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mzgrizz
07-03-2011, 03:26 PM
Noticed Pau, Rudy Fernandez and Kobe's names are being bandied about re: leaving to play abroad. Does anyone have knowledge what happens to these guys who DO leave and sign with overseas teams when the lockout ends??

PhillyFaninLA
07-03-2011, 03:38 PM
The contracts are still legally binding in the US. Once a new CBA was signed and the lockout lifted if they ever came back to the US they would be guilty of breach of contract and could be sued for all projected income there presence on the team could have generated.

Most likely they would have a clause in over seas contract that gives the player the option to void the deal when a new CBA is signed and the lockout lifted.

PhillyFaninLA
07-03-2011, 03:39 PM
Also the lockout ending means nothing if a new CBA isn't signed because there still would be no free agency or league operations of any kind so they would not be playing, being traded, and free agents won't be signed even if there was no lockout.

CBA AND LOCKOUT ARE 2 DIFFERENT THINGS.

Hellcrooner
07-03-2011, 03:52 PM
its a tricky question, there are many things to take in consideration, but you can be SURE it would all end up in a court room, and theres no previous legislation nor jurisprudency on the subject.

the only ones that can for SURE sign in europe are the FA.

mzgrizz
07-03-2011, 03:57 PM
Plain unrestricted or restricted FA's??? Is there a difference in how their "old" team would view them?

Hellcrooner
07-03-2011, 04:25 PM
Plain unrestricted or restricted FA's??? Is there a difference in how their "old" team would view them?

Marc can sign for whoever he wants in europe and grizz have no say on it.

Of course if he wants to GO BACK to nba then GRIZZ still have his RFA rights.

JJ_JKidd
07-03-2011, 10:47 PM
its a tricky question, there are many things to take in consideration, but you can be SURE it would all end up in a court room, and theres no previous legislation nor jurisprudency on the subject.

the only ones that can for SURE sign in europe are the FA.

Chuck for US Congress! Chuck files a bill "An Act Declaring What NBA Players Can, and Cannot do in Case of a Lockout." :p

TrueFan420
07-03-2011, 10:52 PM
Most likely they would have a clause in over seas contract that gives the player the option to void the deal when a new CBA is signed and the lockout lifted.

this

Tmath
07-03-2011, 11:09 PM
Don't count out Canada. We are gonna have our own league soon. lol


NBL OF CANADA HOPES FOR 7 TEAMS IN 1ST SEASON
Last Updated: July 01, 2011

TORONTO – The National Basketball League of Canada (NBL) is looking to have seven teams when its inaugural season gets under way this fall, but Kingston, Ont., won't be one of them.

The league announced on its Twitter account Thursday that the ownership group in Kingston was unable to reach a lease agreement with the city. The NBL said it's now "in serious negotiations" to bring that franchise to Moncton, N.B.



Oshawa and London in Ontario and a team in Prince Edward Island are likely to join founding members Halifax Rainmen, Saint John Mill Rats and Quebec Kebs on the court for the NBL's first season.

The league held its first owners' meeting in Toronto on Wednesday where it was decided to establish active team rosters of a minimum of 10 players and a maximum of 12. Two of the players must be Canadian.

The owners also voted to have the NBL play under FIBA rules, but with 12-minute quarters. The number of regular season games was set at 36, with each team playing each other in three home and three away games.

Other decisions taken during the Toronto meeting:

• Established the playoff format to consist of the top four teams based on their regular season record. The first round of playoffs will be a best of three series, with the championship round being a best of five.
• Voted on holding the inaugural NBL Canada All-Star Weekend in mid-January 2012, and establishing a process for cities to bid on hosting.
• Returning franchises will be permitted to submit a protected list to the league of five players from the previous season.
• The NBL Canada Pre-Draft Combine will be held on Aug. 20-21 at Seneca College in Toronto. The first day will be a free agent combine, while the second day will for Canadian players only.
• The NBL Draft will be held on Aug. 21 at the Rogers Centre in Toronto. The draft will consist of three rounds, the first being for free agent players, while the second and third rounds will be for Canadian players only. All draft candidates must pre-register and attend the combine.
• The order of the draft was established by lottery for the four expansion teams, followed by the founding teams in the reverse order of last season's records in the Premier Basketball League. The official draft order will be released when the 2011-12 NBL teams are formally announced, which the league hopes will be in about two weeks.

“We are pleased to report that the majority of our teams have met the requirement of establishing and securing their lease agreements for the 2011‐12 season, and are currently in the process of finalizing paperwork for signatures,” said Andre Levingston, the league's interim president and CEO.

Once the league receives signed leases from each ownership group it will begin to finalize the teams’ applications for approval.

John Walls Era
07-03-2011, 11:19 PM
I believe they can stay there, but if they go back to the NBA they need to play for the team that they have a contract with (Might be wrong).

IndyRealist
07-04-2011, 08:26 AM
The NBA and most international leagues have an agreement to honor eachother's contracts. If players sign with a foreign team and the lockout ends, I would assume their previously signed NBA contracts take precedence. However, if the player is a free agent and signs a multi-year deal overseas, he's probably stuck there since the NBA will acknowledge his contract.

mzgrizz
07-04-2011, 12:17 PM
Since we are in murky waters here, I am supposing that all of you guys' points have truth.
So if a contracted NBA player goes overseas, he(or his NBA team) most likely will have to compensate his foreign team if he wants to come back to the USA.
Free agents,unrestricted, can walk and stay away without any limitation other than their new contracts with a foreign team.
Restricted free agents can walk but if they come back, they have to go through their old NBA team. And I am assuming compensation again to the foreign team from the player or the NBA team. All this is my opinion and it's probably as good as any.
What a messed up HAPPY 4th OF JULY !!!!!!!!!!!!!