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Mile High Champ
06-21-2011, 02:37 PM
Hey guys, Some of you may remember that for the last three years I have conducted a poll at the end of the season that had PSD users vote for the top 10 players at each position. Its is now that time to vote! I would like to start this up once more considering the NBA season is now over and we can get to this discussion since lots has changed since the start of last season. Please TRY AND VOTE FOR THE BEST PLAYER AND DON'T BE A HOMER. I will leave the poll open for one day and than we can carry on to the next best player at that position. I will add more players after each round. I have also included the results of those last 3 years so everyone can see how much things have changed...Enjoy.

REMEMBER this is based on who is the best player, not the player who has the potential to be the best

Here is a comparison of 12 players in the poll from last season.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=rondora01&y1=2011&p2=parketo01&y2=2011&p3=kiddja01&y3=2011&p4=billuch01&y4=2011&p5=curryst01&y5=2011&p6=lowryky01&y6=2011

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=lawsoty01&y1=2011&p2=conlemi01&y2=2011&p3=feltora01&y3=2011&p4=walljo01&y4=2011&p5=holidjr01&y5=2011&p6=millean02&y6=2011

2011 Top 10 PG RANKINGS

1) Chris Paul
2) Derrick Rose
3) Deron Williams
4) Russell Westbrook
5) Steve Nash
6) Rajon Rondo
7) Tony Parker
8)
9)
10)


2010 Off-Season PSD PG Rankings
1) Deron Williams
2) Chris Paul
3) Steve Nash
4) Rajon Rondo
5) Derrick Rose
6) Chauncey Billups
7) Russel Westbrook
8) Tony Parker
9) Jason Kidd
10) Tyreke Evans

2009 Off-Season PSD PG Rankings
1) Chris Paul
2) Deron Williams
3) Chauncey Billups
4) Tony Parker
5) Steve Nash
6) Derrick Rose
7) Devin Harris
8) Rajon Rondo
9) Jose Calderon
10) Jason Kidd

2008 Off-Season PSD PG Rankings
1) Chris Paul
2) Steve Nash
3) Deron Williams
4) Baron Davis
5) Tony Parker
6) Jason Kidd
7) Chauncey Billups
8) Gilbert Arenas
9) Jose Calderon
10) Andre Miller

Mile High Champ
06-21-2011, 02:38 PM
Number 8 is up!

DrDre94
06-21-2011, 02:41 PM
I picked Billups, but J Kidd definitely deserves it

Mile High Champ
06-21-2011, 02:42 PM
I like Billups here but Kidd also came up in my head. That being said I really like Lowry & Conley a lot after this season.

Avenged
06-21-2011, 02:44 PM
Stephen Curry for me.

Not a fan of his D but outside of Kidd and probaby Holiday (since I seen him get mentioned a couple of times in #7) has the most complete game production wise.

edit: forgot about Lowry but I'd still go with Curry

Htownballa1622
06-21-2011, 02:46 PM
I would say kidd or even billups but I think they're just a bit too up there in age for my liking. I picked lowry. Plus hes my homer pick:shrug: but I truly believe he's next. No homer.

Cool007
06-21-2011, 02:47 PM
John Wall?

Swashcuff
06-21-2011, 02:50 PM
This is the toughest one for me thus far.:mad:

douglas
06-21-2011, 02:54 PM
I went with Steph Curry. That guy can ball, dawg!

KnicksR4Real
06-21-2011, 03:00 PM
chauncey or jkidd

allSUAVE
06-21-2011, 03:01 PM
im going with Mr big shot Billups when healthy

haggis
06-21-2011, 03:03 PM
this list might be the hardest to pick from, you have the over the hills and the up and coming.

I'll go with Steph Curry. Because he macks on 14 year olds.

Jetsguy
06-21-2011, 03:05 PM
Chauncey Billups for me he has higher W/S and is more efficient than Kidd and his PER/36 is better.

Billups and Curry are close but again Billups edges him out for me...

Sadds The Gr8
06-21-2011, 03:05 PM
wtf? billups sucked this year didnt he?

greg_ory_2005
06-21-2011, 03:05 PM
Stephen Curry!

LTBaByyy
06-21-2011, 03:12 PM
Kidd definitely!!!!!!

Delfiffer
06-21-2011, 03:14 PM
It's Stephen Curry no doubt. compare his numbers wilth billups and its clear who is the better player right now. Billups is on the decline while Curry is on the verge of becoming an allstar

Slimsim
06-21-2011, 03:17 PM
Between kidd or Big shot

Cubs Win
06-21-2011, 03:22 PM
Close between Kidd, Curry, and Billups for me here, but I went with Kidd.

DR_1
06-21-2011, 03:25 PM
I picked Kidd. Showed he still had it in the playoffs.

AIMelo=KillaDUO
06-21-2011, 03:30 PM
Chauncey B B BB Billups!

Avenged
06-21-2011, 03:34 PM
Billups had a down year although I wouldn't mind him going here..

Kidd.. ehh, it's hard for me to put him here when he only averaged 7 points per game which were not even as efficient as others putting up more.

Chronz
06-21-2011, 03:37 PM
This is where it gets tough

Billups WAS the best coming into the year but he had a rough season and looked inferior to Lawson at times, Kyle Lowry is the best defender at his position, Kidd won a title and can check 2's the best, overall youve got alot of phenoms at this position, decision depends on how you feel these players develop.

Giraffes Rule
06-21-2011, 03:40 PM
Billups here, Kidd for number 9. I'll take Billups much better offense over Kidd's better defense.

JamaicanYouth
06-21-2011, 03:45 PM
guys curry has regressed this season kidd here at 8 billups should not be in the conversation the way he played this season lowry/conley/ after poll should be based off this year not knowing what they can do

Htownballa1622
06-21-2011, 03:45 PM
Billups had a down year although I wouldn't mind him going here..

Kidd.. ehh, it's hard for me to put him here when he only averaged 7 points per game which were not even as efficient as others putting up more.

That's how I feel about kidd. I mean, he was scoreless in game 4 of the finals!Of course he doesn't necessarily look for his shot, but really ZERO points?

jp611
06-21-2011, 03:46 PM
That's how I feel about kidd. I mean, he was scoreless in game 4 of the finals!.of course he doesn't necessarily look for his shot, but really ZERO points?

Well they won didnt they

Swashcuff
06-21-2011, 03:49 PM
This is where it gets tough

Billups WAS the best coming into the year but he had a rough season and looked inferior to Lawson at times, Kyle Lowry is the best defender at his position, Kidd won a title and can check 2's the best, overall youve got alot of phenoms at this position, decision depends on how you feel these players develop.

My biased 76ers mind makes me hope that Jrue would. Hard to go against Lowry, Curry and Wall (not based on his performance last season but however his potential). Kidd did lead league in playoff 3FGs and performed his role on both ends of the floor as well as he possibly could. Chauncey's streakiness over the season really showed that he still had it in him and was capable of just shooting absolutely out of his mind at the flip of a switch.

I had Billups at #8 when he was playing at his best with Kidd behind him. At seasons' end however the decision got a bit tougher for me. Billup's play in April and March just really hurt him. It's still a bit tough for me since we are talking about right now.

Lowry's and Curry's March was great and their April wasn't to shabby either.

I'm still up in the air but I really am feeling Billups regardless.

Htownballa1622
06-21-2011, 03:52 PM
Well they won didnt they

The title yes.Dallas won.

Game four.no.

All I'm saying is I don't think curry,lowry, or even billups would be held scoreless in a big game like that.
Kidd is great. But at his age,i don't feel he's top 8.

THE GIPPER
06-21-2011, 03:53 PM
well lawson>billups imo so i dunno why everyone is picking chauncey he slowed down a lot this year

checkit
06-21-2011, 03:53 PM
Well they won didnt they

exactly I don't understand why some are so caught up in the offensive side of things. Obviously he was doing things other than scoring that were helping his team win. It's not all about getting a lot of points especially when it is not helping the team. there are some examples of this that are ranked higher on the list but I won't go there. btw I voted for Kidd.

jp611
06-21-2011, 03:53 PM
The title yes.Dallas won.

Game four.no.

All I'm saying is I don't think curry,lowry, or even billups would be held scoreless in a big game like that.
Kidd is great. But at his age,i don't feel he's top 8.

Yes they did, they won games 4,5,6

Htownballa1622
06-21-2011, 03:59 PM
Yes they did, they won games 4,5,6

My fault. I read the game wrong. they won yes but I still think their hall of fame point guard (if he's top 8) should score a point.

bigA9331
06-21-2011, 04:01 PM
Kidd

PhillyFinezt
06-21-2011, 04:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjXegIKUpdc

you guys gotta be kidding me voting Kidd :facepalm:

Htownballa1622
06-21-2011, 04:04 PM
Kidd did all he needed for them to win, I just feel he's past his prime and not a top 8pg.
With that being said.he fit perfectly with the championship team.
Maybe his zero pont game was a bad example. my fault.imo,i feel there are 8pgs better overall today.

Bruno
06-21-2011, 04:54 PM
I'd go with J-Kidd here. IMO he defends the best out of any player left (because of his versatility as a defender, being able to guard SG's) , and can facilitate a championship level offense better than any player left on the board.

papipapsmanny
06-21-2011, 04:59 PM
jason kidd is not good anymore

not near a top 10 point guard in the league anymore (used to be way up there)

Hawkeye15
06-21-2011, 05:11 PM
Billups here for me. Tough choice here.

I would like to add that next season, expect Lowry to bolt up in this poll

Redbull
06-21-2011, 05:21 PM
It has to be Kidd here.

Jetsguy
06-21-2011, 05:27 PM
Just curious - all the people voting for Kidd, besides winning the title this year what makes him a top 10 PG? I mean his D is really that good to make up for his handful of points per game on very inefficient shooting?

Lloyd Christmas
06-21-2011, 05:37 PM
Curry

EaglePride615
06-21-2011, 06:15 PM
wow. cant believe jkidd is there... really?

smith&wesson
06-21-2011, 06:28 PM
no love for billups ??

kozelkid
06-21-2011, 06:42 PM
I think it's between Andre Miller and Ty Lawson.

AntiG
06-21-2011, 06:51 PM
Kidd by far. Should've gone before Parker.

Khalifa21
06-21-2011, 07:15 PM
Chauncey B-B-B-Billups

jimm120
06-21-2011, 07:22 PM
Voted Kidd....but after reading the topic....some people definitely put up a good argument against Kidd being #8. Wish I had read first.

Well, now it seems we got the final 3 guys for the top 10 (Kidd, Billups, Curry)....now its just gonna be seeing if Billups of Curry fall to 9 or 10

Chest Rockwell
06-21-2011, 07:29 PM
Love Billups but it's gotta be Kidd.

tyfreaks brotha
06-21-2011, 07:35 PM
Damnit didn't see Kidd. Oh well, went with Wall

Delfiffer
06-21-2011, 07:41 PM
I dont get who people still think Kidd is better than Billups or Curry right now. He didn't do anything great to win the title. He was like their 4 best player in the Finals, and he's on the decline. IMO he isn't a top 10 pg anymore.

And if this list is based on which pg will be the best player going into next season, its's curry no doubt, or even possibly wall or lowry. They are getting better while Billups and Kidd are on the decline.

papipapsmanny
06-21-2011, 07:49 PM
Really this is ********. Jason kidd, and i hate saying this, SUCKS at this point in time.

He shot 36.7 Percent from the field, that is awful, he used to be good.

But seriously you are gonna tell me next season, and only next season. You are going to take Kidd over Wall/Lowry/Billups/Curry?

Come on people...

Hawkeye15
06-21-2011, 08:00 PM
hahah how is this Kidd? Short term memories striking hard here

Avenged
06-21-2011, 08:03 PM
I'm happy to see Curry getting love. I thought only me and a handful would be voting for him but it's good to see him among this discussion.

As far as Kidd goes, yes he can run the point and facilitate an offense, but isn't that the exact reason why Rondo didn't go in the top 5? Same standards should apply for everyone. His less than efficient 7 points per game as compared to others still on the board don't impress me. All the PG's left who are being mentioned are close in terms of efficiency, but Kidd is a player who's advanced stats are similar to the others but per game stats are less than impressive.

theLgndKllr35
06-21-2011, 08:42 PM
I got Wall followed closely by Holiday.

Knicks21
06-21-2011, 08:57 PM
If you took out Kidds finals series, their is no way he is no8. Like Hawkeye said, a lot of us have judged players on this past series.

jetman
06-21-2011, 08:59 PM
I'd give it to Steph. The guy's just an all around beast. Great scorer, improving passer, once he becomes a competent defender he'll be an all star.

ashyzup
06-21-2011, 09:12 PM
I'd go with Steph Curry.

NBA-GMaster
06-21-2011, 09:37 PM
Steph Curry.. He got better stats than Billups and Kidd..

LTBaByyy
06-21-2011, 10:43 PM
People are forgetting the other side of the game, defense

Kidd did amazing guarding Roy, Kobe, and Wade in the playoffs

blastmasta26
06-21-2011, 10:51 PM
Steph Curry.. He got better stats than Billups and Kidd..
Billups has superior TS%, offensive and defensive rating, offensive and defensive win shares, and win shares per 48. Per game stats are largely irrelevant. I'm sure by next offseason Curry will be higher in the poll and Billups might not even be in the top 10, but for this year I'll take Billups.

Illinirob83
06-21-2011, 10:54 PM
How can it not be Curry here?

Htownballa1622
06-21-2011, 10:54 PM
Really this is ********. Jason kidd, and i hate saying this, SUCKS at this point in time.

He shot 36.7 Percent from the field, that is awful, he used to be good.

But seriously you are gonna tell me next season, and only next season. You are going to take Kidd over Wall/Lowry/Billups/Curry?

Come on people...

I agree and that is what I was trying to say. Kidd fits with dallas and is great but there's no way he's top 8. I don't even think top 10.

ATSW02D16
06-21-2011, 11:11 PM
Steph Curry.

SeoulBeatz
06-21-2011, 11:16 PM
Kidd (cause of finals run), Wall, then my boy Holiday :).

Steph Curry plays 0 defense and I just don't think Billups is the same player he once was.

Crackadalic
06-21-2011, 11:32 PM
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=billuch01&y1=2011&p2=kiddja01&y2=2011

Billups has the better per, TS%, efg, offensive rating,s OWS, win shares and ws/48. Better 3pt shooter 40% average close to 17pts 91%FT

Kidd has a better TRB% Defensive rating, more assist and defensive win share

Billups has kidd beat in too many category unless you want to add the ring to kidd resume

NBA-GMaster
06-22-2011, 12:05 AM
Billups has superior TS%, offensive and defensive rating, offensive and defensive win shares, and win shares per 48. Per game stats are largely irrelevant. I'm sure by next offseason Curry will be higher in the poll and Billups might not even be in the top 10, but for this year I'll take Billups.

Are you sure??:confused:
Steph curry got 18ppg,5.8 asst, 1.5stl, 3.9reb, .480FG%, .498 2PT%, .442 3PT%, .934 FT%, .27Blk, 5 dbldbl and 35.9 min

Chauncey had 16ppg,5.4 asst,1 stl, 2.6 reb, .427FG%, .448 2P%, .402 3PT%, .916 FT%, .19Blk, 2dbldbl and 31.8 min..

source: nba.com

DrDre94
06-22-2011, 12:22 AM
Are you sure??:confused:
Steph curry got 18ppg,5.8 asst, 1.5stl, 3.9reb, .480FG%, .498 2PT%, .442 3PT%, .934 FT%, .27Blk, 5 dbldbl and 35.9 min

Chauncey had 16ppg,5.4 asst,1 stl, 2.6 reb, .427FG%, .448 2P%, .402 3PT%, .916 FT%, .19Blk, 2dbldbl and 31.8 min..

source: nba.com

Look at the minutes Billups gets and the minutes Curry gets...

Swashcuff
06-22-2011, 12:36 AM
Are you sure??:confused:
Steph curry got 18ppg,5.8 asst, 1.5stl, 3.9reb, .480FG%, .498 2PT%, .442 3PT%, .934 FT%, .27Blk, 5 dbldbl and 35.9 min

Chauncey had 16ppg,5.4 asst,1 stl, 2.6 reb, .427FG%, .448 2P%, .402 3PT%, .916 FT%, .19Blk, 2dbldbl and 31.8 min..

source: nba.com

Depending on how you look at it they've both got a case in terms of the advanced #s.


Rk Player Season Age G MP PER TS% eFG% ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% ORtg DRtg OWS DWS WS WS/48
1 C. Billups 10-11 34 72 2310 18.7 .617 .519 1.3 8.1 4.7 25.8 1.5 0.5 15.3 22.3 120 111 6.6 1.4 8.0 0.166
2 S. Curry 10-11 22 74 2489 19.4 .595 .551 2.3 10.9 6.5 28.1 2.2 0.6 16.4 24.4 113 112 5.4 1.3 6.6 0.128

Avenged
06-22-2011, 12:53 AM
Chauncey's got him beat in more of the advanced #s.


Rk Player Season Age G MP PER TS% eFG% ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% ORtg DRtg OWS DWS WS WS/48
1 C. Billups 10-11 34 72 2310 18.7 .617 .519 1.3 8.1 4.7 25.8 1.5 0.5 15.3 22.3 120 111 6.6 1.4 8.0 0.166
2 S. Curry 10-11 22 74 2489 19.4 .595 .551 2.3 10.9 6.5 28.1 2.2 0.6 16.4 24.4 113 112 5.4 1.3 6.6 0.128

I can live with Billups being ahead of Curry but not Kidd..

But for the sake of argument, Curry is more efficient than Billups overall. His PER is at 19.4 compared to Billups 18.7. Billups leads Curry in TS% but Curry leads Billups in eFG%. Curry also rebounds the ball at a higher rate offensively and defensively/total = 6.5% to Billups 4.7%. Curry also holds a higher assisting percentage 28.1 to 25.8.. Steals and Blocks rate? Goes to Curry as well. Although all these stats are pretty close which is why I have no problems with Billups going ahead. Billups does lead in WS and WS/48 though.

Defensive rating and defensive WS is a lot closer than we all think given that Billups is known as a solid defender while Curry isn't.

I'll also add that Curry averages more points, assists, rebounds, steals, blocks, shoots a higher FT%, 3pt %, and FG%. This is not to mention that Curry is much faster than Billups now given that he is only 22 years old compared to Billups at 34.

MR.TRIPDUB
06-22-2011, 06:28 AM
I just love that kidd is still mentionedat the top 10 pg today at his age. His defense and smarts are probably the reason we still think highly of him.
I voted kidd but anywhere inside the top ten would great for him.

For the haters who cant believe he is deserving, if any of those pg in the list including the top 7 can guard arguably 4 of the top 5 players in the nba (kobe, kd, wade, lbj) then leave him out of top 10. Thats all im sayin

YoungOne
06-22-2011, 07:29 AM
curry has to prove himself before getting that high...

Sky Hook
06-22-2011, 08:51 AM
Jason Kidd, of course.

lamzoka
06-22-2011, 08:52 AM
this 1 is kinda hard, but its only 2 champs up there and only 1 finals mvp. so im going with mr big shot billups, plus im a knicks fan

Raidaz4Life
06-22-2011, 08:56 AM
Dear God, it would appear John Wall has easily become the most underrated player in the league.

Jetsguy
06-22-2011, 08:59 AM
Everyone picking Kidd is saying Kidd or Kidd by a mile or Kid because he won the chip. I have not seen one set of stats to prove he is better or even close to as good as Billups or Curry.

Men Lie, Women Lie, Stats Dont!

wjmoffatt
06-22-2011, 09:21 AM
Darren Colleson is better then all these choices! And Tyreke Evans plays Point enough to be considered, and sorry to say it but his stats are beating everyones.

jp611
06-22-2011, 09:25 AM
Dear God, it would appear John Wall has easily become the most underrated player in the league.

How? If anything he's overrated, he was garbage this year

Swashcuff
06-22-2011, 09:28 AM
Darren Colleson is better then all these choices! And Tyreke Evans plays Point enough to be considered, and sorry to say it but his stats are beating everyones.

Clearly someone doesn't understand the stats nor does he watch basketball.

Swashcuff
06-22-2011, 09:28 AM
Dear God, it would appear John Wall has easily become the most underrated player in the league.

You keep choosing Wall without giving any reason.

Swashcuff
06-22-2011, 09:37 AM
How? If anything he's overrated, he was garbage this year

I wouldn't say he was garbage I mean he along with Jrue Holiday are 2 of 5 players 20 or younger in NBA history to ever average 14, 4 and 6 with the other 3 being Magic, CP3 and LeBron.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&type=totals&per_minute_base=36&lg_id=NBA&is_playoffs=N&year_min=&year_max=&franch_id=&season_start=1&season_end=-1&age_min=18&age_max=20&height_min=0&height_max=99&birth_country_is=Y&birth_country=&is_active=&is_hof=&pos=&qual=&c1stat=pts_per_g&c1comp=gt&c1val=13&c2stat=ast_per_g&c2comp=gt&c2val=6&c3stat=trb_per_g&c3comp=gt&c3val=4&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&c5stat=&c5comp=gt&c6mult=1.0&c6stat=&order_by=ws

He had a good season however injuries really set him back some. Had he remained healthy throughout the year he could have realistically been around 17, 5, and 8. However what's hurts his ranking even more than him getting injured was his erratic play and offensive inefficiency.

Rangerchick
06-22-2011, 09:37 AM
Everyone picking Kidd is saying Kidd or Kidd by a mile or Kid because he won the chip. I have not seen one set of stats to prove he is better or even close to as good as Billups or Curry.

Men Lie, Women Lie, Stats Dont!

Are you blind? Kidd had better assist and rebound totals this year than either of those two. And you really think Billups or Curry could have done as good a job defensively guarding Wade, LeBron, Kobe, etc. in the playoffs as Kidd did? It's not solely about offense, it's about D too and being well-rounded. If it was only about O, people would be saying Carmelo is just as good as LeBron.

Mishmin
06-22-2011, 09:40 AM
Tyreke and Collison should be on the list. With that huge trade happening, Felton got lost in the shuffle, but people forget what kind of season he had. It was a breakout year for him, probably should have been an all-star over joe johnson in the east. He'll re-establish himself once he's out of denver.

Jetsguy
06-22-2011, 09:47 AM
Are you blind? Kidd had better assist and rebound totals this year than either of those two. And you really think Billups or Curry could have done as good a job defensively guarding Wade, LeBron, Kobe, etc. in the playoffs as Kidd did? It's not solely about offense, it's about D too and being well-rounded. If it was only about O, people would be saying Carmelo is just as good as LeBron.

so again a Kidd homer gives their opinion and doesnt back it up with sats. Drtg and Ortg have been posted already and it is much closer than you think on D. It certainly does not make up for Kidd's awful efficiency on Offense, I mean 7 pts/gm on 37% shooting?

Swashcuff
06-22-2011, 10:14 AM
I can live with Billups being ahead of Curry but not Kidd..

But for the sake of argument, Curry is more efficient than Billups overall. His PER is at 19.4 compared to Billups 18.7. Billups leads Curry in TS% but Curry leads Billups in eFG%. Curry also rebounds the ball at a higher rate offensively and defensively/total = 6.5% to Billups 4.7%. Curry also holds a higher assisting percentage 28.1 to 25.8.. Steals and Blocks rate? Goes to Curry as well. Although all these stats are pretty close which is why I have no problems with Billups going ahead. Billups does lead in WS and WS/48 though.

Defensive rating and defensive WS is a lot closer than we all think given that Billups is known as a solid defender while Curry isn't.

I'll also add that Curry averages more points, assists, rebounds, steals, blocks, shoots a higher FT%, 3pt %, and FG%. This is not to mention that Curry is much faster than Billups now given that he is only 22 years old compared to Billups at 34.

I changed the title of my previous post to a case could be made for both. If you also take their respective simple ratings into account Curry has him beat there as well, they both weren't horrible in the clutch with Curry being a more efficient shooter but Chauncey scoring more. That has to be more because of reputation and experience than anything else. I honestly see nothing wrong with someone taking Curry over Chauncey.

I personally chose Chauncey because of the fact that IMO he is a better floor general, a better player the half court, better defensively (has regressed considerably in that regard but still better than Curry) and more importantly than anything else a better leader.

Jetsguy
06-22-2011, 10:16 AM
I changed the title of my previous post to a case could be made for both. If you also take their respective simple ratings into account Curry has him beat there as well, they both weren't horrible in the clutch with Curry being a more efficient shooter but Chauncey scoring more. That has to be more because of reputation and experience than anything else. I honestly see nothing wrong with someone taking Curry over Chauncey.

I personally chose Chauncey because of the fact that IMO he is a better floor general, a better player the half court, better defensively (has regressed considerably in that regard but still better than Curry) and more importantly than anything else a better leader.

I agree, it should be Curry or Chancey here, I just dont see a very compelling case for Kidd...

Swashcuff
06-22-2011, 10:23 AM
I agree, it should be Curry or Chancey here, I just dont see a very compelling case for Kidd...

I think they look at it in terms of leadership, defense and his abilities/decision making as a facilitator. I mean in all honesty he was a HUGE part of a championship team. So if someone wants to go based on that I could understand, I personally would not right now.

Mile High Champ
06-22-2011, 10:49 AM
Lead is only at 6. Things are very close and still lots of time left.