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KB24PG16
06-23-2011, 10:05 PM
Mavs are trading No. 26 to Portland to acquire Rudy Fernandez, with Portland moving the pick on to Denver in the Miller/Felton deal.


Mavs' trade with Portland, sources say, also includes the No. 57 pick going to Blazers for rights to 2007 draftee Petteri Koponen

http://twitter.com/#!/STEIN_LINE_HQ

Shareeb_omac2
06-23-2011, 10:07 PM
Title says "Hernandez"

210Don
06-23-2011, 10:07 PM
wow great deal for the mavs

LTBaByyy
06-23-2011, 10:08 PM
Hernandez???? haha

MacFitz92
06-23-2011, 10:08 PM
Hernandez? Lol.

CBCable
06-23-2011, 10:09 PM
26 for rudy? hell yes

KB24PG16
06-23-2011, 10:09 PM
my bad on the spelling sorry i was typin quick

KB24PG16
06-23-2011, 10:10 PM
lol sorry guys

WVNowitzki
06-23-2011, 10:11 PM
Typing fast? Dude you weren't even close.

Swashcuff
06-23-2011, 10:11 PM
The best just got better. Can't help but love Mark Cuban, man's a genius. Sigh

Shahrose
06-23-2011, 10:11 PM
wow great trade for the Mavs

KB24PG16
06-23-2011, 10:13 PM
Rudy Fernandez going to Dallas as part of Denver-Portland deal

http://twitter.com/#!/daldridgetnt

MacFitz92
06-23-2011, 10:14 PM
Bye bye to Peja/DS

Kidd
Rudy
Butler
Nowitzki
Chandler

With Roddy, Terry, Haywood, Marion off the bench. Wow.

dodie53
06-23-2011, 10:15 PM
wtf?
why would portland do that?

ChI_ShIzzLe
06-23-2011, 10:15 PM
Holy ****.

Shareeb_omac2
06-23-2011, 10:15 PM
I used to always trade for Fernandez when I used the Mavs in 2k... Next year I won't have to lol.

KB24PG16
06-23-2011, 10:16 PM
Mavs' trade with Portland, sources say, also includes the No. 57 pick going to Blazers for rights to 2007 draftee Petteri Koponen.

Shahrose
06-23-2011, 10:17 PM
Bye bye to Peja/DS

Kidd
Rudy
Butler
Nowitzki
Chandler

With Roddy, Terry, Haywood, Marion off the bench. Wow.

2-peat?

LTBaByyy
06-23-2011, 10:18 PM
The Mavs have soooooooo much talent

dodie53
06-23-2011, 10:19 PM
great trade imo

dodie53
06-23-2011, 10:19 PM
can the mavs adopt nash?
hehe

Slimsim
06-23-2011, 10:21 PM
Cuban is a god how does he pull of these trades

Panthers4life
06-23-2011, 10:21 PM
Bye bye to Peja/DS

Kidd
Rudy
Butler
Nowitzki
Chandler

With Roddy, Terry, Haywood, Marion off the bench. Wow.

also jj barea if they can resign him. if he comes back. your bench is as good as at least 10 teams starting 5. that is a wow
:clap:

MacFitz92
06-23-2011, 10:22 PM
2-peat?

It's very well a possibility. A long offseason, season, and playoffs still await us.

sventhedog
06-23-2011, 10:22 PM
they finally have a sg.

BradyIsTheMan12
06-23-2011, 10:25 PM
Good luck, I hope Rudy works out better for you guys than he did for us. He's got potential, but he is a total head-case.

tyfreaks brotha
06-23-2011, 10:25 PM
Did Fernandez get better the last season? Cuz just the last few seasons wasn't he unwanted?

SpeeMN
06-23-2011, 10:26 PM
WTF? Wolves should have traded the #23 for Rudy!! WTF??? Ricky Rubio must be very confused right now. We needed a SG and Rudy was the one to get. Cuban is the best owner in all of professional sports, no joke, no homo.

tyfreaks brotha
06-23-2011, 10:26 PM
I used to always trade for Fernandez when I used the Mavs in 2k... Next year I won't have to lol.

Lol

drobe86
06-23-2011, 10:27 PM
I'm not so high on this as other Mavs fans... Rudy Fernandez showed me absolutely nothing last 2 years or so.. And he did nothing when we played them in the playoffs this season. I was a lot more excited about getting Jordan Hamilton... Anybody know anything about the Euro Portland drafted in '07?

BradyIsTheMan12
06-23-2011, 10:28 PM
I'm not so high on this as other Mavs fans... Rudy Fernandez showed me absolutely nothing last 2 years or so.. And he did nothing when we played them in the playoffs this season. I was a lot more excited about getting Jordan Hamilton... Anybody know anything about the Euro Portland drafted in '07?

Kopponen has wanted to come over, but we didn't want him to. He's ok, but doesn't really have a position.

drobe86
06-23-2011, 10:31 PM
Kopponen has wanted to come over, but we didn't want him to. He's ok, but doesn't really have a position.


Is he a big?

jollyoscars
06-23-2011, 10:34 PM
Is he a big?

Google his name! lol

BradyIsTheMan12
06-23-2011, 10:35 PM
Is he a big?

Koponen is a combo-guard.

KB24PG16
06-23-2011, 10:37 PM
blazers also get the 57th pick

heyman321
06-23-2011, 10:38 PM
Wow seriously, Cuban is a god at pulling trades off. Getting Chandler from nothing, getting Marion from nothing, and now this.

shep33
06-23-2011, 10:38 PM
I'm not so high on this as other Mavs fans... Rudy Fernandez showed me absolutely nothing last 2 years or so.. And he did nothing when we played them in the playoffs this season. I was a lot more excited about getting Jordan Hamilton... Anybody know anything about the Euro Portland drafted in '07?

I think its a good deal, but your also right in that he hasn't showed much over the past couple seasons.

GSPftw
06-23-2011, 10:40 PM
Rudy had a terrible year and wanted out of Portland anyway after they dangled him as trade bait so many times.

KingPosey
06-23-2011, 10:41 PM
I always thought Rudy was a little "over valued", but ****, a Mid 20s draft pick? Good deal for the Mavs imo.

Rudy is not a game changer that he was made out to be a couple years ago, but he can do a lot of things. I personally think he was unhappy in Portland. He wanted to be the man at his position, but he just isnt that guy. Hopefully he grows in his ROLE in Dallas.

GREATNESS ONE
06-23-2011, 10:42 PM
Great trade for Dallas and Portland.

northsider
06-23-2011, 10:42 PM
What a ****ing steal man.

shep33
06-23-2011, 10:43 PM
Hamilton is gonna be pretty good I think, he slid way too much. Both teams make out right though. Dallas gets a vet in Fernandez who can give them offense, and Portland gets a guy who can maybe succeed Brandon Roy.

drobe86
06-23-2011, 10:45 PM
I think its a good deal, but your also right in that he hasn't showed much over the past couple seasons.


True that.... The Mavs do have a way getting guys to step up their games. Tyson Chandler looked pretty bad with the Bobcats as well, as did Marion with the Heat and Raptors. The Mavs have a much faster up tempo style than Portland does as well and maybe that could help. I really liked the size and scoring ability of Hamilton though... I hope this doesn't come back to bite us.....

AlexTmz2
06-23-2011, 10:46 PM
Thats a solid move by the Mavs. I was always a big fan of Fernandez.

shep33
06-23-2011, 10:53 PM
True that.... The Mavs do have a way getting guys to step up their games. Tyson Chandler looked pretty bad with the Bobcats as well, as did Marion with the Heat and Raptors. The Mavs have a much faster up tempo style than Portland does as well and maybe that could help. I really liked the size and scoring ability of Hamilton though... I hope this doesn't come back to bite us.....

Yeah I'm a Longhorns fan, and I love Hamilton. Guy can score anywhere on the court, unreal rebounder too. But if the Mavs want to repeat, I think Fernandez is the better choice.

Basically... long term= Hamilton, short term=Rudy

Hopefully your right about Rudy, cause he has been awful the past 2 years. 37% shooting over the past 2 seasons. Maybe it was just his situation though, who knows. I think he'll play better though.

RaidersLakers24
06-23-2011, 11:06 PM
While dallas is getting better the lakers aren't doing **** smh do something Mitch!!

LTBaByyy
06-23-2011, 11:11 PM
@rudy5fernandez: thanks all blazers fans for ur support this 3 years!! So happy to be in the best team in the nba!!!dallas!!!

:dance:

PhillyFan001
06-23-2011, 11:12 PM
Wait so not only did they get rudy but they got the draft rights to the next jkidd, By the way rudy has wanted out the blazers got the best the could so they did it

FuriousJatt
06-23-2011, 11:15 PM
damn the lakers needed a player like him, and mavs got him cheap

NetsPaint
06-23-2011, 11:16 PM
The Mavs organization is great.

LTBaByyy
06-23-2011, 11:17 PM
Rudy is happy being traded to the Mavs!!!!

I expect him to play amazing

KingPosey
06-23-2011, 11:32 PM
Rudy comes from an overseas basketball background. I think the Mavs tempo, and team oriented offense will benefit a guy like Rudy.

TRF929
06-23-2011, 11:38 PM
All I can say is the Mavs better hope the new CBA doesn't do anything about a hard cap, otherwise I don't see them deep in the playoffs.

Good trade though

Most important signing though is Chandler, hope to God he stays there or able to stay there. Without him no chance on going back to finals

urlachermess
06-23-2011, 11:41 PM
All I can say is the Mavs better hope the new CBA doesn't do anything about a hard cap, otherwise I don't see them deep in the playoffs.

Good trade though

Most important signing though is Chandler, hope to God he stays there or able to stay there. Without him no chance on going back to finals

dirk?

LTBaByyy
06-23-2011, 11:43 PM
All I can say is the Mavs better hope the new CBA doesn't do anything about a hard cap, otherwise I don't see them deep in the playoffs.

Good trade though

Most important signing though is Chandler, hope to God he stays there or able to stay there. Without him no chance on going back to finals

As long as we have Dirk we will always have a chance!!! lol

And Haywood plays good WHEN HE STARTS!!!!

So I am not worried, we got a championship so Chandler can come back or go hahaha

3ballbomber
06-23-2011, 11:49 PM
Sounds like a good acquisition for Mavs. i hope he steps up!

John Walls Era
06-23-2011, 11:55 PM
Mavs forum. Rudy has done nothing the last year.

drobe86
06-24-2011, 12:02 AM
Mavs forum. Rudy has done nothing the last year.

I agree with you, but the Mavs have a way of bringing out the best in guys. People said the same things about Tyson Chandler and Shawn Marion. And those are the 2 guys that were the difference in our team going home in the first round and winning a championship. Ultimately this is a good trade because it's a mid 20's pick. But me personally I would have rather kept Hamilton and seen what the kid can do. I guy like that has no business falling to you at pick 26. This guy was the 10th best player overall on Jay Bilas' big board....

John Walls Era
06-24-2011, 12:04 AM
I agree with you, but the Mavs have a way of bringing out the best in guys. People said the same things about Tyson Chandler and Shawn Marion. And those are the 2 guys that were the difference in our team going home in the first round and winning a championship. Ultimately this is a good trade because it's a mid 20's pick. But me personally I would have rather kept Hamilton and seen what the kid can do. I guy like that has no business falling to you at pick 26. This guy was the 10th best player overall on Jay Bilas' big board....

A smart Mavs fan. Someone who provides evidence and facts because they know bball instead of attacking the user (those who show ignorance and stupidity).

BradyIsTheMan12
06-24-2011, 12:05 AM
Difference between Rudy and Tyson/Marion is that Rudy has never been even close to their level. It's not really the same thing.

John Walls Era
06-24-2011, 12:06 AM
So was Tyson Chandler when we got him.. And so was Shawn Marion... And Stevenson... And Peja... Care to explain why these players just all of a sudden woke up one day and we were champions?:rolleyes: If you stop hating for a second and look at it for what it is you'll see the brilliance of the Mavs braintrust...

Read my response to you. I agree with you

LTBaByyy
06-24-2011, 12:09 AM
How many 3pt shootes will the Mavs get!!!! :)

Everyone on the Mavs roster can shoot 3's except the 3 centers

Love this team

MrfadeawayJB
06-24-2011, 12:10 AM
Brilliant move....he is a much better version of Peja

drobe86
06-24-2011, 12:12 AM
Difference between Rudy and Tyson/Marion is that Rudy has never been even close to their level. It's not really the same thing.


His first year he took the league by storm. (relatively). And the more I look at him statistically the more intrigued I am. I hope this is a situation where he just needs a change of scenery. He'll have an opportunity to start here. I think we'll be ok but we have to sign back Stevenson and Caron Butler. Stevenson is deadly from 3 and Caron is one of the toughest players in the league. He'll come back with a vengeance.


Kidd
Fernandez
Butler
Dirk
Chandler

Bench
Barea/Roddy Beaubois/Nick Calathes
Deshawn Stevenson/Corey Brewer/Dominique Jones
Marion
Marion/Cardinal
Haywood/Mahinmi


We're the deepest team in the league and EVERY single player on our team can play. We've got a real shot at starting a 3 peat..

Crackadalic
06-24-2011, 12:12 AM
And the rich gets richer.

BradyIsTheMan12
06-24-2011, 12:13 AM
He should improve upon last season, not saying otherwise...but tempering expectations is probably smart with this guy. He's burned us bad the last two years, though the potential is there.

cowboyz180
06-24-2011, 12:16 AM
I am not sure how I feel about this trade... I was ecstatic when Dallas picked Hamilton... Hopefully Fernandez thrives in his role with the Mavs.

Swashcuff
06-24-2011, 12:17 AM
Brilliant move....he is a much better version of Peja

Actually he's nothing like Peja and hopefully the Mavs realise that. The reason he was so underwhelming with Portland was because of the fact that he was being used wrongly. They wanted him to be the spot up shooter type which is not his best attribute. He's a fantastic ball handler and capable at creating his shot on his own. Once used in the right capacity (which I believe he will be) he can be a 14, 4 and 3 guy for them IMO. Solid pick up for the Mavs.

Swashcuff
06-24-2011, 12:18 AM
And the rich gets richer.

:nod:

Hellcrooner
06-24-2011, 05:35 AM
as long as coach realizes he is not jason kapono or steve kerr........( wich nate mcmillan never came to realize) and not use it as a spot up 3p shooter.......

if he is used the right way, alowign him to create game, to handle, to start play, to drive in and dunk he can be a very solid adition to the team

15 5 and 5

Swashcuff
06-24-2011, 08:58 AM
as long as coach realizes he is not jason kapono or steve kerr........( wich nate mcmillan never came to realize) and not use it as a spot up 3p shooter.......

if he is used the right way, alowign him to create game, to handle, to start play, to drive in and dunk he can be a very solid adition to the team

15 5 and 5

:nod:

Heediot
06-24-2011, 09:06 AM
So was Tyson Chandler when we got him.. And so was Shawn Marion... And Stevenson... And Peja... Care to explain why these players just all of a sudden woke up one day and we were champions?:rolleyes: If you stop hating for a second and look at it for what it is you'll see the brilliance of the Mavs braintrust...

Tyson Chandler was solid when you got him. The problem with him was staying on the floor and injuries may have slowed him minorly when he was on the court.

Rudy Fernandez will be a very good pick up for the Mavs.

YoungOne
06-24-2011, 09:15 AM
should be easier for us now to get stevenson :)

dnewguy
06-24-2011, 10:57 AM
Overrated player, Mavs didnt get better, they got worse. They are now poised to lose one of their best defenders on Lebron for what? Fernandez? Looks more like a first round exit next year.

BcEuAbRsS
06-24-2011, 11:39 AM
Overrated player, Mavs didnt get better, they got worse. They are now poised to lose one of their best defenders on Lebron for what? Fernandez? Looks more like a first round exit next year.

Nah... Jason Kidd will still be there :D

valade16
06-24-2011, 12:22 PM
Overrated player, Mavs didnt get better, they got worse. They are now poised to lose one of their best defenders on Lebron for what? Fernandez? Looks more like a first round exit next year.

I agree he's overrated if you seriously think he's goin to get 15, 5 and 5.

He's slow off the dribble and on his heels on D. His shot is about as hit or miss as it gets.

He can be a decent player on a team, but expecting that kind of production is setting yourself up for failure...

MacFitz92
06-24-2011, 12:39 PM
Overrated player, Mavs didnt get better, they got worse. They are now poised to lose one of their best defenders on Lebron for what? Fernandez? Looks more like a first round exit next year.

I'm not sure how you can say giving up the 26th pick for Rudy Fernandez turns the championship team into "first round exit" next year. I've never heard of that.. I guess everyone's entitled to their opinion.

dnewguy
06-24-2011, 12:44 PM
I'm not sure how you can say giving up the 26th pick for Rudy Fernandez turns the championship team into "first round exit" next year. I've never heard of that.. I guess everyone's entitled to their opinion.

This is similar to the Lakers adding Steve Blake and Matt Barnes. Both were overrated additions that ended up costing them. The Mavs will get swept in the first round next year, and write this down, they will struggle to make the play-offs.

The Final Boss
06-24-2011, 12:53 PM
my bad on the spelling sorry i was typin quick


'cause you're one of the thousand of insecure posters on PSD who bask in being a 'news breaker'.

Hate to say it about a fellow-countryman; but Rudy is an average G.

Silent
06-24-2011, 12:58 PM
This is similar to the Lakers adding Steve Blake and Matt Barnes. Both were overrated additions that ended up costing them. The Mavs will get swept in the first round next year, and write this down, they will struggle to make the play-offs.

Delete your account allready

Avenged
06-24-2011, 01:09 PM
Not so sure why everyone is overrating Rudy here.. He's declined in producing efficiently as the seasons have gone by.

But for what the Mavs gave up, I say it's a solid trade for them. Just not sure why everyone is expecting so much from him. 3 point shooting? The guys gotten worse every year he's been in the league at that.

shep33
06-24-2011, 01:30 PM
I think it was a great trade for both teams. Portland adds a shooter and scorer in Felton, which is great cause nobody can hit an outside shot for them. Mavs get Fernandez, who has played pretty awful the past 2 years, but may be looking to get rejuvenated.

Solid trade for both teams. No rookie was gonna help the Mavs this year, maybe Hamilton a bit, but he would've been more long-term.

DoJoTheSlasher
06-24-2011, 01:35 PM
For one thing, Rudy is better than Stevenson even though Defense is better than offense. Rudy HATED Portland. Now he's on a contending team who is fresh off a championship. He can start at the 2 and maybe average up to 10 a game. VERY Hot and Cold player but that can change.

Also, adding a 26 year old veteran who is a good player over a 20 year old rookie for a team with it's key players all over 33 besides Chandler is great. Hamilton would have helped us in 4 years, not now.

sixer04fan
06-24-2011, 01:52 PM
This is similar to the Lakers adding Steve Blake and Matt Barnes. Both were overrated additions that ended up costing them. The Mavs will get swept in the first round next year, and write this down, they will struggle to make the play-offs.

Would you like to make a bet?

John Walls Era
06-24-2011, 01:53 PM
Overrated player, Mavs didnt get better, they got worse. They are now poised to lose one of their best defenders on Lebron for what? Fernandez? Looks more like a first round exit next year.

Obviously. Only homers fail to see that. Not to mention people who don't know bball.

jiggin
06-24-2011, 02:20 PM
he lives and dies by the 3.

this will be his last year in the NBA...he has been "home sick" since after his rookie season in the NBA.

He is a solid bench player if you need someone to help spread the defense...but he has been a MAJOR disappointment in POR...and I am glad the blazers were able to do something with him...if nothing else, give his bench spot up to a more consistent producer off the bench and clear that 3+ million salary for a bench player.

I think a lot of you Mavs fans are WAY overrating him. He has not been anything special since his rookie season.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Rudy-Fernandez-22/stats/

OUbigdaddy
06-24-2011, 02:42 PM
Overrated player, Mavs didnt get better, they got worse. They are now poised to lose one of their best defenders on Lebron for what? Fernandez? Looks more like a first round exit next year.

Holy crap you are such a little punk!!! All you ever do is trash the Mav's. The same mav's team that punked the Heat!! Get over your self. The Mav's are poised, if they can sign Chandler, Berea and Butler, to repeat. Face it the Heat are a great tem, but the Mav's are a greater team!!! :facepalm:

LTBaByyy
06-24-2011, 03:02 PM
Dnewguy and John Walls Era are brothers yall

Seriously, dont take them seriously! Someone told me they will plan to bash everyting Mavs related after we won the title

LTBaByyy
06-24-2011, 03:10 PM
Would you like to make a bet?

Dnewguy is the last person you want to bet with

He was supposed to delete his account already and didnt live up to his word

Sadds The Gr8
06-24-2011, 03:12 PM
delete your account allready

+1

BkOriginalOne
06-24-2011, 03:20 PM
All they need to do now is resign barea and Chandler and get one more PG.

DoJoTheSlasher
06-24-2011, 03:27 PM
Obviously. Only homers fail to see that. Not to mention people who don't know bball.

It's obvious that we're going to get swept in the first round? The best team in the NBA is going to have a hard time getting to the playoffs and get swept in the 1st round? Fernandez is a good player. He can hit the 3 easily and is a great athlete. He hated Portland and now has a chance to start over on the best team in the NBA.

Stop hating you closet Heat fan.

Corey
06-24-2011, 03:29 PM
Dnewguy is the last person you want to bet with

He was supposed to delete his account already and didnt live up to his word

I dont think there is a deactivation option for accounts here.

LTBaByyy
06-24-2011, 03:31 PM
You win a championship and people still hating haha

It went from yall choke and will never win a championship

NOW its yall only won one championship, yall never do it again



Lol I love Dnewguy and John Walls Era, makes me look forward to coming to PSD every day

Atleast 210Don stopped bashing the Mavs when we won

The Embassy
06-24-2011, 03:36 PM
he's a horrible basketball player. not a terrible trade though b/c they got jordan hamilton.

DoJoTheSlasher
06-24-2011, 03:37 PM
It's funny because Fernandez would be one of their 6 or 7 best players.

LeBron
Wade
Bosh
Haslem
Chalmers
Fernandez

On our team, he will start but he is still like our 9th or 10th best player.

Darrell Russell
06-24-2011, 03:39 PM
I agree with you, but the Mavs have a way of bringing out the best in guys.

Uh, no they dont.


People said the same things about Tyson Chandler and Shawn Marion.

No they didn't. Tyson was injured with the bobcats, and this past season was nothing above what he did with the hornets, he actually put up some better numbers with the hornets. Also Shawn marion put up better numbers with the raptors just two years ago.



.......................

Darrell Russell
06-24-2011, 03:41 PM
he's a horrible basketball player. not a terrible trade though b/c they got jordan hamilton.

Exactly, he just flat out sucks.

Mplsman
06-24-2011, 03:41 PM
I wish the Wolves would have picked him up for # 20.

DoJoTheSlasher
06-24-2011, 03:44 PM
.......................

JJ Barea torched Miami
Stevenson was a great defender in the Finals
Tyson Chandler was a top 3 defensive player in the NBA this year


STFU hater.

Darrell Russell
06-24-2011, 03:44 PM
I wish the Wolves would have picked him up for # 20.

How is rudy any better than martell?

Darrell Russell
06-24-2011, 03:45 PM
JJ Barea torched Miami
Stevenson was a great defender in the Finals
Tyson Chandler was a top 3 defensive player in the NBA this year


STFU hater.

Stop letting your emotions get the best of you woman.

LTBaByyy
06-24-2011, 03:47 PM
@Mplsman

Melo started the #7 trend!!!!!

D Will will wear #7, I see a lot of players wearing that number in the upcoming years

LTBaByyy
06-24-2011, 03:48 PM
How is rudy any better than martell?

Rudy is the reason Martell was traded to the Wolves haha

If they didnt have Rudy he will still be on the Blazers

Darrell Russell
06-24-2011, 03:50 PM
Rudy is the reason Martell was traded to the Wolves haha

If they didnt have Rudy he will still be on the Blazers

So that makes rudy better? I guess troy hambrick was better than emmitt smith too

Darrell Russell
06-24-2011, 03:57 PM
Dear Mavs fans and any other NBA fan with a brain, an understand of the game and an understand of how to judge value.

Darrell Russell is a troll whose main purpose in life is to hate on players without a basic understand of the game of basketball. Please do not attempt to engage in any form of logical sensible NBA related discussion with him or else it will result in you wanting to hurt him if you ever meet that sorry excuse for a poster. Thank you. That is all.

How exactly is rudy better than martell or even a good player?

Swashcuff
06-24-2011, 03:57 PM
It's funny because Fernandez would be one of their 6 or 7 best players.

LeBron
Wade
Bosh
Haslem
Chalmers
Fernandez

On our team, he will start but he is still like our 9th or 10th best player.

I would put Mike Miller ahead of him as well.

kikeyanez
06-24-2011, 03:58 PM
the mavs just got better,good trade

LTBaByyy
06-24-2011, 04:00 PM
Rudy wont be an all star, we are not saying that

but he will be a great player, especially in the Mavs system uptempo

Blazers half court game is not for Rudy. And Kidd, Butler (resigned) or Marion will guard the best opposing player so I am not stressing if we lose Stevenson

The Embassy
06-24-2011, 04:04 PM
what exactly is rudy fernandez good at again? http://www.hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=Rudy%20Fernandez

16-23 38% 10-15 25% 3-9 24% at the rim 63%, but i'm sure if that increased his %'s would drop. A shooter who's 3 pt %'s somehow dropped each season. lol. I don't even want to mention the other aspects of his game, b/c anyone who watches the game knows how awful it is to watch the blazers offense when he enters.

flclfanman
06-24-2011, 05:27 PM
Bulls offer 2 picks for the guy pre-season? Blazers scoff at the deal

Mavs get the same dude for essentially nothing (garbage draft).

wtf man :facepalm:

Giantwarrior
06-24-2011, 05:45 PM
Fernandez is a great pick up, but he's a Head Case if he does not start.

Fargus
06-24-2011, 05:52 PM
You must be a Mavs fan who thinks Dallas is better than Los Angeles- when they clearly had locker room issues and would have won had thee refs not screwed them in games 1 and 2.

What part of sweep don't you understand?

TheRunKiller
06-24-2011, 08:44 PM
It's funny because Fernandez would be one of their 6 or 7 best players.

LeBron
Wade
Bosh
Haslem
Chalmers
Fernandez

On our team, he will start but he is still like our 9th or 10th best player.

I think Fernandez could be the 4th best player on Miami he's better than chalmers haslem bibby anyone they have on there bench.

Darrell Russell
06-24-2011, 08:53 PM
I think Fernandez could be the 4th best player on Miami he's better than chalmers haslem bibby anyone they have on there bench.

Yea, he is not better than haslem buddy.

LTBaByyy
06-24-2011, 08:56 PM
When Rudy is motivated and WANTS to play he is an amazing talent!!!!

This is low risk-high reward!!!!! His contract is amazing so I will take him easily

We pretty much added him for free!!!! Bc we didnt give anything up from a championship team

LTBaByyy
06-24-2011, 08:58 PM
And Rudy in a uptempo, fastbreak, shooting galore team will do good!!!! (Mavs)

He was in a Blazers system that is slow and half court

Darrell Russell
06-24-2011, 09:00 PM
When Rudy is motivated and WANTS to play he is an amazing talent!!!!

This is low risk-high reward!!!!! His contract is amazing so I will take him easily

We pretty much added him for free!!!! Bc we didnt give anything up from a championship team

Last time i checked rudy is a professional, he should be motivated and always want to play, the guy is getting paid to do so. The fact that you have to say "when he is motivated and wants to play" is a huge warning sign and shows immaturity. The excuses some guys get is ridiculous.

drobe86
06-25-2011, 01:04 AM
Rudy wont be an all star, we are not saying that

but he will be a great player, especially in the Mavs system uptempo

Blazers half court game is not for Rudy. And Kidd, Butler (resigned) or Marion will guard the best opposing player so I am not stressing if we lose Stevenson



We agree on alot but I really disagree with you here. Deshawn Stevenson was a very key cog in our championship run. I fully expect him to be back with the team. He's sound defensively and shot 57% from 3 in the finals. And he just brings a toughness edge to our team that will sorely be lacking if he doesn't resign... He's a baller

tp13baby
06-25-2011, 01:17 AM
I do like that Denver got Hamilton and a future second along with Miller. There was no room for Felton since he wanted to start...

Weezyana
06-25-2011, 02:18 AM
I can't believe all the excitement I'm seeing for acquiring a guy who shot 37% the last 2 seasons and is a head case. I would have kept Hamilton.

Hellcrooner
06-25-2011, 04:56 AM
'cause you're one of the thousand of insecure posters on PSD who bask in being a 'news breaker'.

Hate to say it about a fellow-countryman; but Rudy is an average G.

you are pissed that this trade has avoided that marca thing bout him signing with real madrid.:D

Hellcrooner
06-25-2011, 04:59 AM
Overrated player, Mavs didnt get better, they got worse. They are now poised to lose one of their best defenders on Lebron for what? Fernandez? Looks more like a first round exit next year.

if mavs are upset in first round next year ( wich can happen but is not likely....maybe second round) it will have to do with dirk being 34 kidd being one year older, chandler one year older, marion one year older etc etc.

b.mill
06-25-2011, 05:19 AM
Steal for Dallas

Darrell Russell
06-25-2011, 05:31 AM
Steal for Dallas

how so?

UKblazers
06-25-2011, 07:29 AM
LOL you guys cant be serious, this just proves the majority of fans only watch their team. The guy is a shooter who can't shoot, enjoy a lot of 1 for 8 and 2 for 9 games.

jp611
06-25-2011, 09:39 AM
This is similar to the Lakers adding Steve Blake and Matt Barnes. Both were overrated additions that ended up costing them. The Mavs will get swept in the first round next year, and write this down, they will struggle to make the play-offs.

:laugh:

uncleben989
06-25-2011, 10:26 AM
Would you like to make a bet?

lol making a bet with this guy?
this guy comes through with his promises like bronbron for cleveland

Bivory
06-25-2011, 10:37 AM
I don't get the excitment over Rudy. The guy hasn't made an impact on any team his entire NBA career. Portland has had more injuries than I can count and Rudy still can't find his niche. I don't want to hear "it's the system". If you can play, you can play. In my opinion, Dallas was finally able to get over the hump because they finally played D and got a lot tougher. Rudy doesn't help in either of those categories...Personally, the fac that Portland picked up Felton in this trade, makes them very dangerous...

LTBaByyy
06-25-2011, 12:26 PM
People are acting like the Mavs gave up so much for him

His contract is amazing and we got him for free!!!

We didnt give up anything of the championship team

assisi805
06-25-2011, 12:45 PM
Great deal by the mavs, he'll fit in nicely...

jason6692
06-25-2011, 01:06 PM
haters on psd
it was a nice pick up and relatively cheap
unless jordan hamilton winds up being very good
how can yu hate on this trade though ? mavs get guys and they fit in nice
nobody is forced to do anything they jus chip in and thats why we in
rudy can easily score 10-15 points and adds solid D and someone who can score
the blazers or a half court team thats not his system.

hugepatsfan
06-25-2011, 01:23 PM
I actually REALLY like Jordan Hamilton for the Mavs. I think he would have been an AWESOME fit. I would have kept him.

drobe86
06-25-2011, 01:33 PM
I actually REALLY like Jordan Hamilton for the Mavs. I think he would have been an AWESOME fit. I would have kept him.


While I like Hamilton and am inclined to agree with you. Hamilton wouldn't have played for the Mavs next season. With Butler coming back and Marion under contract, there's no chance he would have seen anytime. We have a logjam at the 2 and the 3..... Its a good trade because the Mavs are in win NOW mode....

jiggin
06-25-2011, 02:43 PM
haters on psd
it was a nice pick up and relatively cheap
unless jordan hamilton winds up being very good
how can yu hate on this trade though ? mavs get guys and they fit in nice
nobody is forced to do anything they jus chip in and thats why we in
rudy can easily score 10-15 points and adds solid D and someone who can score
the blazers or a half court team thats not his system.

Rudy is streaky. He lives and dies by the 3 and if he is off, he is worthless.

He doesn't play defense very well and he was HORRIBLE in the playoffs every year since he has been under contract.

He does have some upside...when he is hitting those three's, he helps spread the floor. He loves the run and gun offense, preferring that to slowing the floor down and running plays...so that may work out for the Mavs.

I am not sad that he is gone off the blazers, I am surprised that they did this without any proven back up for Brandon Roy and his obvious situation.

He is a bench player, nothing more, and he is on the final year of his contract. He misses home and has said many times over that he will be leaving the NBA and playing in Spain when his contract is up. Of course, that was under his past agent, which he has fired...so you never know. Maybe the Mavs can make him want to stay...but I think he is going to have to go against the statistical trend he is setting over his short career; which is a downward spiral right out of the NBA.

Not a steal, but for a pick and player + the little over 3 million he will be paid...its not horrible. But who will he replace and, looking at his starts, will he be an upgrade? Rudy's big thing in Portland was he wasn't a starter (thus why he says he can't get into a rhythm and be more consistent)...will he be with the Mavs?

UKblazers
06-25-2011, 02:57 PM
I am not sad that he is gone off the blazers, I am surprised that they did this without any proven back up for Brandon Roy and his obvious situation.



Wes Mathews ?

DoJoTheSlasher
06-25-2011, 03:10 PM
I don't get the excitment over Rudy. The guy hasn't made an impact on any team his entire NBA career. Portland has had more injuries than I can count and Rudy still can't find his niche. I don't want to hear "it's the system". If you can play, you can play. In my opinion, Dallas was finally able to get over the hump because they finally played D and got a lot tougher. Rudy doesn't help in either of those categories...Personally, the fac that Portland picked up Felton in this trade, makes them very dangerous...

Wasn't Portland supposed to be dangerous last year? And the year before? And the year before?

Yeah.... They aren't that good lol.

LTBaByyy
06-25-2011, 03:27 PM
People play better in playing styles suited for them

Rudy is not a player for a half court slow paced game, we all know that

He will have fun playing in the uptempo, fast break, shooting galore Mavs system

And he wasnt even happy in Blazers



I think we will be discussing how big of a trade this was for the Mavs next season


Just like no one thought Marion, Kidd (age), Chandler, Stevenson, Peja!!! , and even Brian Cardinal would produce for this team

But the way the Mavs play, people love being in that system

gatkins11
06-25-2011, 03:40 PM
For what Dallas gave up and what little money they took back, it seems to be a great trade.

DoJoTheSlasher
06-25-2011, 05:15 PM
This is similar to the Lakers adding Steve Blake and Matt Barnes. Both were overrated additions that ended up costing them. The Mavs will get swept in the first round next year, and write this down, they will struggle to make the play-offs.


Hey kind of like LeBron to Miami! Overrated addition that ended up costing Miami in the Finals.

JordansBulls
06-25-2011, 11:11 PM
Blazers wanted the kitchen sink from the Bulls.

Darrell Russell
06-26-2011, 01:54 AM
Just like no one thought Marion


Who? Marion put up the same numbers he has like the last 3 or 4 years, nothing more nothing less.

Kidd (age)


Once again who said he wouldnt?

Chandler


Chandler was injured on the bobcats, anyone with a brain knows when healthy and playing a lot of minutes he will put up a double double or close to it

Stevenson

Stevenson did what he did in washington, nothing more nothing less again.


Peja!!!

lol


and even Brian Cardinal would produce for this team

But the way the Mavs play, people love being in that system
..............................

jiggin
06-26-2011, 06:55 AM
Wes Mathews ?

Wes Mathews is the starter...at least I consider him the starter because that is what he did for a good half of the year...

...I consider BRoy the wildcard off the bench...but if he goes down, who spells Mathews? BRoy was averaging 23 minutes a game. Add that plus the 13 or so Rudy was getting and that is what you need to cover. Could Rudy cover that BRoy's minutes? Maybe, I mean some of those minutes he had last season were spelling BRoy.

But now...you put all that on Luke Babbitt??? I don't know about that. That doesn't sound like it will end well and I think most of us know BRoy will end up sitting out at some point in the season for "soreness"...its just a matter of how long the sit is.

I keep waiting for another move to produce a better solution at SG...but it seems more and more that they may be content moving Felton over to SG if they have to. The off-season is young though, so lots of changes could still unfold.

I hate the waiting game though...:D

jiggin
06-26-2011, 06:56 AM
Wasn't Portland supposed to be dangerous last year? And the year before? And the year before?

Yeah.... They aren't that good lol.

the POR roster is something to worry about...but they have been hit with injuries EVERY ONE of those years.

Unfortunate...some say very very unlucky...but whatever you call it, its been disappointing.

jiggin
06-26-2011, 07:02 AM
My question on this Rudy situation and contract is....


...if there is a lockout...and the season doesn't happen...does he walk to Spain and the Mavs end up with NOTHING...and gave away a couple players?

how does that work with contracts in lockout years? Is it possible that this is what the Blazers were banking on in trading away 2 players on 1 year contracts with a lockout looming? get something for these players before they can get nothing but cap space...?

ragee
06-26-2011, 08:50 AM
People play better in playing styles suited for them

Rudy is not a player for a half court slow paced game, we all know that

He will have fun playing in the uptempo, fast break, shooting galore Mavs system

And he wasnt even happy in Blazers



I think we will be discussing how big of a trade this was for the Mavs next season


Just like no one thought Marion, Kidd (age), Chandler, Stevenson, Peja!!! , and even Brian Cardinal would produce for this team

But the way the Mavs play, people love being in that system

I like both teams so I watch a lot of their games... Funny thing is that if you have not seen them play and just look at the age and the skill set of players of each player in each team, you would think the Mavs (older and less athletic) would be the one paying slow paced half court offense whie the Blazers (younger and the one with players who can jump like crazy) would be the one running the fastbreak playing an uptempo kind of basketball...

JordansBulls
06-26-2011, 08:57 AM
Is this guy going to start for them?

NINER/BLAZER
06-26-2011, 03:39 PM
My question on this Rudy situation and contract is....


...if there is a lockout...and the season doesn't happen...does he walk to Spain and the Mavs end up with NOTHING...and gave away a couple players?

how does that work with contracts in lockout years? Is it possible that this is what the Blazers were banking on in trading away 2 players on 1 year contracts with a lockout looming? get something for these players before they can get nothing but cap space...?

BINGO !! May as well get something for him, he was gone anyways. Yes it was a good trade for Mavs, no it wasnt a bad trade for Blazers. Blazers needed the trade to complete a more important trade. Win Win for both teams. Hopefully we meet again in the playoffs next year

TheRunKiller
06-26-2011, 03:45 PM
Hey kind of like LeBron to Miami! Overrated addition that ended up costing Miami in the Finals.

ouch

tkshy
06-26-2011, 05:28 PM
Did the Mavs just get better? Technically they added Fernandez and Butler to the team that won the championship.

Blazers#1Fan
06-26-2011, 05:57 PM
wtf?
why would portland do that?

Because he sucked for us and we got Raymond Felton who if wasn't traded would of had a boarderline allstar year I just wish we got Deshawn Stevenson in the trade he can hit the 3 and isn't as streaky as Rudy believe me Rudy is very very very inconsistent he takes bad shots doesn't know when to shoot the 3 and drives without caring if anybodys open around him(No Vision changed a big in the last year)

I will miss the guy on my team hope he improves in Dallas hopefully can become a top SG in the league

Me and my dad call him Sideways Fernandez because his face is not straight with his head which is pretty weird kinda looks like he had a stroke


(sorry to anybody who has or knows anybody that has had a stroke I didn't mean it in any kind of bad way just how he looks)


Pick Me! (Rudy Fernandez vote him into the dunk contest)

knicks_champ
06-26-2011, 06:45 PM
Did the Mavs just get better? Technically they added Fernandez and Butler to the team that won the championship.

That's how I'm seeing it. They really helped out the backcourt.

DoJoTheSlasher
06-26-2011, 06:50 PM
Did the Mavs just get better? Technically they added Fernandez and Butler to the team that won the championship.

Add Beaubois and the fact that if there is a partial season, all of our 30 year olds get that much more rest.

raidersrock99
06-26-2011, 06:51 PM
mavs are gonna be good

NBA_Starter
06-26-2011, 10:49 PM
Maybe he will show some interest playing in the Mavs.

Bunta
06-27-2011, 12:42 AM
They had a tough run for the title, it might be easier next year.

LTBaByyy
06-27-2011, 01:36 AM
The same championship team plus Butler, Fernandez, and Roddy B, MLE next season!!!!!!!

:speechless:

iggypop123
06-27-2011, 02:13 AM
Did the Mavs just get better? Technically they added Fernandez and Butler to the team that won the championship.

who says butler is gonna stay? he is a FA. dont know if he can stay cba pending. but this move does ensure barrea is gone. i think they will lowball him and watch him leave

gatkins11
06-27-2011, 02:18 AM
who says butler is gonna stay? he is a FA. dont know if he can stay cba pending. but this move does ensure barrea is gone. i think they will lowball him and watch him leave

Probably wishful thinking on your part. Don't get your hopes up too high.

TrueFan420
06-27-2011, 02:25 AM
Probably wishful thinking on your part. Don't get your hopes up too high.

you better hope its wishful thinking cause he was big for you guys (no pun intended)

AnalyzeNShoot
06-27-2011, 02:33 AM
Hes so so, I mean does he play defense ????

Lakers + Giants
06-27-2011, 03:15 AM
This is similar to the Lakers adding Steve Blake and Matt Barnes. Both were overrated additions that ended up costing them. The Mavs will get swept in the first round next year, and write this down, they will struggle to make the play-offs.

LMAO. I see your still mad about the finals. No way does dallas get swept, especially not in the 1st round. And to struggle to make the playoffs?!?! LMAO. Honestly there's a better chance of everything you just said happening to the heat.

Hellcrooner
06-27-2011, 10:15 AM
this trade can play out two ways for mavs.

A) rudy feels uncomfortable, goes on strugglin, coach uses him as a thre epoint spot up shooter 8 wich he isnt) he does nothing ends in the botto of the bench and walks away to spain at seasons end.

BAD TRADe lost a promising dude in hamilton for a uone year futile rental.

b) Rudy starts a new, stays fresh, builds his confidence up, coach allowes him to play his Real game, create handle, drive in and dunk, be a part of the offense, buys into teh winning team chemistry.
he becomes what he can become.

STeAL, 26 year old manu ginobili for a late first.

thats how things are.

it sall in both Rudys and coaches hands wich is gonna turn out to be.

LTBaByyy
06-27-2011, 10:50 AM
LMAO. I see your still mad about the finals. No way does dallas get swept, especially not in the 1st round. And to struggle to make the playoffs?!?! LMAO. Honestly there's a better chance of everything you just said happening to the heat.

:clap: He is just mad

The Heat wont even make the Finals next year with the Bulls gettin a SG this off season. They will lose in the ECF next year AT BEST!!!

Then it will be chaos for the media and Lebron for taking a pay cut and joining up with an elite player and still losing

And either 1) Lebron OR 2) Bosh/Miller/1st round draft picks will be up on the block for another top 5/10 player coming to Miami