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daleja424
06-23-2011, 12:11 AM
The Raptors' Leandro Barbosa was all smiles on Wednesday playing soccer in New York at his former teammate Steve Nash's charity soccer event.

But back in Toronto, his brother, trainer and confidante Artur is immersed in the reality that Leandro has a difficult decision to make. Barbosa has about a week to decide whether to opt out of his $7 million-plus deal with the Raptors -- possibly to become the highest-paid basketball player in Brazil.

NBA labor uncertainty, and the prospect of a lost NBA season, drive the Barbosas' thinking. In exploring alternatives, several top clubs in Europe, as well as two soccer-rich Brazilian club teams have emerged as possibilities.

Chief among the alternatives is the Brazilian club Flamengo, which recently brought soccer great Ronaldinho back from Europe, and is looking to capitalize on the strong Brazilian economy. Brazilian basketball newly has the full support of the Globo television network, so there is a bigger media stage than ever for Brazilian hoops. Barbosa, the biggest name in Brazilian basketball, is a natural target.

"Leandro received a great deal of interest from many clubs in Europe as well as the richest clubs in Brazil," says Artur. "You probably heard about the proposal from the Flamengo sports club of Rio de Janeiro. Since then we have received big interest from some top clubs in Euroleague who had not imagined that Leandro would strongly consider leaving the NBA."

Artur agreed to answer some questions about the thinking that's going on right now.

What is Leandro's top priority? Playing in the NBA? Size of contract? Style of play? Relationship with coach or players? Going home to Brazil?

Leandroís top priority is to be able to play basketball at a world class level. Since he was a little kid he has dreamed of playing in the NBA and he has been blessed to have had the opportunity to do this.

However, now there is a possibility that the league will not play this next year. Leandro has worked and sacrificed his whole life to play and that is what he wants to do.

If the NBA and the Players Association reach an agreement on a new CBA quickly -- before June 30 -- would Leandro stay?

Leandro has not left the NBA yet. However, because of the playerís option that he has in Toronto and given the uncertainty about next season, we have been looking at different offers in order to gauge the market and have the information that we need to make an informed decision.

This is a basic free market principle, when there is market uncertainty, it is disruptive to the participants. People donít like uncertainty and we are taking this opportunity to look around and analyze the landscape. If an agreement is reached on a new CBA this will change to landscape from what it is today and this will be valuable information that will affect our decision.

Does Leandro like playing in Toronto?

Leandro loves playing in Toronto, like I said earlier he has always dreamed of playing in the NBA and here in Toronto he is living his dream.

Would it be a dream come true to play in Brazil? Is the money comparable? Has a player of his stature ever played in Brazil?

He is living his dream playing in the NBA, however he has not forgotten his roots and where he comes from.

He is proud to be Brazilian and would be honored to play on a Brazilian team. He has had the chance to play on the national team and enjoyed it. The money can be comparable depending on the situation and structure of his contract. Brazil has a strong economy and if he has to choose between not playing basketball because the NBA is locked out and playing in Brazil (or Europe) he will choose to play. He is a competitor and wants to compete.

Are you aware of any other NBA players in a similar situation, considering going overseas at the moment?

We have heard rumors of others that are looking into going overseas, but to be honest we are focused on what we are going to do and not really worried about what others are doing. I would not be surprised if others were to go overseas to play if the NBA locks out the players. That is a basic free market principle at work, people go where they can use their competitive advantages to attain the best possible outcome.

It is Adam Smithís invisible hand in action, but now it is operating on a global level.

Today other leagues might be able to compete with the pay available in the NBA. This does not mean that the NBA will lose its market power, but if it is not resolved in a sustainable way, it could start to move that way.

Anything else you'd like to add?

Yes, I would love to wake up tomorrow and realize that this whole business of the potential lockout was nothing but a bad dream.

http://espn.go.com/blog/TrueHoop/post/_/id/30648/leandro-barbosa-considering-overseas-options

daleja424
06-23-2011, 12:13 AM
With the globalization of the game in recent decades, high level basketball is now played globally. A diaspora of NBA players, fleeing the NBA, looking for contracts around the world, could be disastrous for the NBA brand.

king4day
06-23-2011, 12:20 AM
Since he's from Brazil I don't think it'd mean much if he left. Kristic did the same thing. They are going/went home.

MrfadeawayJB
06-23-2011, 12:23 AM
Although good basketball is being played every where, the NBA is and always will be the highest level of competition. He just wants to go back home and retire in his native country, i find that admirable

FriedTofuz
06-23-2011, 12:28 AM
He will return home to brazil to play, if not, he'll stay with the raptors for 7 mil.

daleja424
06-23-2011, 12:32 AM
Although good basketball is being played every where, the NBA is and always will be the highest level of competition. He just wants to go back home and retire in his native country, i find that admirable

unless NBA players go overseas... then the best basketball would be played over there... but hey, maybe we could still have the d-league...

hgtiger32
06-23-2011, 12:33 AM
how is he the first domino?

daleja424
06-23-2011, 12:34 AM
he could be the first to start the trend of defecting from the locked out NBA...

MrfadeawayJB
06-23-2011, 12:35 AM
unless NBA players go overseas... then the best basketball would be played over there... but hey, maybe we could still have the d-league...

i seriously doubt that would ever happen lol. Most players in the NBA are from the USA, and would not want to leave if given the option to stay here

daleja424
06-23-2011, 12:36 AM
i seriously doubt that would ever happen lol. Most players in the NBA are from the USA, and would not want to leave if given the option to stay here

...I agree...if that is an option... if there is a lengthy lockout, however, staying home no longer becomes a viable option...

MrfadeawayJB
06-23-2011, 12:42 AM
...I agree...if that is an option... if there is a lengthy lockout, however, staying home no longer becomes a viable option...

true. They will go where ever the money is, just sign 1 year contracts. But is there a clause in the contracts that won't allow players (under contract, excluding FA's) to go overseas and play professionally?

Tmath
06-23-2011, 12:42 AM
He was a fun player to watch but I kind of hope he ops out to free up some more cap room. He would be wasting his time staying another year in toronto anyway. I would rather see him on a contender.

daleja424
06-23-2011, 12:43 AM
true. They will go where ever the money is, just sign 1 year contracts. But is there a clause in the contracts that won't allow players (under contract, excluding FA's) to go overseas and play professionally?

Yes and no. Basically they have to get a letter from Fiba. And normally Fiba will not give a player this letter if he is under contract with an NBA team... but my understanding is that a lockout situation is a bit of a gray area...

FriedTofuz
06-23-2011, 12:46 AM
How is barbosa the first domino?:confused:

daleja424
06-23-2011, 12:47 AM
Do I really need to explain the domino analogy?

homestarunner93
06-23-2011, 12:48 AM
i seriously doubt that would ever happen lol. Most players in the NBA are from the USA, and would not want to leave if given the option to stay here

Does Josh Childress ring a bell?

MrfadeawayJB
06-23-2011, 12:51 AM
Does Josh Childress ring a bell?

yeah childress does. I know they make good salaries with lower tax or no tax. They are even given room and board for free, as well as rental cars in some cases. It is not a bad option to play overseas, but i was referring to the "best players".

hgtiger32
06-23-2011, 01:42 AM
Do I really need to explain the domino analogy?

yes. just because barboas goes doesn't mean other players are going to follow suit. sure a bunch of average to below average players from foreign countries might go but not any big names that are news worthy.

Raps18-19 Champ
06-23-2011, 01:46 AM
Players always leave the NBA for their home country once in their life time. It's usually at the end of a players career. But since it's a lockout, he has an opportunity for more money while still playing.

smith&wesson
06-23-2011, 01:50 AM
i hope he stays with the raptors .. we can sure use him : (

Stuckey#3
06-23-2011, 02:05 AM
Do I really need to explain the domino analogy?

Wouldn't Josh Childress be the first domino then? Since he is one of the first talented NBA players (who wasn't past his prime) to go overseas for more money... even though he came back eventually?

Raps18-19 Champ
06-23-2011, 02:07 AM
i hope he stays with the raptors .. we can sure use him : (

If we draft Kemba, we'll have a logjam at the back court.

Bayless will still be around and I don't want Derozan playing a lot of SF.

Bayless and Kemba will need more than the 48 PG mins meaning Bayless will be playing some SG.

No mins for Barbosa.

BullsFTW
06-23-2011, 02:22 AM
NBA is still the premier league of all basketball, but the Euro League is slowly catching fire.

daleja424
06-23-2011, 09:02 AM
Wouldn't Josh Childress be the first domino then? Since he is one of the first talented NBA players (who wasn't past his prime) to go overseas for more money... even though he came back eventually?

in a sense... yes...

BUT, I am referring specifically to players leaving b/c of CBA issues...

Mile High Champ
06-24-2011, 10:22 AM
He will return home to brazil to play, if not, he'll stay with the raptors for 7 mil.

Thanks for pointing out the obvious..

dtmagnet
06-24-2011, 04:46 PM
he could be the first to start the trend of defecting from the locked out NBA...

He was thinking of doing this even if there was no lockout.

Rego247
06-24-2011, 04:57 PM
Thanks for pointing out the obvious..

lol.

KnicksR4Real
06-24-2011, 05:06 PM
domino?

AIMelo=KillaDUO
06-24-2011, 05:13 PM
Ohh no... the NBA needs the Great Josh Childress, and Leandro the great barbosa to be in the NBA.

n83417
06-24-2011, 05:32 PM
Well, Krstic already did it, and Barbosa is considering it. And the lockout has not officially started yet, so it is quite possible we are witnessing a trend here.

kidfury
06-24-2011, 05:56 PM
2nd tier players or veteran players looking for one final rich contract, it's not really shocking that they consider playing outside of the nba. Other leagues for whatever reason have more money to spend and older or lesser talented players are always available. So yes, if the $ are there then it will be a trend.

mike_noodles
06-24-2011, 06:07 PM
Although good basketball is being played every where, the NBA is and always will be the highest level of competition. He just wants to go back home and retire in his native country, i find that admirable

Exactly, and if/when athletes want to play in the best league, they will come to the NBA, just like star soccer players don't stay and play here in North America.

thephoenixson28
06-24-2011, 06:28 PM
Thats why they better get a deal done now.