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assisi805
05-26-2011, 11:31 PM
Who ya'll think got this one and how ya see it going?

210Don
05-26-2011, 11:31 PM
heat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!
dirk will never get a ring

metsfaninSTL
05-26-2011, 11:33 PM
heat will win, but i wants dallas to win

knicksfan42
05-26-2011, 11:34 PM
Hope the Mavs win, but the refs will probably give it to the Heat just like they did in 06.

MiamiWadeCounty
05-26-2011, 11:34 PM
Heat in 7.

LTBaByyy
05-26-2011, 11:35 PM
Dallas in 6

We are toooooo hungry, Dirk will have a feast against Bosh

Chill_Will_24
05-26-2011, 11:35 PM
Nobody can stop this Heat team with the way the refs are calling it

210Don
05-26-2011, 11:36 PM
Nobody can stop this Heat team...

true that.... i see a 4peat in the making

king4day
05-26-2011, 11:36 PM
Hard to pick against Miami but Dallas is more experienced than Chicago. I don't see the same meltdowns.

Dallas' bench is superior and they have guys who can truely hassle Lebron and Wade.

I pick Dallas in 6 but it wouldn't shock me if it went the other way.

fishfan79
05-26-2011, 11:36 PM
I will go heat in 7 but dallas is a damn good team so stocked and talented.

assisi805
05-26-2011, 11:36 PM
We are toooooo hungry, Dirk will have a feast against Bosh
:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap: Can't wait till Dirk drops 50 on bosh just to watch bosh cry. But I still think heat got it and that hurts to say.

LTBaByyy
05-26-2011, 11:37 PM
The Heat can be stopped with shooters

The teams they played missed 3's

ArmLaker
05-26-2011, 11:37 PM
Dallas hands down....much deeper team and the other team i was rooting for in these playoffs anyways

Crackadalic
05-26-2011, 11:37 PM
Dallas is a cut above the bulls. This won't be a cake walk for Miami. Dallas in 7

NothingbutWill
05-26-2011, 11:39 PM
Heat is going to win in 6

Lebron and Wade are going to average 20 free throws each game and score 30+ points each game.

heyman321
05-26-2011, 11:39 PM
Dallas in 5. The Dallas bench is a lot better than Miami's. This series will come down to how well Marion can guard Lebron and how well Kidd guards Wade. Dirk will feast on Bosh, he might drop a couple more 40 point games. This is provided, that Stern doesn't give it to the Heat via the refs again like 06.

knicksfan42
05-26-2011, 11:39 PM
Dallas in 6

We are toooooo hungry, Dirk will have a feast against Bosh

I assume you watched the 06 Finals so do you really think the refs are going to let the Heat lose. I mean they have Wade AND LeBron now, 50 fts a piece from the refs if thats what it takes for the Heat to win.

Underrated Wade
05-26-2011, 11:39 PM
can some1 explain to me what exactly people are saying when they say refs give them every call? not trying to argue but i rlly didnt see anything wrong. please give me some specific plays. game 5 miami vs bulls preferred. and the only non-call i saw was when rose hit wade. and to reply to this thread i think wade will take over like he did before. but dirk also has that bitter taste in his mouth. i hope miami wins but not too sure

LTBaByyy
05-26-2011, 11:41 PM
Our zone stopped them easily (reason we were 2-0)

They already dont have plays, DEF not against zone

210Don
05-26-2011, 11:41 PM
lol @ zone stopping wade & lebron yeah right.

Cano4prez
05-26-2011, 11:43 PM
Our zone stopped them easily (reason we were 2-0)

They already dont have plays, DEF not against zone

Chicago was 3-0

Master Mind
05-26-2011, 11:43 PM
Ppl already complaining about refs :pity:

ironkobe
05-26-2011, 11:43 PM
rooting for dallas but the heat will win this in 6 in will be the camps for the next 5 or 6 years unless d haward joins the knick/lakers/bulls/Celtics

heyman321
05-26-2011, 11:44 PM
lol @ zone stopping wade & lebron yeah right.

lol @ the Spurs being beat by an eighth seed.

central2003
05-26-2011, 11:45 PM
I say Dallas wins it at 6. Dallas bench is way too deep.

Sportfan
05-26-2011, 11:45 PM
We should all wear "In Dirk we Trust" sigs for the series.

Sportfan
05-26-2011, 11:46 PM
lol @ the Spurs being beat by an eighth seed.
quit the trolling man.



I'm praying for a Dallas upset, but I don't think they can stop the Heat. Heat in 6

droalex
05-26-2011, 11:46 PM
Dallas in 4

LTBaByyy
05-26-2011, 11:47 PM
Lol @ 210Don saying the Blazers, Lakers, Thunder, and now the Heat to win

Love it!! We prove him wrong everytime!

The teams the Heat played shot the ball bad and had 1 SHOOTER

Mavs have like 5 and the Mavericks 3 ball and bench will win this series

210Don
05-26-2011, 11:48 PM
lol @ thinking a western conference finals is a accomplishment win a championship first then talk all you want.

210Don
05-26-2011, 11:49 PM
lol @ the Spurs being beat by an eighth seed.

congratz on the weight loss bro:)

mzgrizz
05-26-2011, 11:50 PM
Ppl already complaining about refs :pity:

:laugh2:

LTBaByyy
05-26-2011, 11:50 PM
210Don talks more about the Mavs than the Spurs!!! Haha

:)

knicksfan42
05-26-2011, 11:51 PM
Ppl already complaining about refs :pity:

Which game during the 2006 it when Dwayne Wade set an NBA Finals record for most free throw attempts, 4 or 5? Oh it was game 5 the same game they gave the Heat the game with 1.9 seconds left. So much as looking in Wade's direction was a foul while Dirk was being mauled by Haslem.

210Don
05-26-2011, 11:51 PM
maybe cause your on the finals lol
dont worry bout me bro your on the finals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mzgrizz
05-26-2011, 11:52 PM
Too close for me to call yet....think it'll go 7

assisi805
05-26-2011, 11:52 PM
We should all wear "In Dirk we Trust" sigs for the series.

Make it im game!

airronijordan
05-26-2011, 11:53 PM
Im rooting for Dallas, but Miami will win this series

They have HCA, which is huge because Miami will have home court for Games 6&7 (if necessary)

Dallas hasn't played a great defensive team in the playoffs, Miami would be able to limit them

I think Wade will explode again, bc I think Marion will do a good defensive job against Lebron

WadeCounty
05-26-2011, 11:54 PM
i'm rooting for my home team miami all the way but I pick mavs winning it all

Jewelz0376
05-26-2011, 11:55 PM
I voted for Mia...but I really can't say...its a tough series to call

I'll probably change my mind more than once be4 series starts

LTBaByyy
05-26-2011, 11:55 PM
Ahhhh it feels good for 210Don to tell me we are in the Finals

:) Goodnight everyone, that made my day!

#GoMavs

koreancabbage
05-26-2011, 11:56 PM
even though i'm a Miami Heat bandwagon fan by nature, i think Dallas is going to win this. good defense, great big man, and a player that Miami cannot guard.

Dallas in 7?

Iron24th
05-26-2011, 11:56 PM
Heat in 6,Miami is a different animal than what dallas met before.

StriveGreatness
05-26-2011, 11:58 PM
Heat in 5. I'm pulling for the Heat.

greek miami hea
05-26-2011, 11:59 PM
mavs will struggle with this heat defense.end of the story!our 3 superstars will take control of the series.game over! when is the 1st game?

hestar
05-27-2011, 12:00 AM
The Heat can be stopped with shooters

The teams they played missed 3's

The mavs can be stopped 2.OKC killed themselves.Heat in 4

Wade_County
05-27-2011, 12:00 AM
if anyone cares Miami is 2 to 1 favs to win.

Wade_County
05-27-2011, 12:01 AM
mavs will struggle with this heat defense.end of the story!our 3 superstars will take control of the series.game over! when is the 1st game?

Tuesday

heyman321
05-27-2011, 12:01 AM
congratz on the weight loss bro:)

Congrats on your team rebuilding for the next ten years.
It's pretty funny and ironic that you've been trolling pretty much every team except for the Spurs and ESPECIALLY the Mavericks, and they're in the Finals now.

MrfadeawayJB
05-27-2011, 12:01 AM
Wow this one is going to be great. I see Dallas winning in 6, and Dirk getting sweet revenge from 2006. However, I would not put money on this, (I would never bet against Miami's big 3 after that performance tonight)

shep33
05-27-2011, 12:02 AM
Heat in 5 or 6 I think.

shep33
05-27-2011, 12:05 AM
What's going to be interesting is Bosh and Dirk... I think Dirk will be guarded by Bosh, but Chandler will guard Bosh, leaving Dirk to just play offense like he has been doing this postseason.

What's going to be interesting is whether Miami doubles Dirk. If they do they'll get burned by 3, with Kidd, terry, and Peja all being on the floor at times. Interesting... I still think Miami wins in 5-6, they'll close out on the shooters very quickly.

naps
05-27-2011, 12:07 AM
I assume you watched the 06 Finals so do you really think the refs are going to let the Heat lose. I mean they have Wade AND LeBron now, 50 fts a piece from the refs if thats what it takes for the Heat to win.

Did watch the same series I watched? Stop with these BS excuses. You are just mad because you guys didn't get LeBron. Welcome to another decade of irrelevance!

JordansBulls
05-27-2011, 12:13 AM
http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2011/matchup/_/teams/mavericks-heat

knicksfan42
05-27-2011, 12:20 AM
Did watch the same series I watched? Stop with these BS excuses. You are just mad because you guys didn't get LeBron. Welcome to another decade of irrelevance!


Yep the exact same series, the one where Dwayne Wade broke Finals records for free throw attempts.

Anyone who uses you mad and accuses other people of jealousy is a moron. Interesting to note that someone else said "Welcome to another decade of irrelevance!" in this thread to a Spurs fan.

Ebbs
05-27-2011, 12:21 AM
I'm so excited. But also nervous

cwilson21
05-27-2011, 12:25 AM
Dallas in 6.

marlinsfan24
05-27-2011, 12:28 AM
Heat in 7. Heat will prevail because of HCA in a tough, tough series.

MTar786
05-27-2011, 12:30 AM
its crazy to know that wade broke finals records in free throw attempts when the nba had shaq in his prime 3 years in a row and another 2 times in the hack-a-shaq era and wade still shot more. rigged much? the good thing is that the nba owes dallas a fair reffed series. i wonder if they'll at least get it called straight down the line? btw its funny because i was all for miami in 06. now im all for dallas this time around. i called miami in 6 in 06. nobody believed me. i call dallas in 6 this time. im sure i have some wo share my belief. n yes id call miami a 2 to 1 fav. but dallas is still winning in 6

Big Zo
05-27-2011, 12:30 AM
Time to bust out the David Hasselhoff signs!

omdigga
05-27-2011, 12:32 AM
gonna be a fun series.. i think dallas is gonna win..

fadedmario
05-27-2011, 12:32 AM
Heat in 7 - but Dallas has a great shot - Could be Dallas in 7 - Either way I think it's going 7

mjt20mik
05-27-2011, 12:33 AM
If Nike's figures are correct, the Heat are winning it.

LionsFan..LOL
05-27-2011, 12:42 AM
I want the Mavs to win but my gut keeps telling me LBJ and Wade will pull it off. I honestly hope to god I'm wrong. Either way this series should and will go 7 exciting games.

kjoke
05-27-2011, 12:45 AM
I dont think, for the most part, bosh will be on Dirk. But i may be wrong.

TheHighLife
05-27-2011, 12:48 AM
Dallas in 3. Heat will ***** out.

Trueblue2
05-27-2011, 12:50 AM
can some1 explain to me what exactly people are saying when they say refs give them every call? not trying to argue but i rlly didnt see anything wrong. please give me some specific plays. game 5 miami vs bulls preferred. and the only non-call i saw was when rose hit wade. and to reply to this thread i think wade will take over like he did before. but dirk also has that bitter taste in his mouth. i hope miami wins but not too sure


Theyre more referring to the 06 finals when the refs handed the title to the heat, unless they're bulls fans in which case they're just whining.

Master Mind
05-27-2011, 12:56 AM
Remember...Dirk is gonna have to guard Bosh too

heyman321
05-27-2011, 12:58 AM
Remember...Dirk is gonna have to guard Bosh too

No he won't Tyson Chandler will. And why do you type in bold?

zo#33
05-27-2011, 12:59 AM
I have the Heat in 7 right now. Dont see them losing at home.

But damn, I really want Dirk to get a ring

zo#33
05-27-2011, 12:59 AM
I have the Heat in 7 right now. Dont see them losing at home.

But damn, I really want Dirk to get a ring

Tanakid777
05-27-2011, 01:00 AM
objective: Miami in six hopeful homer: Dallas in seven. This series will be the only one where the absence of Caron hurts us, specifically on D. He did good on Bron in the regukar season

SP17
05-27-2011, 01:02 AM
Miami in 6..

Tanakid777
05-27-2011, 01:04 AM
I expect the officiating to be straight, based on the fact that it's gonna be under the national media microscope

calibird707
05-27-2011, 01:06 AM
Dallas is way deeper than Miami...they share the ball beautifully and dirk is outta this world right now..plus dallas has active bigs that play d...dallas in six or seven..it is their year

Sportfan
05-27-2011, 01:09 AM
I expect the officiating to be straight, based on the fact that it's gonna be under the national media microscope
Because the other playoff series weren't?

bholly
05-27-2011, 01:10 AM
can some1 explain to me what exactly people are saying when they say refs give them every call? not trying to argue but i rlly didnt see anything wrong. please give me some specific plays. game 5 miami vs bulls preferred. and the only non-call i saw was when rose hit wade. and to reply to this thread i think wade will take over like he did before. but dirk also has that bitter taste in his mouth. i hope miami wins but not too sure

I know you were hoping for something from this series, but a super clear example to me is the Wade and-1 with 1:34 left in Game 1 against the Sixers. Sixers rolled back from 11 down, were within 3, and Wade commits a clear offensive foul by kicking his leg out to create space between him and Thad Young. Instead of calling it, the refs call it as a defensive foul on Thad and give the Heat a 5 point lead and a chance at one more. It completely changed the momentum of the game.

That was a 'superstar call'. If any other player kicks out the leg like that, chances are it's an offensive foul. Wade does it, and it's a defensive foul and a highlight.

I don't like the extent to which people complain about refereeing and the number of fouls, and I have been a big Wade admirer, but superstar calls do happen, and have been happening for a loooong time.

bholly
05-27-2011, 01:10 AM
Ahhhh it feels good for 210Don to tell me we are in the Finals

:) Goodnight everyone, that made my day!

#GoMavs

lol, it feels good for me to hear him tell you that, and I like the Spurs.

Tanakid777
05-27-2011, 01:13 AM
Because the other playoff series weren't?
I'm talking about the constant focus on the God-awful officiating of 2006. It will be talked about, and the officiating will be microscopically analyzed based on the past

what54!?
05-27-2011, 01:17 AM
well both these teams are different then the 06 teams so I really don't know. But I like my teams defense so I pick the heat of course

emman03
05-27-2011, 01:22 AM
heat in 6 because its sweeter to win at home but heat can take mavs in 4 anytime they want :) sorry mavs fans the destiny can't be stop heat is destined to be the champion!! be careful what you wish for!!

yboord028
05-27-2011, 01:24 AM
Dallas is way deeper than Miami...they share the ball beautifully and dirk is outta this world right now..plus dallas has active bigs that play d...dallas in six or seven..it is their year

Where have I heard this phrase before? hmmmm...?

JNA17
05-27-2011, 01:25 AM
Heat win this easily in 5. Mavs are a jump shooting team that also live and die by the three with the exception of Dirk. Heat's transition offense and their defense will obliterate them.

I want the Mavs to win, but I'm just being realistic, it won't happen :(.

SP17
05-27-2011, 01:27 AM
heat in 6 because its sweeter to win at home but heat can take mavs in 4 anytime they want :) sorry mavs fans the destiny can't be stop heat is destined to be the champion!! be careful what you wish for!!

Getting way aboard of yourself bro..no way you sweep this hungry dallas team..

Sportfan
05-27-2011, 01:29 AM
Wear the sig!

SP17
05-27-2011, 01:30 AM
For some of those posters saying noah was a top 5 center in the league I think the series with the heat prove them wrong..

lakeshow3peat
05-27-2011, 01:31 AM
From the words of Mark Cuban and as a lakers fan i am rooting for the Mavs trophy staying in the west Dallas is going to get its ring and deny the king yet another shot at his first . Dirk is going to be too much for lebron and the heat . Jason terry and peja and yea the lil guy that andrew bynum knocked down is going to have the heat thinking how do we stop them . Dallas in 5

Voodoo Alchemy
05-27-2011, 01:33 AM
dallas sweep. it's hard to bet against a team that took down the lakers in 4.

emman03
05-27-2011, 01:35 AM
hey this boy up in my post has no team in the finals so do you shut up no way mavs beat the heat in 5 are you crazy!

SportsFanatic10
05-27-2011, 01:39 AM
mavs shooters are scary but i've got heat in 6

Raph12
05-27-2011, 01:41 AM
heat will win, but i wants dallas to win

This

lakeshow3peat
05-27-2011, 01:42 AM
hey this boy up in my post has no team in the finals so do you shut up no way mavs beat the heat in 5 are you crazy!

Just cause my team isnt in the finals gives you a reason to say i cant give my opinion on the finals ? lol your a joke man Dallas has been more consistence and more of a team than the heat sorry good team but i will take dirk over lebron any day of the week and take Jet and peja over the heats shooters they cant be stopped .

DoJoTheSlasher
05-27-2011, 01:44 AM
mavs will struggle with this heat defense.end of the story!our 3 superstars will take control of the series.game over! when is the 1st game?

If Chris Bosh is a superstar then Kidd and Chandler are superstars. Bosh is in now way, shape or form a superstar.

MR.TRIPDUB
05-27-2011, 01:45 AM
I really think dallas can win this. Dallas is a lot better if its a defensive game.
Dallas in 6. They are fighting for the other 29 teams in the nba.

heyman321
05-27-2011, 01:47 AM
It's amazing that the "expert picks" on ESPN are still choosing against Dallas even though they've been wrong each round. Jon Barry is the only smart guy there. Man, Wilbon is a complete idiot.

cbs134679
05-27-2011, 01:47 AM
For some of those posters saying noah was a top 5 center in the league I think the series with the heat prove them wrong..

Yeah these playoffs has exposed alot of overrated players.

Toxeryll
05-27-2011, 01:48 AM
i want dallas to win but i see miami winning in 6

Tanakid777
05-27-2011, 01:55 AM
heat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!
dirk will never get a ring

I find it quite sad that you troll every Mavs-related thread. I also find a tad bit creepy that this is not the first time you have the first reply. It's like you sit around all day and wait for a Mavs-related thread, diligently refreshing your browser like the hardest working, most dedicated troll on the net. I admire your work ethic and mastery of your craft

Raph12
05-27-2011, 02:04 AM
Yeah these playoffs has exposed alot of overrated players.

Amen brother...

DoJoTheSlasher
05-27-2011, 02:08 AM
Amen brother...

Pau Gasol and Russell Westbrook being 2 of them. People thought Pau was head and shoulders better than Dirk. Is Pau even a 5th of the player Dirk is? And people thought Russ was a top 15 player.:facepalm:

John Walls Era
05-27-2011, 02:10 AM
If Chris Bosh is a superstar then Kidd and Chandler are superstars. Bosh is in now way, shape or form a superstar.

:laugh2: You're joking right? Kidd is not a superstar anymore and Chandler isn't even an All Star. Chris Bosh has been clutch in the series vs. the Bulls.

John Walls Era
05-27-2011, 02:11 AM
I want Heat to win, but Dallas is a legit threat. I could see Dallas winning in 6. Hopefully not.

Eat_At_Joe's
05-27-2011, 02:12 AM
Mavericks.

shizzle09
05-27-2011, 02:16 AM
Heat in 7. Got mad respect for Dallas.

MFFL==FML
05-27-2011, 02:20 AM
Heat in 7. Got mad respect for Dallas.

Mavericks in 6, Heat win first 2 games, and Dallas wins 4 straight.

I see a complete reverse of the 06' Finals with the Heat now having HCA.

John Walls Era
05-27-2011, 02:23 AM
I'm picking Mavs in 6 as well. Dirk is too good. The only way they lose is if 1) Dirk gets hurt or 2) Every other player ****s their pants and comes up short.

MTar786
05-27-2011, 02:26 AM
i wish dallas would not only win it.. but go down in an 0-3 hole and be the first team ever to come back down 0-3 to win it all

hard_candy
05-27-2011, 02:44 AM
Heat in 5 or 6. I'll let you know on Tuesday.

AllBall
05-27-2011, 02:47 AM
Heat In 6

LongWayFromHome
05-27-2011, 03:18 AM
i wish dallas would not only win it.. but go down in an 0-3 hole and be the first team ever to come back down 0-3 to win it all

This.

And have Lebron majorly choke and he can start feeling the pain that Dirk suffers with.

12evolution 9
05-27-2011, 03:29 AM
The Heat can be stopped with shooters

The teams they played missed 3's

The teams we played... Philly made three's ...

Celtics made threes....

The teams we played.... . played defense....

teams you played... didnt play defense....


Better offensive team vs BEST defense ... good games

SP17
05-27-2011, 03:44 AM
Pau Gasol and Russell Westbrook being 2 of them. People thought Pau was head and shoulders better than Dirk. Is Pau even a 5th of the player Dirk is? And people thought Russ was a top 15 player.:facepalm:

People who thought of that are plain stupid..Dirk was always one of the best PF and as for your 2nd statement..not even 1/5 of DIrk..LOL.. you must be talking about DJ mbenga.

josh81589
05-27-2011, 03:53 AM
I love how so many people are saying heat win this easily. There is no way dirk let's that happen! It's going to be a good series but I think dallas wins in 6. Chandler and haywood can handle drives to the lane and can contain bosh, Marion can guard lebron, he did a great job on Durant, wade is the one I think we will have the most trouble with.

goeatfish63
05-27-2011, 03:55 AM
heat in 7, i wanna see a great close series.

Wrigheyes4MVP
05-27-2011, 03:58 AM
Dallas in 7...but I think this series could go either way.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say whoever wins game 1 will win the series.

SP17
05-27-2011, 04:00 AM
I love how so many people are saying heat win this easily. There is no way dirk let's that happen! It's going to be a good series but I think dallas wins in 6. Chandler and haywood can handle drives to the lane and can contain bosh, Marion can guard lebron, he did a great job on Durant, wade is the one I think we will have the most trouble with.

I think they will put jkidd on wade..I love kidd's defense against SG.. he defense wisely and love his d on kobe in the West semis.

LakerPride
05-27-2011, 04:56 AM
close call but id bet my money with dallas. better bench and they are tall with good defensive schemes

Sportfan
05-27-2011, 07:22 AM
I love how everyone predicted Dallas to be the easy upset call in the first round giants the Blazers, now they are favored over Miami in the finals :laugh2:

Iron24th
05-27-2011, 07:39 AM
Time to bust out the David Hasselhoff signs!

loool I really hope so!

It was priceless!

TopsyTurvy
05-27-2011, 07:47 AM
I'm voting for the officiating. If it goes to South Beach (as it did before) Mark Cuban will kill someone courtside.

Joking aside, I have the Heat winning in 6 barring one or two historic perimeter nights from the Mavs.

Holydiver
05-27-2011, 07:47 AM
The Heat can be stopped with shooters

The teams they played missed 3's

if Korver and Rose hit their 3's this series would be 3-2 Bulls now.

quade36
05-27-2011, 07:50 AM
can some1 explain to me what exactly people are saying when they say refs give them every call? not trying to argue but i rlly didnt see anything wrong. please give me some specific plays. game 5 miami vs bulls preferred. and the only non-call i saw was when rose hit wade. and to reply to this thread i think wade will take over like he did before. but dirk also has that bitter taste in his mouth. i hope miami wins but not too sure

Rose no call foul while getting hammered by Wade shooting a 3. Boozer's offensive rebound foul when Haslem pushed him back trying to grab a rebound. Gibson's offensive foul while not even touching Haslem on his dunk. In general the ridiculous amount of offensive foul calls on the Bulls and this is a team who hardly ever got an offensive foul call during the season. Second game in a row where the heat had more than 10 more FT attempts. A big key to this is points in the paint. The Bulls had more points scored in the paint in almost every game in the series yet didn't get as many foul calls that put them on the line. There was contact constantly on both sides too. BTW, before Heat fans get their panties in a bundle I totally agree Bulls got the benefit of the calls in the Indiana series. So as a fan, I see the other side of it now, bad taste. Heck, my relative is a Heat fan (though I'd like to note he is a little older and more realistic than a lot of people on this forum) and he even agreed the Heat benefited from calling. To me it seems like the NBA feels teams or players have to pay their dues or something. Hence Indiana, a young and inexperienced team not getting calls against the Bulls, and the Bulls paying their dues in the ECF. Ironically the Bull/Hawks games had pretty even officiating. As a Bulls fan, if the Hawks would have won that series I'd have less of a bad taste because it just seemed like they battled.

That doesn't matter though because a good team overcomes bad officiating and the Bulls couldn't. That being said, Dallas will have the same issues. The Refs in general try to control the pace of the game (for some reason.) I think their impact will be dictated on how many offensive foul calls are on the Mavs. BTW, I think the offensive foul call is the most opinionated call in basketball. Its almost impossible to say a defensive player was standing still or in a lot of cases not having a foot in the arc. Very rarely is an offensive foul a clear and obvious call.

I really don't care who wins I just don't want the games dictating by poor officiating. If the Heat are to win, I want them to win because of their players just playing better not having bad games or series except for spurts here and there.

BTW, this is the NBA championship I predicted at the beginning of the season so at least I am happy to say my prediction was correct :)

jp611
05-27-2011, 08:00 AM
I want the Mavs to win, but I don't see Stern letting that happen

kingkenny01
05-27-2011, 08:13 AM
Heat in three, they win so bad they call out the slaughter rule

marj987
05-27-2011, 08:28 AM
I think they will put jkidd on wade..I love kidd's defense against SG.. he defense wisely and love his d on kobe in the West semis.

No....I think they might rely on Marion for a while and when he rests put kidd on James.......The mavericks have to rely on defense this series......And yes.....when I say that I mean that Dirk is going to have to foul the living **** out of players.

strokeman
05-27-2011, 08:30 AM
Hope the Mavs win, but the refs will probably give it to the Heat just like they did in 06.

:clap: if they do that again i'm NFL all da way, F the NBA! but this has been the worst officiating Iíve seen since 06! :facepalm:
oh and i'm a LA fan! but i want the games to be called down the middle!

69centers
05-27-2011, 09:01 AM
Dallas splits in Miami then win all 3 at home. Dallas in 5.

JCmasta
05-27-2011, 09:45 AM
When i look at both teams respective playoffs runs, both have been dominant, but i like the mavs run a lot more. When you look at all the teams the Heat faced, they're all really limited offensively.

I think the Mavs will be the most balanced/versatile team they faced this playoffs, they have 3 or 4 guys outside of Dirk(Terry, Barea, Marion, Peja) that can get you 20 on any given night. They have great defensive players(Chandler, Haywood, Kidd, Brewer, Stevenson, Marion) that are capable of shutting guys down.

Miami will have 3 of the best 4 players on the court, but i think our bench/role players are much better than theirs which i think will be the difference. Mavs in 6.

m26555
05-27-2011, 09:50 AM
Mavericks in six. Dirk is playing at a RIDICULOUS level right now.

PhillyFaninLA
05-27-2011, 09:58 AM
I don't care who wins. This may be the last real chance for Dirk and Kidd but I do want Lebron to get a ring so he'll start to be talked about where he deserves historically and you never know if you'll make it back no matter how good the team is.

What I hope is 7 dramatic games between 2 teams leaving every ounce of energy, passion, desire, skill, and focus on that court every night.

JJNation21
05-27-2011, 10:01 AM
every series other then the 76ers most people have picked against the Heat so im not so sure I want to pick against them. That being said Dallas has a better "team" then the Heat but that argument was the same for the Celtics and Bulls.

I honestly don't know who to pick from a Basketball standpoint the Mavs should have the advantage..No one on the Heat can cover Dirk, Bosh and Haslem are gunna have their hands full for 3 Qs then Lebron in the 4th (he is shorter but much more atheltic then anyone else who has been covering Dirk) But the Heat still have 3 of the best 4 players on the court....Also in terms of desire i think its even the Mavs have aging vets who have never won a ring and the Heat are trying to prove how great they are..Dirk and Lebron have the same desire for the ring, the only difference is I think Dirk realizes it is his last chance at it. I hipe it goes 7 and I hope no game is won by more than 3

Mr.ATLHawks
05-27-2011, 10:37 AM
This is going to be an interesting series. I am reading all the posts about how the Mavericks are far superior to the Bulls and etc.. Last time I checked Pretty much everyone had the Mavs as "Most likely to get knocked out the 1st Round" I believe Sir Charles wqas the only guy who had faith in Dallas and was spot on when he said Dirk Nowitski was the most important player in the Dallas LA series. With this being said lets get into the nitty gritty of it.

1) Yes Dallas can shoot better then Chicago but will they get open looks? Lets face it the Miami will not be clogging the lane for Jason Kidd so all those open looks D Rose created for his shooters probably will not get those open looks

2) I am a huge Jason Kidd fan but can he guard Dwayne Wade?? Wade is playing like **** so this is a huge question mark for the Heat...

3) Shawn Marion wont be getting 23 points and 120 Offensive Rebounds with LBJ guarding him so cancel that out

4) The Mavericks were losing alot of games going into the 4th Quarter with 5-6 min left. Do you think Miami will have these kinds of break downs defensively/offensively? Blowing 10-15 point leads...

5) Dallas bench is alot better and Dirk will have a field day no question, but on the flip side Joel Anthony has been playing some tenacious defense. I say Miami makes him strictly a jump shooter and probably pushes him out as far as they can consistently

6) Lebron has put alot of those "closer" questions to rest, I think, and is playing really good ball right now and his jump shot is falling making him increasingly dangerous. look for him to step up and guard Dirk eventually, not saying it will make a difference, but who knows it flustered Rose maybe it does the same for Dirk

7) Refs are humans and players do excellent acting jobs sometimes cant really blame them. All the superstars get calls....point blank period. I saw a pretty equal amount of bad call and no call for both teams in the MIA/CHI series

8) Dallas cant defend like the Bulls but will probably need to step it up to contain the Heatles, but they can score better. If we learned anything from the past is that defense, more then not, wins championships.

The Heat look real hungry right now and are gelling at the right moment, Dallas also but I think the star power for Miami will hold. Miami's bench has been pretty good lately with Chalmers, Miller, and Haslem. 8 man rotation is all you need in the finals. The Big 3 will play 48 min a game if they have to to get that ring.

When its all said and done i think ther deciding factor will be coaching. JJ Barea will have to see inflated minutes to free up those shooters as Jason Kidd just doesnt have the quickness/scoring ability to get the attention. The Heat showed a zone last night as well so the zones could also be a big factor.

This will be a good series, but I say Miami in 6 based on the Home court advantage (which I believe they have it) and I think they steal 1 in Dallas.

marj987
05-27-2011, 10:41 AM
Why is everyone suddenly on the Mavericks side?..............."Go Dallas Mavericks."
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/fp/flashPollResultsState?sportIndex=frontpage&pollId=114031

mikealike305
05-27-2011, 10:45 AM
HEAT in 5 or 6. not sure yet

marj987
05-27-2011, 10:46 AM
The teams we played... Philly made three's ...

Celtics made threes....

The teams we played.... . played defense....

teams you played... didnt play defense....


Better offensive team vs BEST defense ... good games

You must not have watched the Portland series.........

John Walls Era
05-27-2011, 11:43 AM
:clap: if they do that again i'm NFL all da way, F the NBA! but this has been the worst officiating Iíve seen since 06! :facepalm:
oh and i'm a LA fan! but i want the games to be called down the middle!

What NFL? Theres a lockout bud...

cowboyz180
05-27-2011, 11:49 AM
Dallas in 6!

LTBaByyy
05-27-2011, 11:54 AM
Why does EVERYONE think Kidd is guarding Wade or Lebron

Stevenson and Marion will have those duties, Kidd will guard Bibby, who he will dominate like Miller and Fisher

justinnum1
05-27-2011, 12:02 PM
Miami has the best perimeter defense in the league and dallas has no chance of stopping the heat.

Sly Guy
05-27-2011, 12:11 PM
Dallas wins the title this year.

1. Veteran hunger knowing that their window is extremely limited
2. Dallas poses a much bigger offensive challenge than Chicago. You're focused on stopping a lot more weapons even before you even mention Dirk, who looks like a man on a mission, and the most unguardable person in the league right now.
3. Dallas will do a *decent* job defending the Heat big 3. I don't see Bosh being as big a factor coming up against the size of Dallas' front line. Wade looks like he's hurting, limiting the 'big 3' to a more manageable 1&1/2.
4. I expect JJ Barea to be big in this series. Small guy who takes care of the ball and finds the seams on the interior of defenses to hook up teammates and make plays. Every series I doubt him because of his size, but this time I won't.
5. Chemistry is in favor of Dallas as well. They've spent more years playing together, they have each other's trust and play off each other really well.

LBJ looks dominant, but I think it's going to take more than just him if the Heat are going to win. I don't expect a great series from Bosh, and the X-factor will be Wade.....If he can return to form/get healthy, this will go 7. Otherwise, Mavs in 5-6 games.

DoJoTheSlasher
05-27-2011, 01:14 PM
:laugh2: You're joking right? Kidd is not a superstar anymore and Chandler isn't even an All Star. Chris Bosh has been clutch in the series vs. the Bulls.

Let's see. Have you watched Kidd in the playoffs? He has made so many superstar plays. He was clutch in the series vs. OKC lol. And just because Chandler didn't get voted in as an All Star doesn't mean he isn't one. He turned a very bad defensive team into a CHAMPIONSHIP calibur defensive team. Funny how as soon as we get Chandler we make it back to the Finals. Chris Bosh is not a superstar... He is a borderline all star.

marlinsfan24
05-27-2011, 01:17 PM
Let's see. Have you watched Kidd in the playoffs? He has made so many superstar plays. He was clutch in the series vs. OKC lol. And just because Chandler didn't get voted in as an All Star doesn't mean he isn't one. He turned a very bad defensive team into a CHAMPIONSHIP calibur defensive team. Funny how as soon as we get Chandler we make it back to the Finals. Chris Bosh is not a superstar... He is a borderline all star.

6x time all-star is borderline all-star now? :speechless:

Lake_Show2416
05-27-2011, 01:28 PM
Revenge for the 2nd year in a row!

Havoc Wreaker
05-27-2011, 01:38 PM
I'm not voting for the team I see winning this, I'm voting the for the team I want to win this. Go Dallas :cheer:

Big Game Son
05-27-2011, 01:42 PM
Dallas in 5. Dirk has one bad game. Differential in points is huge and reminiscent of Spurs/Cavs series. If you think Miami's offense has any chance I'm sorry.....but the offense is super bad. That Chicago series was god aweful....except for D and Miami can't consistently gaurd Dallas' players. You can put LeBron on Rose....you can't put him on Dirk.

Ebbs
05-27-2011, 01:47 PM
Why does EVERYONE think Kidd is guarding Wade or Lebron

Stevenson and Marion will have those duties, Kidd will guard Bibby, who he will dominate like Miller and Fisher

Nah Kidd will spend a ton of time on Wade.

justinnum1
05-27-2011, 01:49 PM
Dallas in 5. Dirk has one bad game. Differential in points is huge and reminiscent of Spurs/Cavs series. If you think Miami's offense has any chance I'm sorry.....but the offense is super bad. That Chicago series was god aweful....except for D and Miami can't consistently gaurd Dallas' players. You can put LeBron on Rose....you can't put him on Dirk.

Im saving this one.

Sounds a lot like this
http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showpost.php?p=17914789&postcount=3055

mikealike305
05-27-2011, 01:50 PM
miami in 6. Dallas hasnt seen a defense like this.

John Walls Era
05-27-2011, 01:57 PM
Let's see. Have you watched Kidd in the playoffs? He has made so many superstar plays. He was clutch in the series vs. OKC lol. And just because Chandler didn't get voted in as an All Star doesn't mean he isn't one. He turned a very bad defensive team into a CHAMPIONSHIP calibur defensive team. Funny how as soon as we get Chandler we make it back to the Finals. Chris Bosh is not a superstar... He is a borderline all star.

Chandler is a good player and clearly a valuable piece for the Mavs, but hes not near the level of a Chris Bosh. Defensively hes great, but teams don't need to double him.

Big Game Son
05-27-2011, 01:57 PM
Im saving this one.

Sounds a lot like this
http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showpost.php?p=17914789&postcount=3055

Do save it! If I am wrong I'm willing to admit it.

However MAJOR differences in my strategic reasoning here than that other guys. Dallas has an elite offense and has been here before and lost. Also different players are capable of stepping up and hitting needed jumpers...unlike Chicago apparently. The Chicago surprise story finally ended. The level Dirk is playing on now is by far the best anyone has played in the playoffs. Also Kidd needs that ring and Dallas is playing defense to get it.

By context my argument is ENTIRELY different that guy's for Chicago. I knew that series was going to be a grind, but this one with Dallas except for one game won't be. Miami needs more pieces.

Lastly, expect someone like a JJ Barea kicking to Stojakovich to cause HUGE problems. Unfortunately Miami is going to have to waste massive energy with LeBron and Wade chasing the ball on D WAY too much. Dallas has insane 3's...Miami can't match that and it this is Spoelstra's main area of concern.

John Walls Era
05-27-2011, 01:57 PM
Dallas in 5. Dirk has one bad game. Differential in points is huge and reminiscent of Spurs/Cavs series. If you think Miami's offense has any chance I'm sorry.....but the offense is super bad. That Chicago series was god aweful....except for D and Miami can't consistently gaurd Dallas' players. You can put LeBron on Rose....you can't put him on Dirk.

This one is funny. Diminishing the Bulls D?

Big Game Son
05-27-2011, 02:07 PM
This one is funny. Diminishing the Bulls D?

I said only the Defense for both teams was the only good thing that whole series. Exactly opposite of how you read it. lol! Chicago D was the only reason they had a slight chance as it was great and organized. Their offense though....very poor.

Kashmir13579
05-27-2011, 02:11 PM
Mavs in 7 :pray:

justinnum1
05-27-2011, 02:21 PM
Do save it! If I am wrong I'm willing to admit it.

However MAJOR differences in my strategic reasoning here than that other guys. Dallas has an elite offense and has been here before and lost. Also different players are capable of stepping up and hitting needed jumpers...unlike Chicago apparently. The Chicago surprise story finally ended. The level Dirk is playing on now is by far the best anyone has played in the playoffs. Also Kidd needs that ring and Dallas is playing defense to get it.

By context my argument is ENTIRELY different that guy's for Chicago. I knew that series was going to be a grind, but this one with Dallas except for one game won't be. Miami needs more pieces.

Lastly, expect someone like a JJ Barea kicking to Stojakovich to cause HUGE problems. Unfortunately Miami is going to have to waste massive energy with LeBron and Wade chasing the ball on D WAY too much. Dallas has insane 3's...Miami can't match that and it this is Spoelstra's main area of concern.

most experts would disagree with you.

ohreally
05-27-2011, 02:27 PM
I said it before, unless the Heat send Howard in to tackle Dirk a la Wade and Rondo I think Dallas takes this pretty easily, or Wade does it again to Kidd, I see Dallas taking this relatively easily.

Do the Heat's big two and three quarters play good defense? Yes. But how do they stop Dirk; I just don't see it. Dallas shares the ball nicely, Kidd is an excellent passer and pretty much unflappable, Marion has been playing well, Barea will still get to the hoop, and they can shoot the three pretty well.

Obviously, the Heat will try to deny the ball to Dirk, but basically I don't see anyone playing Dirk better than Collison did or even nearly as well. Dallas will not fall apart like Chicago did, and they won't have the late game breakdowns that the Rondo-less Celtics did.

Dallas's defense is underrated and the Heat have not faced an offense like the Mavs have. Yes, the Celtics in the first two games may have been close but offensively KG is far from Dirk and Dallas does have a bench.

Could be a quick series.

lakersfan211
05-27-2011, 02:32 PM
Who the Hell really want's to see another Mavs/Heat Finals except for their fans but Dallas in 5 .

lakerboy
05-27-2011, 03:10 PM
I want Mavs to win because I hate the Heat. But my smart money is on the Heat in 6.

Fmaranesi
05-27-2011, 03:28 PM
Dallas in 5. Dirk has one bad game. Differential in points is huge and reminiscent of Spurs/Cavs series. If you think Miami's offense has any chance I'm sorry.....but the offense is super bad. That Chicago series was god aweful....except for D and Miami can't consistently gaurd Dallas' players. You can put LeBron on Rose....you can't put him on Dirk.

How does Miami's offense not have a chance ? They averaged more points and had a higher field goal percentage than Dallas in the regular season, the only reason Dallas looks to have a better offense in the playoffs is because Miami has had to play against TWO of the top 3 Defenses in the entire league. While LA has a good defense, they clearly had inner troubles and Portland and OKC are about equal to the 76ers Defense.

justinnum1
05-27-2011, 03:36 PM
heat have a higher offensive efficiency and defensive efficiency than the mavs...

mdm692
05-27-2011, 03:41 PM
Dallas was supposed to lose to POR - DAL 4-2
Dallas was supposed to get embarrased by LA - DAL 4-0
No way dallas can handle durant and westbrook - DAL 4-1

Ima say heat in 6 just so dallas can prove us wrong again

Btw- heat were expected to at least get to the ecf dal wasnt even supposed to get outa the first rnd

Tmo440
05-27-2011, 03:56 PM
Going with the Mavs in 6. I think Dirk is going to continue his hot shooting, and I think the Mavs deep bench will come into play against the Heat. The Mavs are also much much bigger than the Heat, and they will have the advantage on the boards.

Stat&Meloallday
05-27-2011, 04:03 PM
Mavs in 7

Cromedome
05-27-2011, 04:06 PM
The Mavs need to win for the NBA to be saved. Lebron James and the Heat have ruined basketball as we know it.

ddhulett
05-27-2011, 04:11 PM
Mavs are bigger in the paint with Tyson and Heywood and are deeper than anyone the Heat played.

Miami might have 3 stars to Dallas 1 but it's 3 players vs 9

theheatles
05-27-2011, 04:19 PM
The Heat can be stopped with shooters

The teams they played missed 3's

You don't live or die by the 3...you just die

mikealike305
05-27-2011, 04:24 PM
Mavs are bigger in the paint with Tyson and Heywood and are deeper than anyone the Heat played.

Miami might have 3 stars to Dallas 1 but it's 3 players vs 9

thats funny cuz thats exactly what bull fans said after game 1

autechre
05-27-2011, 04:28 PM
Dirk and Lebron will cancel each other out offensively since they're both some of the most gifted offensive players in the NBA and in this playoffs thus far. On the defensive side, James is top 5 when he brings it, no question about it. Nowitzki, not so much.

So Offensively, marion ,terry and kidd will have to outperform bosh and wade
1. Marion's defense is overrated and tends to disappear against tougher defensive teams (I know what I'm talking about, I'm a suns fan and loved him as a small forward due to his excellent rebounding and speed) Although, he has done a better job at making an impact but you can't teach an old dog new tricks as they say.
2. Kidd is like a fine wine, he'll distribute the ball like only he and a select few of the best point guards in the league can. He'll make huge shots but won't score much.
3. Terry, although a great bench player and a fine scorer in his own right, will not be able to pull off shots against Miami's excellent (or perhaps tops in the league) perimeter defense. I expect 10-13 hard fought points from Terry on avg.
4. Chandler, good defensive player, excellent rebounder. Won't matter much, look at Joakim Noah as a reference point.
4. Dwayne Wade, one of the best players in the league, has excellent defense and can score at will; slicing through defenses like a knife through butter. This guy single handedly won a championship for Miami. And for those moronic fans that say the refs "handed them" that championship, I'll say this. Sure referees have an impact on a game but not enough to take a team through 4 series and to a finals mvp. That's a preposterous argument, illogical and therefore invalid. He will bounce back. Expect 20 pts/game at the least, and clutch defense.
5. Chris Bosh, soft as charming brand T.P., but finesse is a good change of pace from the strength and vigor of a player like Lebron. Decent rebounder, has a good jump shot. Had very little trouble against Carlos Boozer. Whoever defends him will have to expend much energy on the defensive side of the ball. 15-20 pts a game is not a reach for this guy.
6. Puerto Rican steve nash, JJ barea is a feisty little guy, great spark off the bench. Might be a huge factor for Dallas. This guy can play, and brings it every single game.
7. Haslem, the heart and soul of this heat team, is once again a big plus for them. Will rebound, do the dirty work, play his *** off basically.

Can't pick a winner. Dallas is big, has a great bench, and a top 25 player of all time in Dirk. They're offense is amazing but have beaten an old spurs team, a Lakers team with some serious chemistry issues, and a young but talented squad with average defense.
Miami beat average teams but they did defeat the best team in the league this year in the Bulls, who have a great team and killer defense. Youth was their achilles heel and I see Rose growing from this as long as he works on his game and the front office gets him a #2 guy. His field % was atrocious but you can't blame him, who else will score in that team?

It's a 50/50 flip of the coin. Both teams will need the stars aligned and all the luck in the world. Excellence on both sides of the ball with great coaching (something Miami lacks in Spoelstra, but make up with vast talent) will be needed. Should be the best finals in years!!!!!

Good luck to both teams and may the best team win, despite bad referee calls every once in a while.

WVNowitzki
05-27-2011, 04:42 PM
Who the Hell really want's to see another Mavs/Heat Finals except for their fans but Dallas in 5 .

Yea, cause we all wanna see the Lakers again. Shut up

JordansBulls
05-27-2011, 05:02 PM
thats funny cuz thats exactly what bull fans said after game 1

Problem is is that our frontcourt got outplayed single handedly by Bosh. If Bosh outplays Dirk, the Mavs can forget it.

ddhulett
05-27-2011, 05:20 PM
thats funny cuz thats exactly what bull fans said after game 1

Yeah but come on we all know outside of Rose and Boozer the Bulls really had no proven scorer.

Rose is their best scoring option with a horrible shooting % some say he's a chunker.
Dirk is #1 option that shoots over 50%
Terry, Marion, Kidd, Peja, Barea, all these guys can score
chandler is better than Noah, Heywood is got to be the best back up Center in the league,Miami tried to get him for a reason.
Stevenson and Kidd are good defenders along with Marion and Chandler

Mavs don't play just 1 on 1 like Miami they play great team defense and the ball is always moving on offense.
Both teams are opposites of each other and both styles work
Miami is more of an ISO team Dallas will move the ball to get the defender out of position.
Defense Miami is good straight up Dallas is good team defense.

Mavs have guys like Brewer, Mahinmi and Roddy on the bench who would easily be better than a lot of guys Miami play off the bench.

justinnum1
05-27-2011, 05:22 PM
Yeah but come on we all know outside of Rose and Boozer the Bulls really had no proven scorer.

Rose is their best scoring option with a horrible shooting % some say he's a chunker.
Dirk is #1 option that shoots over 50%
Terry, Marion, Kidd, Peja, Barea, all these guys can score
chandler is better than Noah, Heywood is got to be the best back up Center in the league,Miami tried to get him for a reason.
Stevenson and Kidd are good defenders along with Marion and Chandler

Mavs don't play just 1 on 1 like Miami they play great team defense and the ball is always moving on offense.
Both teams are opposites of each other and both styles work
Miami is more of an ISO team Dallas will move the ball to get the defender out of position.
Defense Miami is good straight up Dallas is good team defense.

Mavs have guys like Brewer and Roddy on the bench who would easily be better than a lot of guys Miami play off the bench.

And we know dallas' defense is nothing like the bulls.

Minimal
05-27-2011, 05:37 PM
The Heat can be stopped with shooters

The teams they played missed 3's
:facepalm:
Don't u think there is a reason why they missed those 3's?
Like 2 of the best perimeter defenders in the league or smth?

Bravo95
05-27-2011, 05:44 PM
So Offensively, marion ,terry and kidd will have to outperform bosh and wade

That's the bottom line.

lakersfan211
05-27-2011, 05:59 PM
Yea, cause we all wanna see the Lakers again. Shut up

Haha, Like to see ya make me .

koreancabbage
05-27-2011, 06:01 PM
Bosh will keep Dirk honest on the offensive end. Ibaka wasn't the greatest offensive player and Dirk just let him shoot jumpers all day long. Bosh will be (and he better be) aggressive as he will open most of the time cuz Dirk is gonna help with the double on Lebron.

lakersfan211
05-27-2011, 06:02 PM
but in all seriousness wouldv'e liked to seen a Lakers/Heat Finals so I'm a lil frustrated .

lakersfan211
05-27-2011, 06:03 PM
maybe next year .

Eagles4Lyfe
05-27-2011, 06:14 PM
Can't deny or stop the heat

IversonIsKrazy
05-27-2011, 07:53 PM
Depends if the Dallas supporting cast will play consistently well under the spot light. Miami will look to double/triple-team Dirk (like they did against Rose), if Dirk is single-covered, it will only be when Haslem is guarding him, they'll never let Bosh or Joel single cover Dirk.

I will be hoping for the Mavs to win it, though I believe the referees will let Heat take it with "superstar" calls....

BcEuAbRsS
05-27-2011, 07:59 PM
The Heat can be stopped with shooters

The teams they played missed 3's

This... Look at game 1 against the Bulls... Bulls hit 3's at a high percentage in that game and the Mavs do always...

Giants-49ers-Ws
05-27-2011, 08:22 PM
never thought i'd say this...go mavs

GoneGuru
05-27-2011, 08:23 PM
Theyre more referring to the 06 finals when the refs handed the title to the heat, unless they're bulls fans in which case they're just whining.


I'm talking about the constant focus on the God-awful officiating of 2006. It will be talked about, and the officiating will be microscopically analyzed based on the past

Thid is true, because honestly the mavericks DO NOT have a history of choking in the playoffs, if you even watch basketball at all you would know this.

.........o wait :facepalm:

Wade>You
05-27-2011, 08:29 PM
Dirk vs Miami in 2 games this season: 24ppg on 38% FG (or 48pts on 44 shots)

Miami does a good job of defending Dirk. Plus, they were without this guy: http://a0.twimg.com/profile_images/1370156708/UD.jpg

RaiderLakersA's
05-27-2011, 09:10 PM
Mavs-Heat reminds me of why football is my #1 sport. I'd watch the Super Bowl avidly, even if it featured the Buffalo Bills vs. the Carolina Panthers -- teams that I've no particular interest.

Mavs-Heat is going to be mind-numbing to watch. I don't like Mark Cuban, but I wouldn't mind seeing Dirk and Kidd get a ring.

I don't particularly care for the Heat either, but it would be nice to see the Heat Dancers. That's right, I said the best thing about Miami are the women!!! No offense to Wade, James, Bosh and crew, but watching them play for a title is about as exciting as watching someone cook instant oatmeal. Just add water and stir slowly. No drama, no suspense, just a foregone conclusion.

TylerSL
05-27-2011, 09:30 PM
I think this series will be EPIC. It could go either way. Dallas is sooooo damn hungry and ready for vengence after getting the title ripped out of their hands 5 years ago. However, Miami is just as hungry as Dallas. Lebron is beasting, Bosh has been cool, calm, and collect. Wade has came up in the clutch. IMO Heat win in 7. Dallas is soooo deep and hungry, but Wade/Lebron are the best players in the league, and the Heat are just as hungry

Game 1-Heat (OT)
Game 2-Heat
Game 3-Mavericks
Game 4-Heat
Game 5-Mavericks (OT)
Game 6-Mavericks
Game 7-Heat (OT)

This is how I think the series will go. It could go either way. I think 3 games will go into OT because this will be a dogfight. GO HEAT

RaidersLakers24
05-27-2011, 10:44 PM
Dallas in 6

We are toooooo hungry, Dirk will have a feast against Bosh

I can't believe I'm agreeing with you oh and don't forget Dallas shooting and barreas penetration will give the heat alot of problems

RaidersLakers24
05-27-2011, 11:14 PM
You have to be crazy not to pick Dallas... They have so many weapons who's gonna stop barreas penetration? Pejas and terry's shooting dirks awesomeness dirk has been the best player in these playoffs! Chandlers intensity and defense man o man Kidd passing ability marions hustle !

On the other end you have Marion guarding Lebron who did a great job on Durant so I expect Lebron to work really hard for his!
Kidd did an awesome job on Kobe(even though he fouled him late in game 1 and IMO that would've changed the series) so I expect him to guard wade just as effectively(especially now that wade is struggling) and last but not least Chandler on bosh bosh will have to get his from outside the paint because Chandler will murder him if he trys to take it inside! I don't see anyway Miami wins this series unless and I mean unless the game is 8 vs 5!! Hopefully not though refs better not determine this series!

Wade>You
05-27-2011, 11:44 PM
I can't believe I'm agreeing with you oh and don't forget Dallas shooting and barreas penetration will give the heat alot of problemsThe reason you can't believe it is because you are ignoring the facts. Do the knowledge.

jrm2054
05-27-2011, 11:55 PM
I got the Mavs especially if Wade is not 100%. I expect Dirk to just destroy Bosh.

theheatles
05-27-2011, 11:58 PM
great read...

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2011/insider/columns/story?columnist=hollinger_john&page=PERDiem-110527

theheatles
05-28-2011, 12:11 AM
american airlines are the real winners of this series

momoneyyyy
05-28-2011, 12:24 AM
Mavs boy this is our year!

12evolution 9
05-28-2011, 12:52 AM
You have to be crazy not to pick Dallas... They have so many weapons who's gonna stop barreas penetration? Pejas and terry's shooting dirks awesomeness dirk has been the best player in these playoffs! Chandlers intensity and defense man o man Kidd passing ability marions hustle !

On the other end you have Marion guarding Lebron who did a great job on Durant so I expect Lebron to work really hard for his!
Kidd did an awesome job on Kobe(even though he fouled him late in game 1 and IMO that would've changed the series) so I expect him to guard wade just as effectively(especially now that wade is struggling) and last but not least Chandler on bosh bosh will have to get his from outside the paint because Chandler will murder him if he trys to take it inside! I don't see anyway Miami wins this series unless and I mean unless the game is 8 vs 5!! Hopefully not though refs better not determine this series!

ROFL Barrera Penetrations ... ARE YOU KIDDING ME ...


what about ROSE penetrations? Rose > Barrera ... ill give credit to Barrera for his heart, but he is going to run into a wall ... he is going to mainly have to be effective shooting, but Chalmers will do his best to keep him checked...

Stevenson < Wade Lebron > Marion .... Bosh just needs to keep doing his thing, if he can match Dirk and get to the FT line alot more than we will be in great shape.

I think Miller, James, Wade, Bibby, Chalmers will close out in time to contest Dallas' three point shooters.


Dallas does not play nearly as good as defense as Chicago, even though ill credit Chandler for being a great defender.

Dallas ball movement is great, but so is the String Defense of Miami's.

Were quick and we usually clog up passing lanes, and i just dont see Dallas penetrators going by Wade, and James too often, plus they will only meet a wall of Miami Paint Defenders.


Miami in 5 games... you can quote me on that

12evolution 9
05-28-2011, 12:53 AM
american airlines are the real winners of this series

that's foreal...

John Walls Era
05-28-2011, 12:56 AM
I got the Mavs especially if Wade is not 100%. I expect Dirk to just destroy Bosh.

yea yea... just like how Brand, KG and Boozer were all suppose to. Its not like Dirk can do any better (can he??), only place left is down.

Bosh should be more than comfortable playing in his hometown.

RaidersLakers24
05-28-2011, 12:57 AM
ROFL Barrera Penetrations ... ARE YOU KIDDING ME ...


what about ROSE penetrations? Rose > Barrera ... ill give credit to Barrera for his heart, but he is going to run into a wall ... he is going to mainly have to be effective shooting, but Chalmers will do his best to keep him checked...

Stevenson < Wade Lebron > Marion .... Bosh just needs to keep doing his thing, if he can match Dirk and get to the FT line alot more than we will be in great shape.

I think Miller, James, Wade, Bibby, Chalmers will close out in time to contest Dallas' three point shooters.


Dallas does not play nearly as good as defense as Chicago, even though ill credit Chandler for being a great defender.

Dallas ball movement is great, but so is the String Defense of Miami's.

Were quick and we usually clog up passing lanes, and i just dont see Dallas penetrators going by Wade, and James too often, plus they will only meet a wall of Miami Paint Defenders.


Miami in 5 games... you can quote me on that

I definately will quote you on that... Btw your really underestimating barrea he couldn't be stopped by the blazers,lakers,or thunder don't till' me Miami will stop him?? Please get real stop being homers

John Walls Era
05-28-2011, 12:59 AM
I definately will quote you on that... Btw your really underestimating barrea he couldn't be stopped by the blazers,lakers,or thunder don't till' me Miami will stop him?? Please get real stop being homers

Did they or did they not stop Rose?

Ryan328
05-28-2011, 01:02 AM
Rooting for Dallas. And I actually think they'll win in six.

Heater4life
05-28-2011, 01:10 AM
Did they or did they not stop Rose?

They can stop Rose, keep Rondo out of the lane (game 1 and 2), but not JJ Barrea.

Ok.

kjoke
05-28-2011, 01:12 AM
I say heat in 5.

RaidersLakers24
05-28-2011, 01:20 AM
Did they or did they not stop Rose?

Don't be stupid now ok first of all Jj barrea is smaller and has a totally different game then those guys he's not better but he and his teammates know how to complement each other perfectly don't be dumb with me now quote me if you want BARREA WILL RUN CIRCLES ON THE MIAMI HEAT!

Lakers80's
05-28-2011, 01:24 AM
Mavs in 7 if Stern would allow this to happen...

shizzle09
05-28-2011, 01:30 AM
Freaking hate the 2-3-2 format. rather start on the road and try and steal one

gotoHcarolina52
05-28-2011, 01:46 AM
Freaking hate the 2-3-2 format. rather start on the road and try and steal one

I agree. I would rather have 2-2-1-1-1 or 1-1-1-1-1-1-1 or 3-3-1 than 2-3-2.

Iron24th
05-28-2011, 02:16 AM
Freaking hate the 2-3-2 format. rather start on the road and try and steal one

Agree,but if you take the first two,you're in a very good position to win the series,cause it's very hard to win three straights at home then.

DoJoTheSlasher
05-28-2011, 03:04 AM
yea yea... just like how Brand, KG and Boozer were all suppose to. Its not like Dirk can do any better (can he??), only place left is down.

Bosh should be more than comfortable playing in his hometown.

Comparing those 3 to Dirk????

Brand is pure garbage, KG is pretty much done and Boozer is so overrated.

Dirk is a top 5 player in the NBA today, he has been the best player in the playoffs, best offensive player in the game, future top 25-30 player in his prime, and the most unguardable player of all time possibly. Bosh doesn't come close to Dirk's talent yet you think it is pretty even? Fine DeShawn Stevenson and Dwyane Wade are even.

DoJoTheSlasher
05-28-2011, 03:10 AM
Chandler is a good player and clearly a valuable piece for the Mavs, but hes not near the level of a Chris Bosh. Defensively hes great, but teams don't need to double him.

In terms of impact on a team? Chandler is more valuable than Bosh.

John Walls Era
05-28-2011, 03:16 AM
Comparing those 3 to Dirk????

Brand is pure garbage, KG is pretty much done and Boozer is so overrated.

Dirk is a top 5 player in the NBA today, he has been the best player in the playoffs, best offensive player in the game, future top 25-30 player in his prime, and the most unguardable player of all time possibly. Bosh doesn't come close to Dirk's talent yet you think it is pretty even? Fine DeShawn Stevenson and Dwyane Wade are even.

I dont think I said they're even at all... not even once. What I implied was that Bosh isn't going to get murdered; i was using those 3 as an example of how everyone said they would destroy Bosh.

John Walls Era
05-28-2011, 03:16 AM
O yeah its that crappy 2-3-2 format. Heat better hope they don't lose a game at home.

DoJoTheSlasher
05-28-2011, 03:20 AM
I dont think I said they're even at all... not even once. What I implied was that Bosh isn't going to get murdered; i was using those 3 as an example of how everyone said they would destroy Bosh.

Dirk will average about 30 ppg this series. Bosh doesn't have a chance... Bosh will average about 16 or 17.

John Walls Era
05-28-2011, 03:34 AM
Dirk will average about 30 ppg this series. Bosh doesn't have a chance... Bosh will average about 16 or 17.

Bet? :D

Fly-Eagles-Fly
05-28-2011, 09:37 AM
Game 1. Dallas
Game 2. Miami
Game 3. Dallas
Game 4. Miami (OT)
Game 5. Dallas
Game 6. Miami
Game 7. Dallas

MVP. Jason Terry

gotoHcarolina52
05-29-2011, 12:27 AM
Game 1. Dallas
Game 2. Miami
Game 3. Dallas
Game 4. Miami (OT)
Game 5. Dallas
Game 6. Miami
Game 7. Dallas

MVP. Jason Terry

If Dallas wants to win this series, they're going to have to win 2 in Miami, as the HEAT are highly unlikely to drop 3 straight games.

And while I honestly don't think Dallas will win two in Miami, if they happen to do so, it'll likely occur as you have laid out above--wins in Game 1 and Game 7.

hugepatsfan
05-29-2011, 12:31 AM
I have MIA in 6, but I'm really pulling for DAL.

beasted86
05-29-2011, 12:34 AM
:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap: Can't wait till Dirk drops 50 on bosh just to watch bosh cry. But I still think heat got it and that hurts to say.

Sorry to burst your bubble... but the majority of this series, Bosh will not be defending Nowitzki. Joel Anthony & Haslem will be on him for most of the game.

valade16
05-29-2011, 12:35 AM
I would like to point out that this very thread was opened when both regional finals were at 3-1 some guy said the series weren't yet over I said they were, and the thread was closed. I was right.

But to the topic, I will be very interested to see all the LeBron haters eat massive amounts of crow if and when they win.

hugepatsfan
05-29-2011, 12:40 AM
This series does present a different challenge for MIA though. They haven't faced a scorer as good as Dirk. Rose puts up points, but it's easier to game plan for him that Dirk. DAL has knock down shooters around Dirk that will kill you if you double. I think they win in 6, as I said earlier, but there D is definately in for a bigger challenge than anything they've faced so far.

ryang
05-29-2011, 01:28 AM
same goes for dallas

ragee
05-29-2011, 01:54 AM
most experts would disagree with you.

These experts?

http://www.josheberley.com/2011/05/dallas-vs-los-angeles-series-overview/

ragee
05-29-2011, 02:02 AM
If Dallas wants to win this series, they're going to have to win 2 in Miami, as the HEAT are highly unlikely to drop 3 straight games.

And while I honestly don't think Dallas will win two in Miami, if they happen to do so, it'll likely occur as you have laid out above--wins in Game 1 and Game 7.

I have to disagree with you... All we need is to win game 1 and we can finish it at home... Yes, it is very unlikely for Miami to lose 3 straight but it was more unlikely for the defending champs to get swept... It still happened though...

I am not saying we are going to win this series... I would want to and believe me I really hate your team (the only guy I like on your team is Wade but I still want to beat his *** for what he did to us in 06) but I am not going to deny the strength of your team... This series could go either way but we don't need to win two games in Miami to win it all... We are capable of winning 3 games in a row...

theheatles
05-29-2011, 11:57 AM
Comparing those 3 to Dirk????

Brand is pure garbage, KG is pretty much done and Boozer is so overrated.

Dirk is a top 5 player in the NBA today, he has been the best player in the playoffs, best offensive player in the game, future top 25-30 player in his prime, and the most unguardable player of all time possibly. Bosh doesn't come close to Dirk's talent yet you think it is pretty even? Fine DeShawn Stevenson and Dwyane Wade are even.

damn, i didn't think dallas making the finals will make their fans completely delusional....

dirk is far far far far far far far far from the most unguardable player of all time, he's a big, slow, weak for his size, jump shooting german...the heat actually DO have 2 unguardable players and they can't be stopped by no1 but themselves....dirk has an UNBLOCKABLE jump shot and ppl tend to misconstrue that into saying he's unguardable, but he is far from unguardable...dirks will to win < lebrons will to win

...oh wow, stop being so ignorant...it's going to be much much more painful when your team loses if your ignorance continues...i been saying it to bulls fans all yr and they had it happen to them the hard way, don't set urself up for the same downfall...deshawn stevenson is a journeyman who is an avg defender and avg at best 3 pt shooter and your comparing him to a 7 time all star and finals mvp who now is in his prime and thats not close to comparable like bosh and dirk getting compared, which is a much much fairer comparison because at least bosh has 6 all star appearances...bosh has a more all around game then dirk...bosh is better than dirk in pretty much all aspects of the game of basketball except shooting/scoring...get ready for your rude awakening, son

Dash
05-29-2011, 12:05 PM
Dallas in 6

allSUAVE
05-29-2011, 12:26 PM
This thread is not who you want to win it's about who's going to win

HesterTrain
05-29-2011, 01:04 PM
Dallas in 5

SportsFanatic10
05-29-2011, 02:54 PM
damn i'm starting to worry about this series with the way dwade has been playing. i'm pretty sure he got hurt at the end of the boston series when he jumped into the stands after a rebound. he went from over 30 pts a game on 52% shooting in that series to 19pts on 40% against the bulls. the bulls defense is good but so is bostons and it couldn't of just been that...the guy is hurting. he missed the contact part of the heats last 2 practices but they keep insisting hes ok so i'm hoping thats the case. anyone of the big three not being healthy and they're in trouble with the mavs.

Dade County
05-29-2011, 03:03 PM
This sounds even better NOW!

part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZr2qOXQJ4w&feature=related

part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WEUhysymXw

allSUAVE
05-29-2011, 03:23 PM
This sounds even better NOW!

part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZr2qOXQJ4w&feature=related

part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WEUhysymXw

he need to shut his ugly *** up

Skippy15
05-29-2011, 03:29 PM
Mav's in 6. Their Bench is far superior and Dirk is gonna **** on Bosh

h2r09
05-29-2011, 03:31 PM
Mav's in 6. Their Bench is far superior and Dirk is gonna **** on Bosh

id really love to see how their bench is all that much better, not to mention how benches dont matter in the playoffs. while you guys can play your bench guys 20 minutes a game, the heat will be playing their big 3 like 40-44 minutes a game and we would still be at an advantage.

allSUAVE
05-29-2011, 03:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXVwYSzBF1o

why people hate lebron. he answers it all.

lebron have loyalty tatted on him what a joke

justinnum1
05-29-2011, 03:43 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if the heat rap this thing up in 5, but i picked them in 6, hoping i can see them win it all in miami.

theheatles
05-29-2011, 03:46 PM
when your 2nd, 3rd and 4th best scorers come off the bench your in great shape to win a championship....right?:rolleyes::shrug:

gbpackers12
05-29-2011, 03:57 PM
Hoping for Dallas in 4, but my guess is Heat in 6 or 7.

ne3xchamps
05-29-2011, 04:01 PM
My bold prediction as it has been the whole time, dallas in 5.

Young2Kinsler
05-29-2011, 04:05 PM
when your 2nd, 3rd and 4th best scorers come off the bench your in great shape to win a championship....right?:rolleyes::shrug:

Ask the last 3 teams we played...

marlinsfan24
05-29-2011, 04:08 PM
Ask the last 3 teams we played...

x2.

Nobody should be questioning the ability of these teams chances of winning a championship. They made it here for a reason.

gotoHcarolina52
05-29-2011, 04:09 PM
This sounds even better NOW!

part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZr2qOXQJ4w&feature=related

part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WEUhysymXw

And don't forget the new rant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd6C4to1vyM

Dade County
05-29-2011, 04:16 PM
And don't forget the new rant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd6C4to1vyM

I did not know...... hahaha :laugh:

Dade County
05-29-2011, 04:30 PM
he need to shut his ugly *** up

You did not find one thing funny?... come on man.

thats some good stuff right their...

Hoopsadvocate
05-29-2011, 04:36 PM
LMAO at dirk going off on bosh like he did that at all in the season. Like anyone has done anything to bosh in the playoffs? The guy holds his own against kg outplays boozer and doubted everysingle game and same with them he will not bow down to dirk.

justinnum1
05-29-2011, 04:39 PM
LMAO at dirk going off on bosh like he did that at all in the season. Like anyone has done anything to bosh in the playoffs? The guy holds his own against kg outplays boozer and doubted everysingle game and same with them he will not bow down to dirk.

Bosh played great also while being defended by noah most of the series and noah did a great job, also gibson is a good defender. Chandler will get into foul trouble agasint bosh. Cant wait to see mavs players bite for his pump fake.

Hoopsadvocate
05-29-2011, 04:39 PM
And don't forget the new rant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd6C4to1vyM

AMAZING!!! LOL we need to make one for all the psd haters... inc the obvious Bulls/Knicks/Laker Fans who spewed so much garbage this whole season and are now watching US!!!

todu82
05-29-2011, 04:50 PM
Dallas wins in 7.

naps
05-29-2011, 04:54 PM
DeShawn Stevenson and Dwyane Wade are even.

:speechless::speechless::speechless:

smith&wesson
05-29-2011, 05:02 PM
heat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!
dirk will never get a ring

I would be sad if this turns out to be true. kidd and dirk deserve a ring.

smith&wesson
05-29-2011, 05:03 PM
lets do match ups.

kidd >> bibby
wade >> terry
lebron >> marion
dirk >> bosh
chandler >> haslem

its going to be a great series.

amos1er
05-29-2011, 05:08 PM
Hopefully the refs (especially Bennett Salvatore) don't cheat for the Heat again like they did in 2006.

http://www.ericfolkerth.com/wheneftalks/files/archive-19.html

We all remember how Bennett Salvatore disgraced the game of basketball in game five by essentially handing the game to Wade and the Heat with a last second BS phantom foul call that put the Heat up by one with 2 seconds left.

http://82games.com/game5refs.htm

Then the refs did that BS to take away Dallas' last time out. Wade attempted 25 freethrows in that game alone...the same amount of freethrows that the entire Mavs team attempted. Wade averaged 16 freethrow attempts per game that series...he attempted 19 per game in the final four games of the series...all which were won by Miami BTW. Wade set a NBA finals record for most individual freethrow attempts that year. Hopefully Stern and his henchmen give Dallas a fair crack at it this time around. :facepalm:

Hoopsadvocate
05-29-2011, 05:08 PM
Comparing those 3 to Dirk????

Brand is pure garbage, KG is pretty much done and Boozer is so overrated.

Dirk is a top 5 player in the NBA today, he has been the best player in the playoffs, best offensive player in the game, future top 25-30 player in his prime, and the most unguardable player of all time possibly. Bosh doesn't come close to Dirk's talent yet you think it is pretty even? Fine DeShawn Stevenson and Dwyane Wade are even.

06' Haslem guarded him just fine to some of the worst shooting % in dirks post season career.

Bosh is avg close to 20 and 10 as a 3rd option dirks production is higher but not as far off as u claim and dirk is thier first option. Bosh is not far off as u claim him to be. And :facepalm: at ur last sentence

Hoopsadvocate
05-29-2011, 05:16 PM
lets do match ups.

kidd >> bibby
wade >> terry
lebron >> marion
dirk >> bosh
chandler >> haslem

its going to be a great series.

Lets look at the matchups throughout the playoffs for the heat...

Holiday >Bibby
Meeks <<<<Wade
Iggy <<<<<lebron
brand <<bosh
Hawes>Z

Rondo>>>bibby
Allen<wade
pierce < (and some said = LMAO) to Lebron
Kg (99% of psd said >> )bosh
JO/Shaq>big z

ROse>>>>>Bibby
bogans<<<wade
Deng<<<lebron
Boozer (o i remmeber so many said hes >> then bosh) Bosh
Noah>>> joel

Ladies and the gentlemen the point of this story is none of this matters because as u can see we pretty much have been disfavored in matchups in 2-3 of the positions almos every series including this one.

We dont play 1 on 1 defense though we switch people and throw different matchups at u and have amazing help defense.

Your 1 on 1 matchups mean nothing.

DoJoTheSlasher
05-29-2011, 05:23 PM
LMAO at dirk going off on bosh like he did that at all in the season. Like anyone has done anything to bosh in the playoffs? The guy holds his own against kg outplays boozer and doubted everysingle game and same with them he will not bow down to dirk.


Dirk is the best Power Forward in the game..... He is the most clutch player in the game... He is the best scorer in the game... Jesus Christ you act like Bosh is better than Dirk or even close. He's not...... Please give Dirk some ****ing respect...

Bosh didn't let KG and Boozer do anything to him? Dirk destroys both of them, they are garbage compared to Dirk. Stop overrating Bosh...