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Davidgta1
05-25-2011, 03:43 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/news/story?id=6587752

TylerSL
05-25-2011, 03:48 AM
intersting. I would have hired their assistant coach. He knew the players and he system very well. I think his name was Shaw?

Davidgta1
05-25-2011, 04:01 AM
All He Has To Do Is Sign The Contract. http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-lakers-coach-20110525,0,6301668.story

LA_Raiders
05-25-2011, 04:02 AM
NO please No...

Jewelz0376
05-25-2011, 04:03 AM
There were some other coaches that I wanted more, but I'm fine with Brown...He's a defensive minded coach which is what I was hoping for...

At least this means the triangle is gone...which also means no more Dfish starting... :clap:

Fnom11
05-25-2011, 04:07 AM
Welcome to Limbo Laker fans.

Davidgta1
05-25-2011, 04:11 AM
Welcome to Limbo Laker fans.

Thanks Dude Lol

Switch
05-25-2011, 04:15 AM
Not the best guy for the job... but 2 back to back 60 win seasons... I'll take that.

Bruno
05-25-2011, 04:20 AM
I'm surprised. :shrug:

Saad
05-25-2011, 04:26 AM
This makes me sad. :| We're going to be like the Thunder.. terrific defense with terrible offensive execution. I hope we can retain shaw and he can be the head of our offensive sets :(

shep33
05-25-2011, 04:33 AM
This makes me sad. :| We're going to be like the Thunder.. terrific defense with terrible offensive execution. I hope we can retain shaw and he can be the head of our offensive sets :(

I disagree. I think the Triangle stays... lets be honest with ourselves, its up to Kobe, Pau, etc. to decide which offense they want.

AsiandudePH
05-25-2011, 04:43 AM
I disagree. I think the Triangle stays... lets be honest with ourselves, its up to Kobe, Pau, etc. to decide which offense they want.

You are correct, sir. The triagle stays with a bit of tweak, I think.


"We're not going to continue exclusively with the triangle," Buss said. "Certainly, there will be facets of the triangle incorporated into any modern offense."

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-lakers-coach-20110525,0,6301668.story

John Walls Era
05-25-2011, 05:36 AM
O I get it. Mike Brown is use to being a puppet.

CityofChaos
05-25-2011, 05:37 AM
Why do people hate the trianlge? Its THE most effective offensive system and championships stand behind this claim...

CityofChaos
05-25-2011, 05:37 AM
Why do people hate the triangle? Its THE most effective offensive system and championships stand behind this claim...

SP17
05-25-2011, 07:52 AM
Turrible choice..Lakers back to sucking again..

Raidaz4Life
05-25-2011, 08:16 AM
Why do people hate the triangle? Its THE most effective offensive system and championships stand behind this claim...

Primarily because it limits players potentials, is difficult to learn, and cannot effectively incorporate certain players.


Kobe would be a better player if he was not stuck running the triangle. Ron Artest would be a better player if he wasn't playing in the triangle. Derek Fisher wouldn't continue to be handicapping us if we weren't in the triangle.


People see championships and attribute it to the triangle but in reality the Timberwolves ran the triangle the past couple years and look how far that got them...


That's not to say it isn't a good offense... but when you have a roster as stacked as the Laker's there is much better. Kobe and Pau in a pick and roll offense would be twice as effective as the Triangle ever was.

Me and Mr. T
05-25-2011, 08:43 AM
Not the best guy for the job... but 2 back to back 60 win seasons... I'll take that.

What did he have to do with those 60 win seasons? My grandmother could have coached Lebron and won 60 games. It's not saying much.

Raidaz4Life
05-25-2011, 08:51 AM
What did he have to do with those 60 win seasons? My grandmother could have coached Lebron and won 60 games. It's not saying much.

Apparently Erik Spoelstra couldn't

dnewguy
05-25-2011, 08:53 AM
Why do people hate the triangle? Its THE most effective offensive system and championships stand behind this claim...

when you have the right players.

Me and Mr. T
05-25-2011, 08:58 AM
Apparently Erik Spoelstra couldn't

The East is a lot tougher now which is why he didn't win 60.

daleja424
05-25-2011, 09:07 AM
oh oh oh..is this a fill in the blank. YAY...I love these...

"And The New Coach Of The La Lakers Is.. "

...completely irrelevant for the next 5 months

FNM BOY
05-25-2011, 09:16 AM
Complete slap in the face to Brian Shaw...sad...but I dont care for the Lakers anyway :D

Epicfailure
05-25-2011, 09:44 AM
I have a hard time believing Kobe Bryant is going to take kindly to listening to Mike Brown. I didn't really hate him as a coach for the Cavs, but I wasn't thrilled about what he brought to the table either. He will bring a great defensive mindset to the Lakers, but I hope he was something in store on offense that will be more effective than the "let's give Lebron the ball and let him dribble down the shot clock and jack up a contested jumper" offense he implemented there.

There needs to be movement, a sense of urgency, and more creativity in his play calling. I think he has the tools to be a good coach, but it also could turn out to be a complete disaster.

durantchula
05-25-2011, 10:01 AM
is it just me or is phil jackson not 100% retired?

dicesiami
05-25-2011, 10:04 AM
Turrible choice..Lakers back to sucking again..

Its not that bad. The offense isn't going to run just through Lebron like it did in Cleveland.

Tha Truth
05-25-2011, 10:14 AM
I don't like the Lakers signing Mike Brown as head coach. What does his resume look like? Don't say Cavs, LeBron was the coach.

BigCityofDreams
05-25-2011, 10:24 AM
This should be interesting

METSFEVER
05-25-2011, 10:41 AM
Lakers need PG with Defense and Velocity. Fisher era finish....I like Brandon Jennings...Not Bad....score some point...I hope Lakers trade Gasol and Blake.

macc
05-25-2011, 11:05 AM
Primarily because it limits players potentials, is difficult to learn, and cannot effectively incorporate certain players.


Kobe would be a better player if he was not stuck running the triangle. Ron Artest would be a better player if he wasn't playing in the triangle. Derek Fisher wouldn't continue to be handicapping us if we weren't in the triangle.


People see championships and attribute it to the triangle but in reality the Timberwolves ran the triangle the past couple years and look how far that got them...


That's not to say it isn't a good offense... but when you have a roster as stacked as the Laker's there is much better. Kobe and Pau in a pick and roll offense would be twice as effective as the Triangle ever was.




I was thinking the same thing. I've never understood why the Lakers never ran the pick and roll with Kobe and Gasol. I think they could easily eat up defenses with it.

I think the Triangle offense limits Ron Artest the most. Artest is a great basketball player but he looks like he sucks because of the offense he's in. He just looks lost out there and has been limited to a spot up shooter. He's been going to waste ever since he got to LA.

WeBallin
05-25-2011, 11:08 AM
Why do people hate the trianlge? Its THE most effective offensive system and championships stand behind this claim...

Ummm i think the players have much more to do with that then the offense that is bein ran, lol Lets not kid ourselves Phils offense wouldn't get it done currently in detroit?lol An Boston has plenty of rings too, An i doubt they ran any Triangle offense there!!!

KnicksorBust
05-25-2011, 11:11 AM
At this point in Kobe's career I don't know if giving him a drastically different coach is the right move. This team is a back to back defending champs. I don't think they should be shaking things up. Brian Shaw would have been a better choice.

RaiderLakersA's
05-25-2011, 11:14 AM
If true, this will be interesting.

What the current playoffs tell you is that you don't need the greatest coach ever to go deep into the playoffs. Just look at the coaches that are currently vying for a title. How many championship rings between them?

This is probably one of the few team sports where the talent on the roster matters much, much more than who the coach is or the scheme.

The Lakers will bring back an experienced championship caliber core, but they have to tweak that roster and bring in a young superstar and -- no surprise once again -- a faster, more spirited point guard. No, they probably won't be able to do all of that in 2011-2012. But in 2 years minimum I expect the roster to be built to win it all again.

Duddy
05-25-2011, 11:25 AM
Mike Brown is one lucky bastard. He isn't great but still gets to coach some of the best teams in the league

AlexTmz2
05-25-2011, 11:26 AM
:drool:

CeeDub15
05-25-2011, 03:06 PM
I think this would be solid for LA, i like Brown though.

B'sCeltsPatsSox
05-25-2011, 03:09 PM
I'm guessing Lakers fans don't like this. I would hate this seeing who else was on the market.

210Don
05-25-2011, 03:12 PM
phil hasn't even officially retired... wtf

DROSE4MVP
05-25-2011, 03:15 PM
Should have promoted Brian Shaw, but that's just my opinion. Not the worst hire in the world, though. Mike Brown isn't a bad coach, a very good defensive-minded coach. Like in Cleveland, he's got a star to work with in Kobe (even though he's not as young as LeBron), and good supporting guys unlike Cleveland. Should be interesting to see how it all unfolds.

allSUAVE
05-25-2011, 03:24 PM
RT @Chris_Broussard Deal is done. Mike Brown and Lakers agree to 4-year, $18.25 million deal. Team option for 4th year. Brown gets $2.5 mil if option not taken Via Twitter

Cubsfan365
05-25-2011, 03:25 PM
Honestly, I think this is a horrible choice. I was never sold on Brown in Cleveland and I have no idea why the Lakers hired him now.

justinnum1
05-25-2011, 03:27 PM
Wow, speechless.

The Final Boss
05-25-2011, 03:31 PM
I can't stand looking at this booger with his mouth constantly ajar...

SNYmets86
05-25-2011, 03:32 PM
mike brown took lebron and the cavs far to the playoffs with trash players , now guys give him a break and see what he does with real talent on the floor

still1ballin
05-25-2011, 03:35 PM
:facepalm:

lakersrock
05-25-2011, 03:42 PM
Adelman has done much more with crap sometimes and if it hadn't been for the Lakers all those years, he might have a ring as well.

I'll trust the Buss family, but man, I wouldn't have done this.....at all. Especially at that price tag.

LTBaByyy
05-25-2011, 03:45 PM
Just saw it on ESPN breaking news

Bravo95
05-25-2011, 03:45 PM
Few people thought Doc Rivers was a great coach until he was given a few Hall of Famers and hired the right assistants. Brown made the Cavs into a very good defensive team with only one great player and not many good athletes on that team. I think he gets a bad rap. LA needs a few more blue collar defenders (and the veterans have to buy in) to make it work though.

Brian Shaw wouldn't have been a good fit imo. He may end up succeeding down the road, but the Lakers are the Rolls Royce of the league, #1 job in terms of expectations. Shaw needs to go somewhere that won't demand immediate success, like Monty Williams for New Orleans.

LTBaByyy
05-25-2011, 03:45 PM
Brian Shaw is prob pissed right now

Baller1
05-25-2011, 03:47 PM
Well at least the West won't have to worry about LA next year.

CeeDub15
05-25-2011, 03:47 PM
yup, heard this about 10 minutes ago lol.

jonahballow RT @daldridgetnt Breaking: Lakers reach an agreement in principle with Mike Brown. Story coming soon on NBA.com. 12 minutes ago

LTBaByyy
05-25-2011, 03:49 PM
4 years dang! I guess Phil really is retiring

Watch him be the Knicks or Heat coach next year or the year after

Chacarron
05-25-2011, 03:52 PM
The FO was obviously looking to improve defensively. I just hope we don't run his offense and continue with the triangle somehow.

Gibby23
05-25-2011, 03:52 PM
Well at least the West won't have to worry about LA next year.

I know you are trying your hardest to believe that.

clutchfan
05-25-2011, 03:56 PM
Did not expect this. :D

Hawkeye15
05-25-2011, 03:56 PM
I don't think Mike Brown is a very good coach, but that is my opinion

Gibby23
05-25-2011, 03:57 PM
I don't think Mike Brown is a very good coach, but that is my opinion

i don't think anyone does.

clutchfan
05-25-2011, 04:00 PM
My sig pic is EPIC. Just insert the #24.

Gibby23
05-25-2011, 04:03 PM
It looks like we are also getting Ettore Messina, he is one of the best coaches in europe. It looks like he will be incharge of the offense.

http://es.eurosport.yahoo.com/baloncesto/dobles-figuras/article/2371/

Slimsim
05-25-2011, 04:12 PM
shaw might coach the rockets

JNA17
05-25-2011, 04:13 PM
The only way i would like this move is if Mike Brown just focuses on defense. As for the offense as someone else said, just run a pick and roll offense with kobe and gasol and no more triangle please.

Jewelz0376
05-25-2011, 04:13 PM
I know I'm in the minority...but I actually like the hire...the Lakers needed a defensive minded coach and he's the best out there....

Everyone always talks about how Lebron carried those Cavs teams and give him all the credit but Brown should get some credit also...

Sure his offense wasn't great, but hopefully he'll have some good assistant coaches to help with that...

The Lakers needed a defensive coach and they got one....and besides its not like there were a ton of great options out there...I mean the only other choices were Adelman...and Shaw....

championships
05-25-2011, 04:14 PM
This is effed up!!!!!!! :pity:

Rentzias
05-25-2011, 04:17 PM
The FO was obviously looking to improve defensively. I just hope we don't run his offense and continue with the triangle somehow.
Lakers were 6th in the league defensively and still have premier players on their roster defensively.
For the age and makeup of this team, you guys needed a personnel manager-type coach more than anything, and I don't think Mike Brown is that person.

championships
05-25-2011, 04:18 PM
The radio shows I'm listening to is saying that Kobe isn't happy with the hire.

championships
05-25-2011, 04:20 PM
This is a Jim Buss move. Reports are Kupcake isn't even in town and had no input in this decision.

Purple&Gold24
05-25-2011, 04:25 PM
:sigh: I guess....we can always fire him, if he doesnt get the job.
I hope shaw stays

Purple&Gold24
05-25-2011, 04:26 PM
The radio shows I'm listening to is saying that Kobe isn't happy with the hire.

seriously?

clutchfan
05-25-2011, 04:27 PM
shaw might coach the rockets

:pray:

Jewelz0376
05-25-2011, 04:27 PM
The radio shows I'm listening to is saying that Kobe isn't happy with the hire.
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/news/story?id=6587752

Broussard says Kobe is all for the hire because of his D..and the way they beat the Lakers during the reg season...

GREATNESS ONE
05-25-2011, 04:32 PM
hmm this is going to be interesting. He is a good defensive minded coach and that's why I think he was brought in. I can see somehow the offense tweeked to input more of a pick and roll.

The Final Boss
05-25-2011, 04:43 PM
Bryant, Howard, Gasol, Paul, defense, Pick and Roll- I can live with that. Haters are gonna spit their two cents, though. You mad?

Raph12
05-25-2011, 04:44 PM
:pity:

Purple&Gold24
05-25-2011, 04:48 PM
What The Final Boss said is final.

AIMelo=KillaDUO
05-25-2011, 04:50 PM
Wow Mike Brown landed himself a nice spot.

championships
05-25-2011, 04:51 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/news/story?id=6587752

Broussard says Kobe is all for the hire because of his D..and the way they beat the Lakers during the reg season...

Every where else you look says Kobe is surprised by the decision(I would agree that doesn't mean he is unhappy). From what I have read, He really wanted and supported Shaw to be the coach.

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/25/report-kobe-bryant-%E2%80%9Csurprised%E2%80%9D-by-mike-brown-hiring/

http://www.datanews.info/mike-brown-kobe-bryant-%E2%80%9Csurprised%E2%80%9D-by-mike-brown-hiring-985.php

http://slumz.boxden.com/f16/kobe-bryant-surpised-hiring-mike-brown-1551488/

Master Mind
05-25-2011, 04:53 PM
I don't like this hire...

championships
05-25-2011, 04:54 PM
Bryant, Howard, Gasol, Paul, defense, Pick and Roll- I can live with that. Haters are gonna spit their two cents, though. You mad?


Yes!! Mike Brown is Garbage!

Baller1
05-25-2011, 05:00 PM
I know you are trying your hardest to believe that.

I firmly believe it.

JuS ViBe
05-25-2011, 05:07 PM
Big mistake...mike b is horrible when it come to offense but a genius on defense...I don't expect Kobe to have alot of respect for him. Lebron was able to run over this coach and I expect Kobe to do the same

Tony_Starks
05-25-2011, 05:07 PM
Im glad to see they got Brown. Definitely better than Adleman, who was next in line. Mike is a defense 1st guy that was groomed under Pop, so I have no problem with that.

He's a very underrated coach. Apparently all the wins in Cleveland were Lebrons and all the losses were his....

Anyway, welcome to the Lake Show Mike Brown! We're used to winning chips here don't F it up!!

JasonJohnHorn
05-25-2011, 05:11 PM
*In Darth Vader voice* NNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Tony_Starks
05-25-2011, 05:14 PM
*In Darth Vader voice* NNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!


Hey what are you doing foolin around with my woman Bria Myles!! :mad:

JasonJohnHorn
05-25-2011, 05:14 PM
I would have rather seen Brown as the assistant to Shaw. Or Adleman as head coach.

When i read that article when Mitch was like: We dont want to pay a lot for a coach. DUDE!!! YOU HAVE ONE OF THE HIGHEST SALARIES IN THE LEAGUE!!! YOU HAVE ONE OF THE MOST TALENTED ROSTERS IN THE LEAGUE!!!!!! YOU DO NOT BUY A FORMULA ONE RACE CAR AND THEN HIRE A ONE LEGGED QUADRAPOLIGIC SQUIRL WITH NO HANDS AND THE SNAILS EATING HIS BRAIN TO DRIVE IT!! YOU HIRE TONY FAWKING STEWARD!!!!! JESUS H CHRIST ON A CAWK!! WHAT THE FAWK ARE THESE MORONS THINKING!!!! FAAWWWK!!!!!

JasonJohnHorn
05-25-2011, 05:15 PM
Hey what are you doing foolin around with my woman Bria Myles!! :mad:

just admiring her from a distance. You are the one who gave me her name. I got a Bria Myles album on my Facebook ;-)

SeoulBeatz
05-25-2011, 05:18 PM
I think Mike Brown is one of the worst coaches in the NBA and I have no idea why the hell the Lakers FO did this!?

Adelman and Shaw seemed like much better fits and just fit the L.A scene better IMO.

Everytime I watched a cavs game and Mike Brown was in the huddle, he never said ANYTHING of meaning, you know why? Because Lebron was always the guy talking and Mike would be off to the side and say **** like "You tell em lebron" or literaly patting him on the back(I'm not joking, this happened ALL THE ****ING TIME). He was more of a cheerleader than coach if anything. Sure he had a good defensive system, but he is not a born leader, nor does he carry the natural qualities I would want in my coach. Lebron was more of a coach than Brown and anyone who watched cavs games could see that.

Me and my friends actually had inside jokes about how much Brown rode Lebron's dick and we NEVER expected him to be a head coach again. This hiring just baffles me.

I think the Lakers require a coach with discipline and almost dictatorship like qualities because they are such a proud franchise. Mike Brown is a joke of a coach.

Sorry laker fans, but you could have done A LOT better.

redsox0717
05-25-2011, 05:19 PM
This guy should be nothing more than an assistant.

Horrible hire.

heyman321
05-25-2011, 05:29 PM
Omg yes! Great hire!

This guarantees Kobe won't win anymore rings, I'm so happy.

heyman321
05-25-2011, 05:30 PM
Im glad to see they got Brown. Definitely better than Adleman, who was next in line. Mike is a defense 1st guy that was groomed under Pop, so I have no problem with that.

He's a very underrated coach. Apparently all the wins in Cleveland were Lebrons and all the losses were his....

Anyway, welcome to the Lake Show Mike Brown! We're used to winning chips here don't F it up!!

You honestly think Mike Brown is better than Adelman? I don't know whether to laugh or feel sorry for you.

Tony_Starks
05-25-2011, 05:35 PM
You honestly think Mike Brown is better than Adelman? I don't know whether to laugh or feel sorry for you.


Feel sorry for me. I like Coaches that preach D and get 66 wins? I like coaches whom the great Lebron James praises for making him the defender he is today? Coaches that have been to the finals?

But Im sure you'd rather have Adelman, he's been real successful over the years during his many travels........

heyman321
05-25-2011, 05:44 PM
Feel sorry for me. I like Coaches that preach D and get 66 wins? I like coaches whom the great Lebron James praises for making him the defender he is today? Coaches that have been to the finals?

But Im sure you'd rather have Adelman, he's been real successful over the years during his many travels........

LOL. I know you're trying to be sarcastic, but yes, Mike Brown only got 66 wins because of Lebron James. Any coach could have gotten that far with Lebron. And Lebron says Mike Brown helped him to become the defender because that's simply the right thing to say to the media. You think he would say "Mike Brown is the worst coach ever, probably the 2nd biggest reason why I left Cleveland next to having a crappy team'? Hell no. I hope you enjoy when Mike Brown doesn't know what call to play, or when he doesn't know how to make in game adjustments.

Also, Adelman is 8th all-time in coaching win percentage, I don't know why you think he's a nobody coach. He coached those great Kings teams in the early 2000s and coached depleted and injured Rockets teams to respectable records.Adelman has also been to the Finals twice, he's no scrub buddy.

Tony_Starks
05-25-2011, 05:49 PM
LOL. I know you're trying to be sarcastic, but yes, Mike Brown only got 66 wins because of Lebron James. Any coach could have gotten that far with Lebron. And Lebron says Mike Brown helped him to become the defender because that's simply the right thing to say to the media. You think he would say "Mike Brown is the worst coach ever, probably the 2nd biggest reason why I left Cleveland next to having a crappy team'? Hell no. I hope you enjoy when Mike Brown doesn't know what call to play, or when he doesn't know how to make in game adjustments.

Also, Adelman is 8th all-time in coaching win percentage, I don't know why you think he's a nobody coach. He coached those great Kings teams in the early 2000s and coached depleted and injured Rockets teams to respectable records.Adelman has also been to the Finals twice, he's no scrub buddy.

Wrong. Erick Spoeltra couldn't and he's got Wade and Bosh to go along with Lebron. You don't get 66 wins and coach of the year without being a good coach pal, if I have to tell you that you really don't know basketball. Phil had MJ, Shaq, and Kobe in their primes and doesn't get coach of the year.....

PrettyBoyJ
05-25-2011, 05:51 PM
Not the best guy for the job... but 2 back to back 60 win seasons... I'll take that.

That was more Lebron then Him..

heyman321
05-25-2011, 05:51 PM
Wrong. Erick Spoeltra couldn't and he's got Wade and Bosh to go along with Lebron. You don't get 66 wins and coach of the year without being a good coach pal, if I have to tell you that you really don't know basketball. Phil had MJ, Shaq, and Kobe in their primes and doesn't get coach of the year.....

You're also ignoring the fact that the East is way tougher this year than the last, and that this is the Heat team's first year together.

Edit: I forgot, to mention coach of the year is an overachieving team award. Do you think Sam Mitchell, Scott Brooks, and Mike D'Antoni were the best coaches in their respective years? Nope. Mike Brown sure as hell isn't anywhere close to one of the best coaches. But really, I don't care, I hope you're happy with the Mike Brown hiring for the Lakers, I know I am :)

Tony_Starks
05-25-2011, 05:58 PM
You're also ignoring the fact that the East is way tougher this year than the last, and that this is the Heat team's first year together.

Edit: I forgot, to mention coach of the year is an overachieving team award. Do you think Sam Mitchell, Scott Brooks, and Mike D'Antoni were the best coaches in their respective years? Nope.


Way tougher? Boston took a step back, Orlando took a step back, ATL is pretty much the same. The only legit team that got better is the Bulls. Thats a far cry from being "way better."

You're also overlooking the fact that Mike Brown was groomed under Popavich in San Antonio and already has a ring as an assistant. Nothing to scoff at.

As far as your assessment of coach of the year I'll just say myself and the rest of the NBA disagrees with you.....

Dankster
05-25-2011, 06:03 PM
Wow Mike Brown has had literally the best 2 NBA gigs given to him (well aside from Phil with Chi and LAL.) I could only imagine how well the interview went--He probably would've been around 4th on my list if I was Buss considering the other "potential" candidates were much more experienced coaches.

THE MTL
05-25-2011, 06:03 PM
Why do people hate the triangle? Its THE most effective offensive system and championships stand behind this claim...

No Kobe Bryant, Shaquille O'Neal, and Michael Jordan stand behind that championship claim. Those three players right there are arguably top 10 ALLTIME!

THE MTL
05-25-2011, 06:06 PM
Mike Brown plays, "Give the ball to kobe and let him create. Just find an open spot on the court if he passes to you" lol

CarniifeX
05-25-2011, 06:07 PM
Surprised by this. Could be a waste of a season for the vets to adjust to a entire new system.

nykobe24
05-25-2011, 06:10 PM
LOL heyman321 just got owned

DMasta718
05-25-2011, 06:15 PM
Why are people acting like Mike Brown will run the same offense he did with Lebron?

I'm not Brown's biggest fan but he does get too much heat here.

blahblahyoutoo
05-25-2011, 06:19 PM
LMAO mike brown.
he got outcoached by Doc so badly last year.

JWO35
05-25-2011, 06:29 PM
Mike Brown must give that good neck...

IversonIsKrazy
05-25-2011, 06:30 PM
Lol!

KDM1986
05-25-2011, 06:42 PM
LMAO mike brown.
he got outcoached by Doc so badly last year.

Doc outcoaches alot of people.

heyman321
05-25-2011, 06:47 PM
Way tougher? Boston took a step back, Orlando took a step back, ATL is pretty much the same. The only legit team that got better is the Bulls. Thats a far cry from being "way better."

You're also overlooking the fact that Mike Brown was groomed under Popavich in San Antonio and already has a ring as an assistant. Nothing to scoff at.

As far as your assessment of coach of the year I'll just say myself and the rest of the NBA disagrees with you.....

Yes it did get tougher. Boston didn't take a step back, they got better. Orlando only marginally. ATL the same. Miami improved significantly. So did Chicago. The fact that there wasn't as much as a disparity in record between the top teams means the east powerhouses were better. And how does Mike Brown being winning a ring as an assistant under the great Spurs teams and Pop make him a better head coach?

As far as my assessment of head coach, I'll just say myself and everyone else in the world besides the NBA media members that vote on these awards vote based on improvement and hype and not on actual deservingness. Remember when the all-NBA teams, all-defense were announced? Everyone here had a sh1tstorm on how bad the selections were.


LOL heyman321 just got owned

How exactly did I get owned? The thing that is LOL is that New York and Kobe are out of the playoffs.

ANKUSH
05-25-2011, 06:57 PM
Brown used variants of the triple threat offense in Cleveland. Pop uses some similar cuts in his offense. I don't think, with the talents the Lakers have, that they will have a problem putting the basket in the hoop. What I want, though, is a more free-flowing offense. A little more fast break would do wonders for our younger players. But, if history dictates, then the offense will be slow-your-roll pace with calculated moves that isn't too far off from the triangle. I want the 97-98 Lakers offense back (with the motivation of a lock down defense).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFM5KL5WwrI

championships
05-25-2011, 06:58 PM
Doc outcoaches alot of people.

This is true but shouldn't be the case when your a Lakers coach.

Gibby23
05-25-2011, 07:06 PM
Tim Grgurich from Dallas might be an assistant along with Ettore Messina the best head coach in europe and a good offensive mind.

http://twitter.com/#!/wojyahoonba

Mike Brown expected to make bid for well-regarded Dallas assistant Tim Grgurich to join Lakers staff, sources say. They're close friends.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=19913


On the heels of his agreement to join the Los Angeles Lakers staff as head coach (still unofficial, technically), Mike Brown may bring in Italian coach Ettore Messina as an assistant.

Messina is considered one of the top European coaches but he's been looking to break into the NBA for some time now.

Messina coached Virtus Bologna to two Euroleague titles (1998 & 2001, the latter with star Manu Ginobili). He also ran Benetton Treviso and CSKA Moscow (winner of Euroleague title in 2006 and 2008).

Most recently he was the head coach for Real Madrid.

Messina is a tough coach with a strong personality. He likes to call his team's plays and has a successful history developing players, especially in the post.

Sources say his goal is to be an NBA head coach but understands full well the road to that begins as an assistant.

jrm2054
05-25-2011, 07:17 PM
I dont like this hire at all

Bruno
05-25-2011, 07:28 PM
You're also ignoring the fact that the East is way tougher this year than the last, and that this is the Heat team's first year together.

There are no statistics to support that claim.

The EC combined to win 579 games during the 2010-2011 season.
The EC combined to win 594 games during the 2009-2010 season.

In 2009-2010 nine EC teams won 40 or more games.
In 2010-2011 seven EC team won 40 or more games.

All things considered the EC is about as tough as it was last season.

In LeBrons first year with Brown as the head coach of Cleveland (2005) the Cavs had eight returning players from the previous season, including LBJ. In LeBrons first year with Miami the Heat had seven returning players from the previous season, including Wade. Not sure how much I support your second comment either, but we'll know for sure this time next year.

http://www.nba.com/standings/team_record_comparison/conferenceNew_Stk_Cnf.html
http://www.nba.com/standings/2009/team_record_comparison/conferenceNew_Std_Cnf.html

Voodoo Alchemy
05-25-2011, 07:28 PM
3 words - wrong, wrong, wrong!

Raidaz4Life
05-25-2011, 07:36 PM
Tim Grgurich from Dallas might be an assistant along with Ettore Messina the best head coach in europe and a good offensive mind.

http://twitter.com/#!/wojyahoonba


http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=19913

holy crap I would be a huge fan of this signing if we got some quality assistants like that.

MickeyMgl
05-25-2011, 08:21 PM
Complete slap in the face to Brian Shaw...sad...but I dont care for the Lakers anyway :D

I agree. If I'm Brian Shaw I'm insulted by this. At least if they'd gone with a respected veteran coach.... but Mike Brown!!!?!

IBleedPurple
05-25-2011, 08:40 PM
I agree. If I'm Brian Shaw I'm insulted by this. At least if they'd gone with a respected veteran coach.... but Mike Brown!!!?!

Gotta agree here

JJ_JKidd
05-25-2011, 08:43 PM
I reiterate my earlier post that Kobe needs a coach he respects, he likes and the fact that he nominated Shaw but Brown instead got the job, im saying that its a disaster in the making. :facepalm: MIKE EFFEN BROWN!

DODGERS&LAKERS
05-25-2011, 08:51 PM
Yes it did get tougher. Boston didn't take a step back, they got better. Orlando only marginally. ATL the same. Miami improved significantly. So did Chicago. The fact that there wasn't as much as a disparity in record between the top teams means the east powerhouses were better. And how does Mike Brown being winning a ring as an assistant under the great Spurs teams and Pop make him a better head coach?

As far as my assessment of head coach, I'll just say myself and everyone else in the world besides the NBA media members that vote on these awards vote based on improvement and hype and not on actual deservingness. Remember when the all-NBA teams, all-defense were announced? Everyone here had a sh1tstorm on how bad the selections were.



How exactly did I get owned? The thing that is LOL is that New York and Kobe are out of the playoffs.


There are no statistics to support that claim.

The EC combined to win 579 games during the 2010-2011 season.
The EC combined to win 594 games during the 2009-2010 season.

In 2009-2010 nine EC teams won 40 or more games.
In 2010-2011 seven EC team won 40 or more games.

All things considered the EC is about as tough as it was last season.

In LeBrons first year with Brown as the head coach of Cleveland (2005) the Cavs had eight returning players from the previous season, including LBJ. In LeBrons first year with Miami the Heat had seven returning players from the previous season, including Wade. Not sure how much I support your second comment either, but we'll know for sure this time next year.

http://www.nba.com/standings/team_record_comparison/conferenceNew_Stk_Cnf.html
http://www.nba.com/standings/2009/team_record_comparison/conferenceNew_Std_Cnf.html

If there was any doubt about you gettin schooled heyman

BALLER R
05-25-2011, 08:52 PM
this same roster can't be next years roster with mike brown as coach

greek miami hea
05-25-2011, 08:53 PM
guys messina is a hell of a coach! i have a lot of respect for him.he is so good!and hey,im a european as my name suggests so i know what im tellin ya ;)

Punk
05-25-2011, 08:53 PM
This could be the scariest signing this year if they happen to get Dwight in this mix of defense and offense with these coaches.

shep33
05-25-2011, 09:04 PM
This could be the scariest signing this year if they happen to get Dwight in this mix of defense and offense with these coaches.

LA is a good defensvie team, not great though. But could you imagine if Dwight was there? Quite possibly one of the best defenses ever could be assembled.

shep33
05-25-2011, 09:07 PM
guys messina is a hell of a coach! i have a lot of respect for him.he is so good!and hey,im a european as my name suggests so i know what im tellin ya ;)

This. Supposedly Messina is one of the best coaches in Europe.

KingOf215
05-25-2011, 09:08 PM
How long before Kobe gets upset and Mike Brown gets thrown under the bus? The countdown starts now...

shep33
05-25-2011, 09:09 PM
You honestly think Mike Brown is better than Adelman? I don't know whether to laugh or feel sorry for you.

Adelman doesn't coach defense. There's a reason why he hasn't won a championship with some of the great teams he's coached.

AddiX
05-25-2011, 09:14 PM
I always felt bad for brown in cle, bron wouldn't listen to anything he said or tried to do. All bron wanted to do is get the ball in iso. Everyone blamed brown his team wasn't running more often, wasn't his fault thought.

BigCityofDreams
05-25-2011, 09:15 PM
Jim Buss strikes again.

championships
05-25-2011, 09:18 PM
^The Jim Buss era begins.

RaiderLakersA's
05-25-2011, 09:19 PM
What I wonder is who will Mike Brown bring with him. Every coach likes to add "their guys" to a roster. I'm told that players like Tony Parker deeply respect Brown. Not sure how true that is.

Either way, this was an unexpected move. Gotta love those Lakers. We're known for them. Let's hope that we follow this up by tweaking the roster with a second tier superstar or two that no one expects.

BigCityofDreams
05-25-2011, 09:20 PM
If he's right no one will remember the backlash but if he's wrong the fans will want his head on a platter.

championships
05-25-2011, 09:21 PM
What concerns me about him is his poor decisions and being out coached in the playoffs. I hope his assistant coaches are really good and don't allow these things to happen.

blastmasta26
05-25-2011, 09:40 PM
What concerns me about him is his poor decisions and being out coached in the playoffs. I hope his assistant coaches are really good and don't allow these things to happen.
Yeah, in game adjustments don't exist for Mike Brown.

Crackadalic
05-25-2011, 09:41 PM
Im a little meh on the hiring but at least Brown has a better talented team. If he is as good as he is on a defensive standpoint theirs no reason why they shouldnt be the number 1 defensive team across the board next season

Sly Guy
05-25-2011, 10:21 PM
wow. I would have thought the Lakers could do better. I've never been a fan of Mike Brown.

RapOZo
05-25-2011, 11:09 PM
brown defense, no triangle offense, brian shaw... blah blah blah
the question that really matters is, Are they gonna' let him use the tall chair phil used to have, or not? :confused:

lakersfan211
05-25-2011, 11:14 PM
What a big letdown

20R8ersfaN08
05-26-2011, 12:03 AM
i dont know how to feel about this yet...still kinda lost, wish Shaw wouldve been promoted

Tony_Starks
05-26-2011, 01:16 AM
i dont know how to feel about this yet...still kinda lost, wish Shaw wouldve been promoted


They were afraid Shaw wouldn't be able to demand respect because he has been so close to the players. Plus I think they want to go in a whole different direction and Shaw would've just been an extension of Phil. Brown was the right way to go, defense is going to be the key.

Also from being around the Robinson/Duncan teams Im sure he can work something more efficient out with Bynum and Gasol.

Big Game Son
05-26-2011, 01:23 AM
Do you smell what failure is cooking?

SP17
05-26-2011, 01:25 AM
lets give this guy a try and see how he performs.

HT9Canada
05-26-2011, 01:42 AM
Mike Brown is a better coach then everyone on this forum.. i think.

Big Game Son
05-26-2011, 01:46 AM
Mike Brown is a better coach then everyone on this forum.. i think.

I'm willing to agree with that but your reference point is far below the team's required performance level. Think he'd outcoach Adelman...u doubting yet?

Napalm
05-26-2011, 02:02 AM
rumors already out that kobe has no comment on the hire and is totally shocked. looks like the buss family doesnt run anything by kobe, how long until he demands a trade or calls for the firing of brown?

SportsAndrew25
05-26-2011, 03:15 AM
Great signing by the Lakers. Brown is a winning head coach and will continue the Lakers tradition of contending for a title.

LakersIn5
05-26-2011, 04:06 AM
LOL at the haters. mike brown was the coach of the cavs team that won 60+ games in 4 different seasons. and as if the lakers will be determined by their coach next season. hell even if they hire miley cyrus as their coach they will still be just as good. REDEMPTION TIME FOR THE LAKERS!

sharqstealth
05-26-2011, 04:28 AM
Not the best guy for the job... but 2 back to back 60 win seasons... I'll take that.

That back 2 back 60 win seasons is more because of Lebron and not Mike Brown. I bet if Phil got to coach that Cavs team, Bron might have already won a championship.

UnWantedTheory
05-26-2011, 04:37 AM
Why do people hate the trianlge? Its THE most effective offensive system and championships stand behind this claim...

So do some of the greatest players to ever play....

UnWantedTheory
05-26-2011, 04:39 AM
Shaw should have been promoted, but Brown is a very good young(41) defensive minded coach. The Lakers could have done much worse.

BigCityofDreams
05-26-2011, 09:26 AM
rumors already out that kobe has no comment on the hire and is totally shocked. looks like the buss family doesnt run anything by kobe, how long until he demands a trade or calls for the firing of brown?

When they start getting bounced in the playoffs

jp611
05-26-2011, 09:36 AM
I think this is a good signing personally... Mike Brown is no slouch, defensive minded coach

mikealike305
05-26-2011, 09:40 AM
Idk how i feel about this. getting rid of the triangle offense this late in kobes career?
also, didnt lebron make brown a good coach?
and didnt lebron pretty much own brown and lebron did whatever he wanted?
idk if this was the right fit of kobe and the lakers
but i guess we'll see

RaiderLakersA's
05-26-2011, 12:54 PM
also, didnt lebron make brown a good coach?

Guys, we have to stop with this line of thinking. Didn't Jordan, Pippen, Kobe and Shaq make PJ a good coach? Didn't Magic, Kareem and Worthy make Riley a good coach? Didn't Stockton and Malone make Sloan a good coach? We could go on and on and on.

LeBron and Brown both share credit for success and failures of the Cavs, as does the owner, the players, assistant coaces, etc. Let's stop with the unbalanced assessment of Brown's tenure in Cleveland.

mikealike305
05-26-2011, 02:20 PM
Guys, we have to stop with this line of thinking. Didn't Jordan, Pippen, Kobe and Shaq make PJ a good coach? Didn't Magic, Kareem and Worthy make Riley a good coach? Didn't Stockton and Malone make Sloan a good coach? We could go on and on and on.

LeBron and Brown both share credit for success and failures of the Cavs, as does the owner, the players, assistant coaces, etc. Let's stop with the unbalanced assessment of Brown's tenure in Cleveland.

are u comparing brown to guys like PJ, riley, and sloan?

look, there are some cases where the coach, and great player, work together and make eachother better (all the examples u spoke about)

then there are cases where, although the coach deserves some credit, its mostly the player, and thats what we had in Cleveland, imo.
not that he is a bad coach, just dont think u can compare him to jackson and riley

hugepatsfan
05-26-2011, 02:24 PM
I like this hire. I think LA will be much more disciplined next season won't "coast" as much.

Bravo95
05-26-2011, 02:26 PM
Guys, we have to stop with this line of thinking. Didn't Jordan, Pippen, Kobe and Shaq make PJ a good coach? Didn't Magic, Kareem and Worthy make Riley a good coach? Didn't Stockton and Malone make Sloan a good coach? We could go on and on and on.

LeBron and Brown both share credit for success and failures of the Cavs, as does the owner, the players, assistant coaces, etc. Let's stop with the unbalanced assessment of Brown's tenure in Cleveland.

I agree. They had the greatest coach of all-time on the sidelines and still bowed out in the second round. The bottom line is no matter who they hired, the biggest need is still improving the bench. The core isn't getting any younger, so Kupchak and Buss need to get serious about adding real depth this offseason.

Tony_Starks
05-26-2011, 02:56 PM
I like this hire. I think LA will be much more disciplined next season won't "coast" as much.



Thats the bottom line right there. A team is the extension of the coach. As good as Phil was he had a laid back, if we win we win, if we lose oh well attitude. Especially during the regular season. And if you watched the Lakers it showed. Whenever they lost it was pretty much "big deal, we'll win when it counts." Even us Laker fans bought into it, because they've been getting away with it so long.

This year proved that they actually have to get back to hard work. I think Brown will be a good fit for that.

KnickFanSince91
05-26-2011, 03:36 PM
This tells me that the Lakers have no intentions of going into a rebuilding mode. If they wanted to go that route, they probably would've lived with the growing pains of a rookie head coach in Shaw but it looks like they wanted a guy with the best shot to get the team they have now back to the finals. Adelman must've been a terrible interviewer.

Ripper Gein
05-26-2011, 05:41 PM
Turrible choice..Lakers back to sucking again..

Its the LAKERS they NEVER suck;)

todu82
05-26-2011, 07:55 PM
Bad move by the Lakers. Thought they'd hire Adelman or Shaw.

Atownballa5
05-26-2011, 07:59 PM
eh, not a big fan of brown. always seemed useless and lebron ran the team. not sure what he was like before lebron as a coach

Gators123
05-28-2011, 11:03 AM
lol Apparently Mike Brown might hire John Kuester when Dumars fires him. wow.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/la-sp-lakers-assistants-20110528,0,2040850.story

Another coach Brown is interested in having on his Lakers staff is Detroit Pistons Coach John Kuester, two executives with NBA teams said.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
05-28-2011, 01:16 PM
lol Apparently Mike Brown might hire John Kuester when Dumars fires him. wow.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/la-sp-lakers-assistants-20110528,0,2040850.story

Kuester is terrible:cry: