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dnewguy
06-21-2011, 03:56 PM
I have 4 choices in the poll, if you think another draft class is better please give year and players/impact.

Tony_Starks
06-21-2011, 03:59 PM
'96 by a landslide.....

don't forget they also had Big Z, Kerry Kittles (who used to be NICE), and one of my favorites Shareef Abdur Raheem!!!

dnewguy
06-21-2011, 04:02 PM
Gotta go with the best, 2006.

Swashcuff
06-21-2011, 04:04 PM
'96 by a landslide.....

don't forget they also had Big Z, Kerry Kittles (who used to be NICE), and one of my favorites Shareef Abdur Raheem!!!

Also Antoine Walker and Ben Wallace went undrafted that year. Imagine if he was drafted. :speechless:

Jeff559
06-21-2011, 04:17 PM
the 96 draft may have been a little deeper, but the 84 and 2003 drafts were better in terms of having the best top players 1-4

RaidersLakers24
06-21-2011, 04:18 PM
96' by far you have 4-5 top 50 players in that draft one in the top 10 who will finish anywhere between (2-5) when it's all said and done and one close to the top 15 ever and then you also have multiple all-stars

valade16
06-21-2011, 04:26 PM
I say the 1984 draft with the 1996 draft close on its heels.

It's hard to beat MJ (considered the GOAT), Hakeem (a top 5 C), Barkeley (a top 5 PF), and Stockton (a top 5 PG).

I don't see Ray Allen, Iverson, Peja, or anyone else besides Kobe having that kind of legacy from the 1996 class.

It was deeper however.

Max Power
06-21-2011, 04:30 PM
96' by far you have 4-5 top 50 players in that draft one in the top 10 who will finish anywhere between (2-5) when it's all said and done and one close to the top 15 ever and then you also have multiple all-stars

Same can be said of 84, which includes the best player of those listed in the question in MJ. Hakeem is, at least, top 5 of those listed. The all-time assists leader in Stockton. An MVP in Barkley.

KnicksR4Real
06-21-2011, 04:36 PM
03

HoopsDrive
06-21-2011, 04:42 PM
1984

synister281
06-21-2011, 04:45 PM
After looking through them both, the 1996 definately had more impact players than the 1984.

JordansBulls
06-21-2011, 04:48 PM
1984 has 4 top 25 players and two top 10 players. It has a total of 6 MVP's and 8 Finals MVP's while the 96 class has a total of 4 MVP's and 2 finals MVP's and one top 10 player and maybe two top 30 players.

Lakerhead4ever
06-21-2011, 04:52 PM
i chose 84'. its hard to beat out mj, hakeem, barkley, and stockton

but i think 96' is a close second. iverson was amazing for a short amount of time. could have passed up stockton and barkley imo.

ray allen is the best 3 pt shooter ever.

kobes name is enough said

and nash is the best point guard since stockton and magic. maybe better than stockton

DMasta718
06-21-2011, 04:55 PM
96. Easy choice for me.

SanPitte
06-21-2011, 04:58 PM
voted for 1984 with MJ, Barkley, Hakeem, Stockton, but the 1996 draft was deeper... i also believe that 10 years from now, people will say the 2003 draft was the best in history

AIMelo=KillaDUO
06-21-2011, 05:16 PM
1996

smith&wesson
06-21-2011, 05:29 PM
the 96 draft was heavy.

ChI_ShIzzLe
06-21-2011, 05:39 PM
1984 - 4 Hall of Famers, each guy being in the top 5 of their respective positions of all-time.

ChI_ShIzzLe
06-21-2011, 05:44 PM
And also if it wasn't for injuries and had guys reached their full potential, we could've put the 05 draft up there as well. CP3, D-Will, Bogut, Bynum, Granger, Lee, Ellis.

timhoth
06-21-2011, 05:46 PM
I chose '84 as the top 4 players are phenominal, while there is more depth in the draft class of '96 for sure

Swashcuff
06-21-2011, 05:47 PM
And also if it wasn't for injuries and had guys reached their full potential, we could've put the 05 draft up there as well. CP3, D-Will, Bogut, Bynum, Granger, Lee, Ellis.

that could be said about every draft.

ChI_ShIzzLe
06-21-2011, 05:52 PM
that could be said about every draft.

I was mainly referring to Bogut and Bynum. They could've been 2 of the top big men in the game along with Howard if injuries didn't slow them down. They're still very good players, but definitely could've been stars.

Swashcuff
06-21-2011, 05:55 PM
I was mainly referring to Bogut and Bynum. They could've been 2 of the top big men in the game along with Howard if injuries didn't slow them down. They're still very good players, but definitely could've been stars.

understood.

Hustlenomics
06-21-2011, 06:01 PM
96'

DeyAce
06-21-2011, 06:02 PM
2003

B'sCeltsPatsSox
06-21-2011, 06:26 PM
Either 84 or 96. Can't decide.

blastmasta26
06-21-2011, 09:05 PM
'84 was more top heavy while '96 was deeper. I tend to favor depth in drafts, as the whole league is more impacted rather than a select number of teams, so I'll take '96.

AntiG
06-21-2011, 11:01 PM
1984. Best SG, all-around C, and 1st or 2nd best pure PG of all time in the same draft, as well as a top 5 all-time PF. Unbelievable draft.

bagwell368
06-21-2011, 11:10 PM
'84, and Jerome Kersey, Michael Cage, Sam Perkins, and Jay Humphries could be added to the list also

MTar786
06-21-2011, 11:18 PM
96 is te deepest of all time. but 84 is the best all time.. no question

84>>96>>>>>>03

oh and the op desereves a face palm for saying camby and kittles instead a sharief abdur-rahim

MTar786
06-21-2011, 11:28 PM
1984. Best SG, all-around C, and 1st or 2nd best pure PG of all time in the same draft, as well as a top 5 all-time PF. Unbelievable draft.

i agree with you.. but i cant agree with you that chuck is a top 5 pf all time. maybe top 10. IN MY EYES number 8 to be exact

i have duncan, malone, garnett, dirk all leap years ahead of him. i also would take kevin mchale and bob pettit over him too.. id put him at 8 or 9 and 10 would be chris webber for me personally.

sorry for being all nit picky lol. i like chuck.. but people speak of im here like he is easily top 3-d in pf's ll time.

back to the topic, jordan, dream, stockton, chuck, those 4 names make any draft class look like trash compared to them.

Gagan136
06-21-2011, 11:32 PM
1984 is the best for me, 1996 is second, gotta give the draft of 03 a bit more time.

Sly Guy
06-21-2011, 11:34 PM
the 96 draft may have been a little deeper, but the 84 and 2003 drafts were better in terms of having the best top players 1-4

I think this is a pretty good assessment.

LA_Raiders
06-21-2011, 11:37 PM
96, 03 its a bust so far...

Heater4life
06-21-2011, 11:43 PM
84 with 03 on its heels. Its all about top end talent, and both those drafts had it.

allSUAVE
06-21-2011, 11:45 PM
96 or 03

DwayneMVPwade
06-21-2011, 11:48 PM
1996

Hawkeye15
06-21-2011, 11:48 PM
84 and its not even close

jkcronyn
06-21-2011, 11:49 PM
I wanted to say 03 because it's more relevant but 84 had the GOAT and other ALL time greats, the 03 might look a bit better in 10 years

Khalifa21
06-21-2011, 11:52 PM
1984

PG: John Stockton
SG: Alvin Robertson
SF: Michael Jordan
PF: Charles Barkley/Sam Perkins
C: Hakeem Olajuwon

1996

PG: Steve Nash/Allen Iverson/Stephon Marbury
SG: Kobe Bryant/Ray Allen
SF: Peja Stojakovic/Antoine Walker
PF: Jermaine O'Neal/Shareef Abdur-Rahim
C: Marcus Camby/Ben Wallace

2003

PG: Mo Williams/Kirk Hinrich
SG: Dwyane Wade
SF: LeBron James/Carmelo Anthony
PF: Chris Bosh/David West
C: Chris Kaman

The 1996 draft was the deepest, the 1984 draft had the highest talent level (MJ, Hakeem, Stockton, Barkley) and the 2003 draft has a mixture of both.

Overall, it's '84 without a doubt for me.

knightstemplar
06-21-2011, 11:53 PM
1. 1984
2. 1996
3. 2003

Bishnoff
06-22-2011, 12:04 AM
84 for top talent; 96 for depth.

DR_1
06-22-2011, 12:07 AM
I say the 1984 draft with the 1996 draft close on its heels.

It's hard to beat MJ (considered the GOAT), Hakeem (a top 5 C), Barkeley (a top 5 PF), and Stockton (a top 5 PG).

I don't see Ray Allen, Iverson, Peja, or anyone else besides Kobe having that kind of legacy from the 1996 class.

It was deeper however.

This

pd1dish
06-22-2011, 12:31 AM
i went '84 because of their top players just being some of the greatest of all time including THE greatest of all time in Jordan who i have to be a homer for anyways

PatsSoxKnicks
06-22-2011, 01:29 AM
Looking at the total combined Win Shares in each draft:


Total Win Shares
1984 1552.8
1996 1409.2
2003 942.9


Obviously, the 1984 draft is going to come out ahead because its top heavy and because it includes all retired players (whereas most of the players in the 03 draft are still playing).

So to go further in depth, the top 10 in career win shares in each draft, along with the total of the top 10:


1984
Pk Tm Player Games MP WS WS/48
3 CHI Michael Jordan 1072 41010 214 0.25
16 UTA John Stockton 1504 47764 207.7 0.209
5 PHI Charles Barkley 1073 39330 177.2 0.216
1 HOU Hakeem Olajuwon 1238 44222 162.8 0.177
9 KCK Otis Thorpe 1257 39822 106.4 0.128
4 DAL Sam Perkins 1286 36598 105.4 0.138
11 ATL Kevin Willis 1424 38363 81.8 0.102
14 LAC Michael Cage 1140 29716 74.4 0.12
46 POR Jerome Kersey 1153 28115 69.5 0.119
7 SAS Alvin Robertson 779 24669 52.1 0.101
Total 1251.3



1996
Pk Tm Player Games MP WS WS/48
13 CHH Kobe Bryant 1103 40145 156.3 0.187
5 MIN Ray Allen 1102 40808 130.9 0.154
15 PHO Steve Nash 1090 34169 119.5 0.168
1 PHI Allen Iverson 914 37584 99 0.126
14 SAC Peja Stojakovic 804 26966 82.6 0.147
2 TOR Marcus Camby 890 27082 78 0.138
4 MIL Stephon Marbury 846 31891 77.5 0.117
3 VAN S Abdur-Rahim 830 28882 71.2 0.118
20 CLE Z Ilgauskas 843 22965 66.3 0.139
17 POR JO'Neal 886 24881 60.2 0.116
Total 941.5



2003
Pk Tm Player Games MP WS WS/48
1 CLE LeBron James 627 25171 118.9 0.227
5 MIA Dwyane Wade 547 20541 82.6 0.193
4 TOR Chris Bosh 586 21610 72.2 0.16
3 DEN Carmelo Anthony 591 21498 56.6 0.126
18 NOH David West 530 17160 47 0.131
7 CHI Kirk Hinrich 586 19657 42.2 0.103
29 DAL Josh Howard 453 14152 37.4 0.127
21 ATL Boris Diaw 623 19008 33.2 0.084
51 NJN Kyle Korver 599 14607 32.4 0.106
47 UTA Mo Williams 537 16419 30 0.088
Total 552.5


Obviously, the 2003 draft features all active players so the book on that draft isn't quite complete yet. So it's hard to accurately judge that draft vs. the other ones. Ultimately, whatever the Heat do is going to greatly influence the perception of the 03 draft in comparison to the other ones.

Looking at 96 vs. 84, there is no doubt that 84 was much much better at the top. However, even when you go towards the bottom of the top 10, you still find that the 86 draft was better then the 94 draft. Even after the top 4 in each draft, 5-9 in 84 still outperform 5-9 in 96. So even in terms of depth, the 84 draft was better.

After the top 10 in each of these drafts, you essentially get average players. Most of the guys afterwards have career WS/48 of around .100 (which is an average player). Kittles and Antoine Walker in the 96 draft and Barbosa in the 03 draft were the only players in all 3 to average more then 12 points per game in their career.

And between Kittles and Walker, neither of them are going to make up for the advantage the 84 draft has in 1-9.

So to sum it up, the 84 draft is the king. Better in terms of depth and better in terms of stars.

D Roses Bulls
06-22-2011, 01:35 AM
how could anyone not pick 84? the op also forgot about sam perkins and otis thorpe.

Antipod
06-22-2011, 01:54 AM
`84, easy.

Baller1
06-22-2011, 01:56 AM
How are people not choosing '84?! Seriously... It's not close.

The 1984 draft was phenomenal. The best, hands down.

NYK_kidd77
06-22-2011, 02:08 AM
84

The Raven
06-22-2011, 07:03 AM
A lot of talent there in the 96 draft

Heediot
06-22-2011, 09:10 AM
Wow 1984 is 1 for sure
2003 = 2nd
1996 = deepest

Heediot
06-22-2011, 09:11 AM
'96 by a landslide.....

don't forget they also had Big Z, Kerry Kittles (who used to be NICE), and one of my favorites Shareef Abdur Raheem!!!

This was a deepest class not the best.

Heediot
06-22-2011, 09:13 AM
Also Antoine Walker and Ben Wallace went undrafted that year. Imagine if he was drafted. :speechless:

Antoine Walker was a lottery pick by the Celtics

Swashcuff
06-22-2011, 09:38 AM
Antoine Walker was a lottery pick by the Celtics

I didn't mean them both, I meant in the sense of add Antoine Walker to his list and Ben Wallace went undrafted. Hence the reason I said imagine if he was drafted.

bagwell368
06-22-2011, 09:55 AM
how could anyone not pick 84? the op also forgot about sam perkins and otis thorpe.

Not to mention: Jerome Kersey, Michael Cage, and Jay Humphries

northsid3r
06-22-2011, 10:09 AM
Not the best but the 87 draft had some good players too.

PG Kenny Smith
SG Reggie Miller
SF Scottie Pippen
PF Horace Grant
C David Robinson

haggis
06-22-2011, 11:16 AM
84 is quite easily the best.

Gambeezy
06-22-2011, 12:59 PM
It depends. The '84 draft has the most legends while the '96 draft has the most depth. I'm going with the '84 draft with the '03 draft hot on its heels.

theLgndKllr35
06-22-2011, 01:04 PM
Looking back, the 1984 draft definitely produced the most talent, but I can't remember a draft with more hype than the 2003 draft. People were going nuts over that draft.

PatsSoxKnicks
06-22-2011, 01:49 PM
It depends. The '84 draft has the most legends while the '96 draft has the most depth. I'm going with the '84 draft with the '03 draft hot on its heels.

Nope, actually the 84 draft had the most depth too. See this post (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showpost.php?p=18322369&postcount=45).

nightBULL
06-22-2011, 05:07 PM
'84 without question.


I'm watching the '03 draft on tv right now and its hilarious listening to Tom Tolbert criticize picks like Miami selecting Wade and The Clippers selecting Chris Kamen. Hindsight is 20/20 but man does he sound like such a dumbass watching this 8 years later.

I also got a chuckle listening to Carmelo Anthony say he could play any position 1-4. In what planet would Melo ever be able to run the point effectively? Haha.

stejay
06-24-2011, 10:44 AM
'84 by a cakewalk in my opinion

Raidaz4Life
06-24-2011, 10:50 AM
1984 with 1996 being a moderately close second.

CELTICS4LYFE
06-24-2011, 11:23 AM
1984 with 1996 being a moderately close second.

This.

Cool007
06-24-2011, 12:24 PM
1984 has 4 top 25 players and two top 10 players. It has a total of 6 MVP's and 8 Finals MVP's while the 96 class has a total of 4 MVP's and 2 finals MVP's and one top 10 player and maybe two top 30 players.

This.

1984.

theheatles
06-24-2011, 12:46 PM
today, i guess you gotta go 84' but in 10 yrs 03' will be tops

-Kobe24-TJ19-
06-24-2011, 01:18 PM
Why won't you delete your account?