dont give a sh** if we get rasmus givin up stewart and maybe sierra is just ridiculous

:laugh2:

LuckyLuke2
07-27-2011, 12:07 PM
Yeah I know. I am not very happy. Jackson is NOT worth a top ten prospect in our system... AA has pissed me off. Even Frasor... like... he was our go to reliever, which I am fine with, but... for Jackson? There better be another move coming.

bomber0104
07-27-2011, 12:07 PM
Vernon Wells had better numbers than him last season

not higher OPS i dont think.. Wells doesn't walk so his OBP was awful

nithanyo
07-27-2011, 12:07 PM
lmfao



see my post above for one thing, he is legit power.

His defense is actually the biggest negative for him.

His ball in play average is weak this season, but batting average is meaningless, especially for a kid that walks over 10% of the time and strikes out less than 20.

He is a good base runner, is under team control another three years at good rates, and likely won't reach his peak for another two years.

And it sounds like the Jays are getting him for a couple of relievers and okay prospects (at best).


Your post couldn't be more wrong about Rasmus. Gose may not ever be anything, and he certainly doesn't measure up to what Rasmus is likely to be. I doubt Gose ever produces 4 WAR, much less at 23 years old.

Also, he isn't a bad clubhouse guy, just TLR doesn't like that he listens to his father so much, and takes offense to it (apparently)

I never seen him play so i figured you guys where high on him cus of his defence. Just looking at his numbers offensively for the last 5 years he isn't all that great.

How do you magically project his power.The guys a roller coaster.

And how do you kno the last part?

LuckyLuke2
07-27-2011, 12:08 PM
And for those saying Rasums is garbage... um since when do you figure a kid who was close to winning a gold glove in center at the age of 23 garbage? Wow he hasn't cracked higher then 276. he's 23 relax... typical. Everyone wants that player who hits 330. and who does everything else amazing.

Billyen
07-27-2011, 12:10 PM
I honestly don't see whats so special bout Rasmus. He has yet to hit above .276 since 2006. Thats the major and minors combined. This guy isn't a power threat or anything either.

Sure he might be good defensively but isn't that the reason we have Gose in the minors.

Id rather stick with Rajai as a stop gap until goes makes it to the majors. Plus from all accounts this guy is a bad clubhouse guy. We have a logjam in the outfield. Why do we want this guy so badly?

I think Edwin Jackson is finally meeting his potential. If i was AA i would try and resign him. Pitching IMO is our biggest weakenss.

x2
All this and his father is a trouble maker and he won't take instruction...

I trust AA though...Frasor for Rasmus. WOW!

toronto#1fan
07-27-2011, 12:10 PM
i dont get why so may ppl r high on rasmus and they bash snider, they r on the same boat, they got potential but havent proven ****, definatly not worth top 10 prospects, any of them.

idrinkpepsi
07-27-2011, 12:10 PM
Rasmus is like Escobar, not getting along with the coaches and needed a change of scenery.

Dol-Fan
07-27-2011, 12:10 PM
:laugh2:

Can we not quote him? I just added him to my ignore list and don't wanna read any more stupidity. I've already been unproductive at work today, reading garbage like that is only going to make it worse.

bomber0104
07-27-2011, 12:10 PM
Am I the only one that doesn't value Stewart that much..

At this point, The guy is not even a top 5 starting pitching prospect in our system.
Him being our top prospect last year was mainly a product of the weak system.

right now I would rate these guys over him

Drabek
Alvarez
Mcguire
Molina
Hutchison
Syndergaard
Nicolino

you also have guys like Jenkins, Sanchez, Cardona, and possibly Beede, Norris

come on people

DaSox_05
07-27-2011, 12:11 PM
www.twitter.com/CST_SoxVan


Tor takes Teahen salary, all of it

LuckyLuke2
07-27-2011, 12:12 PM
Am I the only one that doesn't value Stewart that much..

At this point, The guy is not even a top 5 starting pitching prospect in our system.
Him being our top prospect last year was mainly a product of the weak system.

right now I would rate these guys over him

Drabek
Alvarez
Mcguire
Molina
Hutchison
Syndergaard
Nicolino

you also have guys like Jenkins, Sanchez, Cardona, and possibly Beede, Norris

come on people


Right now, Stewart was a top ten prospect. It's not just about him being a starter, he was rumored to be also on the verge of converting to a closer which... hello... the team needs.

bomber0104
07-27-2011, 12:12 PM
Rasmus is like Escobar, not getting along with the coaches and needed a change of scenery.

if the Escobar, Morrow, and Gose trades have taught us anything, its that you can trust AA's judgment of young talent

Bob_at_york
07-27-2011, 12:12 PM
wow what a ridiculous trade, is AA on crack

I guess you are either a big believer in Stewart or you at least think he was worth more than this. I guess I can agree, he might have had more trade value but I am not a big believer in his value at the MLB level.

toronto#1fan
07-27-2011, 12:12 PM
it just kees gettin better

StayOnBoard
07-27-2011, 12:14 PM
This looks official (sorry if it was already posted)


Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports that the Blue Jays have acquired Edwin Jackson and infielder Mark Teahen from the White Sox for right-hander Jason Frasor.
Of course, Jackson likely won't be with the Blue Jays for long. Nightengale reports that the 27-year-old right-hander is expected to be flipped to the Cardinals in a deal that will bring center fielder Colby Rasmus to Toronto

The bolded part makes me VERY pleased.

toronto#1fan
07-27-2011, 12:14 PM
it wasn't so much about stewart ability, i think we could have gotten more for him

North Yorker
07-27-2011, 12:14 PM
www.twitter.com/CST_SoxVan

Which is why they only had to give up Stewart and not a high ceiling spec.

toronto#1fan
07-27-2011, 12:14 PM
we gave up way to muchhh

3mikee_
07-27-2011, 12:14 PM
I honestly thought that Stewart was going to be part of our long term plans. I'm going to go ahead and guess that there is another move coming, cause this one doesn't make sense to me.

othunder
07-27-2011, 12:14 PM
stewart is 25 and still in AA and does not have good #'s. check out kevin Goldstein twitter for some insight on stewart

bomber0104
07-27-2011, 12:15 PM
Right now, Stewart was a top ten prospect. It's not just about him being a starter, he was rumored to be also on the verge of converting to a closer which... hello... the team needs.

trust me, you could flip any of the guys i mentioned for a stud relieving prospect.. they are everywhere

bartron_44
07-27-2011, 12:15 PM
guys, if you want to see why everyone is so high on Rasmus, check out the year the kid put up as a 20 year old in AA in 2007. Sure it is 4 years ago, but the kid hit 29 homers, 37 doubles, walked 70 times, and had a batting average of .275. Those are foolish power numbers from a 20 year old playing any position, let alone CF.

Stewart had a good year last year, but he is a pitcher throwing 91mph, and relying on pinpoint control to be effective. We needed to make room in AA for Nestor Molina soon, and of the pitchers in AA, he would be one of my first choices to trade (right behind Jenkins).

AA will get this Rasmus deal done...have faith boys, have faith.

idrinkpepsi
07-27-2011, 12:15 PM
https://twitter.com/#!/Ken_Rosenthal/status/96251886172250112

Ken reports cash must be coming from St.Louis - Jays trade

LuckyLuke2
07-27-2011, 12:15 PM
No we didn't, not if we get Rasmus.

Dol-Fan
07-27-2011, 12:15 PM
Right now, Stewart was a top ten prospect. It's not just about him being a starter, he was rumored to be also on the verge of converting to a closer which... hello... the team needs.

Exactly what about Stewart's 92 MPH fastball and 5 K/9 (majors) screams closer to you?

North Yorker
07-27-2011, 12:16 PM
it wasn't so much about stewart ability, i think we could have gotten more for him

Stewart projects to a #4 or #5 SP or a late inning RP. We have so many pitchers with higher ceilings than that.

2009mvp
07-27-2011, 12:16 PM
Depends on what they flip along with Jackson for Rasmus, but this looks like another ****ING BRILLIANT AA move! Even if Rasmus completely flops this is exactly the kind of move the Jays need to make. Wow I'm excited.

Jeffy25
07-27-2011, 12:17 PM
The White Sox/Blue Jays deal is official, and done.

No cash swapped.

The Cards and Blue Jays however is not, there is a cash swap happening, not sure what or how much or the players involved for sure.

nithanyo
07-27-2011, 12:17 PM
And for those saying Rasums is garbage... um since when do you figure a kid who was close to winning a gold glove in center at the age of 23 garbage? Wow he hasn't cracked higher then 276. he's 23 relax... typical. Everyone wants that player who hits 330. and who does everything else amazing.

Jeffy was just saying how his defence is his biggest negative. Accoording to u this guy was gonna win a gold glove?

Personally I'm a guy who is big on pitching. If theres a chance we can resign Jackson to a reasonable contract i would do it. He would be a nice pitcher behind Romero and Morrow. Our pitching really sucks.

Our outfield has a log jam. We got Snider, Thames, Bautista, Davis plus a bunch of guys in the minors.

StayOnBoard
07-27-2011, 12:17 PM
stewart is 25 and still in AA and does not have good #'s. check out kevin Goldstein twitter for some insight on stewart

This ^

I like Stewart too - he's a good player and a personal favorite of mine.... but if we traded him for Jackson (who could be flipped for Rasmus) I'll be absolutely THRILLED - especially given how much depth we have in the minors with our pitching staff.

If we don't get Rasmus and this was all for a Type B free agent then I won't be too pleased...

Bsmith33
07-27-2011, 12:18 PM
Yeah I know. I am not very happy. Jackson is NOT worth a top ten prospect in our system... AA has pissed me off. Even Frasor... like... he was our go to reliever, which I am fine with, but... for Jackson? There better be another move coming.

There's definitely another deal coming with Rasmus. Now, the reason Stewart I think became a little more expendable was because Deck McGuire just got promoted to Double A and they feel he is progressing better than expected.

The Jays have Alvarez, Drabek, and McQuire getting set within the next couple of years to enter the rotation. We'll be log jammed. Plus, I think AA is going to target a Free Agent Starting Pitcher. Or, he'll look to get one to put them over the hump at the deadline in 2012.

As for Thames being a possible piece to the Rasmus trade; I hope that's not true. I'd rather have a prospect in AA or AAA; I think Thames has a lot of potential.

toronto#1fan
07-27-2011, 12:19 PM
guys i will clear things up right now, i am pissed not at the fact tht stewart could have been sik in the future, i just think we could have gotten more, thts it.

Jeffy25
07-27-2011, 12:20 PM
I never seen him play so i figured you guys where high on him cus of his defence. Just looking at his numbers offensively for the last 5 years he isn't all that great.

How do you magically project his power.The guys a roller coaster.

And how do you kno the last part?

It's well documented and repeatedly discussed in St. Louis media.

How is a guy in his third year a roller coaster?

His power should actually develop even better then it currently sits.

He could be a .250 ISO hitter, which out of a CFer is just ridiculous power.

StayOnBoard
07-27-2011, 12:21 PM
The White Sox/Blue Jays deal is official, and done.

No cash swapped.

The Cards and Blue Jays however is not, there is a cash swap happening, not sure what or how much or the players involved for sure.

Interesting... any idea if Rasmus to the Jays is a sure-fire thing

If so I'm gonna do backflips in my office :D And no ... I'm not taping it for when I fall flat on my face :D

North Yorker
07-27-2011, 12:21 PM
It looks like it's Sierra + Jackson + cash for Rasmus.


EDIT: Sierra isnt involved...


Wilnerness590 Mike Wilner
Going on the air with Gord Stellick RIGHT NOW to talk about the 3way deal. None of Thames, Hechavarria, Sierra are involved. #bluejays #Jays
http://twitter.com/#!/Wilnerness590

LuckyLuke2
07-27-2011, 12:21 PM
Jeffy was just saying how his defence is his biggest negative. Accoording to u this guy was gonna win a gold glove?

Personally I'm a guy who is big on pitching. If theres a chance we can resign Jackson to a reasonable contract i would do it. He would be a nice pitcher behind Romero and Morrow. Our pitching really sucks.

Our outfield has a log jam. We got Snider, Thames, Bautista, Davis plus a bunch of guys in the minors.

It's not his negative what the hell? He is a stud on defence. I am also big on pitching but Jackson isn't the answer. He's better than Reyes, and even Villanueva, but if it means getting Rasmus you have to agree that it's beneficial.

StayOnBoard
07-27-2011, 12:22 PM
It's well documented and repeatedly discussed in St. Louis media.

How is a guy in his third year a roller coaster?

His power should actually develop even better then it currently sits.

He could be a .250 ISO hitter, which out of a CFer is just ridiculous power.

When Jeffy talks (or... umm... types lol) - I listen :nod:

KaiserSose
07-27-2011, 12:26 PM
Wilner twitter: http://twitter.com/#!/Wilnerness590

Going on the air with Gord Stellick RIGHT NOW to talk about the 3way deal. None of Thames, Hechavarria, Sierra are involved.

2009mvp
07-27-2011, 12:27 PM
It looks like it's Sierra + Jackson + cash for Rasmus.

If true, that definitely works for me. Another corner OF who doesn't walk and is hitting for marginal power in the minors? Buh bye!

StayOnBoard
07-27-2011, 12:27 PM
Wilner twitter: http://twitter.com/#!/Wilnerness590

Going on the air with Gord Stellick RIGHT NOW to talk about the 3way deal. None of Thames, Hechavarria, Sierra are involved.

3 way deal? You mean with Rasmus and the Cards?

If we get him - Im going to explode with excitement. There goes my work productivity this afternoon... straight down the toilet :)

idrinkpepsi
07-27-2011, 12:27 PM
Article from Fangraphs on why the Cardinals shouldn't trade Rasmus (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/why-the-cardinals-cant-trade-colby-rasmus/) (July 13th)

The first comment is "As a Cardinals fan, the thought of them making a deal similar to the Braves swap of Yunel Escobar last season – a young player with demonstrated ability having a poor season for an overrated veteran – is scary"

LOL

StayOnBoard
07-27-2011, 12:28 PM
If true, that definitely works for me. Another corner OF who doesn't walk and is hitting for marginal power in the minors? Buh bye!

So - it would basically be Stewart, Sierra, Frasor and cash? For Rasmus??

AA is the ****ing man! :clap:

North Yorker
07-27-2011, 12:28 PM
If true, that definitely works for me. Another corner OF who doesn't walk and is hitting for marginal power in the minors? Buh bye!

Yea my bad, Wilner just posted





Wilnerness590 Mike Wilner
Going on the air with Gord Stellick RIGHT NOW to talk about the 3way deal. None of Thames, Hechavarria, Sierra are involved. #bluejays #Jays
http://twitter.com/#!/Wilnerness590

Dol-Fan
07-27-2011, 12:28 PM
3 way deal? You mean with Rasmus and the Cards?

If we get him - Im going to explode with excitement. There goes my work productivity this afternoon... straight down the toilet :)

productivity in offices across Ontario has just plummeted...

henderson56
07-27-2011, 12:29 PM
Word is, edwin jackson definitely is being traded again, this time from toronto. I've heard its going to be for rasmus. #tradedeadline

Jon Heyman Twitter

Dol-Fan
07-27-2011, 12:29 PM
Yea my bad, Wilner just posted





http://twitter.com/#!/Wilnerness590

None of them are involved? I don't know if that's a good or bad thing...I wouldn't be upset if any of those three were moved for Rasmus

tuck25
07-27-2011, 12:30 PM
Thank God Frasor is gone, bye-bye!!!

1hardcore
07-27-2011, 12:32 PM
Well the BP just got ******** now ....

Still not losing hope yet

JaysFan87
07-27-2011, 12:32 PM
productivity in offices across Ontario has just plummeted...

down the drain for the rest of the day!


I think i might have also wet myself....

henderson56
07-27-2011, 12:32 PM
Blue Jays have been on Rasmus since early July, and made runs at him last off-season.

Shi Davidi Twitter

Billyen
07-27-2011, 12:33 PM
Depends on what they flip along with Jackson for Rasmus, but this looks like another ****ING BRILLIANT AA move! Even if Rasmus completely flops this is exactly the kind of move the Jays need to make. Wow I'm excited.

Yes...even if Rasmus bombs, I like the trade style AA is going for. We are trading for young superstar potential like Lawrie. I also like that AA likes someone and will spend years trying to get him.

Bob_at_york
07-27-2011, 12:34 PM
Yea my bad, Wilner just posted





http://twitter.com/#!/Wilnerness590

that makes me wonder who might be included.

Dol-Fan
07-27-2011, 12:34 PM
that makes me wonder who might be included.

Just read a tweet in the MLB forum that Rzep and Dotel have been discussed

T.O. Fan
07-27-2011, 12:34 PM
This is so awesome!

tuck25
07-27-2011, 12:35 PM
productivity in offices across Ontario has just plummeted...

lol, across canada even!!!

KaiserSose
07-27-2011, 12:35 PM
that makes me wonder who might be included.

Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
Among the other pieces that STL/TOR have talked about, besides Edwin Jackson, are Marc Rzepczynski, Octavio Dotel. #trades
4 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

http://twitter.com/#!/Buster_ESPN

2009mvp
07-27-2011, 12:35 PM
Olney:

Among the other pieces that STL/TOR have talked about, besides Edwin Jackson, are Marc Rzepczynski, Octavio Dotel. #trades
http://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/status/96256258692222976

Please take Dotel and call it a day :pray:

Nels@Ryerson
07-27-2011, 12:35 PM
productivity in offices across Ontario has just plummeted...

Im basically done for the day.. and its 12:35..lol.. thanks AA

JaysFan87
07-27-2011, 12:35 PM
Jon Heyman of SI.com hears that the Blue Jays will flip Edwin Jackson to the Cardinals in a deal for Colby Rasmus.
Jackson alone won't get it done and the Blue Jays will likely have to kick in some salary relief, but this is still a potential coup for Alex Anthopoulos. Cardinals manager Tony La Russa has continuously bumped heads with Rasmus, but he's only 24 years old and remains under team control through 2014.

rotoworld

blujaysrock
07-27-2011, 12:35 PM
Olney:

http://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/status/96256258692222976

Please take Dotel and call it a day :pray:

If that trade happens :worthy:

StayOnBoard
07-27-2011, 12:36 PM
I'll **** my pants if we get Rasmus for Dotel and Edwin

****.my.pants

North Yorker
07-27-2011, 12:36 PM
Wilnerness590 Mike Wilner
#Bluejays make Frasor/Stewart for Jackson/Teahen official. I'm told part 2 is coming down the pipe soon. #rasmusontheway #jays
25 seconds ago

T.O. Fan
07-27-2011, 12:37 PM
Please be Dotel!!!!

Dol-Fan
07-27-2011, 12:37 PM
I'll **** my pants if we get Rasmus for Dotel and Edwin

****.my.pants

Let's all **** our pants and then drop our dirty trousers in front of Rogers Centre as a sign of appreciation?

ShortsideShot14
07-27-2011, 12:38 PM
AA continues to turn spare parts into young, talented players. I love it!

JaysFan87
07-27-2011, 12:38 PM
Wilnerness590
#Bluejays make Frasor/Stewart for Jackson/Teahen official. I'm told part 2 is coming down the pipe soon. #rasmusontheway #jays

Nels@Ryerson
07-27-2011, 12:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXfHLUlZf4

And when AA traded a couple of type B players and received Colby i ... J!ZZED IN MY PANTS!!

T.O. Fan
07-27-2011, 12:38 PM
What is the plan with Teahen. Not that anyone really cares at this stage, lol!

T.O. Fan
07-27-2011, 12:38 PM
Let's all **** our pants and then drop our dirty trousers in front of Rogers Centre as a sign of appreciation?

I'm already there ;)

North Yorker
07-27-2011, 12:39 PM
JoeStrauss Joe Strauss
Trade of Rasmus to Toronto imminent for Jackson, Dotel, Rzepczynski. More @stltoday.


:laugh2:

blujaysrock
07-27-2011, 12:39 PM
JoeStrauss Joe Strauss

Trade of Rasmus to Toronto imminent for Jackson, Dotel, Rzepczynski. More @stltoday.

StayOnBoard
07-27-2011, 12:39 PM
JoeStrauss Joe Strauss
Trade of Rasmus to Toronto imminent for Jackson, Dotel, Rzepczynski. More @stltoday.

Take it for what it's worth.

2009mvp
07-27-2011, 12:40 PM
Dotel and Rzeps. Pen's gutted, but **** it. COLBY RASMUS!!!

North Yorker
07-27-2011, 12:40 PM
:dance2::dance::guns::nod:


:worthy:AA

T.O. Fan
07-27-2011, 12:41 PM
So in effect, it could be Stewart, Frasor, Rzepcynski, Dotel for Rasmus, Teahen?

Dol-Fan
07-27-2011, 12:41 PM
Guys...is this real life? :eyebrow:

Nels@Ryerson
07-27-2011, 12:43 PM
Dotel and Rzeps. Pen's gutted, but **** it. COLBY RASMUS!!!

So we lost a total of 3 pen arms....

I am going to think that drabek and listch will be up... and villanueva will move to the pen.... along with mills and others...

2009mvp
07-27-2011, 12:43 PM
Lots of quantity, but not really any top shelf talent for a potentially elite young, controllable CF. Wow. From ~100M worth of Vernon Wells to Colby freakin Rasmus within like 6 months. AA...just wow.

Bluejay12_SVK
07-27-2011, 12:43 PM
so we just traded 1 comp. pick (Frasor), Stewart, Rzep and 60 games of Dotel for RASMUS

awesome

T.O. Fan
07-27-2011, 12:43 PM
Apparently it's immenent, can't spell. Don't care :)

http://twitter.com/#!/JoeStrauss/statuses/96257276083580928

North Yorker
07-27-2011, 12:43 PM
So basically 2 comp picks, a 24 year old AA SP/RP, and Rzeps for a 4 WAR 24 year old CF, and a salary dump?

Win.

idrinkpepsi
07-27-2011, 12:44 PM
So in effect, it could be Stewart, Frasor, Rzepcynski, Dotel for Rasmus, Teahen?

:worthy:

nithanyo
07-27-2011, 12:44 PM
Jackson throws like 98, 99mph. Didn't kno that

DeRozan10
07-27-2011, 12:45 PM
Stewart, Zep, Frasor, Dotel for Rasmus, Teahen???

Could go down as another steal for AA...

T.O. Fan
07-27-2011, 12:45 PM
I wonder if Teahen will end up at 2B?

mikel17
07-27-2011, 12:45 PM
guys is the deal for rasmus a done deal? because i havent seen anything being reported

lexecutioner
07-27-2011, 12:45 PM
so AA just raped 2 franchises today? :)

GrantHustle
07-27-2011, 12:46 PM
1. Escobar
2. Rasmus
3. Bautista
4. Lind
5. Lawrie
6. Thames
7. Snider
8. JPA
9. Hill

When Lawrie gets called up soon all i can say is :drool:

idrinkpepsi
07-27-2011, 12:46 PM
I wonder if Teahen will end up at 2B?

Played three games his whole career at second base.

lexecutioner
07-27-2011, 12:47 PM
Jackson throws like 98, 99mph. Didn't kno that

ill always remember you from saying "A classy player playing for classless fans" (mentioned during Vernon Wells trade)

T.O. Fan
07-27-2011, 12:47 PM
Guys, I'm going home fast to make sure all my doors are locked before AA steals anything else.

bomber0104
07-27-2011, 12:47 PM
i dont think we're given both Dotel and rzpe.. probably just speculation

Bob_at_york
07-27-2011, 12:47 PM
If we trade all these bullpen arms for Rasmus, do we then go after Heath Bell? Trade an outfielder for him?

Jays52
07-27-2011, 12:47 PM
This is a genious move by AA

StayOnBoard
07-27-2011, 12:47 PM
Joe Strauss of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports that a deal that will send Colby Rasmus to the Blue Jays for Edwin Jackson, Octavio Dotel and Marc Rzepczynski is "imminent."
The Blue Jays would also likely throw in some salary relief, but this is still a disappointing return for a 24-year-old center fielder. Jackson will help in the short-term, as he is in a fine position to succeed under pitching coach Dave Duncan, but he will be a free agent following the season. That means that the Cardinals will likely have Rzepczynski and a draft pick to show for Rasmus a few months from now

I'm losing my mind - need official confirmation

T.O. Fan
07-27-2011, 12:47 PM
Played three games his whole career at second base.

Perhaps he gets flipped too then for a pen pitcher.

Luca68
07-27-2011, 12:48 PM
whats the rumored trade for rasmus?

North Yorker
07-27-2011, 12:48 PM
1. Escobar
2. Rasmus
3. Bautista
4. Lind
5. Lawrie
6. Thames
7. Snider
8. JPA
9. Hill

When Lawrie gets called up soon all i can say is :drool:

Imagine for a second that we replace Hill with Brandon Phillips in the offseason :drool:

nithanyo
07-27-2011, 12:48 PM
ill always remember you from saying "A classy player playing for classless fans" (mentioned during Vernon Wells trade)

LOL and?

mikel17
07-27-2011, 12:49 PM
ahaha i just checked Colby Rasmus on wiki and it said that hes a player for the toronto blue jays lool and they quickly changed it loool

Dol-Fan
07-27-2011, 12:49 PM
If we trade all these bullpen arms for Rasmus, do we then go after Heath Bell? Trade an outfielder for him?

Who cares if we got Rasmus!

Mills and Litsch likely get called up, maybe Farquhar.

idrinkpepsi
07-27-2011, 12:49 PM
Damn, if its two pen arms and Edwin for Rasmus it'll be a steal.

1hardcore
07-27-2011, 12:49 PM
Jackson throws like 98, 99mph. Didn't kno that

LOLhahahha


like i said before ... throwing 98 99 doesnt translate into Wins all the time ...

Jackson's an okay pitcher but he's not that hot !... In fact if anything it might translate to injuries :P

But if the jays get Rasmus i'm for it !

They still need lots of pitching help

Nels@Ryerson
07-27-2011, 12:50 PM
ahaha i just checked Colby Rasmus on wiki and it said that hes a player for the toronto blue jays lool and they quickly changed it loool


no it doesnt

Goalie31
07-27-2011, 12:51 PM
Dotel, Jackson and Rzep for Ramus according to MLB Trade Rumors. Says the deal is imminent

And sad to see Stewart go.

StayOnBoard
07-27-2011, 12:51 PM
LOLhahahha


like i said before ... throwing 98 99 doesnt translate into Wins all the time ...

Jackson's an okay pitcher but he's not that hot !... In fact if anything it might translate to injuries :P

He's actually a decent pitcher... though I don't know what St. Louis is thinking if this trade goes though.

It looks like a done but not official trade right now - and I can't even contain my joy.

AA is the ****ing man - there isn't anymore to say...

idrinkpepsi
07-27-2011, 12:52 PM
Who will get called up?

Luca68
07-27-2011, 12:52 PM
Dotel, Jackson and Rzep for Ramus according to MLB Trade Rumors. Says the deal is imminent

And sad to see Stewart go.

omgomgomgomg if this is the deal i will diieeeee :drool:

mikel17
07-27-2011, 12:53 PM
no it doesnt

yeahh it does it says he got traded to the jays for edwin jackson and a player to be named later lool

jaysfan55
07-27-2011, 12:54 PM
Welcome to TO

North Yorker
07-27-2011, 12:54 PM
Who will get called up?

Im guessing Patterson gets dealt or DFA'd.

L. Perez, Litsch will be called up Im assuming.

Luca68
07-27-2011, 12:57 PM
its official ?

1hardcore
07-27-2011, 12:57 PM
Jessie Litsch i dont think should be a starter though ... he's not that durable nor has he got the stamina to go long

ThunderZubb
07-27-2011, 12:57 PM
Is it official do u have a link or a source? Who did we trade for him?

GrantHustle
07-27-2011, 12:58 PM
our bench gets better Molina, Johnny Mac, Teahan , Davis ....mccoy prolly goes down to Las Vegas ....patterson gets the boot prolly just waived .....then Perez,Litch or Mills gets called up

Boston-Born
07-27-2011, 12:59 PM
If its for E Jax, Dotel, and The Big Z, then it is an absolute steal.

Goalie31
07-27-2011, 12:59 PM
Apperently Mills has been called up for Bullpin help. Dont quote me on that someone from Sportsnet tweeted it

North Yorker
07-27-2011, 12:59 PM
Jessie Litsch i dont think should be a starter though ... he's not that durable nor has he got the stamina to go long

We need to call up a 5th starter, so it's either Litsch or Mills...

Dol-Fan
07-27-2011, 01:00 PM
not official yet...

bomber0104
07-27-2011, 01:01 PM
Joe Strauss of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports that a deal that will send Colby Rasmus to the Blue Jays for Edwin Jackson, Octavio Dotel and Marc Rzepczynski is "imminent."
The Blue Jays would also likely throw in some salary relief, but this is still a disappointing return for a 24-year-old center fielder. Jackson will help in the short-term, as he is in a fine position to succeed under pitching coach Dave Duncan, but he will be a free agent following the season. That means that the Cardinals will likely have Rzepczynski and a draft pick to show for Rasmus a few months from now

haha... good luck getting a pick for Dotel.. He will take arbitration the second its offered

toronto#1fan
07-27-2011, 01:02 PM
aight i got over the fact we trade stewart, this si a hell of a trade for rasmus i love it.

Farsight
07-27-2011, 01:02 PM
I wake up to find out all this... IM soooo happy. Ive been saying for over a year the jays should get Ramus (but it was so unrealistic), and now it might happen!!!!

idrinkpepsi
07-27-2011, 01:02 PM
haha... good luck getting a pick for Dotel.. He will take arbitration the second its offered

It'll be like when Soriano accepted the Braves arbitration :D

Tmath
07-27-2011, 01:03 PM
Don't jinx it *******

BlueLeafs
07-27-2011, 01:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEaXZEE2Vig

This video suits AA.........

Goalie31
07-27-2011, 01:05 PM
ShiDavidi Shi Davidi
by RogersSportsnet
If the Blue Jays do end up getting Rasmus for Jackson, Zep and Dotel, then AA has committed another theft. Just like Escobar deal last year

sportsnetbarry Barry Davis
by RogersSportsnet
If the Rausmus deal goes thru the #bluejays will have lost 3 arms from pen (frasor-Rzep-Dotel) and added 1- (Mills). expect 2 callup


Just heard patterson might be in the deal and guess who might come back... TALLET

toronto#1fan
07-27-2011, 01:06 PM
oh god no lol

DeRozan10
07-27-2011, 01:06 PM
Weren't some people here willing to trade Snider or Drabek for Rasmus at the start of the year?

KaiserSose
07-27-2011, 01:06 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/Buster_ESPN

Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
The trade: Colby Rasmus, Trever Miller, Brian Tallet and P.J. Walters for Jackson, Marc Rzepczynski, Dotel and Corey Patterson.#trades



WE GOT TALLET BACK W00T

DieHardColtsfan
07-27-2011, 01:06 PM
Does this mean the Jays are giving up or looking to deal Snider?

hntrr31
07-27-2011, 01:06 PM
It's being reported on KFFL as "imminent."

I hate to use the term "rape" lightly, but how else could you possibly describe this?

GrantHustle
07-27-2011, 01:06 PM
ewwwwwwwwwww brian tallet just threw up in my mouth alittle bit

anotherqtip420
07-27-2011, 01:07 PM
I was checking out the Cards forum and they are not to happy with this rumored trade,Rasmus for EJack,Dotel,Zepy+cash(if there is any). I read a few of the posts and they were thinking they would get Thames or Sierra in a return with EJack and maybe more prospects. The more the air cleared and they saw that it could only be EJack,Dotel,Zepy they were angry to say the least. Stupid GM was a post i saw and of course my fav. was "loading a shotgun pointing it towards my head" LOL . That's awesome if AA pulls this off,but at the same time AA is going to have to cool off for abit if pulls this off because no GM in his right mind is going to answer his calls anymore for the fear of being raped. AA is a god. My only fear is Rasmus attitude or his father follow him here. Here's hoping all he needs is a change of scenery but at the same time if his dad tries that ***** here the fans and the media will crucify them at the drop of a dime. Thats why are fans are so great,you bust your ***** & give it 100% we'll treat you like a god but if you dog **** it and cop an attitude we'll run your *** out of town like Rios.

nithanyo
07-27-2011, 01:07 PM
Imagine for a second that we replace Hill with Brandon Phillips in the offseason :drool:


Escobar
Thames
Bautista
Lind
Lawrie
Rasmus
Philips
Snider
Arencibia

.... now thats a dirty lineup

Bluejay12_SVK
07-27-2011, 01:07 PM
Oh ****

no more Tallet please :D

idrinkpepsi
07-27-2011, 01:07 PM
just heard patterson might be in the deal and guess who might come back... Tallet

8.31 era? Sounds good to me.

King Rick
07-27-2011, 01:07 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/Buster_ESPN

Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
The trade: Colby Rasmus, Trever Miller, Brian Tallet and P.J. Walters for Jackson, Marc Rzepczynski, Dotel and Corey Patterson.#trades



WE GOT TALLET BACK W00T

The true saviour of the Blue Jays :D

Converged
07-27-2011, 01:07 PM
RT @FakeAnthopoulos: I am saving Francisco and Camp for the Ubaldo Jimenez deal. #blueJays #tradedeadline #Rockies #Rox #Jays

Haha classic.

Woo! Tallet is back haha. :facepalm:

2009mvp
07-27-2011, 01:08 PM
No more Patterson!

Nels@Ryerson
07-27-2011, 01:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEaXZEE2Vig

This video suits AA.........

lmfao... soo true!!

KaiserSose
07-27-2011, 01:08 PM
ewwwwwwwwwww brian tallet just threw up in my mouth alittle bit

but we get rid of patterson!

Luca68
07-27-2011, 01:08 PM
**** tallet omggg :( he was destined to be a jay i guesss :facepalm:

toronto#1fan
07-27-2011, 01:08 PM
r those other guys any good?

bartron_44
07-27-2011, 01:10 PM
Here is an interesting stat..

Leading off an inning, Rasmus is hitting .348 this year with an OBP of .419!!! Can you say new leadoff man?

Rasmus
Escobar
Bautista
Lind
Lawrie
Snider
Thames/EE
Hill
JPA

GrantHustle
07-27-2011, 01:10 PM
but we get rid of patterson!

should let corey throw out of the bullpen might do a better job then tallet

StayOnBoard
07-27-2011, 01:10 PM
Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
The trade: Colby Rasmus, Trever Miller, Brian Tallet and P.J. Walters for Jackson, Marc Rzepczynski, Dotel and Corey Patterson.#trades

Is this legit? If so - the Cards just got FLEECED.

Also who cares about Tallet? We got Rasmus - I don't care who else was involved - we got Rasmus!!!!!!

idrinkpepsi
07-27-2011, 01:11 PM
https://twitter.com/#!/Buster_ESPN/status/96264491574104065

were getting more then Tallet..

gustofer1
07-27-2011, 01:12 PM
describe it as the Jays giving up what the ChiSox needed to acquire a piece that the Cards needed to make a deal for a highly touted prospect that's MLB ready in Rasmus. Congrats Toronto, you probably won this years trade deadline.

DaSox_05
07-27-2011, 01:13 PM
www.twitter.com/Buster_ESPN


The trade: Colby Rasmus, Trever Miller, Brian Tallet and P.J. Walters for Jackson, Marc Rzepczynski, Dotel and Corey Patterson.#trades

North Yorker
07-27-2011, 01:13 PM
Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
Source: Trever Miller is expected to be traded to the White Sox, from Toronto.