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GoPacers33
06-20-2011, 09:11 AM
As of right now these are who I think will be goin to the HOF.

Western Conference -
Kobe Bryant
Tim Duncan
Tony Parker
Vince Carter
Steve Nash
Dirk Novitski
Jason Kidd
Derek Fisher
Grant Hill
Yao Ming
Manu Ginobli
Chris Paul

Time Will Tell-
Kevin Durant
Manu Ginobli
Blake Griffin
Russel Westbrook
Kevin Love
Tyreke Evans bg

Eastern Conference-
Kevin Garnet
Ray Allen
Paul Pierce
Lebron James
Dwayne Wade
Dwight Howard
Carmelo Anthony
Amare Stoudemire
Chauncy Billups

Time Will Tell-
Deron Williams
Danny Granger
Chris Bosh
Derrick Rose

I could of missed some:shrug:. Who did I miss and what do you think about my list?

BaddNewz
06-20-2011, 09:49 AM
Tony parker will not be in the H.O.F unless he takes his game up a couple notches...yao ming either imo...

Juwan howard, noah, mcgrady, rip hamilton, ben wallace, odom, big Z etc...just throwing names out there

AntiG
06-20-2011, 09:52 AM
Derek Fisher, Grant Hill, Vince Carter, Amare Stoudamire probably won't be in the HOF, amongst the established players.

Yao will probably make it simply because of his contributions as the first top level Asian basketballer, though he doesn't deserve it other than that.

BaddNewz
06-20-2011, 09:54 AM
Rob horry definitely

Chacarron
06-20-2011, 09:58 AM
I don't see Fisher going into the HOF as a player. If after he retires, he becomes a hell of a coach or NBA executive then he will be in.

Swashcuff
06-20-2011, 10:05 AM
Tony parker will not be in the H.O.F unless he takes his game up a couple notches...yao ming either imo...

Juwan howard, noah, mcgrady, rip hamilton, ben wallace, odom, big Z etc...just throwing names out there

The names you throw out there do you think they'll be going into the Hall?

Swashcuff
06-20-2011, 10:10 AM
Rank Player HoF Prob
1. Kobe Bryant 1.0000
2. Shaquille O'Neal1.0000
3. Tim Duncan 0.9999
4. Kevin Garnett 0.9986
5. LeBron James 0.9925
6. Dwyane Wade 0.9909
7. Dirk Nowitzki 0.9817
8. Paul Pierce 0.9759
9. Jason Kidd 0.9605
10. Ray Allen 0.9466
11. Vince Carter 0.8664
12. Chris Paul 0.7690
13. Tracy McGrady 0.6643
14. Amare Stoudemire0.6198
15. Pau Gasol 0.6006
16. Carmelo Anthony 0.5988
17. Tony Parker 0.5713
18. Chris Bosh 0.5369
19. Dwight Howard 0.4882
20. Grant Hill 0.4121
21. Steve Nash 0.3936
22. Shawn Marion 0.3285
23. Gilbert Arenas 0.3130
24. Yao Ming 0.3071
25. Chauncey Billups0.2174
26. Manu Ginobili 0.1341
27. Deron Williams 0.1307
28. Elton Brand 0.1219
29. Joe Johnson 0.0996
30. Carlos Boozer 0.0743
31. Antawn Jamison 0.0736
32. Baron Davis 0.0703
33. Richard Hamilton0.0587
34. Lamar Odom 0.0517
35. Jermaine O'Neal 0.0331
36. Peja Stojakovic 0.0267
37. Zach Randolph 0.0263
38. Derek Fisher 0.0247
39. Caron Butler 0.0177
40. Michael Redd 0.0172
41. Jason Terry 0.0169
42. Jerry Stackhouse0.0154
43. David West 0.0146
44. Andre Miller 0.0135
45. Ron Artest 0.0109
46. Andre Iguodala 0.0091
47. Danny Granger 0.0091
48. Mike Bibby 0.0089
49. Jason Richardson0.0085
50. Raymond Felton 0.0081

As it stands of right now this is basketball reference's Hall of Fame Probability system. http://www.basketball-reference.com/about/hof_prob.html that's the explanation of the method.

Tarheels23
06-20-2011, 10:12 AM
Im not sure about Yao. Carmelo and Amare have some work to do (although Melo did win an NCAA tourney almost single handedly). Noah and Horford will probably make it due to their college resume.

Khalifa21
06-20-2011, 10:21 AM
Rank Player HoF Prob
1. Kobe Bryant 1.0000
2. Shaquille O'Neal1.0000
3. Tim Duncan 0.9999
4. Kevin Garnett 0.9986
5. LeBron James 0.9925
6. Dwyane Wade 0.9909
7. Dirk Nowitzki 0.9817
8. Paul Pierce 0.9759
9. Jason Kidd 0.9605
10. Ray Allen 0.9466
11. Vince Carter 0.8664
12. Chris Paul 0.7690
13. Tracy McGrady 0.6643
14. Amare Stoudemire0.6198
15. Pau Gasol 0.6006
16. Carmelo Anthony 0.5988
17. Tony Parker 0.5713
18. Chris Bosh 0.5369
19. Dwight Howard 0.4882
20. Grant Hill 0.4121
21. Steve Nash 0.3936
22. Shawn Marion 0.3285
23. Gilbert Arenas 0.3130
24. Yao Ming 0.3071
25. Chauncey Billups0.2174
26. Manu Ginobili 0.1341
27. Deron Williams 0.1307
28. Elton Brand 0.1219
29. Joe Johnson 0.0996
30. Carlos Boozer 0.0743
31. Antawn Jamison 0.0736
32. Baron Davis 0.0703
33. Richard Hamilton0.0587
34. Lamar Odom 0.0517
35. Jermaine O'Neal 0.0331
36. Peja Stojakovic 0.0267
37. Zach Randolph 0.0263
38. Derek Fisher 0.0247
39. Caron Butler 0.0177
40. Michael Redd 0.0172
41. Jason Terry 0.0169
42. Jerry Stackhouse0.0154
43. David West 0.0146
44. Andre Miller 0.0135
45. Ron Artest 0.0109
46. Andre Iguodala 0.0091
47. Danny Granger 0.0091
48. Mike Bibby 0.0089
49. Jason Richardson0.0085
50. Raymond Felton 0.0081

As it stands of right now this is basketball reference's Hall of Fame Probability system. http://www.basketball-reference.com/about/hof_prob.html that's the explanation of the method.

Some really interesting things from that... Vince Carter, Tracy McGrady and Chris Bosh all more likely to make it into the hall over two-time MVP Steve Nash?

Are individual accolades (like MVP's, finals MVP's etc.) included in the formula? It's quite surprising to see some players like Shawn Marion and Gilbert Arenas with more of a chance of making it than finals MVP Chauncey Billups.

PhillyFaninLA
06-20-2011, 10:24 AM
Keep in mind the NBA does not have a hall of fame this is the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame.

A players complete body of work can put them in. A great college player that was always injured in the NBA or never even played in the NBA can make the hall.

When you say yes or no about a player take into account what they did outside of the NBA and even a bust in the NBA can make the Hall if they where that good in college or in international competition.


edit: Here are its members

http://www.hoophall.com/hall-of-famers-index/

Entry requirements (notice under players it talks about retirement length but not level played at, that is because the NBA is a basketball one and not an NBA one.) :

http://www.hoophall.com/enshrinement-process/

Chacarron
06-20-2011, 10:24 AM
Pau Gasol will be in the HOF as well.

JWO35
06-20-2011, 10:32 AM
Tayshaun Prince, Carlos Boozer, and Michael Redd....just because they were benchwarmers for the Redeem Team.

effen5
06-20-2011, 10:35 AM
This decade has been pretty pathetic with the exception of a few.....

xnick5757
06-20-2011, 10:35 AM
only one I would add would be brian scalabrine

Swashcuff
06-20-2011, 10:50 AM
Some really interesting things from that... Vince Carter, Tracy McGrady and Chris Bosh all more likely to make it into the hall over two-time MVP Steve Nash?

Are individual accolades (like MVP's, finals MVP's etc.) included in the formula? It's quite surprising to see some players like Shawn Marion and Gilbert Arenas with more of a chance of making it than finals MVP Chauncey Billups.

Its really interesting that those players a more favoured than Nash. IMO the formula does indeed have its flaws but for discussion purposes I think its a good start.

Really favors people who produce lots of points and rebounds per game (e.g., Bosh), and doesn't bode well for guys like Billups, who took a bit more time to bloom.

As far as Nash goes I think the website has an issue or something and did not realise what happened. Prior to last season he was near 99% and now he's at 39. 60% drop after one season, can't be correct.

http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx187/Swashcuff/Basketball/Untitled.jpg

As far as personal accolades being included I don't think so.

Swashcuff
06-20-2011, 04:29 PM
We spoke about players, what about coaches. Phil (recently retired) Pop, Nelly, Karl?

PhillyFaninLA
06-20-2011, 04:42 PM
We spoke about players, what about coaches. Phil (recently retired) Pop, Nelly, Karl?

Nelly? not sure who you mean.

Phil Jackson, Pat Riley, Greg Popovich, George Karl, and Larry Brown should all be locks.

Depending on what the Sixers and Bulls over the next 10 years Thibs and Collins may deserve to be in the conversation.

RaiderLakersA's
06-20-2011, 04:45 PM
We spoke about players, what about coaches. Phil (recently retired) Pop, Nelly, Karl?

Yes, I expect all of those coaches to get in.

RaiderLakersA's
06-20-2011, 04:46 PM
Nelly? not sure who you mean.

Phil Jackson, Pat Riley, Greg Popovich, George Karl, and Larry Brown should all be locks.

Depending on what the Sixers and Bulls over the next 10 years Thibs and Collins may deserve to be in the conversation.


Nelly = Coach Don Nelson.

Swashcuff
06-20-2011, 04:46 PM
Nelly? not sure who you mean.

Phil Jackson, Pat Riley, Greg Popovich, George Karl, and Larry Brown should all be locks.

Depending on what the Sixers and Bulls over the next 10 years Thibs and Collins may deserve to be in the conversation.

Don Nelson the all time winningest regular season coach in NBA history.

PhillyFaninLA
06-20-2011, 04:48 PM
Nelly = Coach Don Nelson.

Thanks I never heard him with that nickname.

I'd have no problem with Nelson in as well.

kdspurman
06-20-2011, 05:14 PM
I'd take tony parker off that list, and put manu. Manu is likely a shoe in as it's the basketball hall of fame, not nba... his stats and resume from playing with argentina are formidable

gsgs49
06-20-2011, 05:42 PM
Rank Player HoF Prob
1. Kobe Bryant 1.0000
2. Shaquille O'Neal1.0000
3. Tim Duncan 0.9999
4. Kevin Garnett 0.9986
5. LeBron James 0.9925
6. Dwyane Wade 0.9909
7. Dirk Nowitzki 0.9817
8. Paul Pierce 0.9759
9. Jason Kidd 0.9605
10. Ray Allen 0.9466
11. Vince Carter 0.8664
12. Chris Paul 0.7690
13. Tracy McGrady 0.6643
14. Amare Stoudemire0.6198
15. Pau Gasol 0.6006
16. Carmelo Anthony 0.5988
17. Tony Parker 0.5713
18. Chris Bosh 0.5369
19. Dwight Howard 0.4882
20. Grant Hill 0.4121
21. Steve Nash 0.3936
22. Shawn Marion 0.3285
23. Gilbert Arenas 0.3130
24. Yao Ming 0.3071
25. Chauncey Billups0.2174
26. Manu Ginobili 0.1341
27. Deron Williams 0.1307
28. Elton Brand 0.1219
29. Joe Johnson 0.0996
30. Carlos Boozer 0.0743
31. Antawn Jamison 0.0736
32. Baron Davis 0.0703
33. Richard Hamilton0.0587
34. Lamar Odom 0.0517
35. Jermaine O'Neal 0.0331
36. Peja Stojakovic 0.0267
37. Zach Randolph 0.0263
38. Derek Fisher 0.0247
39. Caron Butler 0.0177
40. Michael Redd 0.0172
41. Jason Terry 0.0169
42. Jerry Stackhouse0.0154
43. David West 0.0146
44. Andre Miller 0.0135
45. Ron Artest 0.0109
46. Andre Iguodala 0.0091
47. Danny Granger 0.0091
48. Mike Bibby 0.0089
49. Jason Richardson0.0085
50. Raymond Felton 0.0081

As it stands of right now this is basketball reference's Hall of Fame Probability system. http://www.basketball-reference.com/about/hof_prob.html that's the explanation of the method.

Interesting,but I don't think it means a lot.
Chris Mullin has a HOF probability of 0.1158 and he's going to be a HOFer
Calvin Murphy has a HOF probability of 0.0392 and he's a HOFer
Jo Jo White has a HOF probability of 0.8427 and he's not a HOFer

210Don
06-20-2011, 06:15 PM
how is timmy d not 100% smfh...

Avenged
06-20-2011, 06:23 PM
Rank Player HoF Prob
1. Kobe Bryant 1.0000
2. Shaquille O'Neal1.0000
3. Tim Duncan 0.9999
4. Kevin Garnett 0.9986
5. LeBron James 0.9925
6. Dwyane Wade 0.9909
7. Dirk Nowitzki 0.9817
8. Paul Pierce 0.9759
9. Jason Kidd 0.9605
10. Ray Allen 0.9466
11. Vince Carter 0.8664
12. Chris Paul 0.7690
13. Tracy McGrady 0.6643
14. Amare Stoudemire0.6198
15. Pau Gasol 0.6006
16. Carmelo Anthony 0.5988
17. Tony Parker 0.5713
18. Chris Bosh 0.5369
19. Dwight Howard 0.4882
20. Grant Hill 0.4121
21. Steve Nash 0.3936
22. Shawn Marion 0.3285
23. Gilbert Arenas 0.3130
24. Yao Ming 0.3071
25. Chauncey Billups0.2174
26. Manu Ginobili 0.1341
27. Deron Williams 0.1307
28. Elton Brand 0.1219
29. Joe Johnson 0.0996
30. Carlos Boozer 0.0743
31. Antawn Jamison 0.0736
32. Baron Davis 0.0703
33. Richard Hamilton0.0587
34. Lamar Odom 0.0517
35. Jermaine O'Neal 0.0331
36. Peja Stojakovic 0.0267
37. Zach Randolph 0.0263
38. Derek Fisher 0.0247
39. Caron Butler 0.0177
40. Michael Redd 0.0172
41. Jason Terry 0.0169
42. Jerry Stackhouse0.0154
43. David West 0.0146
44. Andre Miller 0.0135
45. Ron Artest 0.0109
46. Andre Iguodala 0.0091
47. Danny Granger 0.0091
48. Mike Bibby 0.0089
49. Jason Richardson0.0085
50. Raymond Felton 0.0081

As it stands of right now this is basketball reference's Hall of Fame Probability system. http://www.basketball-reference.com/about/hof_prob.html that's the explanation of the method.

Surprised to see Amare ahead of Pau in the HOF.. Pau has accomplished a lot more than him. Also shocked to see a 2 time MVP not be in the top 20.

Cano4prez
06-20-2011, 06:23 PM
As of right now these are who I think will be goin to the HOF.

Western Conference -
Kobe Bryant
Tim Duncan
Tony Parker
Vince Carter
Steve Nash
Dirk Novitski
Jason Kidd
Derek Fisher
Grant Hill
Yao Ming
Manu Ginobli
Chris Paul

Time Will Tell-
Kevin Durant
Manu Ginobli
Blake Griffin
Russel Westbrook
Kevin Love
Tyreke Evans bg

Eastern Conference-
Kevin Garnet
Ray Allen
Paul Pierce
Lebron James
Dwayne Wade
Dwight Howard
Carmelo Anthony
Amare Stoudemire
Chauncy Billups

Time Will Tell-
Deron Williams
Danny Granger
Chris Bosh
Derrick Rose

I could of missed some:shrug:. Who did I miss and what do you think about my list?

The ones I bolded do not have HOF credentials or are simply too young right now (Dwight and Paul)

Swashcuff
06-20-2011, 06:31 PM
Surprised to see Amare ahead of Pau in the HOF.. Pau has accomplished a lot more than him. Also shocked to see a 2 time MVP not be in the top 20.

As I stated in my reply to Wiz it's rather confusing how Nash could drop a full 60% in a season and a half. There must be something wrong with the system and the website is yet to pick up on it. I can't see how Nash could have free fallen so badly in just one season.

Khalifa21
06-20-2011, 07:02 PM
Its really interesting that those players a more favoured than Nash. IMO the formula does indeed have its flaws but for discussion purposes I think its a good start.

Really favors people who produce lots of points and rebounds per game (e.g., Bosh), and doesn't bode well for guys like Billups, who took a bit more time to bloom.

As far as Nash goes I think the website has an issue or something and did not realise what happened. Prior to last season he was near 99% and now he's at 39. 60% drop after one season, can't be correct.

http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx187/Swashcuff/Basketball/Untitled.jpg

As far as personal accolades being included I don't think so.

Yeah, that is quite strange... I definitely agree that it's a good starting point when discussing something like this. Apart from a few discrepancies here and there, it all looks pretty legit in terms of who should be getting in to the hall over others.