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JoeyBoy718
06-25-2011, 02:40 AM
Rubio went #5 two years ago in a fairly strong draft that saw the likes of Blake Griffin, James Harden, Tyreke Evans, Stephen Curry, Ty Lawson, Jrue Holliday, Darren Collison. So in this draft, a class said to be one of the worst ever, where do you think Rubio would have gone? #3 after Irving and Williams? #2 after Irving? #1 overall?

GoatMilk
06-25-2011, 02:54 AM
1st or 2nd

Trace
06-25-2011, 03:08 AM
2nd because Khan would have wanted a point guard regardless of the context.

Sandman
06-25-2011, 03:13 AM
He might have went #1 or 2 that year but there were questions about whether he'd come over.

He's probably a better prospect than Irving or Knight, but Rubio is probably more risky than Irving. I'd put him in between but with the potential to be the best of the 3.

AnalyzeNShoot
06-25-2011, 03:21 AM
All this hype, I want to see how good this guy is really now.

Wolves have a good young core, Rubio can have any complain about not enuff help.

He better show what hes made of.

GREATNESS ONE
06-25-2011, 03:26 AM
top 3 most likely and definitely not out the top5

Davidgta1
06-25-2011, 03:32 AM
Round 2 pick 57 lol no #2

Lake_Show2416
06-25-2011, 03:48 AM
Barcelona

LakersIn5
06-25-2011, 04:15 AM
no.1.

AI4MVP
06-25-2011, 04:17 AM
Number 1. No doubt.

Thank God he wasnt in this draft class cuz i do not want my boy playin for the cavs

b.mill
06-25-2011, 04:51 AM
The same team he actually got drafted by

sf-fanatic
06-25-2011, 04:57 AM
Probably right after Irving and Williams

DoJoTheSlasher
06-25-2011, 05:00 AM
Top 3 without a doubt.

dodie53
06-25-2011, 08:14 AM
no. 1

Mplsman
06-25-2011, 08:43 AM
Number 1, without a doubt. If you look back on the mocks from '09 he was listed as the number 2 prospect behind Blake Griffin all year. His buyout contract is why teams let him fall... Big mistake.

Thabeet #2 over Rubio that year? :facepalm: WOW.

Sly Guy
06-25-2011, 08:51 AM
more rubio hype?

I guess the answer depends on when you're judging him, the player who was selected #5 a few years back in comparison to the draft class this year, or that player plus his recent performances in euro-league compared to this year's class.

If it's the first of those 2 cases, he goes #1, def no lower than #2.

If it's the second, then things become sketchy. I personally wouldn't have taken him ahead of irving, williams, or kanter, but I feel he might have slipped even further in my books.

Kyben36
06-25-2011, 08:55 AM
number 8 at least, Kemba walker looks beter then him at this point, people need to realize he had a terrible year this year for Barcelona, and his stats arnt great, He isnt athletic to get to the hoop, he doesnt shoot the ball well, He shot 39% last year and 38 the year before, which is terrible for the nba. Im just not impressed with him like I was when he came out.

topdog
06-25-2011, 09:15 AM
That was not a "strong" draft. Everyone referred to it as a weak draft at the time and in the context of having primarily one position available and "quality" over "star-power."

Rubio would be top 2. I'd pick him over Irving, but that's just me. Memphis couldn't pick him because of Pau/JC Navarro's bad experiences there, but they sure as heck could've traded him for something good.

Jsoul101
06-25-2011, 09:16 AM
#3 because the fact he wasn't able to come oversea maybe 4th or 5th like Jonas's current situation

PhillyFaninLA
06-25-2011, 09:16 AM
Early to mid second round at best.

topdog
06-25-2011, 09:25 AM
number 8 at least, Kemba walker looks beter then him at this point, people need to realize he had a terrible year this year for Barcelona, and his stats arnt great, He isnt athletic to get to the hoop, he doesnt shoot the ball well, He shot 39% last year and 38 the year before, which is terrible for the nba. Im just not impressed with him like I was when he came out.

The hype died... 2 years ago he was fresh off the Olympics and the hottest shiz since molten lava. Americans don't understand Euroleague and that's why there are spikes and drops with the top international talent. When we first hear about them, they are superstars in waiting, then, a year later they are an afterthought.

Examples: Montejuanas - last year = stud lottery pick / this year = 20 and falling...
Biyombo - just hit the consciousness, seen as a beast but could be Diop
Rubio - revolutionizing pointguarddom in '08 / unfit for the league in 2011
Bargnani - Dirk in... whenever the heck that was / 3 chucking softee nowadays

The facts that stats don't match and the style of play and development are different in Euroleague leads to greater rises and falls in international prospecthood.

mttwlsn16
06-25-2011, 09:34 AM
Number 1. No doubt.

Thank God he wasnt in this draft class cuz i do not want my boy playin for the cavs

lol rubio is giong to be garbage. u really rather have him over kyrie? the kid who avg 6ppg overseas, and who only played about 20mpg

lvlheaded
06-25-2011, 09:38 AM
Probably number 1

Mplsman
06-25-2011, 09:39 AM
lol rubio is giong to be garbage. u really rather have him over kyrie? the kid who avg 6ppg overseas, and who only played about 20mpg

And Kyrie has done what exactly to indicate that he is better? :facepalm:

Kyben36
06-25-2011, 09:54 AM
The hype died... 2 years ago he was fresh off the Olympics and the hottest shiz since molten lava. Americans don't understand Euroleague and that's why there are spikes and drops with the top international talent. When we first hear about them, they are superstars in waiting, then, a year later they are an afterthought.

Examples: Montejuanas - last year = stud lottery pick / this year = 20 and falling...
Biyombo - just hit the consciousness, seen as a beast but could be Diop
Rubio - revolutionizing pointguarddom in '08 / unfit for the league in 2011
Bargnani - Dirk in... whenever the heck that was / 3 chucking softee nowadays

The facts that stats don't match and the style of play and development are different in Euroleague leads to greater rises and falls in international prospecthood.

I know, I meant at max, I just dont see him making it in the nba, great tallent, but with the athletism in the nba, he will never be able to use craftiness to get to the hoop, and he will not be able to shoot the 3 when he cant even shoot in Europe.

assisi805
06-25-2011, 09:59 AM
I guess it would depend on if he had a year like before he got drafted or a year like the one he had this year gone by... That would surly drop is stock but in this weaker draft it would still be a safe top 5.

ddouble
06-25-2011, 10:04 AM
2nd because Khan would have wanted a point guard regardless of the context.

wow it's been this long and you people still believe kahn drafted 4 pg's that year......wow #1(rubio) we knew wouldnt come over right away. #2(flynn) to play til rubio comes, #3(lawson) deal made b4 the pick was made- made for denver, #4(ellington) 2 guard - don't generalize your hate toward my team---- come up with some fresh & new hate!

Hawkeye15
06-25-2011, 10:07 AM
Top 3 in this years draft

ddouble
06-25-2011, 10:07 AM
and kyrie has done what exactly to indicate that he is better? :facepalm:

thank you ....

kenzo400
06-25-2011, 10:19 AM
[QUOTE=topdog;18376081]
Bargnani - Dirk in... whenever the heck that was / 3 chucking softee nowadays

QUOTE]

You obviously haven't been watching Bargnani play. He has shot the least number of threes this year in his whole NBA carrer. He has a pretty good drive to the basket. He is mainly criticized because of his defense, or lack there of.

theheatles
06-25-2011, 10:56 AM
somewhere from 5-8 maybe bottom of lottery...rubio was drafted 5th when he was 18 and the nba drafts on potential...since he was drafted, his stock plummeted, so as a 20 yr old he surely drops...he showed no growth in his game and didn't refine any skills...rubio is a poor mans rondo, at best, AT BEST

Witness06
06-25-2011, 11:05 AM
WTF!!!! R u people talking about 1 or 2?????????WTF, Based on his recent play over the last two years ( which has declined and his injury) the guy avg like 6 points in EUROPE. He would have gone After Norris Cole in this weak draft

twolves9
06-25-2011, 07:05 PM
Top 5 no doubt, stop hatin on ricky for a bad year, the euro game isnt the same as here, also barca ran a strict half court offense which didnt really allow him to create. i would have takin him over kyrie who played in 11 games

tyfreaks brotha
06-25-2011, 07:14 PM
He would go number two no doubt

saucy1
06-25-2011, 07:16 PM
maybe back then but its pretty clear he s a bust .Write it down rubio is weak.thank u guys 4 taking him and flynn over curry lol

twolves9
06-25-2011, 07:17 PM
maybe back then but its pretty clear he s a bust .Write it down rubio is weak

So his play against the US in the olympics was just a fluke

Il Mago50
06-25-2011, 07:20 PM
If it's the Rubio that's playing in Spain now and not the hyped 19 year old Rubio, then top 10. If it's the hyped Rubio, then top 3.

gaughan333
06-25-2011, 07:22 PM
Most likely 1, definitely by 3.

The 916 Guy
06-25-2011, 07:23 PM
Maybe #1, definitely top 3. Ricky Rubio still has a crazy amount of hype and I think the Cavaliers would have went for it.

Sandman
06-25-2011, 07:26 PM
He might have been #3 on the board behind Irving and Williams, but I don't know if he would have went #3 he could have dropped like Knight.

saucy1
06-25-2011, 07:35 PM
are you guys smoking bay area sticky the guy hasnt done a thing in 2 years.

theheatles
06-25-2011, 08:00 PM
rubio makes kyrie look buff

toovey107
06-25-2011, 08:05 PM
Rubio is the most overhyped player I've seen in a long time.

The guy has great vision and passing skills, but he has no jumper, isn't strong, and is going to get railed defensively.

Kobes a Killer
06-25-2011, 08:10 PM
#1

Kobes a Killer
06-25-2011, 08:11 PM
are you guys smoking bay area sticky the guy hasnt done a thing in 2 years.

lol

The Best Around
06-25-2011, 08:39 PM
So his play against the US in the olympics was just a fluke

Carlos Arroyo tore up Team USA....just saying.

I really don't know how good Rubio will be. I feel like he will have an "ok" rookie year and it'll generate more arguing with some saying he is a bust, and others saying he just needs more time.

dtmagnet
06-25-2011, 08:40 PM
First overall.

blastmasta26
06-25-2011, 08:56 PM
If it was the Rubio of the '09 draft, probably first overall. Now that his hype has quieted down somewhat, I say top 3-5. Probably would go after Kanter since centers are rare.

oldfishermen
06-25-2011, 09:58 PM
According to hoopstats, for 2010-2011, Rubio was ranked #20 for all Euroleague point guards. Here is the link. http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/eurobasketball/euroleague/players/stats/11/rkg-1-1-1

2009/2010, Rubio was ranked #12. Link http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/eurobasketball/euroleague/players/stats/10/rkg-1-1-1


Not sure why there is so much Rubio hype?? He is not as good as many NBA fans believe he is. Everyone believes he makes up for his poor point production by setting other players up. If this were true, why are his assists totals so low? He averages around 4 assists per game, or less, most years. And he is not known to be a good jumper. And he is not fast on his feet.

Rubio is way overhyped. In this years weak draft, Rubio probably would not be picked in the first round by any team, except possible the Wolves when he turns 27.

KnicksR4Real
06-25-2011, 10:11 PM
1 or 2

Weezyana
06-25-2011, 10:31 PM
So his play against the US in the olympics was just a fluke

I didn't realize 6 points 3 assists 3 turnovers in 29 minutes was awe inspiring. Neither is 7 points 5 rebounds 3 assists 5 turnovers in 21 minutes (2010 world championships)

twolves9
06-25-2011, 10:39 PM
I didn't realize 6 points 3 assists 3 turnovers in 29 minutes was awe inspiring. Neither is 7 points 5 rebounds 3 assists 5 turnovers in 21 minutes (2010 world championships)

The fact that he was 17 and did it against the best in the world is

Weezyana
06-25-2011, 10:45 PM
The fact that he was 17 and did it against the best in the world is

Is the fact that he's shot 31% from 2 and 22% from 3 the last 2 seasons in Europe awe inspiring too?

twolves9
06-25-2011, 10:50 PM
i dont deny that he is a below average shooter, but a pass first pg doesnt need to shoot well

Evolution23
06-25-2011, 10:50 PM
Number 1. No doubt.

Thank God he wasnt in this draft class cuz i do not want my boy playin for the cavs

are u saying rubio is as good as Stockton and Magic?

Weezyana
06-25-2011, 10:54 PM
I honestly can't wait for this guy to play. He's going to be awful.

theheatles
06-26-2011, 12:02 AM
rubio sucked in the olympics, i think ppl get rubio and rudys performances mixed up because rudy was balling in the gold medal game for spain

rubios **** stats http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08/olym/men/teamPlay/play/p/competitioncode//eventid/4004/langid/1/langlc/en/playernumber/53827/roundid/4004/season//teamnumber/362/fe_teamPlay_playStat.html

rudy fernandez
http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08/olym/men/teamPlay/play/p/competitioncode//eventid/4004/langid/1/langlc/en/playernumber/36188/roundid/4004/season//teamnumber/362/fe_teamPlay_playStat.html

shep33
06-26-2011, 12:08 AM
Really #1? I don't think he's as good as Kyrie right now. I'd rather take Kyrie, Brandon Knight, or Kemba Walker over him.

John Walls Era
06-26-2011, 12:20 AM
I doubt the Raptors would've passed on him. TBH I dont think hes going to be good the next 2 years, but he has potential.

MrfadeawayJB
06-26-2011, 12:22 AM
top 3

Spacolie716
06-26-2011, 12:38 AM
anyone realize that the rockets now have the 2nd (Hasheem Thabeet), 6th (Jonny Flynn), 8th (Jordan Hill), 11th (Terrence Williams), used to have the 27th (DeMare Carroll), and 44th (Chase Budinger) pick in that same 09 draft?

king4day
06-26-2011, 02:21 AM
Given how much he dropped in production, i coulda seen him go 5-10

Bunta
06-26-2011, 02:42 AM
First.

LA_Raiders
06-26-2011, 02:58 AM
#1, that kid is real good

NBA-GMaster
06-26-2011, 03:06 AM
2nd..

Weezyana
06-26-2011, 03:17 AM
#1, that kid is real good

Then you've never seen him play

KingPosey
06-26-2011, 03:46 AM
Sure this draft is week, but Rubio's stock has PLUMMETED. I would be suprised if he was picked in the top 15-20, and Im serious. That kid is a dud.

KingPosey
06-26-2011, 03:47 AM
Ita amazing all of you saying 1-5. You guys obviously havent been paying REAL attention to what has been going on with this kid overseas.

koreancabbage
06-26-2011, 06:57 AM
top 3 most likely and definitely not out the top5

funny, that's almost what was said of Brandon Knight...:rolleyes:

topdog
06-26-2011, 07:14 AM
[QUOTE=topdog;18376081]
Bargnani - Dirk in... whenever the heck that was / 3 chucking softee nowadays

QUOTE]

You obviously haven't been watching Bargnani play. He has shot the least number of threes this year in his whole NBA carrer. He has a pretty good drive to the basket. He is mainly criticized because of his defense, or lack there of.

I'm talking perception and how it changes quickly especially with Euroleaguers. Sportswriters tell us to be excited so it doesn't matter that Euroleague stats are far lower, then; we wait awhile, look at stats, scrutinize games and come back a year later thinking they're a dud. "Softee" was supposed to cover a lack of defense and rebounding.