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towlsmoke420
05-26-2011, 11:52 AM
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Title explains all.

He is not the "Black Mamba" killah we all have known and loved for the past decade.

I believed he should have went out in a GLORY

JordansBulls
05-26-2011, 11:53 AM
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Title explains all.

He is not the "Black Mamba" killah we all have known and loved for the past decade.

I believed he should have went out in a GLORY

Why should he have? It's like asking if Shaq should have retired after 2006 when they won it all or Duncan after 2007.

kozelkid
05-26-2011, 11:57 AM
If there is one player who will find it impossible to leave the game, it's Kobe Bryant. The fact that he hasn't accepted yet that he is already declining and needs to take less shots, is an indicator of such. Bill Simmons said it best, he really is the kind of guy who will try to play past 40, even when he isn't capable of anymore.

towlsmoke420
05-26-2011, 11:58 AM
Why should he have? It's like asking if Shaq should have retired after 2006 when they won it all or Duncan after 2007.

Jordan did it... TWICE!

But yes I understand your point of view. But I feel like all he is going do is decline.

NYKnickFanatic
05-26-2011, 12:07 PM
:pity: Silly question!

macc
05-26-2011, 12:09 PM
Is this a serious question?

Baller1
05-26-2011, 12:09 PM
Of course not. I don't like the guy one bit, but why in the world would he retire? He's still a top force in the game, and probably will be for at least 2 more seasons.

Sadds The Gr8
05-26-2011, 12:17 PM
:facepalm:

PhillyFaninLA
05-26-2011, 12:17 PM
No he is still has a strong game, he's still at top 10 - 20 player in the league, so if he wants to play then he shouldn't retire. His place in NBA history is sealed and I think going on the that big moment is highly overrated.

If Kobe retired today in 10 years most people will remember the titles, the points, and the clutch shots he hit not losing to Mavs this year.

ManRam
05-26-2011, 12:19 PM
Why? He's changed his game up in order to lengthen his career. He's hungry for more championships and better all-time stats/legacy.

The Lakers can bounce back. Kobe was still a top 5 player this year. Why retire when that's the case?

This thread makes me confused.

DoubleDragon
05-26-2011, 12:22 PM
Why? He's changed his game up in order to lengthen his career. He's hungry for more championships and better all-time stats/legacy.

The Lakers can bounce back. Kobe was still a top 5 player this year. Why retire when that's the case?

This thread makes me confused.

EXACTLY. And has been through 3 injury plagued seasons.
Kobe retire? ...They wish.

SP17
05-26-2011, 12:22 PM
You made a thread to voice out your hate for kobe?

showtym24
05-26-2011, 12:23 PM
LMAO.Yea retire at 31 after winning back to back titles? Wow ive seen it all now.

magichatnumber9
05-26-2011, 12:26 PM
No he shouldn't have retired, but he probably should of taken less money from the Lakers. Now there handcuffed slightly in the financial department.

smith&wesson
05-26-2011, 12:27 PM
Kobe has alot left in him.. short and sweet.

Sly Guy
05-26-2011, 12:28 PM
inb4dalock!

haggis
05-26-2011, 12:28 PM
No, that would have been a bad idea.

Thanks for posting your thoughts!

yanks19791024
05-26-2011, 12:29 PM
This is why the NBA forum was voted the worse of all time

SP17
05-26-2011, 12:30 PM
No he shouldn't have retired, but he probably should of taken less money from the Lakers. Now there handcuffed slightly in the financial department.

hmmm...how can you say they are handcuffed? even if kobe resigned for half of what he have LA is already above salary cap and will have only the mle available.. I dont get your point..Buss will still spend the mle this year even with the salaries we have.

ddhulett
05-26-2011, 12:31 PM
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Title explains all.

He is not the "Black Mamba" killah we all have known and loved for the past decade.

I believed he should have went out in a GLORY

Towlsmoke420 I think you smoked too much!:facepalm:

Hawkeye15
05-26-2011, 12:33 PM
a top 5 player shouldn't retire

YankeeClipper5
05-26-2011, 12:37 PM
This will answer your question - http://youtu.be/lITBGjNEp08

Double_R
05-26-2011, 12:42 PM
I think you should retire from creating threads.

king4day
05-26-2011, 12:44 PM
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Title explains all.

He is not the "Black Mamba" killah we all have known and loved for the past decade.

I believed he should have went out in a GLORY

Pretend this year never happend. Why do you think he shoulda retired after last season? He was still playing really well and they were the favs going in by most everyone to 3peat.

Even looking at the season they just had, he still played really well despite starting to show kinks.

Avenged
05-26-2011, 12:47 PM
Because his decline is not as drastic as a lot are making it out to be. He is a top 5 player in the league, his team has a lot of talent & are contenders.. No reason to retire yet.

Squad13
05-26-2011, 12:49 PM
Clearly you're a hater, and a fool. Manram please close this

Hawkeye15
05-26-2011, 12:55 PM
stop with the insults at the OP. Look, of course it doesn't make sense for Kobe to have retired last season. The OP is simply asking, "Should Kobe have gone out on top"? Nothing more, nothing less.

Chill out and give a mature response or don't post in the thread. How difficult is this?

jimbobjarree
05-26-2011, 12:55 PM
As if Kobe would ever retire

RaiderLakersA's
05-26-2011, 12:57 PM
Kobe will go out on top. It just won't be when the OP thinks that it should be. Last year? Seriously???

The Lakers still have 2-3 years to contend legitimately. The window increases if the team adds another superstar to the roster, or if Bynum and Pau ever figure it out and become dominant players in their own right. Father Time will no doubt effect Kobe's game, but if he continues to give us similar production as this season, I don't see any reason why the Lakers can't add one more banner and send Kobe out in style.

Of course, we all know Kobe's love of the game. If the Lakers release him, he'll probably sign on with the Warriors or some other team in his subprime years. Or move to Europe and play there for the remaining years of his basketball career.

He'll be done when he's ready. Not when you think he's ready.

PS: And for those of you who are wondering what it will take for Kobe to leave against his will, look no further than his own words. When asked whether he was passing the torch, he flatly stated that they'd have to come take it from him.

He wasn't just talking about players outside the Lakers organization.

What Kobe is waiting for is the Lakers to have a player who will take Kobe's throne from him. The way that he was willing to take the mantle from Shaq. That's why he wants Pau to be more Black Swan. It's why when he sees Bynum starting to demand more attention, he both rebuffs the challenge, but also applauds Bynum for becoming more vocal and aggressive. "He's earning his stripes."

Until a better, more dominant player comes along to push Kobe out the door, he's not going anywhere.

Hawkeye15
05-26-2011, 12:59 PM
Kobe will go out on top. It just won't be when the OP thinks that it should be. Last year? Seriously???

For sure. There really isn't much, if anything, that Kobe can do now to hurt his legacy. He is cemented in the top 10 players of all time imo, and is still playing at a high enough level to lead a team to a championship with the right pieces, which I still think he has. No reason to retire yet.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
05-26-2011, 01:03 PM
Dear lord, NBA forum gets worse every minute:facepalm:

8kobe24
05-26-2011, 01:16 PM
^
Title explains all.

He is not the "Black Mamba" killah we all have known and loved for the past decade.

I believed he should have went out in a GLORY

I like the G.O.A.T.s on your sig.

J Dub8299
05-26-2011, 01:23 PM
^
Title explains all.

He is not the "Black Mamba" killah we all have known and loved for the past decade.

I believed he should have went out in a GLORY

This is a joke right? What is wrong with you? I'm not even a Kobe or Lakers fan and I see no point in him retiring...even with his decline he is still a top player in the NBA easily in the top 5 and probably closer to 2-3 range. Retire? LOL

nickdymez
05-26-2011, 01:23 PM
This is the dumbest thread ive seen on here so far

Tony_Starks
05-26-2011, 01:27 PM
Yeah he should leave. This past season he really embarrassed himself. Allstar MVP, 1st team all NBA, 1st all defense, still one of the top scorers in the league on a gimpy knee.....

I mean, its not like he'll come back next season totally healthy for whats sure to be a shortened season or anything.......

dayman
05-26-2011, 01:28 PM
Lol, cuz the lakers didnt 3peat he should retire?

ummm....okay

TheHighLife
05-26-2011, 01:39 PM
You're high.

Gibby23
05-26-2011, 01:40 PM
No he shouldn't have retired, but he probably should of taken less money from the Lakers. Now there handcuffed slightly in the financial department.

You think so, or are you just trying to sound smart? The lakers Payroll was at over 90 million this past year and will be over 90 million next year. Even if he played for free, it wouldn't have helped the Lakers in any way. Good try though.

ManRam
05-26-2011, 01:42 PM
Yeah he should leave. This past season he really embarrassed himself. Allstar MVP, 1st team all NBA, 1st all defense, still one of the top scorers in the league on a gimpy knee.....

I mean, its not like he'll come back next season totally healthy for whats sure to be a shortened season or anything.......

Like Gold Gloves, we should start to stop referencing 1st team all defense as an achievement ;)

He was great, a top 5 MVP candidate for sure...but he had no business being 1st team all defense ;)

Gibby23
05-26-2011, 01:44 PM
Like Gold Gloves, we should start to stop referencing 1st team all defense as an achievement ;)

He was great, a top 5 MVP candidate for sure...but he had no business being 1st team all defense ;)

That is like saying the Magic shouldn't have been in the Finals 2 years ago and the only reason they made it was because KG was hurt.

daleja424
05-26-2011, 01:47 PM
Yes, he has been done for years... Oh wait... Its not 2020... nevermind then....

Tony_Starks
05-26-2011, 01:50 PM
Like Gold Gloves, we should start to stop referencing 1st team all defense as an achievement ;)

He was great, a top 5 MVP candidate for sure...but he had no business being 1st team all defense ;)


Haha! Hey man we better brag on it as long as they're giving it to him. Remember we have to amass all these accomplishments for the "best to ever do it" argument when he retires! :D

Baller1
05-26-2011, 01:51 PM
That is like saying the Magic shouldn't have been in the Finals 2 years ago and the only reason they made it was because KG was hurt.

ManRam's claim and your claim have no correlation whatsoever.

Hawkeye15
05-26-2011, 01:54 PM
That is like saying the Magic shouldn't have been in the Finals 2 years ago and the only reason they made it was because KG was hurt.

thats not even remotely close to what ManRam said.

Gibby23
05-26-2011, 01:57 PM
thats not even remotely close to what ManRam said.

Same thing. 2 things that where the best defensive player/or best team didn't get the award/or to the finals. My opinion or his opinion don't matter.

Crackadalic
05-26-2011, 01:57 PM
I don't facepalm a lot even to stupid threads but....:facepalm:

Tanakid777
05-26-2011, 02:05 PM
You made a thread to voice out your hate for kobe?

This

nycsports2
05-26-2011, 02:09 PM
your on dope kid

pd1dish
05-26-2011, 02:12 PM
retire!?!?!!?

the guy was coming off of back-to-back championships trying to repeat the 3-peat, and he should have retired? hahahahahaha thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard. they guy is only 32 (which means he was 31 last year). Wade is 29....should he retire in 2 years?

obviously Kobe isnt what he used to be and injuries arent helping, but he still has a good 2-3 years left before he should even consider retiring.

Jaji
05-26-2011, 02:23 PM
:facepalm:

This.

jezzyman05
05-26-2011, 02:25 PM
:facepalm:

Im with ya on that one

Baller1
05-26-2011, 02:25 PM
Same thing. 2 things that where the best defensive player/or best team didn't get the award/or to the finals. My opinion or his opinion don't matter.

Those are insanely different situations.

The best defensive player can't force his team to win the championship. Kobe can force himself to play better defense individually (to the best of his ability, which still isn't 1st-team worthy).

Mile High Champ
05-26-2011, 02:26 PM
I don't see the logic behind this thread at all..

Hawkeye15
05-26-2011, 02:27 PM
Same thing. 2 things that where the best defensive player/or best team didn't get the award/or to the finals. My opinion or his opinion don't matter.

no, they are not that same thing at all. Kobe making 1st team all defense was a selected award. The Celtics not making the finals was an actual event that had to play itself out. They are not remotely the same.

IceMan360
05-26-2011, 02:27 PM
I don't see the logic behind this thread at all..

Me either ugh major :facepalm: for the OP

desertrat218
05-26-2011, 02:29 PM
If there is one player who will find it impossible to leave the game, it's Kobe Bryant. The fact that he hasn't accepted yet that he is already declining and needs to take less shots, is an indicator of such. Bill Simmons said it best, he really is the kind of guy who will try to play past 40, even when he isn't capable of anymore.

You really don't know basketball do you? Kobe takes all those shots because that's what Phil tells him to do. If Phil didn't like what Kobe was doing, he would bench him.

hugepatsfan
05-26-2011, 02:29 PM
I don't even know what to say to this...

dayman
05-26-2011, 02:31 PM
As I post this message, all I get from this thread is that 7.41% of the voters/posters are ********.

Bravo95
05-26-2011, 02:32 PM
No.

allSUAVE
05-26-2011, 02:36 PM
WTF? HE'S only 32 years old, 3 years older than wade. he ain't close to being done

Lake_Show2416
05-26-2011, 02:38 PM
This has to be 1 of the stupidest thread questions ive seen on PDS & thats saying a lot

Tony_Starks
05-26-2011, 03:04 PM
This has to be 1 of the stupidest thread questions ive seen on PDS & thats saying a lot



I don't know, "Are the Lakers Done?" and the numerous Rondo is better than Rose threads have to rank pretty high up there too.....

ManRam
05-26-2011, 03:10 PM
I apologize for my all-defense comment :laugh:

It's just a pet peeve of mine.

B'sCeltsPatsSox
05-26-2011, 03:19 PM
Why? He still has a few years left in him.

RaidersLakers24
05-26-2011, 03:47 PM
Those are insanely different situations.

The best defensive player can't force his team to win the championship. Kobe can force himself to play better defense individually (to the best of his ability, which still isn't 1st-team worthy).


I'm sorry but if Kobe played defense to the best of his abilities he would easily be the best guard defender out there... To bad he doesn't try hard anymore

Bruno
05-26-2011, 03:53 PM
No. @ 31? Reigning back-to-back Finals MVP?

Kobe had a better regular season this year than last year anyways; fourth in MVP voting an fifth in PER (ahead of Rose, Durant, Dirk, ect). Mamba will be back.

Allthatisports
05-26-2011, 03:54 PM
Any player averaging 25+ PPG should never retire, period.

DMasta718
05-26-2011, 03:58 PM
What is up with these crazy threads?

Hawkeye15
05-26-2011, 04:18 PM
I'm sorry but if Kobe played defense to the best of his abilities he would easily be the best guard defender out there... To bad he doesn't try hard anymore

too much mileage to go balls out all the time on both sides of the floor.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
05-26-2011, 04:24 PM
What is up with these crazy threads?

Are you in the NBA forum for the first time today?

Kobes a Killer
05-26-2011, 04:35 PM
...are you serious? 25ppg should he retire? No freaking way

Jewelz0376
05-26-2011, 04:37 PM
is this thread a joke??

Kobe is not the best player in the league ne more...but he's still one of the best players in the league...why would he retire?

Raph12
05-26-2011, 05:21 PM
Why would he? He's still a Top 7 (arguably Top 5: Lebron, Dwight, Wade, CP3, Durant & Dirk) player in the league, when he's dropped out of the Top 10 then he should start considering retirement.

TO Rapz
05-26-2011, 05:31 PM
:facepalm:

SportsFanatic10
05-26-2011, 05:34 PM
without even reading through this thread(sorry if its been said before) hell no. hes still a top 3-5 player in this league. no hes not better than lebron/howard/wade and maybe durant/dirk but hes still right up there. i know hes played alot of bball but at 32 thats too early to call it quits.

BluejaysFan08
05-26-2011, 05:40 PM
great thread

IDB Josh M
05-26-2011, 05:52 PM
Kobe Bryant lives and breaths basketball. He doesn't have another sport in his heart, and he doesn't know how to do anything else except play basketball.

kArSoN RyDaH
05-26-2011, 06:16 PM
I've seen it all. Kobe was still a top 5 force in the NBA this year. He's been injured for the past 3 years and he will finally have this summer to rest up and come back strong and BETTTER because he can work out.


Who's to say should he retire? Next year he will have better statistics and he will lead the Lakers to another finals victory!

ATX
05-26-2011, 06:52 PM
I admit I didn't read through this thread, so this has undoubtedly already been said...But of course not. He was going for a 3 peat with Phil Jackson still at the helm. Why on earth would he retire and not try for that 6th ring, tying him with the "Chosen one"? This aside from the fact that Kobe still has gas left in that tank. Just because he may not have the legs to be a top 3-5 player any longer, doesn't mean he should retire.

Kobes a Killer
05-26-2011, 08:39 PM
I've seen it all. Kobe was still a top 5 force in the NBA this year. He's been injured for the past 3 years and he will finally have this summer to rest up and come back strong and BETTTER because he can work out.


Who's to say should he retire? Next year he will have better statistics and he will lead the Lakers to another finals victory!

THIS!!!:clap: