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JordansBulls
06-22-2011, 04:54 PM
Back in 1993 Webber was the #1 pick and traded on draft night for Penny Hardaway. Webber played his rookie year in Golden State and then was traded to Washington.

November 17, 1994: Traded by the Golden State Warriors to the Washington Bullets for Tom Gugliotta, a 1996 1st round draft pick (Todd Fuller), a 1998 1st round draft pick (Vince Carter) and a 2000 1st round draft pick (Chris Mihm).



Webber had an outstanding first year, averaging 17.5 points and 9.1 rebounds per game and winning the NBA Rookie of the Year Award. He was instrumental in leading the Warriors back into the playoffs. However, he had a long-standing conflict with his coach, Don Nelson.[5] Nelson wanted to make Webber primarily a post player, despite Webber's superb passing ability and good ball handling skills for someone his size at 6 ft 10 in (2.08 m) tall. Webber also disliked playing a substantial amount of time at center, given Nelson's propensity towards smaller, faster line ups. In the 1994 off-season, the Warriors acquired Rony Seikaly so that Webber could play primarily at power forward. However, at the time, the differences between Webber and Nelson were considered to be irreconcilable. Webber exercised a one-year escape clause in his contract, stating he had no intentions of returning to the Warriors. With few alternatives, Golden State agreed to a sign and trade deal, sending Webber to the Washington Bullets (now the Wizards) for forward Tom Gugliotta and three first round draft picks.

Trace
06-22-2011, 04:55 PM
Back in 1993 Webber was the #1 pick and traded on draft night for Penny Hardaway. Webber played his rookie year in Golden State and then was traded to Washington.

November 17, 1994: Traded by the Golden State Warriors to the Washington Bullets for Tom Gugliotta, a 1996 1st round draft pick (Todd Fuller), a 1998 1st round draft pick (Vince Carter) and a 2000 1st round draft pick (Chris Mihm).

You kind of answered your own question with the bolded portion.

HouRealCoach
06-22-2011, 04:57 PM
Why should he?

haggis
06-22-2011, 04:57 PM
because it happened 17 years ago JB :shrug:

Hellcrooner
06-22-2011, 05:00 PM
because Inet was not as populat and fans were politer and more savy back then and media was more serious and less gossip?

dtmagnet
06-22-2011, 05:02 PM
Because no one remembers it.

asandhu23
06-22-2011, 05:03 PM
....because fan knew Don Nelson was a douche who doesn't know how to handle young stars.

ATSW02D16
06-22-2011, 05:06 PM
He knew it wouldn't work out and there was no point of staying there long term.

The April Fool
06-22-2011, 05:07 PM
....because fan knew Don Nelson was a douche who doesn't know how to handle young stars.

This.

It was Nelson who made Webber want to leave. It also was Nelson who encouraged the move for Webber to be dealt instead of repairing their relationship.

Nelson almost did this again with his relationship with Ellis, but he successfully got rid of Anthony Randolph too

llemon
06-22-2011, 05:07 PM
....because fan knew Don Nelson was a douche who doesn't know how to handle young stars.

Don Nelson, NBA Genius/Moron/Egotist/Maniac

slugger82685
06-22-2011, 05:10 PM
because he got enough heat for calling time out and people thought he could use a break with this one......

but seriously who cares? 17 years ago, hes not even in the league anymore, plus hes a crummy announcer so why even bring this up?

sixer04fan
06-22-2011, 05:11 PM
Because no one gives a ****

Lim
06-22-2011, 07:22 PM
cuz noone on this site was even alive back then

DerekRE_3
06-22-2011, 08:20 PM
Him and Nelson didn't get along. Pretty simple. Didn't even know about the opt out clause. The Warriors were dumb to even have that in there.

jrm2054
06-22-2011, 09:01 PM
BC he wasn't lebron

JJ_JKidd
06-22-2011, 10:35 PM
Because the media back then was way way different than today. In today's media you see all kinds of super-hype, things being blown out of proportion, and the like. :facepalm:

JJ_JKidd
06-22-2011, 10:44 PM
BC he wasn't lebron

:clap:

DaBUU
06-22-2011, 10:48 PM
because he got enough heat for calling time out and people thought he could use a break with this one......

but seriously who cares? 17 years ago, hes not even in the league anymore, plus hes a crummy announcer so why even bring this up?

who cant sit still, which drives me effen nuts

S-Dot
06-23-2011, 10:24 AM
Him and Nelson didn't get along. Pretty simple. Didn't even know about the opt out clause. The Warriors were dumb to even have that in there.

:laugh: I agree with that. Partly because of his relationship with Don, and mainly because in 1994 the media wasn't blowing things out of proportion as much as they do now, especially for a rookie.

Granted I was in pre-school, and cant tell you much about that team except Sir Charles scoring 56 points on them.

MTar786
06-24-2011, 10:31 AM
no one would get heat for getting traded after their rookie season. ur potential at that point is never realized. maybe the warriors felt a pinch in 2000. but then again. 7 years is a lot of time to get over something

NYY 26 to 7
06-24-2011, 10:32 AM
He did that first year followed him through much of his career. He was called a "cry baby" and it took a while for him to get the respect he deserved. It was just a bad situation but why would we continue to talk about it all these years later? Webber had a great career and it is long since over so why would people talk about Webber. Did you just hear this news or something?

MTar786
06-24-2011, 10:34 AM
or maybe people were too busy watching michael jordan attempt to play baseball

Randy West
06-24-2011, 10:35 AM
He didn't get along with Don Nelson which is no real surprise. That situation seemed toxic at the time, it was best for both parties.

Lloyd Christmas
06-24-2011, 12:16 PM
Because Warriors fans would rather forget about this time in Warriors history. But then some *** clown has to bring it up again and re-open old wounds. Thanks buddy.

JordansBulls
06-27-2011, 12:57 PM
BC he wasn't lebron

Or that many of the posters weren't watching bball at the time.

JayHunter
06-27-2011, 02:47 PM
That Could Have Been A Dynasty. I Loved That Team His Rookie Year. If He Stayed, Imagine This Line Up
PG- T. Hardaway
SG- L. Sprewell
SF- C. Mullin
PF- C. Webber
C- R. Seikaly
6th Man B. Owens

blastmasta26
06-27-2011, 02:56 PM
I didn't know basketball was around before '03 :confused:

Bunta
06-27-2011, 02:57 PM
BC he wasn't lebron

You're right, Webber recognized the team's worth in One year instead of Several.

TO Rapz
06-27-2011, 03:16 PM
This thread is jokes. :laugh2:

Dash
06-27-2011, 03:35 PM
Because Golden State suck more *** @ basketball than the Pistons.

Dash
06-27-2011, 03:36 PM
And how did he leave he got traded?

Jaji
06-27-2011, 06:23 PM
Seriously? :shrug:

JasonJohnHorn
06-27-2011, 08:37 PM
Why should he get slack for it?

Firsly, Nelson insisted on playing him at center when Webber was very adament about playing power forward. Nelson made no attempt to appease his best player, and no middle ground could be reached. And Nelson was always happy to trade a young talent for draft picks. Look how he dumped Mitch Richmond. Seriously? Run TMC was lighting $#!T up, all they needed was a front court, which they could have build up through the draft and free agency. But Nelson was trade-happy, and didnt know how to use Webber's full arsenal.

And if a guy is not happy in a working situation, and his employer makes no effort to meet him half way, why should he stick around?

Its not like Webber was from the area, or made any promises about winning a championship there, and then jumped ship after the team built a winner around him, but he failed to play up to his regulars season numbers and they lost several big playoff series... not that I mean anybody in particular, but just saying, that isnt the case here.

Now had he been drafted by Detroit, and he made a couple deep playoff runs with them, and then jumped ship on a national TV to play with a bunch of all-stars on another team, then maybe he'd have gotten some slack. But lets face it, the Warriors were, and continue to be, a badly run organization (and for that I have a great deal of sympathy for Warrior fans).

Besides, it was more or less simply him asking to be traded. They could have worked things out, but Nelson refused to budge.

TrueFan420
06-27-2011, 10:00 PM
webber got heat from those in the bay area... i still think he is a crybaby to this day and the fact that he couldnt man up and talk about his fvck ups with 30 30 on the fab five backs up my opinion.

KingPosey
06-27-2011, 10:17 PM
Webber isnt the only guy to have an issue with Nelly lol.

eibbor
06-27-2011, 10:23 PM
Back in 1993 Webber was the #1 pick and traded on draft night for Penny Hardaway. Webber played his rookie year in Golden State and then was traded to Washington.

November 17, 1994: Traded by the Golden State Warriors to the Washington Bullets for Tom Gugliotta, a 1996 1st round draft pick (Todd Fuller), a 1998 1st round draft pick (Vince Carter) and a 2000 1st round draft pick (Chris Mihm).

Ok, I'll say it...

As much respect as I have for Webber as a player... Nelson was right.

It's a shame that apparently nobody else let him in on the secret that he was 6' 10 and like 250 and could bang in the post knees or not.

It was always disappointing to see the guy consistently take 15 to 18 foot jumpers when a lot of times he was the biggest guy on the court.

ESaady
06-27-2011, 10:36 PM
It's chill he came back to the Warriors in an attempt to get us to a championship in '07. That alone should warrant forgiveness. His 9 games back in uniform were outstanding.

hard_candy
06-27-2011, 11:01 PM
Because it happened over 20 years ago.

Hawkeye15
06-27-2011, 11:08 PM
BC he wasn't lebron

This pretty much. Every player who ever left their team gets a pass except LeBron.

NYKalltheway
06-28-2011, 03:11 AM
I think it's because most people on PSD were not alive at the time :shrug:

thenetslegend
06-28-2011, 03:14 AM
It's chill he came back to the Warriors in an attempt to get us to a championship in '07. That alone should warrant forgiveness. His 9 games back in uniform were outstanding.

outstanding?? he looked like sweetney out there

Matrix3132
06-28-2011, 03:19 AM
This is hilarious, I think the OP just woke up from a coma or something

ESaady
06-28-2011, 03:19 AM
outstanding?? he looked like sweetney out there

He looked more like sarcasm out there to me.

thenetslegend
06-28-2011, 03:31 AM
He looked more like sarcasm out there to me.

:shrug: hard to tell knowing some fans out there

ESaady
06-28-2011, 04:52 AM
:shrug: hard to tell knowing some fans out there

Warriors and championship in the same sentence should have been a give away :D

KingPosey
06-28-2011, 04:43 PM
Ok, I'll say it...

As much respect as I have for Webber as a player... Nelson was right.

It's a shame that apparently nobody else let him in on the secret that he was 6' 10 and like 250 and could bang in the post knees or not.

It was always disappointing to see the guy consistently take 15 to 18 foot jumpers when a lot of times he was the biggest guy on the court.

Webber played with his back to the basket a ton with us (Sac), till his knee went out.

KingPosey
06-28-2011, 04:44 PM
This pretty much. Every player who ever left their team gets a pass except LeBron.
Ya really. We all know Webber made all kinds of promises to the citiy, and then left them completely in the dark as he held a one Hour special and embarassed them on TV.

Tony_Starks
06-28-2011, 05:03 PM
Because men were less sensitive back then and twitter hadn't been invented yet. Also reporters back then tended to actually talk more about basketball and less about feelings being hurt.......

Tony_Starks
06-28-2011, 05:06 PM
Ya really. We all know Webber made all kinds of promises to the citiy, and then left them completely in the dark as he held a one Hour special and embarassed them on TV.


.....not like he played insane basketball for them for 7 years and rescued the entire city from total obscurity or anything.........

MalZee24
06-28-2011, 09:06 PM
.....not like he played insane basketball for them for 7 years and rescued the entire city from total obscurity or anything.........

dont listen to kingposey. he has a rep in his own teams forums of being an idiot when it comes to posting. his own teams fellow fans make fun of his posts.

KnicksR4Real
06-28-2011, 09:25 PM
who cares

KingPosey
06-29-2011, 01:54 PM
dont listen to kingposey. He has a rep in his own teams forums of being an idiot when it comes to posting. His own teams fellow fans make fun of his posts.

ok.........

Because pointing out the obvious differences in why someone is viewed differently warrants your garbage response to something that had nothing to do with you.

Maybe I should have clarified but I figured everyday posters on PSD know just about everything there is to know about why there is soooo much hate for LBJ.

I may be blunt and rub some posters the wrong way, but I come into a debate with a Valid "side" to the argument.