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Mile High Champ
06-17-2011, 12:43 PM
Hey guys, Some of you may remember that for the last three years I have conducted a poll at the end of the season that had PSD users vote for the top 10 players at each position. Its is now that time to vote! I would like to start this up once more considering the NBA season is now over and we can get to this discussion since lots has changed since the start of last season. Please TRY AND VOTE FOR THE BEST PLAYER AND DON'T BE A HOMER. I will leave the poll open for one day and than we can carry on to the next best player at that position. I will add more players after each round. I have also included the results of those last 3 years so everyone can see how much things have changed...Enjoy.

REMEMBER this is based on who is the best player, not the player who has the potential to be the best

Here is a comparison of 12 players in the poll from last season.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=rondora01&y1=2011&p2=parketo01&y2=2011&p3=kiddja01&y3=2011&p4=billuch01&y4=2011&p5=curryst01&y5=2011&p6=lowryky01&y6=2011

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=lawsoty01&y1=2011&p2=conlemi01&y2=2011&p3=feltora01&y3=2011&p4=walljo01&y4=2011&p5=holidjr01&y5=2011&p6=millean02&y6=2011

2011 Top 10 PG RANKINGS

1) Chris Paul
2) Derrick Rose
3) Deron Williams
4) Russell Westbrook
5) Steve Nash
6)
7)
8)
9)
10)


2010 Off-Season PSD PG Rankings
1) Deron Williams
2) Chris Paul
3) Steve Nash
4) Rajon Rondo
5) Derrick Rose
6) Chauncey Billups
7) Russel Westbrook
8) Tony Parker
9) Jason Kidd
10) Tyreke Evans

2009 Off-Season PSD PG Rankings
1) Chris Paul
2) Deron Williams
3) Chauncey Billups
4) Tony Parker
5) Steve Nash
6) Derrick Rose
7) Devin Harris
8) Rajon Rondo
9) Jose Calderon
10) Jason Kidd

2008 Off-Season PSD PG Rankings
1) Chris Paul
2) Steve Nash
3) Deron Williams
4) Baron Davis
5) Tony Parker
6) Jason Kidd
7) Chauncey Billups
8) Gilbert Arenas
9) Jose Calderon
10) Andre Miller

Mile High Champ
06-17-2011, 12:48 PM
If this poll ends up with Rondo running away with it early, we will close it and move on to 7.

LTBaByyy
06-17-2011, 12:52 PM
This has to be Rondo

ManRam
06-17-2011, 12:53 PM
Rondo should win this one near-unanimously.

Mile High Champ
06-17-2011, 12:54 PM
Here is in my opinion the top 6 guys in a comp against each other..

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=rondora01&y1=2011&p2=parketo01&y2=2011&p3=kiddja01&y3=2011&p4=billuch01&y4=2011&p5=curryst01&y5=2011&p6=lowryky01&y6=2011

Chacarron
06-17-2011, 12:56 PM
Le Blur.

Mile High Champ
06-17-2011, 12:57 PM
For me this is Tony parker. He has Rondo beat in my opinion. I just can't ignore how bad of an offesnsive player Rondo is and how bad he is as a shooter. Plus Parker has him easily beast in Win shares and has the highest PER of any PG left on the board.

SteBO
06-17-2011, 01:00 PM
Now, it's Rondo. Though now that I think about it, Parker might be the better option for 6th.

Mile High Champ
06-17-2011, 01:02 PM
Here is a comparison of the 6 players in the poll from last season.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=rondora01&y1=2011&p2=parketo01&y2=2011&p3=kiddja01&y3=2011&p4=billuch01&y4=2011&p5=curryst01&y5=2011&p6=lowryky01&y6=2011

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=lawsoty01&y1=2011&p2=conlemi01&y2=2011&p3=feltora01&y3=2011&p4=walljo01&y4=2011&p5=holidjr01&y5=2011&p6=millean02&y6=2011

Hawkeye15
06-17-2011, 01:02 PM
Parker for me

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=parketo01&y1=2011&p2=rondora01&y2=2011

Parker is a good enough defensive player to keep that gap close, and Parker is a far superior offensive player. I can not ignore Rondo's regression through the year.

Mile High Champ
06-17-2011, 01:05 PM
Parker for me

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=parketo01&y1=2011&p2=rondora01&y2=2011

Parker is a good enough defensive player to keep that gap close, and Parker is a far superior offensive player. I can not ignore Rondo's regression through the year.

Agreed, this is right on the mark.

Cool007
06-17-2011, 01:06 PM
Now, it's Rondo. Though now that I think about it, Parker has a case here.

+1.

IMO, Tony Parker has Finals MVP and has won few championships already as their big time player along with TD and Manu.

I think Tony Parker is big time underrated whenever there is a talk about top PGs.

I think Rondo and TP are very close but since TP can be your go-to scorer in the final moments of the 4th qtr, I give him the nod.

kozelkid
06-17-2011, 01:09 PM
I originally voted for Rondo, although now I think Parker is better. Wish I could have changed my vote... :sigh:

SteBO
06-17-2011, 01:12 PM
I originally voted for Rondo, although now I think Parker is better. Wish I could have changed my vote... :sigh:

That's how I feel right now. Parker is superior on the offense end by a mile, and now and based on what Hawkeye, Cool007, and MHC posted, the defense isn't all that far off and the offensive difference is obvious. I've changed my tune and now say that Parker should get the nod here.

Chronz
06-17-2011, 01:13 PM
Rondo should win this one near-unanimously.
By popularity or performance?

YoungOne
06-17-2011, 01:15 PM
now even tony parker?? LMFAO

Jetsguy
06-17-2011, 01:16 PM
Came down to Rondo, Billups, and Parker for me here. I know Rondo had a down year but he is still an elite PG in this league with his pure PG skills

SteBO
06-17-2011, 01:17 PM
now even tony parker?? LMFAO

Rondo's winning the polls right now, but I think the margin of difference regarding the offensive is way too big to ignore, and the defense if you look at the statistics, isn't that far off. Parker, to me, a little more well balanced right now.

ne3xchamps
06-17-2011, 01:17 PM
The only down fall to rondo is his foul shooting and no jump shot. but if you really think about it he is a PURE point guard. Always looks to dish the ball to his teammates first. He wants to be the guy who gets his teammates involved and steal the ball before he looks to score. If he develops a jumps shot, he will be top 3.

Avenged
06-17-2011, 01:18 PM
For me this is Tony parker. He has Rondo beat in my opinion. I just can't ignore how bad of an offesnsive player Rondo is and how bad he is as a shooter. Plus Parker has him easily beast in Win shares and has the highest PER of any PG left on the board.


Parker for me

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=parketo01&y1=2011&p2=rondora01&y2=2011

Parker is a good enough defensive player to keep that gap close, and Parker is a far superior offensive player. I can not ignore Rondo's regression through the year.

Same. I said I would vote for Parker for #6 in the #5 PG thread, and now I'm actually surprised that you 2 are as well which is a good thing. ;)

Although Rondo is a great defender, Parker is a more efficient player and better overall. This comparison isn't like the Nash one, where Nash is superior offensively but no defense, whereas Rondo is superior defensively with no offense. Here, Parker is a better offensive player, and although Rondo is better defensively, Parker isn't a scrub himself on that end.

Shoot, Parker plays 5 less minutes & does more. How does a PG shoot 56% from the charity stripe?

allSUAVE
06-17-2011, 01:19 PM
Tony parker

AntiG
06-17-2011, 01:20 PM
Rondo. He should have solidly been #4 over Nash and Westbrook (who should be 6th).

The_Pharouh
06-17-2011, 01:31 PM
Rondo

PatsSoxKnicks
06-17-2011, 01:32 PM
I just realized how bad Rondo's TS% was last year (49.5%) and with a below average Usage rate no less. Definitely one of the most overrated players in the league last year.

Sadds The Gr8
06-17-2011, 01:36 PM
I originally voted for Rondo, although now I think Parker is better. Wish I could have changed my vote... :sigh:
same here.

I just realized how bad Rondo's TS% was last year (49.5%) and with a below average Usage rate no less. Definitely one of the most overrated players in the league last year.

i just saw that a couple hrs ago right after i voted for him :facepalm: that's atrocious. he's very overrated.

Hustlenomics
06-17-2011, 01:39 PM
I like how we skipped the # 3 poll when nobody else was near Deron but we go to this one ..Y'all some haters

Ezio
06-17-2011, 01:41 PM
Rubio.











I voted for Rondo. If he was healthy the C's would of probably pushed it to 7.

PatsSoxKnicks
06-17-2011, 01:45 PM
same here.


i just saw that a couple hrs ago right after i voted for him :facepalm: that's atrocious. he's very overrated.

He was essentially a better version of Jason Kidd this year.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=rondora01&y1=2011&p2=kiddja01&y2=2011

Both have no offense (TS% and low Usg%), create for others and play good defense. Plus, Kidd outperformed Rondo in the playoffs (though I know Rondo was injured for 2 games).

And to the people who will undoubtedly say Rondo should be here because of his ring, Tony Parker has 3 rings. And Jason Kidd won his ring this year. Billups also has a ring (and a Finals MVP). So there goes that theory....Yes, its been 3 years since Rondo has won a ring, so lets stop using that as a reason for him to be in the top 5 PGs.

ManningToTyree
06-17-2011, 01:47 PM
Rondo. again.

Hustlenomics
06-17-2011, 01:54 PM
don't even tell me Rondo isn't capable on offense he lit Tony up this year
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqqqQT2lL9A
^ the big three holding him back offensively if anything, he's just comfortable in his role of being a distributor and it won them a championship, nothing wrong with that

SteBO
06-17-2011, 01:57 PM
don't even tell me Rondo isn't capable on offense he lit Tony up this year
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqqqQT2lL9A
^ the big three holding him back offensively if anything, he's just comfortable in his role of being a distributor and it won them a championship, nothing wrong with that
But he regressed a little as the year went on though after the great start he had. That's what has me staying away from putting him above Parker, but please tell you aren't using a youtube clip to back your argument. :eyebrow:

jim51990
06-17-2011, 01:58 PM
this poll is a joke
though i would still put d-will over cp3 his stop is the only one that is correct

greg_ory_2005
06-17-2011, 02:00 PM
Rondooooooo

NBA-GMaster
06-17-2011, 02:04 PM
If rondo wins this, im sure parker will be no.7..

PatsSoxKnicks
06-17-2011, 02:04 PM
don't even tell me Rondo isn't capable on offense he lit Tony up this year
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqqqQT2lL9A
^ the big three holding him back offensively if anything, he's just comfortable in his role of being a distributor and it won them a championship, nothing wrong with that

A youtube clip? You're judging who's better based on a youtube clip? hahhaha

The big 3 holding him back offensively? Maybe whats holding him back offensively is his inability to make a free throw. That and he can't make a jumpshot either. lolz

And he won them a championship? All by himself? No, the big 3 were much more important, especially in 08. Pierce with the Finals MVP and KG with the all-world defense. Sorry thats more important then Rondo's role.

And Tony Parker has won 3 championships. And he was a central player too. After all, he's got a Finals MVP. Part of the Spurs big 3. There goes Rondo's championship advantage.

And for what its worth,
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=rondora01&p2=parketo01

Tony Parker has more then held his own against Rondo. Rondo's shooting #'s vs. Parker are pretty bad though.

Lol at this whole post. Homerism at its finest.

And to be honest, none of what I mentioned there really matters. Parker was a better player this past year then Rondo. Look at the numbers Hawkeye posted.

Swashcuff
06-17-2011, 02:06 PM
Rondo here IMO.

Avenged
06-17-2011, 02:11 PM
don't even tell me Rondo isn't capable on offense he lit Tony up this year
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqqqQT2lL9A
^ the big three holding him back offensively if anything, he's just comfortable in his role of being a distributor and it won them a championship, nothing wrong with that

The youtube video doesn't really prove anything..

But as far as Rondo being capable offensively, the advanced statistics would depict that but they don't. Rondo has a lower USG% but his offensive game is still bad as compared to Parkers. If you have a low USG% as compared to a high USG%, and the one with the low USG% is still putting up less efficient numbers, that itself tells you something.

If someone with a high USG is outperforming someone else with a similar USG% or less, that tells you that the guy is the better player (or more efficient). And I still can't get over the fact that a Point Guard shoots 56% from the free throw line.

Hustlenomics
06-17-2011, 02:12 PM
But he regressed a little as the year went on though after the great start he had. That's what has me staying away from putting him above Parker, but please tell you aren't using a youtube clip to back your argument. :eyebrow:

he had plantar fasciitis and a bad ankle the whole season, 95 % of players would have missed more time because of that. I watched the game I just rather show footage than a boxscore

CHANGO
06-17-2011, 02:21 PM
Rondo, Parker get my next vote.

Mile High Champ
06-17-2011, 02:31 PM
People are taking popularity over production..

Hustlenomics
06-17-2011, 02:37 PM
^ which is why after Chris Paul this whole list is messed up

MacFitz92
06-17-2011, 02:42 PM
By performance, I believe Rondo should wipe the floor with everyone else. He's the best defender and distributor, bar-none left. I think he should've been #4 in all honesty, and there really is a misconception of what the PG is supposed to do, which is play defense and run the team. Rondo is one of the best, and it's a testament to how focused people are on numbers for a PG.

I'll take Rondo without a shadow of a doubt.

PatsSoxKnicks
06-17-2011, 02:44 PM
People are taking popularity over production..

Yup, especially for this #6 PG.

Khalifa21
06-17-2011, 02:48 PM
#6 - Rajon Rondo
#7 - Tony Parker
#8 - Chauncey Billups
#9 - Jason Kidd
#10 - Steph Curry

Swashcuff
06-17-2011, 02:49 PM
#6 - Rajon Rondo
#7 - Tony Parker
#8 - Chauncey Billups
#9 - Jason Kidd
#10 - Steph Curry

:nod:

PatsSoxKnicks
06-17-2011, 02:52 PM
By performance, I believe Rondo should wipe the floor with everyone else. He's the best defender and distributor, bar-none left. I think he should've been #4 in all honesty, and there really is a misconception of what the PG is supposed to do, which is play defense and run the team. Rondo is one of the best, and it's a testament to how focused people are on numbers for a PG.

I'll take Rondo without a shadow of a doubt.

I really don't think PG defense is that important. There's a lot of bad PGs defensively who are covered up by interior D. Rondo himself isn't that great. He's just a very good defender for a PG. But is he a lockdown defender, like a Tony Allen for example? No. He also gambles a lot, which most PGs do. And they can do that because they know they have the interior defense behind them (at least the good defensive teams do).

And there's more then 1 way to skin a cat. There's no rule that says a PG has to be a distributor. No doubt guys like Rose and Westbrook are very different from Rondo, Nash and even CP3. However, even if we're talking PURE PGs, I still have Rondo behind Nash and CP3. Those guys are just as good passers but can also shoot (off say the pick & roll).

And the fact that Rondo's a PG and is so awful from the FT line has to be factored in. The Celts can't even keep the ball in his hands at the end of games because he's such a poor free throw shooter. He was especially bad this year.

Overall, Rondo's production this year wasn't that great. And I don't think Perkins not being there should be used as an excuse. His 2nd half was bad no matter how you look at it.

Hustlenomics
06-17-2011, 02:53 PM
If this poll ends up with Rondo running away with it early, we will close it and move on to 7.

be a man of your word

B'sCeltsPatsSox
06-17-2011, 02:53 PM
Rondo should have been number four. Voting for him here.

Avenged
06-17-2011, 02:56 PM
I really don't think PG defense is that important. There's a lot of bad PGs defensively who are covered up by interior D. Rondo himself isn't that great. He's just a very good defender for a PG. But is he a lockdown defender, like a Tony Allen for example? No. He also gambles a lot, which most PGs do. And they can do that because they know they have the interior defense behind them (at least the good defensive teams do).

And there's more then 1 way to skin a cat. There's no rule that says a PG has to be a distributor. No doubt guys like Rose and Westbrook are very different from Rondo, Nash and even CP3. However, even if we're talking PURE PGs, I still have Rondo behind Nash and CP3. Those guys are just as good passers but can also shoot (off say the pick & roll).

And the fact that Rondo's a PG and is so awful from the FT line has to be factored in. The Celts can't even keep the ball in his hands at the end of games because he's such a poor free throw shooter. He was especially bad this year.

Overall, Rondo's production this year wasn't that great. And I don't think Perkins not being there should be used as an excuse. His 2nd half was bad no matter how you look at it.

Not only that but the guy turns the ball over 3 times per game while his turnover percentage is at 24.3 as compared to Parker's 14.3

Hustlenomics
06-17-2011, 02:58 PM
Rondo should have been number four. Voting for him here.

http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/rsrc.php/v1/z6/r/l9Fe9Ugss0S.gif Hustlenomics likes this

SteBO
06-17-2011, 03:00 PM
Good to see Jason Kidd and Kyle Lowry getting some love amid this Rondo vs. Parker debate.

AntiG
06-17-2011, 04:24 PM
If rondo wins this, im sure parker will be no.7..

Personally, I'd vote Kidd over Parker.

Jewelz0376
06-17-2011, 04:58 PM
Rondo is a better defender, distributor, and rebounder...while Parker is only the better scorer...I'll go with Rondo...

Giraffes Rule
06-17-2011, 05:49 PM
Personally, I'd vote Kidd over Parker.

Based on what? Tony Parker beats him out in almost every offensive category, and Kidd is only marginally better than him on the defensive side.

Hustlenomics
06-17-2011, 05:56 PM
Parker gets burned by every point guard he faces how is he near of a good defender as Jason Kidd?

Giraffes Rule
06-17-2011, 05:58 PM
Parker gets burned by every point guard he faces how is he near of a good defender as Jason Kidd?

:facepalm:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=parketo01&y1=2011&p2=kiddja01&y2=2011

Raps18-19 Champ
06-17-2011, 06:13 PM
How Rondo is not top 5 amazes me.

Hustlenomics
06-17-2011, 06:49 PM
:facepalm:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=parketo01&y1=2011&p2=kiddja01&y2=2011

Jason Kidd has him beat on Defensive rebounding %,steal %,block %, and Defensive win shares, I dont get your facepalm? plus this doesn't show me how they move their feet on D and guard their man

jp611
06-17-2011, 06:52 PM
I originally voted for Rondo, although now I think Parker is better. Wish I could have changed my vote... :sigh:

Yea, I did the same thing

SportsFanatic10
06-17-2011, 07:10 PM
i don't like him but its definately rondo here.

AIMelo=KillaDUO
06-17-2011, 07:27 PM
Double R

NetsPaint
06-17-2011, 07:34 PM
Went with Billups on this one, although maybe I should have went with Parker.

playmaker_41
06-17-2011, 07:35 PM
rajon 6th and then kidd

TheRunKiller
06-17-2011, 07:37 PM
Ronda then Parker

Giraffes Rule
06-17-2011, 07:53 PM
Jason Kidd has him beat on Defensive rebounding %,steal %,block %, and Defensive win shares, I dont get your facepalm? plus this doesn't show me how they move their feet on D and guard their man

That's because you don't know how to read stats.

Redbull
06-17-2011, 08:01 PM
Tony Parker.

tyfreaks brotha
06-17-2011, 11:26 PM
Easily Rondo

Hawkeye15
06-17-2011, 11:58 PM
he had plantar fasciitis and a bad ankle the whole season, 95 % of players would have missed more time because of that. I watched the game I just rather show footage than a boxscore

And this is why Tyreke Evans won't make top 5-10 SG's......

You are as good as recent history many times, if you have never proven to be a player that commands our respect. Fact is, Rondo sucks offensively, and his assist numbers took a nosedive throughout the season.

Without showing us some stupid youtube video, or calling us haters, please tell us why Rondo should be ranked over Parker.

Piercefan34
06-18-2011, 12:12 AM
because PG is primarily a distribution position and rondo was second in assists this year...one reason off the top of my head.

Hawkeye15
06-18-2011, 12:15 AM
because PG is primarily a distribution position and rondo was second in assists this year...one reason off the top of my head.

No, a PG runs his team's offense. You don't need to average a set amount of assists. You need to run your teams offense.

Who says a PG's main responsibility is to distribute? Where in the Bill Sharman book does it say this?

A PG's job is to efficiently run an offense. Forget about defense, since many here claim a "true" PG is one who gets a lot of assists. You can not ignore the fact that Rondo is a complete liability in one aspect of the game.

DR_1
06-18-2011, 12:31 AM
Gotta be Rondo.

EDIT: Can we do these polls 4 other positions? I think PF and C would be especially interesting.

Sadds The Gr8
06-18-2011, 12:47 AM
Gotta be Rondo.

EDIT: Can we do these polls 4 other positions? I think PF and C would be especially interesting.

yea we do it for all the positions, and i think top 10 players as well

IversonIsKrazy
06-18-2011, 01:59 AM
Parker then Rondo. Nash is still better than Westbrooke imo as well.

NYMetros
06-18-2011, 09:02 AM
Tony Parker.

NBA-GMaster
06-18-2011, 10:55 AM
TP for no.7!!

Nighthawk
06-18-2011, 11:06 AM
RONDO should be 4 not 6...Rondo is more complete with the rebounding and defense thand westbrook or nash

Greet
06-18-2011, 11:11 AM
PSD is ********.

D-Rose over D-Will

Westbrook #4

Nash #5

lmao

tcav701
06-18-2011, 11:18 AM
PSD is ********.

D-Rose over D-Will

Westbrook #4

Nash #5

lmao

:clap:

Swashcuff
06-18-2011, 11:20 AM
RONDO should be 4 not 6...Rondo is more complete with the rebounding and defense thand westbrook or nash

:confused:

Westbrook rebounds just as good as Rondo and his D is just about equal not to mention he is more versatile in that regard.

Greet
06-18-2011, 11:24 AM
:confused:

Westbrook rebounds just as good as Rondo and his D is just about equal not to mention he is more versatile in that regard.

No his D isn't just about equal to Rondo.

Swashcuff
06-18-2011, 11:34 AM
No his D isn't just about equal to Rondo.

http://www.82games.com/1011/10OKC3.HTM

Westbrook's numbers.

http://www.82games.com/1011/10BOS2.HTM

Rondo's.

Scroll down and compare the differences defensively. Also take a look at their respective late game productivity. Now tell me aren't they virtual equals on that end of the floor with the slight edge in Westbrook's favour.

Delfiffer
06-18-2011, 03:37 PM
what is this list based on? who had the better 2011 season? better 2011 playoffs? or better for next season 2012?

for me though, id prolly say parker is better than rondo. Id also rather have stephen curry over rondo

Illinirob83
06-19-2011, 12:29 PM
Why would anyone want Rondo over Tony Parker? How can people be so strict with the eff arguments for some people but not with others? Rondo is borderline top 10 at best.

Avenged
06-19-2011, 03:45 PM
^ In terms of what your team needs, I would pick Rondo over Parker depending on the circumstances.. But in terms of overall, who's better, without knowing the teams players, I would definitely go with Parker. I don't think Rondo is borderline top 10 though, I'd definitely put him at 7.

Rivera
06-19-2011, 04:11 PM
rondo here....

he would have been in the top 5 if he had stayed healthy with his heel and he probably would have had a better game 4 and 5 for people to remember if he hadn't got hurt

Afridi786
06-19-2011, 11:59 PM
Damn, the list really drops off considerably after the top 5.

Sky Hook
06-20-2011, 09:10 AM
Why Rondo is better than Tony Parker?!

The Spurs' PG has won 3 Nba titles and a Mvp Finals Award. Rondo is a good player but he is young and he has yet to demonstrate his value ...

jp611
06-20-2011, 09:25 AM
When is #7 coming up?

Sportfan
06-20-2011, 09:36 AM
:confused:

Westbrook rebounds just as good as Rondo and his D is just about equal not to mention he is more versatile in that regard.
Westbrook is an average defender.

Sportfan
06-20-2011, 09:37 AM
Why Rondo is better than Tony Parker?!

The Spurs' PG has won 3 Nba titles and a Mvp Finals Award. Rondo is a good player but he is young and he has yet to demonstrate his value ...
Parker has more rings than everyone in the top 5 as well. He's older than 4 of them too....

Swashcuff
06-20-2011, 09:39 AM
Westbrook is an average defender.

My eye test and the statistics say otherwise.

Swashcuff
06-20-2011, 09:39 AM
When is #7 coming up?

Mile High Champ has been MIA.... when he returns I guess he'll put it up.

Mile High Champ
06-20-2011, 10:12 AM
Number 7 is up..