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ManRam
05-29-2011, 05:49 PM
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(3rd Seed, 57-25) ----------(2nd Seed, 58-24)



Tuesday, May 31st 2011 9:00 PM ET

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Series Tied 0-0


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Projected Starting Lineups


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http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff518/mrfp24/KIDDDD.gif -- PG --http://imageshack.us/m/31/7088/73247972.jpg

............................................Jason Kidd ___________lll_____ Mike Bibby
.........................................l......7. 9 PPG_____________l_ll__.__________7.3 PPG
................................................4. 4 RPG______________ll_____.________2.2 RPG
................................................8. 2 APG______________ll____._________2.5 APG
................................................1. 7 SPG_______________lll___._________0.5 SPG
................................................0. 4 BPG_________________.__lll________0.1 BPG
.......................ll......................... 2.2 TO_______________ll_______.______1.5 TO
...............................l................36 .1 FG%_______________l___.________43.7 FG%
...............................................34. 0 3PT%_______________ll___._______45.5 3PT%
...............................................47. 2 eFG%_______________ll__.________59.5 eFG%
................................................50 .0 TS%_______________ll_____.______60.1 TS%
................................................33 .2 MPG_________________ll_._______26.5 MPG



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.....................................DeShawn Stevenson _________lll_____ Dwyane Wade
.........................................l......7. 7 PPG_____________l_ll__.__________25.5 PPG
................................................1. 5 RPG______________ll_____.________6.4 RPG
................................................1. 1 APG______________ll____._________4.6 APG
................................................0. 3 SPG_______________lll___._________1.5 SPG
................................................0. 1 BPG_________________.__lll________1.1 BPG
.......................ll......................... 0.6 TO_______________ll_______.______3.1 TO
...............................l................38 .8 FG%_______________l___.________50.0 FG%
...............................................37. 8 3PT%_______________ll___._______30.6 3PT
...............................................53. 0 eFG%_______________ll__.________52.3 eFG%
................................................54 .9 TS%_______________ll_____.______58.1 TS%
................................................16 .1 MPG_________________ll_._______37.2 MPG


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............................................Shawn Marion ___________lll____ LeBron James
.........................................l......12 .5 PPG_____________l_ll__.__________26.7 PPG
................................................6. 9 RPG______________ll_____.________2.2 RPG
................................................1. 4 APG______________ll____._________7.0 APG
................................................0. 9 SPG_______________lll___._________1.6 SPG
................................................0. 6 BPG_________________.__lll________0.1 BPG
.......................ll......................... 1.6 TO_______________ll_______.______1.5 TO
...............................l................52 .0 FG%_______________l___.________51.0 FG%
...............................................15. 2 3PT%_______________ll___._______33.0 3PT%
...............................................52. 3 eFG%_______________ll__.________54.1 eFG%
................................................55 .1 TS%_______________ll_____.______59.4 TS%
................................................28 .2 MPG_________________ll_._______38.8 MPG


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............................................Dirk Nowitzki ___________lll_____ Chris Bosh
.........................................l......23 .0 PPG_____________l_ll__.__________18.7 PPG
................................................7. 0 RPG______________ll_____.________8.3 RPG
................................................2. 6 APG______________ll____._________1.9 APG
................................................0. 5 SPG_______________lll___._________0.8 SPG
................................................0. 6 BPG_________________.__lll________0.6 BPG
.......................ll......................... 1.9 TO_______________ll_______.______1.59 TO
...............................l................51 .7 FG%_______________l___.________49.6 FG%
...............................................39. 3 3PT%_______________ll___._______24.0 3PT%
...............................................54. 5 eFG%_______________ll__.________49.9 eFG%
................................................61 .2 TS%_______________ll_____.______56.9 TS%
................................................34 .3 MPG_________________ll_._______36.3 MPG


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............................................Tyson Chandler ______lll_______ Joel Anthony
.........................................l......10 .1 PPG_____________l_ll__.__________2.0 PPG
................................................9. 4 RPG______________ll_____.________3.5 RPG
................................................0. 4 APG______________ll____._________0.3 APG
................................................0. 5 SPG_______________lll___._________0.1 SPG
................................................1. 1 BPG_________________.__lll________0.1 BPG
.......................ll......................... 1.2 TO_______________ll_______.______0.5 TO
...............................l................65 .4 FG%_______________l___.________53.5 FG%
...............................................00. 0 3PT%_______________ll___._______0.0 3PT%
...............................................65. 4 eFG%_______________ll__.________53.5 eFG%
................................................69 .7 TS%_______________ll_____.______58.3 TS%
................................................27 .8 MPG_________________ll_._______19.5 MPG


Key Bench Players

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Complete Team Stats

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ManRam
05-29-2011, 05:54 PM
If there are any errors, let me know. That took way too long to make. My brain is done for the night ;)

DoJoTheSlasher
05-29-2011, 06:01 PM
I'm gonna say Dallas wins 92-87. Dirk gets 29 points and 8 rebounds. Peja and Terry both light it up from 3 point land. Chandler gets 12 rebounds.

fishfan79
05-29-2011, 06:02 PM
think they would of done it on monday night when everyone is home, oh wells should be a fun series, good luck to both team's fans

heyman321
05-29-2011, 06:06 PM
Wow think of how much American Airlines is making off of this series....

theheatles
05-29-2011, 06:11 PM
add james jones to the heat bench, he's going to be getting more playing time in this series

ManRam
05-29-2011, 06:18 PM
add james jones to the heat bench, he's going to be getting more playing time in this series

Say please!

Mr. Baller
05-29-2011, 06:19 PM
Nice job Manram, I might have to use this for the next GT in the Heat forum. I thought of using the logos you used for projected starting lineups.

Anyway Heat win 93-88, and take a 1-0 series lead

Chacarron
05-29-2011, 06:21 PM
I got the Heat.

ManRam
05-29-2011, 06:24 PM
Nice job Manram, I might have to use this for the next GT in the Heat forum. I thought of using the logos you used for projected starting lineups.

Anyway Heat win 93-88, and take a 1-0 series lead

Knock yourself out. Use what you want.



I think the Heat start slow, but come back to win in the second half. Lower scoring, maybe like 88-84.

Mr. Baller
05-29-2011, 06:27 PM
Knock yourself out. Use what you want.



I think the Heat start slow, but come back to win in the second half. Lower scoring, maybe like 88-84.

I wish I could photoshop those pictures from ESPN to make them smaller, much better then the NBA.com pics I use. Also are those stats the playoff stats or regular season stats?

Yanks All Day
05-29-2011, 06:28 PM
Heat haven't lost at home all post season. Heat by 7.

gotoHcarolina52
05-29-2011, 06:33 PM
HEAT get blown out in game 1. Dirk goes off for 56. The Mavs bench knocks down 12 threes. Dallas takes it 115-80.

I'm a bit superstitious, so please interpret my prediction accordingly.

theheatles
05-29-2011, 06:34 PM
Let's go heat!

Baller1
05-29-2011, 06:39 PM
Heat in 5.

jp611
05-29-2011, 06:44 PM
The Heat will get game 1

m26555
05-29-2011, 06:55 PM
Mavericks win game one and take the series in six.

LTBaByyy
05-29-2011, 07:33 PM
Mavs win game 1

Dirk gets 32 points
Bosh gets 9 points

SP17
05-29-2011, 07:39 PM
Heat will win this one..

ryang
05-29-2011, 07:45 PM
Mavs win game 1

Dirk gets 32 points
Bosh gets 9 points



I hope u dont think the bosh dirk matchup will determine the series?

shep33
05-29-2011, 07:45 PM
Heat win by 16, on their way to winning the series in 5

ManRam
05-29-2011, 07:47 PM
Mavs win game 1

Dirk gets 32 points
Bosh gets 9 points

Who is guarding Bosh?

beasted86
05-29-2011, 08:00 PM
Every time I see Bibby in our starting lineup in game threads, it still confuses me.

LTBaByyy
05-29-2011, 08:54 PM
Who is guarding Bosh?

Chandler is

ManRam
05-29-2011, 08:59 PM
Chandler is

So, they're gonna bring Chandler out to the perimeter? Who mans the paint then?

I can't see that working well. Dirk can't hang with Bosh terribly well. Chandler probably can, but Bosh likes the midrange area, and if they do stick Chandler on him out there, Wade and LeBron probably are going to have a field day in the paint.

Chandler has to be the paint warden. Guarding Bosh won't allow him to do that.

LTBaByyy
05-29-2011, 09:02 PM
So, they're gonna bring Chandler out to the perimeter? Who mans the paint then?

I can't see that working well. Dirk can't hang with Bosh terribly well. Chandler probably can, but Bosh likes the midrange area, and if they do stick Chandler on him out there, Wade and LeBron probably are going to have a field day in the paint.

Chandler has to be the paint warden. Guarding Bosh won't allow him to do that.

Chandler will be fine, we did a good job against this team in the regular season (Regular season or not its the same players)

And it worked, can you tell me Bosh's stats against us during the season?

I am on my phone

Chi StateOfMind
05-29-2011, 09:05 PM
Miami hasn't lost at home yet and don't see them losing this one either.

Miami 93-88

Miami in 5.

ryang
05-29-2011, 09:07 PM
I hope they put chandler on Bosh :pray: yes u played the same players minus HASLEM AND MILLER but this is the FINALS you really think WADE and LEBRON are not gonna be playing at an entirely different level?? :crazy:

Chandler will guard Bosh for about 10 minutes then when your coach see's the dunks , layins ect he will pull the plug on that one for sure if not we win

ryang
05-29-2011, 09:09 PM
Chandler will be fine, we did a good job against this team in the regular season (Regular season or not its the same players)
And it worked, can you tell me Bosh's stats against us during the season?

I am on my phone


Said Boston , Chicago and now the Mavs...

beasted86
05-29-2011, 09:09 PM
Mavs win game 1

Dirk gets 32 points
Bosh gets 9 points

SMH.

All I hear is crying out of Maverick fans' mouths about people underrating Dirk, yet you are doing the same thing to Bosh.

I remember how Celtic & Bulls fans were going on an on about how KG and Noah would shut down Bosh and own him, yet he held his own. Now it continues how Chandler will shut down Bosh.

All I gotta say is:
20.5 PPG, 8.0 REB, 51.5% FG (against Dallas this season)
18.6 PPG, 8.9 REB, 50.3% FG (though the playoffs)

And to add, I seriously doubt Chandler will be in the game long enough to shut anyone down. He's averaging 3.5 fouls per game in these playoffs and averaged 4.5 fouls in the season series against Miami. He WILL be on the bench with foul trouble for a lot of this series. No doubt whatsoever about that.

ryang
05-29-2011, 09:11 PM
Does anyone realize when we played dallas it was a back 2 back?? meaning we played the night before and probably didnt game plan the same as now... Throw regular season out the window great players play at another level in the playoffs and if that wasnt the case wouldnt MIAMI and the MAVS have 1st place in the conferences??

TheRunKiller
05-29-2011, 09:22 PM
95-57 Mavs

Dirk 58 points

ManRam
05-29-2011, 09:24 PM
Chandler will be fine, we did a good job against this team in the regular season (Regular season or not its the same players)

And it worked, can you tell me Bosh's stats against us during the season?

I am on my phone

The whopping one game sample size yielded 9-18 shooting, 22 points and 8 boards.


Chandler might be "fine", but again, if he's guarding Bosh on the perimeter, who's manning the paint?

gotoHcarolina52
05-29-2011, 09:24 PM
95-57 Mavs

Dirk 58 points

You forgot the 1 before the "57"

ManRam
05-29-2011, 09:25 PM
Does anyone realize when we played dallas it was a back 2 back?? meaning we played the night before and probably didnt game plan the same as now... Throw regular season out the window great players play at another level in the playoffs and if that wasnt the case wouldnt MIAMI and the MAVS have 1st place in the conferences??

Who cares about regular season matchups...look where that got Chicago.

This is a much improved Miami team. Some game in November couldn't possibly mean less.

TheRunKiller
05-29-2011, 09:26 PM
You forgot the 1 before the "57"

Nope I didn't forget anything I'm sticking to that score

Bulls_fan90
05-29-2011, 09:31 PM
I see Dallas is getting zero respect, not suprised. Take one game in Miami and you'll win the series Dallas.

SteBO
05-29-2011, 09:33 PM
I see Dallas is getting zero respect, not suprised. Take one game in Miami and you'll win the series Dallas.
Dallas is getting plenty of respect nationally, though I'm not sure if you're talking about on this site or not. They've earrned respect this year, at least from me. Protecting home court will be huge for Miami.

Bulls_fan90
05-29-2011, 09:38 PM
Dallas is getting plenty of respect nationally, though I'm not sure if you're talking about on this site or not. They've earrned respect this year, at least from me. Protecting home court will be huge for Miami.

I was just referring to the responses in the GT & in the HEAT forum. I understand Miami has looked amazing this post-season but so has Dallas. I guess we'll just have to wait and see but i think it will be a tight series.

justinnum1
05-29-2011, 09:39 PM
Chandler is

Is he a better defender than noah?

ryang
05-29-2011, 09:42 PM
Nope

TheRunKiller
05-29-2011, 09:44 PM
Is he a better defender than noah?

He's pretty damn good he's gonna make it hell for bosh to score plus he's longer than Noah

ryang
05-29-2011, 09:46 PM
Bosh will be fine... Chandler cover's bosh and we win... Who is in the paint while bosh has chandler 14 feet away??

ryang
05-29-2011, 09:47 PM
Who????

ManRam
05-29-2011, 09:48 PM
Chandler is a better team defender than Noah. For sure.

However, if he's guarding Bosh, they are leaving the paint open and that's a recipe for disaster. I really think they have to throw Dirk at Bosh and hope Bosh doesn't do well (when Dirk is defending, it is often a prayer).

ManRam
05-29-2011, 09:51 PM
I see Dallas is getting zero respect, not suprised. Take one game in Miami and you'll win the series Dallas.

They've gotten plenty of respect. Hell, I said they'd make it to the WCF, and many predicted them to beat OKC (I think the majority).


I was just referring to the responses in the GT & in the HEAT forum. I understand Miami has looked amazing this post-season but so has Dallas. I guess we'll just have to wait and see but i think it will be a tight series.

Wow! Heat fans don't give them any respect? Shocking!!! Did Bulls fans give them any respect? No. Did Laker fans give Dallas respect? No. Did Knick fans give Boston respect? No. Did Spurs fans give Memphis respect? No. It goes on and no. That's not how it works. Heat fans should be giving them respect, no fan base would. That's the nature of fandom.

Bulls_fan90
05-29-2011, 10:01 PM
They've gotten plenty of respect. Hell, I said they'd make it to the WCF, and many predicted them to beat OKC (I think the majority).


Wow! Heat fans don't give them any respect? Shocking!!! Did Bulls fans give them any respect? No. Did Laker fans give Dallas respect? No. Did Knick fans give Boston respect? No. Did Spurs fans give Memphis respect? No. It goes on and no. That's not how it works. Heat fans should be giving them respect, no fan base would. That's the nature of fandom.

I'm talking about the predictions for the NBA finals. Not in previous rounds.


That's the nature of homerism not fandom. Wouldn't expect you to understand the difference between the two though.

gotoHcarolina52
05-29-2011, 10:09 PM
I'm talking about the predictions for the NBA finals. Not in previous rounds.


That's the nature of homerism not fandom. Wouldn't expect you to understand the difference between the two though.

The predictions in this thread are for game 1.

Dallas is actually favored on PSD to win the series 118 to 95 (55.4% to 44.6%). See poll (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=37139)

Given these results, do you care to revise your diatribe?

ryang
05-29-2011, 10:11 PM
hate hate hate

ManRam
05-29-2011, 10:16 PM
The predictions in this thread are for game 1.

Dallas is actually favored on PSD to win the series 118 to 95 (55.4% to 44.6%). See poll (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=37139)

Given these results, do you care to revise your diatribe?

I was just gonna post this.

The majority of PSD thinks Dallas will win the series :shrug:

12evolution 9
05-29-2011, 10:27 PM
Miami hasn't lost at home yet and don't see them losing this one either.

Miami 93-88

Miami in 5.


... this

ATX
05-29-2011, 10:27 PM
The predictions in this thread are for game 1.

Dallas is actually favored on PSD to win the series 118 to 95 (55.4% to 44.6%). See poll (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=37139)

Given these results, do you care to revise your diatribe?

Owned

I for one, have Miami in 7, and have given Dallas lot's of respect. I do have Miami at home in game. 95-91.

Crackadalic
05-29-2011, 10:43 PM
This is hard but i say miami takes game 1

SteBO
05-29-2011, 10:44 PM
Owned

I for one, have Miami in 7, and have given Dallas lot's of respect. I do have Miami at home in game. 95-91.
I took the same road you took. Dallas, while I was skeptical of them from the beggining, really impressed me to the end the year, and after sweeping the Lakers the way they did, I knew that this team was Finals bound. They have alot of weapons.

ATX
05-29-2011, 10:55 PM
I took the same road you took. Dallas, while I was skeptical of them from the beggining, really impressed me to the end the year, and after sweeping the Lakers the way they did, I knew that this team was Finals bound. They have alot of weapons.

True, I mean a team with a HOF player who has been playing like Dirk has been, A floor general and 2nd HOFer in JKidd, a revitalized 4 time All Star in Marion, a Defensive stopper in Chandler, An aged but still deadly 3 point shooter in Peja, a 6th man of the year in Terry, a great backup PG in Barea, a very serviceable backup C who would be starting in Miami in Haywood, etc. If Butler was playing too...Wow, I mean what a great assembly of talent and veteran leadership. I can't fault anyone for picking Dallas, but I'm still taking Miami in 7.

ryang
05-29-2011, 10:58 PM
i hope he doesnt kill his parents in there sleep.. Good job stebo

SteBO
05-29-2011, 10:58 PM
True, I mean a team with a HOF player who has been playing like Dirk has been, A floor general and 2nd HOFer in JKidd, a revitalized 4 time All Star in Marion, a Defensive stopper in Chandler, An aged but still deadly 3 point shooter in Peja, a 6th man of the year in Terry, a great backup PG in Barea, a very serviceable backup C who would be starting in Miami in Haywood, etc. If Butler was playing too...Wow, I mean what a great assembly of talent and veteran leadership. I can't fault anyone for picking Dallas, but I'm still taking Miami in 7.
I'm saying the Heat in 7 because stars find ways to win games when the odds are stacked against them. I'm a strong believer in this, and I'll always stick to it. In saying that though, Dallas wining this series wouldn't be a big surprise to me. They're a great team. As you said, they have a great balance of veterans, three-pointing, and a superstar in Dirk, who's been playing out of his mind all playoffs. This series will be fun.

12evolution 9
05-29-2011, 11:25 PM
call me cocky .. call me a homer...


Miami heat in 5.... Boston and Chicago did not let us score the way we usually score... we are going to find alot more open lanes...


Wade will be big this series... here we go again

Bulls_fan90
05-29-2011, 11:25 PM
The predictions in this thread are for game 1.

Dallas is actually favored on PSD to win the series 118 to 95 (55.4% to 44.6%). See poll (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=37139)

Given these results, do you care to revise your diatribe?

I was originally just talking about the GT and the predictions in the Heat forum. But i guess you're right. Never saw that other thread.

NBA_Starter
05-29-2011, 11:28 PM
I'm ready to get going!

gotoHcarolina52
05-30-2011, 11:08 AM
We Ready (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MirhN54DgWQ):

http://twitpic.com/54mijt

http://twitpic.com/54nabp

http://twitpic.com/54n9cu

Thanks to @ByTimReynolds for the pics.

h2r09
05-30-2011, 11:23 AM
people do realize the way dirk nowitzki was shut down by joel anthony this year, right? he is the perfect defender for dirk.

ANybody willing to bet me, i guarantee you the heat win this in 6 or less.

knicks_champ
05-30-2011, 11:28 AM
My heart wants the Mavs but my mind is telling me Heat.

DoJoTheSlasher
05-30-2011, 11:35 AM
people do realize the way dirk nowitzki was shut down by joel anthony this year, right? he is the perfect defender for dirk.

ANybody willing to bet me, i guarantee you the heat win this in 6 or less.

1. That's the regular season. This is the playoffs.

2. Joel Anthony isn't 1 millionth of the player Dirk is....

3. If Anthony guards Dirk, it's 80 points a game.

Wanna keep pulling random **** out of your ***? No pun intended.

gotoHcarolina52
05-30-2011, 11:49 AM
1. That's the regular season. This is the playoffs.

2. Joel Anthony isn't 1 millionth of the player Dirk is....

3. If Anthony guards Dirk, it's 80 points a game.

Wanna keep pulling random **** out of your ***? No pun intended.

Disappointment cometh for Dirk, Dallas and DoJoTheSlasher

therealwd27
05-30-2011, 12:31 PM
1. That's the regular season. This is the playoffs.

2. Joel Anthony isn't 1 millionth of the player Dirk is....

3. If Anthony guards Dirk, it's 80 points a game.

Wanna keep pulling random **** out of your ***? No pun intended.

Lol 80 points a game??..Please wake up man:facepalm:..Dirk destroyed a slow, weak defense in the Thunder. He has not seen a defense like the HEAT..Youll see after we win in 6 or less. Until then go sit in a corner and try to figure out how much PI really is.

Young2Kinsler
05-30-2011, 01:22 PM
OMG will you people quit arguing about who is guarding Bosh? Dirk will be on him mostly. Dirk is decent enough to keep Bosh in front of him for the most part, and I'm guessing Dallas will be more than glad to let Bosh try to beat them on the outside while James and Wade stand around without the ball. Bosh is a great player, don't get me wrong, but I'm sure Dallas would rather make him beat us than Wade or Bron.

theheatles
05-30-2011, 01:49 PM
people do realize the way dirk nowitzki was shut down by joel anthony this year, right? he is the perfect defender for dirk.

ANybody willing to bet me, i guarantee you the heat win this in 6 or less.

i 100% agree...joel anthony being long, left handed and being a relentless hustler is the ideal defender you would want to put on dirk and then dirk will get doses of potentially and even now arguably the best on ball defender of all time in lebron and for good measure dirk will see the guy who gave him nightmares from the 06 finals in haslem...oh yeah, then another long lefty in bosh....i think the heat will have a great game plan vs dirk and the heat have the personel to contain him

there's been all this talk about who miami is going to throw at dirk, what i want to know who is going to guard wade and lebron?!...marion can't play all game and deshawn avgs only 15-20 mins a game...and as solid as kidd is as a defender, he won'y be able to stay in front of the quickness of wade and bron...terry has no chance vs wade on either end, wade is going to make his life miserable...and peja is the backup 3 on the mavs and if u think he can do anything vs lebron your kidding yourself...


so @#$% this whos going to guard dirk, WHO IS GOING TO GUARD WADE AND LEBRON? huhh

DeyAce
05-30-2011, 02:10 PM
Heat in 5 is my prediction

gsgs49
05-30-2011, 02:12 PM
people do realize the way dirk nowitzki was shut down by joel anthony this year, right? he is the perfect defender for dirk.

ANybody willing to bet me, i guarantee you the heat win this in 6 or less.

In 2 regular season games? I don't think it means a lot,especially with the way Dirk is playing right now.
By your logic I can say people do realize the way Lebron was shut down by the mavs this year?
Lebron average 21 points on 30.5% shooting against Dallas this season.

gsgs49
05-30-2011, 02:25 PM
i 100% agree...joel anthony being long, left handed and being a relentless hustler is the ideal defender you would want to put on dirk and then dirk will get doses of potentially and even now arguably the best on ball defender of all time in lebron and for good measure dirk will see the guy who gave him nightmares from the 06 finals in haslem...oh yeah, then another long lefty in bosh....i think the heat will have a great game plan vs dirk and the heat have the personel to contain him

there's been all this talk about who miami is going to throw at dirk, what i want to know who is going to guard wade and lebron?!...marion can't play all game and deshawn avgs only 15-20 mins a game...and as solid as kidd is as a defender, he won'y be able to stay in front of the quickness of wade and bron...terry has no chance vs wade on either end, wade is going to make his life miserable...and peja is the backup 3 on the mavs and if u think he can do anything vs lebron your kidding yourself...


so @#$% this whos going to guard dirk, WHO IS GOING TO GUARD WADE AND LEBRON? huhh

Kidd and Stevenson will guard Wade and Marion will guard Lebron and maybe we will see some Brewer in this series but I don't expect him to be successful against Lebron.
Of course,those players can't shut Wade and Lebron down but they can make it hard a little and they will get some help defense.
When you talk about mavs defense,it's a 'TEAM' defense,we don't have a lot of great defenders but we have some good help defenders especially that Tyson guy.The zone defense could help also.

Big Game Son
05-30-2011, 02:37 PM
Probably the only close game of series. Dallas squeaks a win. Comes back game 2...15 point win. Game three....Miami grinds it out and picks up a deserving and convincing win (Dallas could comeback and win though by dominating the fourth). Then series over Dallas in 5.

Jonathan2323
05-30-2011, 02:40 PM
Not to many people know about the Warden(Joel Anthony) and people forget what Haslem did to Dirk in '06. How bout LeBron on DIrk that should be fun to watch.

CubsBullsBucs
05-30-2011, 02:45 PM
Kidd Terry Peja Dirk Chandler
Barea Stevenson Marion Cardinal? Haywood > Big 3

jason6692
05-30-2011, 02:58 PM
whoever thinks dirk wont have a good series is out their effin mind
wade lebron and dirk will all be huge lets just be honest
but mavs take game 1 96-88 behind dirks 29

12evolution 9
05-30-2011, 03:48 PM
1. That's the regular season. This is the playoffs.

2. Joel Anthony isn't 1 millionth of the player Dirk is....

3. If Anthony guards Dirk, it's 80 points a game.

Wanna keep pulling random **** out of your ***? No pun intended.


rofl.... Joel Anthony is not good offensively... but defensively he is better ...


get ready to eat your words

heyman321
05-30-2011, 04:12 PM
A little off topic, but I saw photos of Mavs/Heat press conference today -- does anyone know where I can get those adidas shirts that say "MAVERICKS BASKETBALL" or "HEAT BASKETBALL" ?

PHX2daDEATH
05-30-2011, 04:15 PM
I got Dallas for the series and game one, everyone under-estimates Dallas, They forget about Kidd, they forget about how hungry guys like Marion, Chandler and Peja must be to finally get to this stage..

BALLER71
05-30-2011, 04:27 PM
1. That's the regular season. This is the playoffs.

2. Joel Anthony isn't 1 millionth of the player Dirk is....

3. If Anthony guards Dirk, it's 80 points a game.

Wanna keep pulling random **** out of your ***? No pun intended.

I take it you have not seen JA play.

AddiX
05-30-2011, 04:29 PM
I'm interested to see how Dallas defends Miami. Dallas is the best offensive executing team in the NBA, but defensively I don't see them being as tough as Chicago was, not even close.

This is a quality finals matchup.

John Walls Era
05-30-2011, 04:32 PM
disappointment cometh for dirk, dallas and dojotheslasher

+1.

John Walls Era
05-30-2011, 04:35 PM
A little off topic, but I saw photos of Mavs/Heat press conference today -- does anyone know where I can get those adidas shirts that say "MAVERICKS BASKETBALL" or "HEAT BASKETBALL" ?

NBA.com :shrug: It would be news to me if the NBA didn't take advantage of trying to make some extra money on Finals merchandise.

DoJoTheSlasher
05-30-2011, 04:36 PM
I take it you have not seen JA play.

So Anthony is going to effectively guard a top 25 player of all time, in his prime in the Finals?

Heat fans call us idiots when we say Marion and Stevenson can cause a little trouble for Bron and Wade but they can say Anthony can "lock down" or "stop" Dirk. It's ridiculous.

justinnum1
05-30-2011, 04:38 PM
So Anthony is going to effectively guard a top 25 player of all time, in his prime in the Finals?

Heat fans call us idiots when we say Marion and Stevenson can cause a little trouble for Bron and Wade but they can say Anthony can "lock down" or "stop" Dirk. It's ridiculous.

No one can guard dirk, just like no one can guard wade or lebron. But joel has shown he can do a decent job on dirk.

DoJoTheSlasher
05-30-2011, 04:46 PM
No one can guard dirk, just like no one can guard wade or lebron. But joel has shown he can do a decent job on dirk.

Well in the past Marion has done decent on LeBron yet we are killed idiots for even thinking Marion can do anything against him...

DoJoTheSlasher
05-30-2011, 04:48 PM
People talk about Joel Anthony. Why hasn't **** been said about Tyson Chandler who is much better than Anthony on both sides of the ball?

AddiX
05-30-2011, 04:49 PM
At the end of the day it doesn't matter how Anthony does against dirk. He will do a decent job I'm sure.

But unlike the last series dirk is going to need a lot more help on offense IMO. Miami defends the perimeter shots very well and those won't be as open as they have been.

It will be interesting to see who steps up in this series for Dallas.

Mr. Baller
05-30-2011, 04:51 PM
People talk about Joel Anthony. Why hasn't **** been said about Tyson Chandler who is much better than Anthony on both sides of the ball?

Because Joel will be the one guarding Dirk most likely, and Tyson will most likely stick Joel, and Joel is obviously not a threat to anybody on offense.

DoJoTheSlasher
05-30-2011, 04:52 PM
Because Joel will be the one guarding Dirk most likely, and Tyson will most likely stick Joel, and Joel is obviously not a threat to anybody on offense.

Tyson Chandler can do a great job vs. Chris Bosh.

Dirk on Anthony and Chandler on Bosh. Not that hard....

Mr. Baller
05-30-2011, 04:54 PM
Tyson Chandler can do a great job vs. Chris Bosh.

Dirk on Anthony and Chandler on Bosh. Not that hard....

But I am almost certain that the Mavs are sticking Chandler on Anthony and Dirk on Bosh, I could be wrong on that, but i am pretty sure.

Also, Dirk is the big star for Dallas while like everybody says Bosh is just the third wheel to Wade and LeBron.

ryang
05-30-2011, 04:57 PM
Tyson Chandler can do a great job vs. Chris Bosh.

Dirk on Anthony and Chandler on Bosh. Not that hard....

unless your coach has lost his mind chandler will not be on bosh.. If he is well again who is in the paint? Dirk?? Trying to stop wade and lebron with dirk is suicide...

SportsFanatic10
05-30-2011, 05:08 PM
it'll be chandler on bosh and dirk on anthony. it makes the most sense for the mavs. dirk doesn't really have to waste any energy on defense and chandler is better suited to defend bosh.

SportsFanatic10
05-30-2011, 05:09 PM
however bosh can drag chandler out of the paint with his jumpshots and that might help miami with rebounds and open the lane for lebron and wade.

TheHighLife
05-30-2011, 05:12 PM
Lets go Kings!

marj987
05-30-2011, 05:36 PM
I say the heat probably aroundddddddd.............89 points this series......And the player for the Mavs who has to get going in this series is Terry.....He's going to have to light the Heat up.....Mavs in 6.

SportsAndrew25
05-30-2011, 05:46 PM
Can't Wait!

theheatles
05-30-2011, 05:48 PM
since we are playing the mavs are we having SOFT served ice cream or what?

DoJoTheSlasher
05-30-2011, 06:19 PM
since we are playing the mavs are we having SOFT served ice cream or what?

I hurt my shoulder the other day. I'm in a wheelchair for life now...

justinnum1
05-30-2011, 06:43 PM
I hurt my shoulder the other day. I'm in a wheelchair for life now...

At least he has a ring

SportsFanatic10
05-30-2011, 06:47 PM
I hurt my shoulder the other day. I'm in a wheelchair for life now...

i bet you hurt your shoulder while you were choking.

ryang
05-30-2011, 06:49 PM
he is in a wheelchair?? are we really talking about a few years ago against the rockets?? This sounds like statements we will hear if and when the HEAT win it all...

justinnum1
05-30-2011, 06:50 PM
i bet you hurt your shoulder while you were choking.

lmao
:burn:

ryang
05-30-2011, 06:52 PM
I hurt my shoulder the other day. I'm in a wheelchair for life now...


Is that why u r so mad?? or is it because WADE got out of his?

Big Zo
05-30-2011, 07:04 PM
I hurt my shoulder the other day. I'm in a wheelchair for life now...

Were you jerking off that bad to pictures of Dirk?

ULT WARRIOR408
05-30-2011, 07:45 PM
I voted Mavs but I can see em losing.The bottomline imo is that the Mavs will head back to Dallas with the series tied up 1-1 but eventually I got em winning this series I'm not sure in how many game though.

12evolution 9
05-30-2011, 08:19 PM
I hurt my shoulder the other day. I'm in a wheelchair for life now...

that hurt shoulder is worth more than your whole team

Young2Kinsler
05-30-2011, 08:29 PM
that hurt shoulder is worth more than your whole team

That man and his hurt shoulder couldn't hold one of Dirks nuts.

ryang
05-30-2011, 08:32 PM
That man and his hurt shoulder couldn't hold one of Dirks nuts.

Thats a joke right?? if not i guess you are very confused...

SportsFanatic10
05-30-2011, 08:33 PM
^ thats cuz hes european and doesn't have any nuts

12evolution 9
05-30-2011, 08:33 PM
if Tyson plays Bosh on the elbow's ... who is gonna prevent Wade, or James from finishing at the rim...


Bosh is gonna get a lot of open jumpers... your gonna need to have Dirk on Bosh...

Ya need Tyson to focus on boards and protecting paint...

im putting this on record... if Tyson is going to defend Bosh, then Game Over...

cause that is only going to work in HEAT's Favor..

ryang
05-30-2011, 08:36 PM
ive been saying to mavs and other fans all along... im ready for this to start so we can show them.. oh wait there coach can not be that dumb but if so wooow should be alot of fun

Demonata
05-30-2011, 08:37 PM
Wonder how many free throws heat will shoot...

ryang
05-30-2011, 08:41 PM
more then the mavs... unless they find someone on there bench that can suddenly learn how to take it to the rim (besides the butter pecan recan)..

Demonata
05-30-2011, 08:43 PM
Wish Butler was back.

SportsFanatic10
05-30-2011, 08:45 PM
barea can take it to the rim pretty good.

ryang
05-30-2011, 08:46 PM
thats why i said besides the butter pecan rican (he is from puerto rico)

SportsFanatic10
05-30-2011, 08:49 PM
ahh i see lol totally missed that.

justinnum1
05-30-2011, 09:21 PM
Wonder how many free throws heat will shoot...

prob a lot:)

Demonata
05-30-2011, 09:23 PM
prob a lot:)

:(

gotoHcarolina52
05-30-2011, 09:39 PM
i bet you hurt your shoulder while you were choking.

And with that the Dallas douche gets :burn:

marj987
05-30-2011, 10:10 PM
The Mavericks were obviously the better team in '06 lets just hope they still are now....

justinnum1
05-30-2011, 10:15 PM
The Mavericks were obviously the better team in '06 lets just hope they still are now....

Obviously, thats why they won right?
:laugh2:

12evolution 9
05-30-2011, 10:19 PM
The Mavericks were obviously the better team in '06 lets just hope they still are now....

lol ... ya ... that was soo obvious.....


ya might have been better as a team... ya were not better than WADE...

gotoHcarolina52
05-30-2011, 10:30 PM
The Mavericks were obviously the better team in '06 lets just hope they still are now....

Better at losing a playoff series? They sure were!

drobe86
05-30-2011, 11:28 PM
Lol@ Heat fans thinking that because Haslem had success vs. Dirk in '06 that he'll have success this year. Dirk is a totally different player now than he was then. Add that to the fact that his supporting cast is FAR superior. You're not winning the Finals with Dampier and Desagna Diop at Center folks..... It just doesn't happen. Devin Harris and Josh Howard are bums people. Look at the career that both guys have put together since they left....People point to the 2 regular matchups and say they don't mean anything, and they don't to an extent. But we've got the confidence that we can dispose of this team and I think we will. We're a veteran team that gets by on EXECUTION. Miami has the athletes, but we've got better basketball players. We let Miami do all the talking. We just go out and play.


P.s. Bosh isn't on the same planet as Dirk. I'm not going to call any names out but you know who you are. You really should go be put into a padded room and a strait jacket if you think Bosh is 1/10 of what Dirk Nowitzki is or ever will be. And Lol@ at the guy that said Joel Anthony was good. You can't even put him and Tyson Chandler in the same sentence. Chandler is a top 5 C in the league. Anthony is a bench player that wouldn't see 10 minutes a game if Miami didn't employ the likes of Erica Dampier and Dexter Pittman at C.

marj987
05-30-2011, 11:39 PM
C'mon.............All of know as well as I know.....The refs were on their side the ENTIRE series......

gotoHcarolina52
05-30-2011, 11:45 PM
Lol@ Heat fans thinking that because Haslem had success vs. Dirk in '06 that he'll have success this year. Dirk is a totally different player now than he was then. Add that to the fact that his supporting cast is FAR superior. You're not winning the Finals with Dampier and Desagna Diop at Center folks..... It just doesn't happen. Devin Harris and Josh Howard are bums people. Look at the career that both guys have put together since they left....People point to the 2 regular matchups and say they don't mean anything, and they don't to an extent. But we've got the confidence that we can dispose of this team and I think we will. We're a veteran team that gets by on EXECUTION. Miami has the athletes, but we've got better basketball players. We let Miami do all the talking. We just go out and play.


P.s. Bosh isn't on the same planet as Dirk. I'm not going to call any names out but you know who you are. You really should go be put into a padded room and a strait jacket if you think Bosh is 1/10 of what Dirk Nowitzki is or ever will be. And Lol@ at the guy that said Joel Anthony was good. You can't even put him and Tyson Chandler in the same sentence. Chandler is a top 5 C in the league. Anthony is a bench player that wouldn't see 10 minutes a game if Miami didn't employ the likes of Erica Dampier and Dexter Pittman at C.


In the two regular season games the HEAT and Mavericks played this season, when Joel Anthony was on the court, Dirk shot 36% against the HEAT. With Joel Anthony on the bench, Dirk shot 42%. Both are greater than 10% below Dirk's season average (52%).

http://www.nba.com/statscube/player-vs-player.html#Joel-Anthony-vs-Dirk-Nowitzki|201202,1717;season=r

Chi StateOfMind
05-30-2011, 11:55 PM
Heat are going to win this series it's inevitable. If the Heat lose i'll be stunned but at the same time happy :p

shizzle09
05-31-2011, 12:16 AM
The Mavericks were obviously the better team in '06 lets just hope they still are now....

:laugh:

good one.

TheRunKiller
05-31-2011, 12:21 AM
for Heat fans that think old broken down Haslem that hasn't played all year, is going to check Dirk .you got another thing coming :laugh2:

gotoHcarolina52
05-31-2011, 12:37 AM
for Heat fans that think old broken down Haslem that hasn't played all year, is going to check Dirk .you got another thing coming :laugh2:

Look, let's be honest, no one is going to stop Dirk, Wade or LeBron. Now, to say that Marion, Stevenson and Haslem can't put up a fight against these guys is nonsense. Haslem covered Dirk well in 2006, and I expect him to do a good job guarding him this time around. Do I except Udonis to shut Dirk down? Of course not, but I do expect him to force Dirk out of his comfort zone every now and then and to force him into some high-difficulty shots. Dirk may very well end up making said shots, but it wont take away from the fact that Haslem can and will make Dirk work for his points.

TheRunKiller
05-31-2011, 12:39 AM
dirk in 6

TheRunKiller
05-31-2011, 12:46 AM
lol ... ya ... that was soo obvious.....


ya might have been better as a team... ya were not better than WADE...

Yeah Wade was dominating shooting all those FTs

theheatles
05-31-2011, 12:52 AM
it's going to be haslem, bosh, joel and lebron taking turns on dirk...dirk will be more contained on offense then LeBron or Wade will be and wade and LeBron are going to be the 2 best defenders in this series

TheRunKiller
05-31-2011, 12:59 AM
it's going to be haslem, bosh, joel and lebron taking turns on dirk...dirk will be more contained on offense then LeBron or Wade will be and wade and LeBron are going to be the 2 best defenders in this series

You're crazy if you think Haslem Bosh Joel & James will take turns shutting down Dirk. He will average 30 ppg in this series and if you double him Heat are going leave one of there 3 point shooters open...Mavs have more shooters than any team Heat have faced in the playoffs so far.

TheRunKiller
05-31-2011, 01:03 AM
In the two regular season games the HEAT and Mavericks played this season, when Joel Anthony was on the court, Dirk shot 36% against the HEAT. With Joel Anthony on the bench, Dirk shot 42%. Both are greater than 10% below Dirk's season average (52%).

http://www.nba.com/statscube/player-vs-player.html#Joel-Anthony-vs-Dirk-Nowitzki|201202,1717;season=r

regular season doesn't matter??

championships
05-31-2011, 01:03 AM
In the two regular season games the HEAT and Mavericks played this season, when Joel Anthony was on the court, Dirk shot 36% against the HEAT. With Joel Anthony on the bench, Dirk shot 42%. Both are greater than 10% below Dirk's season average (52%).

http://www.nba.com/statscube/player-vs-player.html#Joel-Anthony-vs-Dirk-Nowitzki|201202,1717;season=r

Dirk also wasn't playing out of his mind then like he is in these playoffs.

Dallas stuns Miami and takes game 1 on the road.

mttwlsn16
05-31-2011, 01:03 AM
i just hope its agood series, but i have a feeling miami will win this thing in 5 or 6.
hope im wrong

TheRunKiller
05-31-2011, 01:04 AM
^ don't worry you will be wrong

John Walls Era
05-31-2011, 01:06 AM
regular season doesn't matter??

You learned

SportsFanatic10
05-31-2011, 01:06 AM
for Heat fans that think old broken down Haslem that hasn't played all year, is going to check Dirk .you got another thing coming :laugh2:

haslem is only 30 but he's just trying to get back into game shape. dirk is playing the best ball of his career so of course thats not happening like in 06. but others will be taking turns trying to slow him down.

with that said you're just in here baiting heat fans cuz you're still pissed about last series. i remember you saying shaq would be more effective than haslem and that the bulls would beat the heat and rose is better than wade and all sorts of dumb **** before. you can't be taken seriously.

TheRunKiller
05-31-2011, 01:10 AM
haslem is only 30 but he's just trying to get back into game shape. dirk is playing the best ball of his career so of course thats not happening like in 06. but others will be taking turns trying to slow him down.

with that said you're just in here baiting heat fans cuz you're still pissed about last series. i remember you saying shaq would be more effective than haslem and that the bulls would beat the heat and rose is better than wade and all sorts of dumb **** before. you can't be taken seriously.

Yes i was wrong about everything i said but I'm not mad about the bulls losing to a better team and i'm not baiting, this isn't 2006 Haslem has been hurt all season and theres no way he can guard dirk like he did in 06...if he can i guess i'm wrong again. but i just don't see him having any chance of guarding dirk.

SportsFanatic10
05-31-2011, 01:14 AM
if he guards dirk like in 06 i'd be wrong as well. it won't happen but i think he will give some quality minutes against him and he won't be the primary defender on dirk. i see either anthony or bosh most of the time with haslem off the bench and lebron in crunch time. it'll be interesting to see how it plays out but dirk will likely average 25-30 pts a game in my opinion.

SportsFanatic10
05-31-2011, 01:16 AM
but then so will both lebron and wade i think as well with bosh around 15-20. terry and all the shooters are what scares me the most we all know the stars will likely get their averages.

theheatles
05-31-2011, 01:32 AM
You're crazy if you think Haslem Bosh Joel & James will take turns shutting down Dirk. He will average 30 ppg in this series and if you double him Heat are going leave one of there 3 point shooters open...Mavs have more shooters than any team Heat have faced in the playoffs so far.

i said contain, dirk will get his points but the heat are going to make him work and he will be the most inefficient he's been all post season...

and just like the mavs have more shooters than the heat has faced, the heat are the best defensive AND offensive team the mavs have faced all post season

ryang
05-31-2011, 01:47 AM
Lol@ Heat fans thinking that because Haslem had success vs. Dirk in '06 that he'll have success this year. Dirk is a totally different player now than he was then. Add that to the fact that his supporting cast is FAR superior. You're not winning the Finals with Dampier and Desagna Diop at Center folks..... It just doesn't happen. Devin Harris and Josh Howard are bums people. Look at the career that both guys have put together since they left....People point to the 2 regular matchups and say they don't mean anything, and they don't to an extent. But we've got the confidence that we can dispose of this team and I think we will. We're a veteran team that gets by on EXECUTION. Miami has the athletes, but we've got better basketball players. We let Miami do all the talking. We just go out and play.


P.s. Bosh isn't on the same planet as Dirk. I'm not going to call any names out but you know who you are. You really should go be put into a padded room and a strait jacket if you think Bosh is 1/10 of what Dirk Nowitzki is or ever will be. And Lol@ at the guy that said Joel Anthony was good. You can't even put him and Tyson Chandler in the same sentence. Chandler is a top 5 C in the league. Anthony is a bench player that wouldn't see 10 minutes a game if Miami didn't employ the likes of Erica Dampier and Dexter Pittman at C.


So is noah.. but chandler is not top 5 and if he is that say alot about the center position these days... Chandler really?? yes he can score better then joel congrats

P-O-Z
05-31-2011, 02:08 AM
Obviously Dirk is a concern but Terry and Barea are the mavs x-factors tbh ..

LakersIn5
05-31-2011, 02:27 AM
HEAT WIN GAMe 1 BIG! HEAT WIN 110-86!

TheHighLife
05-31-2011, 02:51 AM
Dallas wins this one 98-90.

Iron24th
05-31-2011, 03:48 AM
LOL at the mavs and heat fans trashing each others,rivalry in the making.

Super.
05-31-2011, 04:01 AM
The Mavericks were the best 3 point shooting team in the playoffs. With the heat most likely needing to double Dirk to stop him from dropping 35+ a night guys like Terry, Peja, and Kidd will be wide open.

That's the big mismatch. The Heat haven't played a team like the Mavs

SportsFanatic10
05-31-2011, 04:14 AM
the mavs havn't played a team like the heat.

and just thought i'd throw this out there......the canucks are gonna beat the bruins for the cup :D

Wrigheyes4MVP
05-31-2011, 04:57 AM
i 100% agree...joel anthony being long, left handed and being a relentless hustler is the ideal defender you would want to put on dirk and then dirk will get doses of potentially and even now arguably the best on ball defender of all time in lebron and for good measure dirk will see the guy who gave him nightmares from the 06 finals in haslem...oh yeah, then another long lefty in bosh....i think the heat will have a great game plan vs dirk and the heat have the personel to contain him

there's been all this talk about who miami is going to throw at dirk, what i want to know who is going to guard wade and lebron?!...marion can't play all game and deshawn avgs only 15-20 mins a game...and as solid as kidd is as a defender, he won'y be able to stay in front of the quickness of wade and bron...terry has no chance vs wade on either end, wade is going to make his life miserable...and peja is the backup 3 on the mavs and if u think he can do anything vs lebron your kidding yourself...


so @#$% this whos going to guard dirk, WHO IS GOING TO GUARD WADE AND LEBRON? huhh

No one is gonna stop Lebron and Wade. All Dallas can do is keep them out of the paint and force them to take outside shots. I wouldn't be surprised to see a hell of a lot of zone defense from the Mavs. Those guys are gonna just have to knock down those shots, because Dallas will be giving them some decent looks from outside.

But, no one is gonna stop Dirk either, not with the shots he is making right now. Whoever defends Dirk will probably guard him perfectly, give him no space at all to do anything, force him to take a highly contested shot, and then Dirk will still sink nothing but the bottom of the net, unless he uses the glass that is.

Wrigheyes4MVP
05-31-2011, 04:58 AM
the mavs havn't played a team like the heat.

and just thought i'd throw this out there......the canucks are gonna beat the bruins for the cup :D

The Heat haven't played a team like the Mavs...but they absolutely destroyed the 2 time defending champion Lakers...

and I agree that the Canucks will win.:)

Voodoo Alchemy
05-31-2011, 05:12 AM
the mavs havn't played a team like the heat.

and just thought i'd throw this out there......the canucks are gonna beat the bruins for the cup :D

doesn't matter, the mavs are a better team because they have balance on both ends, better bench and a freakn german that can't be stopped. any team that can take down the 2 time defending champs in straight sets is destined to win it all.

J-Relo
05-31-2011, 06:01 AM
doesn't matter, the mavs are a better team because they have balance on both ends, better bench and a freakn german that can't be stopped. any team that can take down the 2 time defending champs in straight sets is destined to win it all.

and that's just your opinion

naps
05-31-2011, 06:26 AM
LOL at people saying "Who's gonna guard Dirk?" How about "Who's gonna guard Wade?" "Who's gonna guard LeBron?" "Who's gonna guard Bosh?" You just simply can't slow all three down together. May be one of them but the other two will destroy you.

kntresistheheat
05-31-2011, 07:55 AM
doesn't matter, the mavs are a better team because they have balance on both ends, better bench and a freakn german that can't be stopped. any team that can take down the 2 time defending champs in straight sets is destined to win it all.

Ummmm, We beat the defending champs in 2 games in the regular season :)
Both teams are a different animal in the playoffs and playing really well. The fact that the heat is top 5 in defense guards the three pretty well and we exposed the best defense team in 4 games in a row to advance to the finals,
not to mention that Dallas is a top 5 offensive team this series will end in 7! It's going to be a dog fight!

SteBO
05-31-2011, 08:28 AM
doesn't matter, the mavs are a better team because they have balance on both ends, better bench and a freakn german that can't be stopped. any team that can take down the 2 time defending champs in straight sets is destined to win it all.

And we have a solid 8-man rotation, great defense, a 6'8" 260 lb. SF that can't be stopped, a 6'4" SG in Dwyane Wade that can go off anytime, and a 6'11" PF in Chris Bosh that just finished dismantling Joakim Noah, a guy that everyone said would shut Bosh down. We also took apart the best defensive team in the league in the Chicago Bulls.

3 stars, a few good role player, and a very disciplined defensive system is also good enough to win it all.

mikealike305
05-31-2011, 09:10 AM
its funny, a lot of ppl here thinking the mavs are going to win, seem to rely pretty heavy on dirk.
last time a team had to count on 1 guy so much, heat won 4-1 :)

Demonata
05-31-2011, 10:03 AM
LOL at people saying "Who's gonna guard Dirk?" How about "Who's gonna guard Wade?" "Who's gonna guard LeBron?" "Who's gonna guard Bosh?" You just simply can't slow all three down together. May be one of them but the other two will destroy you.

Wade wasn't really an offensive threat in the Chicago-Miami series. @ superstars will not be enough to stop an entire "team" with even a superstar themselves. With having Jason Kidd as your point guard and Dirk and a great bench, it doesn't worry me if Lebrawn and Wade score 50 total. A complete team will win the championship and not just a a couple of superstars.

Demonata
05-31-2011, 10:05 AM
its funny, a lot of ppl here thinking the mavs are going to win, seem to rely pretty heavy on dirk.
last time a team had to count on 1 guy so much, heat won 4-1 :)

Ya and Miami isn't relying heavily on Lebrawn and Wade? :facepalm: Dallas can still go to there bench and have a way better point guard than you guys to run the offense. Dallas is a better team then back in 06.

ShiroRX
05-31-2011, 10:07 AM
Can we stop pretending running over the Lakers this year was an accomplishment? A college team could've taken them in 6.

SteBO
05-31-2011, 10:08 AM
Wade wasn't really an offensive threat in the Chicago-Miami series. @ superstars will not be enough to stop an entire "team" with even a superstar themselves. With having Jason Kidd as your point guard and Dirk and a great bench, it doesn't worry me if Lebrawn and Wade score 50 total. A complete team will win the championship and not just a a couple of superstars.
We've heard this all year long man. And we do have a team, whether you believe it or not. I also love how Bosh gets left out. Wade wasn't an offensive threat because of great defense from Brewer and Bogans. Can't say you guys have that same luxury, but we'll see. Chicago was the best defense in the league, don't expect Miami to have the same issues in this series. It's a matter of figuring out the zone.


Ya and Miami isn't relying heavily on Lebrawn and Wade? :facepalm: Dallas can still go to there bench and have a way better point guard than you guys to run the offense. Dallas is a better team then back in 06.
Miami is a better team than back in '06 too. Point? :eyebrow:

ShiroRX
05-31-2011, 10:09 AM
Wade wasn't really an offensive threat in the Chicago-Miami series. @ superstars will not be enough to stop an entire "team" with even a superstar themselves. With having Jason Kidd as your point guard and Dirk and a great bench, it doesn't worry me if Lebrawn and Wade score 50 total. A complete team will win the championship and not just a a couple of superstars.

Statistically, actually, if the big 3 score 64+ were unbeatable.

mikealike305
05-31-2011, 10:09 AM
Wade wasn't really an offensive threat in the Chicago-Miami series. @ superstars will not be enough to stop an entire "team" with even a superstar themselves. With having Jason Kidd as your point guard and Dirk and a great bench, it doesn't worry me if Lebrawn and Wade score 50 total. A complete team will win the championship and not just a a couple of superstars.

once again, more flawed logic.
sooo wade wasnt a threat in 1 series (that series being vs the #1 defense) so that means he wont be a threat vs the mavs?

"superstars will not be enough to stop an entire "team" with even a superstar themselves." - this was said many times vs the bulls.

"A complete team will win the championship and not just a a couple of superstars." - also said vs the bulls. anybody remember "8 is better than 3"

mttwlsn16
05-31-2011, 10:14 AM
Can we stop pretending running over the Lakers this year was an accomplishment? A college team could've taken them in 6.

:facepalm:

LTBaByyy
05-31-2011, 10:16 AM
Lets get it going!!

Demonata
05-31-2011, 10:18 AM
once again, more flawed logic.
sooo wade wasnt a threat in 1 series (that series being vs the #1 defense) so that means he wont be a threat vs the mavs?

"superstars will not be enough to stop an entire "team" with even a superstar themselves." - this was said many times vs the bulls.

"A complete team will win the championship and not just a a couple of superstars." - also said vs the bulls. anybody remember "8 is better than 3"

The bulls only had Rose as a superstar. History has proven that if you best player is a point guard then you probably wont win a championship. So comparing the Mavs to a little team like the Bulls makes no sense. We are taller and more of a veteran team than the bulls. Mavs have a better bench than the bulls too. How could the bulls be the #1 defense when they have players liek Boozer on there team? I seriously doubt they were number one. Portland is a better defensive team than the Bulls.

Demonata
05-31-2011, 10:20 AM
Can we stop pretending running over the Lakers this year was an accomplishment? A college team could've taken them in 6.

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: Beating a team going for a 3peat wasn't an accomplishment? :speechless:

justinnum1
05-31-2011, 10:20 AM
The bulls only had Rose as a superstar. History has proven that if you best player is a point guard then you probably wont win a championship. So comparing the Mavs to a little team like the Bulls makes no sense. We are taller and more of a veteran team than the bulls. Mavs have a better bench than the bulls too. How could the bulls be the #1 defense when they have players liek Boozer on there team? I seriously doubt they were number one. Portland is a better defensive team than the Bulls.

History has also proven if you dont have more than one all star, you probably arent winning.

ShiroRX
05-31-2011, 10:22 AM
:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: Beating a team going for a 3peat wasn't an accomplishment? :speechless:

They weren't playing like a two time champion, that's the point. They lost "it".

Demonata
05-31-2011, 10:29 AM
They weren't playing like a two time champion, that's the point. They lost "it".

The Mavs outplayed them, to say it wasn't impressive to beat the Lakers shows your bias.

Demonata
05-31-2011, 10:33 AM
History has also proven if you dont have more than one all star, you probably arent winning.

YA because Kidd and Dirk have not been all stars? :facepalm:

mikealike305
05-31-2011, 10:34 AM
The bulls only had Rose as a superstar. History has proven that if you best player is a point guard then you probably wont win a championship. So comparing the Mavs to a little team like the Bulls makes no sense. We are taller and more of a veteran team than the bulls. Mavs have a better bench than the bulls too. How could the bulls be the #1 defense when they have players liek Boozer on there team? I seriously doubt they were number one. Portland is a better defensive team than the Bulls.

if your superstar is a PG, or a PF, it doesnt matter, history has proven 1 superstar= no ring.
if u dont recognize the bulls as the best defense or atleast a top 3, u dont know what u are talking about

mikealike305
05-31-2011, 10:35 AM
YA because Kidd and Dirk have not been all stars? :facepalm:

lol key word there is "been" :facepalm:

Hawkeye15
05-31-2011, 10:35 AM
YA because Kidd and Dirk have not been all stars? :facepalm:

I think he was referring to current all stars. Kidd hasn't been an all star in years

I never get why posters use facepalms

SteBO
05-31-2011, 10:38 AM
Demonata, stop acting like we're discrediting the Mavs. Noone here is. But don't come here and tell me that Dallas will without question win the Finals because of how deep they are, then go on to say the Bulls are one man team, which is true in alot of ways, but I've heard over and over again, that the "Bulls will beat the Heat because of how deep they are". Their bench was better than Miami's, clearly, but it comes down which star steps up when it matters most, not bench play. Hell, the Sixers' bench played better than ours, and we won in 5. Same thing with the Celtics, and just recently Chicago. If that doesn't tell you something, then you won't win this argument. The Mavs can win this series, no doubt, but if it comes to fruition, it will be because Dirk is an animal.

Demonata
05-31-2011, 10:40 AM
lol key word there is "been" :facepalm:

The Lakers didn't have 2 players that made the all star team and they still won the championship. Kidd and Dirk were on all star team previous year just not this year. :facepalm:

Demonata
05-31-2011, 10:41 AM
I think he was referring to current all stars. Kidd hasn't been an all star in years

I never get why posters use facepalms

Kidd was on the all star team in 2010 though...

avrpatsfan
05-31-2011, 10:41 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfuJS0SBSac
We're going to be hearing about this a lot during this series. God know how much Celtics fans heard about Pierce's wheelchair from Lakers and Heat fans.

Demonata
05-31-2011, 10:43 AM
Demonata, stop acting like we're discrediting the Mavs. Noone here is. But don't come here and tell me that Dallas will without question win the Finals because of how deep they are, then go on to say the Bulls are one man team, which is true in alot of ways, but I've heard over and over again, that the "Bulls will beat the Heat because of how deep they are". Their bench was better tham Miami's, clearly, but the it comes down which star steps up when it matters most, not bench play. Hell, the Sixers' bench played better than ours, and we won in 5. Same thing with the Celtics, and just recently Chicago. If that doesn't tell you something, then you won't win this argument. The Mavs can win this series, no doubt, but if it comes to fruition, it will be because Dirk is an animal.

I never said that they will without a doubt win but in my opinion having a complete veteran team is better than a couple superstars in a lineup with a horrible bench. It should be a good series though. Just having no respect to Kidd is ridiculous so had to defend him. He was an all-star in 2010 so in no way is that years. Lakers had 2 all-stars this year and we still beat them so in no way is having 2 all-stars = championship. It is going to have to be a complete team effort for one of these teams to win.

Hawkeye15
05-31-2011, 10:46 AM
Kidd was on the all star team in 2010 though...

haha, I forgot about that. A 10/9 PG making the all star team. I remember thinking it was a joke then as well.

SteBO
05-31-2011, 10:49 AM
I never said that they will without a doubt win but in my opinion having a complete veteran team is better than a couple superstars in a lineup with a horrible bench. It should be a good series though. Just having no respect to Kidd is ridiculous so had to defend him. He is an all-star.
I don't know who showed disrespect to Kidd, but he needs to be watched obviously. His 3-point shooting has become deadly nowadays, so he definitely needs to defended. Listen, Dallas' strengths are Dirk, and three-point shooting(Terry, Stojakovic, Kidd). They also have a few guys that can rebound in Marion, Chandler, and Haywood. All aren't easy to guard, so it will be a challenge for the Heat. I was just responding to the notion that because a team has a better bench means they're immediately the better team, then go on to call Miami the "big 2.5", just to discredit Bosh. I mean, where do you some of you draw the line? :shrug: Just curious. Also, Haslem and Miller, and even Chalmers have played well. We do have a team, and you're right when you say it will have to be a team effort to win.

Demonata
05-31-2011, 10:53 AM
haha, I forgot about that. A 10/9 PG making the all star team. I remember thinking it was a joke then as well.

No respect to Kidd? He played great that year and was one of the best point guards and deserved to be on the all-star team. Not too mention all the near triple doubles he had.

mikealike305
05-31-2011, 10:54 AM
The Lakers didn't have 2 players that made the all star team and they still won the championship. Kidd and Dirk were on all star team previous year just not this year. :facepalm:

lakers were a much better overall team than the mavs.
lol oh yeah, kidd, the joke allstar selection.

justinnum1
05-31-2011, 10:54 AM
The Lakers didn't have 2 players that made the all star team and they still won the championship. Kidd and Dirk were on all star team previous year just not this year. :facepalm:

:facepalm: gasol and kobe, and odom coud have been one. You have dirk, and the dirkettes...kidd is good but not all star level.

Hawkeye15
05-31-2011, 10:56 AM
No respect to Kidd? He played great that year and was one of the best point guards and deserved to be on the all-star team. Not too mention all the near triple doubles he had.

I respect Kidd, but his all star days were over a few years ago, if we are measuring level of play. If they needed another guard, no reason to use Kidd when Manu and a couple others are sitting there.

SteBO
05-31-2011, 10:59 AM
I respect Kidd, but his all star days were over a few years ago, if we are measuring level of play. If they needed another guard, no reason to use Kidd when Manu and a couple others are sitting there.

I understand where Demonata is coming from though. Kidd's shooting, as I mentioned before, has taken a leap from his prime years. I don't know the stats for it, but by watching him, I can tell. That year, though, wasn't Chris Paul injured or something to that nature. I think that's how Kidd got in, but I'm not sure.

Demonata
05-31-2011, 11:01 AM
:facepalm: gasol and kobe, and odom coud have been one. You have dirk, and the dirkettes...kidd is good but not all star level.

I was talking about last year, I was proving that it doesn't matter how many all-stars you have. This year Kobe and Pau made the all-star team and it didn't help them.

Hawkeye15
05-31-2011, 11:02 AM
I understand where Demonata is coming from though. Kidd's shooting, as I mentioned before, has taken a leap from his prime years. I don't know the stats for it, but by watching him, I can tell. That year, though, wasn't Chris Paul injured or something to that nature. I think that's how Kidd got in, but I'm not sure.

His shooting percentages have increased, no doubt.

Yes, he was the honorary "we need one more guard, who can we pick" player, and his name is Kidd. Like I said, there were better options out there, but deserving players get left off yearly, so not the biggest deal.

Regardless, its sort of off topic discussing Kidd's making the all star team in 2010, and whether it was valid, so this will be the last I write about it.

Demonata
05-31-2011, 11:03 AM
I respect Kidd, but his all star days were over a few years ago, if we are measuring level of play. If they needed another guard, no reason to use Kidd when Manu and a couple others are sitting there.

How many point guards in the west averaged at least 10 points and 9 assists a game in 2010?He played great in 2010.

Demonata
05-31-2011, 11:05 AM
I understand where Demonata is coming from though. Kidd's shooting, as I mentioned before, has taken a leap from his prime years. I don't know the stats for it, but by watching him, I can tell. That year, though, wasn't Chris Paul injured or something to that nature. I think that's how Kidd got in, but I'm not sure.

Will you at least admit that we have an advantage over your point guard?

Hawkeye15
05-31-2011, 11:07 AM
Will you at least admit that we have an advantage over your point guard?

dude, 90% of the league has an advantage over the Heat's PG. Why does it matter? Kidd isn't a scoring presence at all. He will be used to run the offense, and I would guess he will be guarding Wade some. Especially when they play Terry

SteBO
05-31-2011, 11:08 AM
Will you at least admit that we have an advantage over your point guard?

I honestly don't think that's questionable at this point. However, the Bulls, Celtics and Sixers had an advantage at PG as well. Kidd isn't athletic enough, or at all, to run past Bibby, or even Chalmers at this point in his career. JJ Barea may be problematic, but he isn't the key cog. In saying that though, we can't allow him to waltz in the paint and let him penetrate. That's when he's at his best. Still, this isn't news. When DJ Augustine is lighting up your team, you know your PG situation is weak.

Demonata
05-31-2011, 11:12 AM
dude, 90% of the league has an advantage over the Heat's PG. Why does it matter? Kidd isn't a scoring presence at all. He will be used to run the offense, and I would guess he will be guarding Wade some. Especially when they play Terry

It matters because the point guard runs the offense. He's averaging 10 points a game in the playoffs so that is a scoring presence and not too mention his 7.7 assists.Kidd is a good player.

mikealike305
05-31-2011, 11:16 AM
It matters because the point guard runs the offense. He's averaging 10 points a game in the playoffs so that is a scoring presence and not too mention his 7.7 assists.Kidd is a good player.

the last 2 teams the Heat played, their best player was the PG. so like hawkeye said, what does it matter?
plus i have faith in chalmers to keep a hand in kidds face

Hawkeye15
05-31-2011, 11:19 AM
It matters because the point guard runs the offense. He's averaging 10 points a game in the playoffs so that is a scoring presence and not too mention his 7.7 assists.Kidd is a good player.

Didn't the Heat just crush a team with a far superior PG?

Look dude, Kidd is a good facilitator, and a good defender at this point in his career, and is also a good spot up shooter. But he isn't a complete difference maker. Dirk needs to go nuts, and the Mavs shooters will need to be hitting, and on the other end, the Mavs will need to protect the paint, which neither the Bulls, Celtics, or Philly could do.

The Mavs are favored by many in this series, and rightfully so. But its not discrediting Kidd by saying he isn't the absolute difference maker here.

Besides, look for Miami to run a Miller-Wade-LeBron-Haslem-Bosh lineup late.

Demonata
05-31-2011, 11:19 AM
Well the best player is not Kidd, but he is such a great passer and is starting to shoot the 3 well. Not too mention how many 3 point shooters the mavs have he can pass to. Chalmers is nothing compared to andre miller,russel westbrook and derek fisher that were on kidd.

Demonata
05-31-2011, 11:22 AM
Didn't the Heat just crush a team with a far superior PG?

Look dude, Kidd is a good facilitator, and a good defender at this point in his career, and is also a good spot up shooter. But he isn't a complete difference maker. Dirk needs to go nuts, and the Mavs shooters will need to be hitting, and on the other end, the Mavs will need to protect the paint, which neither the Bulls, Celtics, or Philly could do.

The Mavs are favored by many in this series, and rightfully so. But its not discrediting Kidd by saying he isn't the absolute difference maker here.

Besides, look for Miami to run a Miller-Wade-LeBron-Haslem-Bosh lineup late.

Well, the heat going small would help the Mavs in the series get more rebounds... Wasn't miami having trouble getting rebounds in the playoffs? I do admit it wont be fun guarding wade and lebrawn though.

SteBO
05-31-2011, 11:23 AM
Well the best player is not Kidd, but he is such a great passer and is starting to shoot the 3 well. Not too mention how many 3 point shooters the mavs have he can pass to. Chalmers is nothing compared to andre miller,russel westbrook and derek fisher that were on kidd.

This isn't about one on one matchups. This is about team defense, something the Heat have harped since Pat Riley took over the reigns. Kidd is a good facilitator, but so is Rajon Rondo.

Hawkeye15
05-31-2011, 11:27 AM
Well, the heat going small would help the Mavs in the series get more rebounds... Wasn't miami having trouble getting rebounds in the playoffs? I do admit it wont be fun guarding wade and lebrawn though.

weren't the Bulls the top rebounding team in the NBA? It worked against them. Besides, LeBron, Miller, and Wade are terrific rebounders from the perimeter.

Look, I am simply playing devil's advocate to you man. I am excited to see how on earth Miami plans on limiting Dirk, and if Terry/Kidd/Marion/JJ can light up the Heat's athletic, quick defense. I am pumped to see the finishes of games, because both these teams absolutely have been clutch in closing minutes.

Demonata
05-31-2011, 11:27 AM
This isn't about one on one matchups. This is about team defense, something the Heat have harped since Pat Riley took over the reigns. Kidd is a good facilitator, but so is Rajon Rondo.

Personally I think Rondo wouldn't do nearly as good with assists if he didn't have Ray,Paul and KG to pass too. Kidd has been getting good assists numbers even without stars to pass too. So no offense but comparing Rondo to Kidd makes me want to :puke:

SteBO
05-31-2011, 11:30 AM
Personally I think Rondo wouldn't do nearly as good with assists if he didn't have Ray,Paul and KG to pass too. Kidd has been getting good assists numbers even without stars to pass too. So no offense but comparing Rondo to Kidd makes me want to :puke:

I'm not comparing them, I'm just saying that Rondo is every bit as good a facilitator as Kidd is. Who does Kidd have? Terry, and Dirk trumps anyone Boston has. It's not like Kidd has this huge advantage you're making it out to be. He isn't the offensive threat he used to be. Dirk and Terry are my main worries, as well the threee-point shooting in general.

Demonata
05-31-2011, 11:30 AM
weren't the Bulls the top rebounding team in the NBA? It worked against them. Besides, LeBron, Miller, and Wade are terrific rebounders from the perimeter.

Look, I am simply playing devil's advocate to you man. I am excited to see how on earth Miami plans on limiting Dirk, and if Terry/Kidd/Marion/JJ can light up the Heat's athletic, quick defense. I am pumped to see the finishes of games, because both these teams absolutely have been clutch in closing minutes.

Minnesota was the best rebounding team. Going to be a good game just hope it's not won at the foul line. :clap:

Hawkeye15
05-31-2011, 11:33 AM
Minnesota was the best rebounding team. Going to be a good game just hope it's not won at the foul line. :clap:

no, the Bulls were. Look at rate, not total. Minnesota played at the highest pace and can't hit the broad side of a barn, hence more opportunities.

No **** dude. I can't watch a free throw contest...

SteBO
05-31-2011, 11:35 AM
weren't the Bulls the top rebounding team in the NBA? It worked against them. Besides, LeBron, Miller, and Wade are terrific rebounders from the perimeter.

Look, I am simply playing devil's advocate to you man. I am excited to see how on earth Miami plans on limiting Dirk, and if Terry/Kidd/Marion/JJ can light up the Heat's athletic, quick defense. I am pumped to see the finishes of games, because both these teams absolutely have been clutch in closing minutes.



Minnesota was the best rebounding team. Going to be a good game just hope it's not won at the foul line. :clap:

I didn't even think about that. Watching the end of Mavs and Heat games have been a beauty to watch. To your Demonata, while I hope FT aren't the underlying topic of this series, something tells me it will be. I hope the officials let both teams play a little more physical. If they don't, it will ruin the flow of the games and Dirk will score 60 points based on the way he's been playing. FT's initially might not be a big deal, but it adds up in the end. As long as I don't hear *****ing and moaning about it, I'm cool. :)

Demonata
05-31-2011, 11:35 AM
no, the Bulls were. Look at rate, not total. Minnesota played at the highest pace and can't hit the broad side of a barn, hence more opportunities.

No **** dude. I can't watch a free throw contest...

So who are you cheering for in the game?Heat or Mavs?

Demonata
05-31-2011, 11:38 AM
I didn't even think about that. Watching the end of Mavs and Heat games have been a beauty to watch. To your Demonata, while I hope FT aren't the underlying topic of this series, something tells me it will be. I hope the officials let both teams play a little more physical. If they don't, it will ruin the flow of the games and Dirk will score 60 points based on the way he's been playing. FT's initially might not be a big deal, but it adds up in the end. As long as I don't hear *****ing and moaning about it, I'm cool. :)

As long as wade,lebrawn and dirk don't try to just draw fouls like they have been then I will be happy. You even have to admit that 4 point play wade got in the bulls series was kinda ridiculous and I hate the bulls.

justinnum1
05-31-2011, 11:39 AM
Will you at least admit that we have an advantage over your point guard?

Our pg is usually lenbron, so you do not have an advantage there.

justinnum1
05-31-2011, 11:41 AM
Well, the heat going small would help the Mavs in the series get more rebounds... Wasn't miami having trouble getting rebounds in the playoffs? I do admit it wont be fun guarding wade and lebrawn though.

miami is a top 5 rebounding team, dallas is not even top 10

SteBO
05-31-2011, 11:42 AM
As long as wade,lebrawn and dirk don't try to just draw fouls like they have been then I will be happy. You even have to admit that 4 point play wade got in the bulls series was kinda ridiculous and I hate the bulls.

Meh. I'm iffy on that 4-point play. It looked like Rose may have touched him on the elbow, but Wade did a good job selling it, making it worse than it really was. Dirk will draw fouls anyway, because you have to guard him physically, if you don't he'll drop 50 on you the way he's been playing. LeBron and Wade are always on attack, so they'll draw fouls as well, but they have to look to finish plays, not just get FT's. This series will be fun. Dallas is way better than I thought entering the playoffs, and Miami has come on strong. I see this giong 7-games. Miami has yet to face an offense as potent as this one.

Hawkeye15
05-31-2011, 11:44 AM
So who are you cheering for in the game?Heat or Mavs?

I go back and forth on it man. I really like Bron, and have always been a fan of Wade, so it would be great if Bron could win a ring and get that monkey off his back. The haters would shut up a bit too, although they will always find something to go after Bron on.

And then there is Dirk, who is one of my favorite players in the league, and I know the Mavs window is much shorter.

Like I said, I go back and forth. But I can say for sure that I am happy either way. Its apparent that the Heat will not be denied from a championship over the next few years, so if the Mavs win, I will just have to deal with the Bron criticism for a bit longer haha

Demonata
05-31-2011, 11:53 AM
I just think Dirk and Kidd finally need to get there ring, they stayed with there team and didn't leave to get a ring so I respect them for it. I am a jazz fan first and dallas fan second. I was cheering for Heat against the Bulls so Boozer could lose but not now that they are playing Dallas.

jtsunami
05-31-2011, 11:58 AM
Let's go Mavs! Dirk! Barea! JET!

Demonata
05-31-2011, 12:00 PM
Let's go Mavs! Dirk! Barea! JET!

:clap: Big game today.

mikealike305
05-31-2011, 12:08 PM
let's go mavs! Dirk! Barea! Jet!

arnt u a bulls fan?

MrfadeawayJB
05-31-2011, 12:25 PM
I am looking forward to this one. Please dont dissapoint me Stern!!!

jp611
05-31-2011, 12:31 PM
Let's go mavs! Dirk deserves a ring big time

theheatles
05-31-2011, 12:34 PM
miami wins 96-90

Demonata
05-31-2011, 12:46 PM
Mavs win by bench outscoring Heats by 20+ and dirk getting at least 25.
Mavs win 96-90

beasted86
05-31-2011, 01:03 PM
If the Mavs score over 95, they will win. Miami has to stifle them with defense and keep this in the 80s or low 90s to win.

SteBO
05-31-2011, 01:08 PM
The keys for Miami are simple.

1) Don't allow the defense of Dallas to dictate what you do offensively. You're an attacking team and can get to the rim, for it's your identity. Don't ever shy away from it. You aren't going up against the smothering defense of the Bulls anymore, so there shouldn't be any excuses for not attacking the rim relentlessly, even they do go zone. Make them adjust to you, not the other way around.

2) When the Mavs switch to zone D, if Bosh is in the game, he needs to flash to FT line area, and get his mid-range game going. This is one of the only ways we can expose the zone, as well our three-point guns hitting some shots. Miller needs to look for his shot more in this series. The one game he did, he came up huge when we needed it. We need consistent production from him all series long, as well the other intangibles he brings to the table.

3) Lastly, their three-point shooting is lethal enough as it is, so don't leave them open and then compund the problem by giving them second shots. We were killed in that area in our 98-96 home loss to them earlier this year, because we didn't box out and keep Marion and Chandler off the boards, leading to Jason Terry's 19-point fourth quarter. You're asking for trouble when you give this team second chances.

Most importantly though, if we don't play the defense we've been playing and rebound, we won't win. Period. It's that simple. Chicago wasn't an offensive juggernaut, but we still had to defend them to keep them from getting easy baskets. Our rotations need to be to near perfection if we're going to stop them from shooting a high percentage from 3 point land. As for Dirk, well, we just gotta do our best. The way he's been playing, he looks unstoppable.

justinnum1
05-31-2011, 01:23 PM
arnt u a bulls fan?
:laugh:

jp611
05-31-2011, 01:30 PM
:laugh:

Like you wouldnt be rooting for the mavs if the bulls made the finals :eyebrow:

daleja424
05-31-2011, 02:13 PM
Im going tonight. Im sooo freakkking pumped!

SteBO
05-31-2011, 02:14 PM
Im going tonight. Im sooo freakkking pumped!

Luck you!!

justinnum1
05-31-2011, 02:29 PM
Im going tonight. Im sooo freakkking pumped!

Yep, tonight should be awesome

Big Zo
05-31-2011, 02:51 PM
Im going tonight. Im sooo freakkking pumped!

I'll be there as well in the standing room only section. Hope I don't feel like i'm about to jump off a plane.

jtsunami
05-31-2011, 03:07 PM
arnt u a bulls fan?

Of course I am. I'm also a two week Mavs fan.

ll_eric_ll
05-31-2011, 03:37 PM
I wont predict a winner or a score,... but I'm rooting for a great game first and foremost, and a Mavs win,.. Good luck to both teams and fans,.. and may da best team win,.. And I'm praying to God that da reffs will be unexisting this whole series..lol

jtsunami
05-31-2011, 03:57 PM
Don't count on it.

KnicksR4Real
05-31-2011, 04:02 PM
clean thread... love the setup

KnicksR4Real
05-31-2011, 04:02 PM
btw i have the heat. i wish it were the mavs, but the heat simply overpower them.

beasted86
05-31-2011, 04:19 PM
Im going tonight. Im sooo freakkking pumped!

Good for you.

I have been debating going to the Finals and it's been a really tough decision not to buy tickets.

Hawkeye15
05-31-2011, 04:23 PM
Of course I am. I'm also a two week Mavs fan.

haha, well played sir. I am the same at times. I am a fan of anyone playing the Lakers....

John Walls Era
05-31-2011, 04:26 PM
Love the late start (9 PM ET). Still allow me to catch the 2nd half after work :).

Go Heat!

Gibby23
05-31-2011, 04:30 PM
haha, well played sir. I am the same at times. I am a fan of anyone playing the Lakers....

You might as well be a a fan of any team playing th lakers. The Lakers lose about 20 to 30 times a year and the Wolves win about 15 to 20 times a year. Atleast you get the joy of a team winning about 40 to 50 times a year.

jp611
05-31-2011, 05:46 PM
This has got to be the first time in a long time that the NBA Finals started before the Stanley Cup

marlinsfan24
05-31-2011, 05:53 PM
Heat win 93-89. Dwyane Wade leading scorer with 29.

SportsFanatic10
05-31-2011, 05:57 PM
This has got to be the first time in a long time that the NBA Finals started before the Stanley Cup

i think you're right. usually basketball is behind by a week or 2 from hockey playoffs it seems. most nba series have been short and the hockey playoffs had a number of game 7s so i'm guessing thats what happened but even at the start of the playoffs for both leagues it seemed closer than what i ever remember it being schedule wise.

ShiroRX
05-31-2011, 06:38 PM
It's a real long 2 1/2 hours left. Time to go smoke myself into oblivion till then.

shizzle09
05-31-2011, 06:43 PM
98-95 Miami. Good luck Mavs fans. Should be a good series

zo#33
05-31-2011, 07:41 PM
Carlisle just said that the mavs have prepared for Haslem to start. I doubt it

Big Zo
05-31-2011, 07:55 PM
I'm here at the arena. Just saw Dirk on the court preparing himself mentally to lose.

12evolution 9
05-31-2011, 08:00 PM
ooo ya its close to coming down

heyman321
05-31-2011, 08:06 PM
Im going tonight. Im sooo freakkking pumped!

Lucky sob!! Enjoy the game!!

Bruno
05-31-2011, 08:08 PM
I'm taking Dallas. I think they know that if they can steal game one that their changes of winning this series are fantastic. I think they'll play with the sense of urgency necessary to steal a game on the road.

I also wouldn't be surprised if Miami just comes out and wins by 10+. I suppose I'm banking on the "now or never" mentality of the Mavericks, and Dirks 4th quarter play to get the Mavs over the hump in game one, in a close one.

Dallas by four-five points.

CHANGO
05-31-2011, 08:12 PM
:jumpy:

Cromedome
05-31-2011, 08:13 PM
Dallas needs to win for the order to be restored in the NBA.