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NYSpirit1
05-25-2011, 01:54 AM
Arguably six of the top 15 players in the NBA in the same series. 5 of them started in the All-Star game this past year. In 2010, they were on six different teams. Now they'd be on 2.

LeBron and Wade are all better than any of the Knicks would be-Big 3. They're probably two of the top three or four players. But Paul, Amare and Melo are all in the 6-10 range and the drop-off to Bosh around 15 would allow the talent level to equal out.

A perennial offensive team (Knicks) vs. a defensive force (Heat) combined the history of Knicks-Heat and the epic nature of what LeBron did by teaming up last summer to lead to Chris Paul's toast and the Knicks teaming up.

Could it have greatest series of all-time potential? Maybe not beat Jordan's playoff series or some of the Celtics-Lakers battles of the 80s, but still it has major potential.

Maybe next year?

ChitownBears22
05-25-2011, 01:56 AM
When did Amare become top 10-15?

5ass
05-25-2011, 02:00 AM
yes

Sadds The Gr8
05-25-2011, 02:02 AM
The Raptors would beat the Heat in a 7 game series.

Knicks21
05-25-2011, 02:04 AM
The Raptors would beat the Heat in a 7 game series.

this.

allSUAVE
05-25-2011, 02:06 AM
Could you Imagine the Ratings :drool:

ChitownBears22
05-25-2011, 02:06 AM
Amare/ Melo play no defense. Paul will be the only decent defensive player on the team. I would still take Miami in quick series with those players.

MelkyNYY
05-25-2011, 02:09 AM
The Knicks suck, their season is over. Holy **** Knick fans give it a rest you aren't getting CP3. Quote me on that.

allSUAVE
05-25-2011, 02:10 AM
Amare/ Melo play no defense. Paul will be the only decent defensive player on the team. I would still take Miami in quick series with those players.

I wouldnt say that, but i love the doubters

IT made Dirk what he is today...NOW BE GONE !!!! :cool:

meloman1592
05-25-2011, 02:13 AM
the knicks suck, their season is over. Holy **** knick fans give it a rest you aren't getting cp3. Quote me on that.

h a t e r

ChitownBears22
05-25-2011, 02:13 AM
I wouldnt say that, but i love the doubters

IT made Dirk what he is today...NOW BE GONE !!!! :cool:

Dirk is a real threat. Always has been. Amare is not what he used to be. He refuses to play defense. Paul would be an upgrade of Billups but not by enough to get by Miami. I mean Boston rolled through them like it was no big deal.

MelkyNYY
05-25-2011, 02:15 AM
h a t e r

Premature ejaculation is never never celebrated. The Knicks have a history of premature ejaculation: ex (James, Lebron).

Cut the CP3 **** out until it's actually a possibility.

allSUAVE
05-25-2011, 02:16 AM
Dirk is a real threat. Always has been. Amare is not what he used to be. He refuses to play defense. Paul would be an upgrade of Billups but not by enough to get by Miami. I mean Boston rolled through them like it was no big deal.

Billups got injured 3 quarters into the series, come on now. Amare also!

and as far as Amare not being what he use to, LOL im going to pretend i didnt just read that. :rolleyes:

Raph12
05-25-2011, 02:19 AM
It could, if the Knicks get the right role players... The Heat are really deep as well.

allSUAVE
05-25-2011, 02:25 AM
BOTTOM LINE: Is

The knicks is the only team in the East that's going to have a chance at beating the Heat for years to come.

So Donnie better get this right!!

MelanconMadness
05-25-2011, 02:26 AM
Dirk is a real threat. Always has been. Amare is not what he used to be. He refuses to play defense. Paul would be an upgrade of Billups but not by enough to get by Miami. I mean Boston rolled through them like it was no big deal.

Boston "rolled" through us with a blatent, and later admitted to, non illegal screening call on Garnett in Game 1. So there goes the sweep. Whose to say the Game 1 win wouldnt have changed the momentum in game 2, in which the Knicks were up by 3 entering the 4th. Even if it didnt impact game 2, a 1-1 series going back to NY is ALOT different than down 2-0

Oh and Billups, Amare missing didnt help either.

So the Celtics "rolled" through Melo, and sidekicks, with help from the refs


Premature ejaculation is never never celebrated. The Knicks have a history of premature ejaculation: ex (James, Lebron).

Cut the CP3 **** out until it's actually a possibility.

Wait, so premature ejaculation is always celebrated?

And it is a possibility, hence the discussion, and the speech at Melos wedding. Does it mean it will happen? Well we all know how James going to the Knicks ended up. But its still a possibility

Meloman
05-25-2011, 02:27 AM
As I've said before, two stars is enough. If the Knicks were able to get a really good supporting cast instead of a third star, they could compete with Miami. My dream scenario? Get Kenneth Faried in the draft this year, have Marc Gasol sign a one year tender then hit free agency, use a good chunk of our cap space on him, then convince Steve Nash to come for less money for a shot at a title. I think if we got one or two more guys after that, a team of Nash-Landry-Melo-Amare-Gasol with Toney-Faried-player X-Player Y could compete with Miami. Obviously this isn't a very likely option, but I'd love it. My point is, there are other ways for the Knicks to get to the top besides CP3, and I hope they explore them.

da1nonlydre16
05-25-2011, 02:30 AM
Cut the CP3 **** out until it's actually a possibility.


this.

stlbest5in2013
05-25-2011, 02:37 AM
7 fans (likely knick fans) say yes.

the answer is NO

it takes defense, and other then cp3 this fake big 3 of NY does not play defense. that will never happen thanks to the owners either getting. A a 45 million cap, or all their no exceptions rule put into place.

allSUAVE
05-25-2011, 02:52 AM
Lol Ok so I guess this stlbest5in2013 kid opinion means more than Knick fans because they believe in there team.....you kno.

I remember Dirk plays no defense
I remember blazers would knock off the chokers ( Mavs) in 5 games

So PSD IS pretty on point with there stuff...you guys are experts man YEAAA LOL.

:laugh:

TheHighLife
05-25-2011, 03:09 AM
These "superteams" are getting annoying.

Jewelz0376
05-25-2011, 03:13 AM
Knicks would be better off with D12 then they would Cp3...Until Amare and Melo start playing some defense they have no chance against Mia and cp3 isn't going to help them play D

naps
05-25-2011, 03:49 AM
How on earth Amare is in the 6-10 range but Bosh is top 15? Bosh is HANDS DOWN better than Amare and Bosh himself is not even a top 10.

On topic, I don't think it would be the greatest but it would be very entertaining. Knicks big three wouldn't stand a chance against Miami big three because there is something called defense. Amare and Melo don't know what defense is.

TylerSL
05-25-2011, 03:55 AM
not hating or anything but I would have Miami in 6. Look, its your coach. As long as D'Antoni is coach the Knicks are going nowhere. He doesnt coach defense and you can stack a roster full of great players, but if you dont play defense you wont win. However, assuming the Knicks had a coach who knew the word defense it would be a very fun series. CP3 and Wade would guard one another. That would be interesting. Lebron and Melo would trade bucket for bucket and Bosh and Amare would both get their buckets off open shots, or pick and roll. CP3+Amare+Pick and Roll=SCARY Lebron/Wade+Bosh+Pick and Roll=SCARY. IMO that series would easily go 7.

Ebbs
05-25-2011, 04:00 AM
Miami would win. Paul is unreal but Amare is one dimensional. Melo isn't on James level either.

Ebbs
05-25-2011, 04:02 AM
Lol since it's 2 am and the thread is already theoretical knicks should:

trade Amare, Fields, and a pick for Dwight, than sign CP3. Than they may actually have a chance lol

BkOriginalOne
05-25-2011, 04:15 AM
No. Look at the Lakers Celtics 3 years ago, that's tons of greatness on one team.
If they god Howard, THEN it would be an epic battle.

RaiderLakersA's
05-25-2011, 10:50 AM
Ever???? Probably not.

mttwlsn16
05-25-2011, 11:02 AM
amare/ melo play no defense. Paul will be the only decent defensive player on the team. I would still take miami in quick series with those players.

+1

BigCityofDreams
05-25-2011, 11:11 AM
These "superteams" are getting annoying.

But look how much talk it generates.

BigCityofDreams
05-25-2011, 11:15 AM
not hating or anything but I would have Miami in 6. Look, its your coach. As long as D'Antoni is coach the Knicks are going nowhere. He doesnt coach defense and you can stack a roster full of great players, but if you dont play defense you wont win. However, assuming the Knicks had a coach who knew the word defense it would be a very fun series. CP3 and Wade would guard one another. That would be interesting. Lebron and Melo would trade bucket for bucket and Bosh and Amare would both get their buckets off open shots, or pick and roll. CP3+Amare+Pick and Roll=SCARY Lebron/Wade+Bosh+Pick and Roll=SCARY. IMO that series would easily go 7.

Yea the Knicks have to change the coach to improve the defense.

Double_R
05-25-2011, 11:26 AM
PSD thrives on make believe.

dnewguy
05-25-2011, 11:28 AM
NAH, Rose, Durrant and Howard will be a better competition.

AIMelo=KillaDUO
05-25-2011, 11:38 AM
Dirk is a real threat. Always has been. Amare is not what he used to be. He refuses to play defense. Paul would be an upgrade of Billups but not by enough to get by Miami. I mean Boston rolled through them like it was no big deal.

Amar'e had one of his best seasons this year...

PhillyFaninLA
05-25-2011, 11:40 AM
The Suns teams that Amare couldn't win with would be better then a Amare, Melo, CP3 team.

There is a reason the Suns didn't win a title and its not Steve Nash. I don't like CP3 with the Knicks. Amare and Melo are huge stat guys that are selfish players and don't make others better. CP3 is made of glass and I don't see him leading a team that needs to be gritty to win titles, I think he needs to be more of a fluid offense then you can have with Melo and Amare.

I've said it before there is a reason Randy Moss, Terrel Owens, Amare, and Melo haven't won titles, good to great players that care more about themselves, there paycheck, and there stats then the game don't win titles no matter how pretty there stats look.

Slimsim
05-25-2011, 11:46 AM
Not worried about defense because i no a leader like Chris Paul would make Amare and Melo commit to defense. Beside i think the Knicks showed glimpse in the boston series of being a decent defense team. Also don't forget the ring chasers not all of them can play on the heats and NY is in position right now to be able to challenge the heats for the next 5 years.

Boston Getting old

Chicago Until D rose get MVP treatment They would probably always fall short against the heats

Atlanta they have a lot of ??? with contracts

Magics TO many bad contracts to actually bring in a star or 2

Philly/Indiana Good young teams that would give top teams a scare but not enough star power to upset

NJ If they can get D howard they would be in the mix as well

Yanks All Day
05-25-2011, 12:00 PM
Chris Paul is on the Knicks? And I have a feeling that the new CBA is going to prevent three max contract players from joining forces. Also, I would say its almost guaranteed that Chris Paul gets traded somewhere before he hits free agency, just like Carmelo Anthony. If that's the case, the Knicks have nothing to offer other than a Billups expiring contract. Fields, Mozgov, etc would not suffice.

jeter 2
05-25-2011, 12:05 PM
Billups got injured 3 quarters into the series, come on now. Amare also!

and as far as Amare not being what he use to, LOL im going to pretend i didnt just read that. :rolleyes:

Totally agree with. What you just said was hot!

NYK|NYY
05-25-2011, 12:06 PM
I think these threads are dumb tbh.

ohreally
05-25-2011, 02:27 PM
dumb and annoying. but it seems fellow knicks fans just love their dreams and weed.

KnicksR4Real
05-25-2011, 02:43 PM
The Knicks suck, their season is over. Holy **** Knick fans give it a rest you aren't getting CP3. Quote me on that.

canoe sucks. quote me on that loser.

KnicksR4Real
05-25-2011, 02:45 PM
Chris Paul is on the Knicks? And I have a feeling that the new CBA is going to prevent three max contract players from joining forces. Also, I would say its almost guaranteed that Chris Paul gets traded somewhere before he hits free agency, just like Carmelo Anthony. If that's the case, the Knicks have nothing to offer other than a Billups expiring contract. Fields, Mozgov, etc would not suffice.

your a goon. mozgov aint a knick

jockrider
05-25-2011, 02:46 PM
brandon knight derozan ed davis >

Jonnyiscool222
05-25-2011, 03:01 PM
The Knicks suck, their season is over. Holy **** Knick fans give it a rest you aren't getting CP3. Quote me on that.

^^^ Agreed .. .. .. .. All this CP3 talk reminds me a lot of the LBJ drama !!!

Jonnyiscool222
05-25-2011, 03:03 PM
HEAT would still beat the Knicks

GeekInThePink
05-25-2011, 03:07 PM
Granted that a matchup of CP3, Amare, Melo vs Wade, Bosh and James would be amazing. Saying that they're the only team that can beat the Heat in the future is premature. Teams like the Clippers (If Aminu and Jordan take the next step and management stays sound ), OKC Thunder (if they continue to draft well and Harden develops and Westbrook's ego stays in check) and a handful of other teams could be right up there, we don't know what the future holds, so speculating to such an advanced degree as of now seems pointless.

MelkyNYY
05-25-2011, 04:01 PM
Stupid hypothetical thread still isn't locked. Just a way for Knick fans to feel relevant when they really aren't at all.

Ragan
05-25-2011, 04:31 PM
It would be one of the greatest rated series' in history, that is probably true. Unfortunately, TNT would only be enjoying those ratings for about 5 games or so. I'd still take the Celtics or Bulls over the Knicks even with CP3. Defense matters in the playoffs, dudes, and the Knicks don't play any. Not to mention the Heat will have a head start in terms of surrounding their stars with the right role players who fit around them, whereas the Knicks would likely be surrounded by scrubs (esp. if they had to trade to get Paul, they'd have nobody else on the team).

BigCityofDreams
05-25-2011, 09:33 PM
Chris Paul is on the Knicks? And I have a feeling that the new CBA is going to prevent three max contract players from joining forces. Also, I would say its almost guaranteed that Chris Paul gets traded somewhere before he hits free agency, just like Carmelo Anthony. If that's the case, the Knicks have nothing to offer other than a Billups expiring contract. Fields, Mozgov, etc would not suffice.

Paul can take less money to join the Knicks. I'm not saying he will but it's possible.

If he is traded somewhere else would he sign with that team? If he ends up on ORL that's one thing but how many other teams would he be willing to sign an extension with.

BigCityofDreams
05-25-2011, 09:35 PM
The Knicks suck, their season is over. Holy **** Knick fans give it a rest you aren't getting CP3. Quote me on that.

IYO where do you think he could end up?

jrm2054
05-25-2011, 09:46 PM
it would be a good series

mdm692
05-25-2011, 10:02 PM
I love how people think bosh is top 10 because of this series. . .chicago is allowin half of his points to be open jump shots because they focus all their d on wades and bron. . .

Btw amare has lighted up bosh every time they play each other
Melo seems to play much better vs lebron because of the roy award goin to bron
And cp3 vs wade would be interesting

THE MTL
05-25-2011, 10:12 PM
That series would feature some of the most watched basketball games in NBA history. It would rival MJ ratings.

jimm120
05-25-2011, 10:14 PM
When did Amare become top 10-15?

Before last year, Amare was top 15.

During last year, he fluctuated between #9 - #12

So yeah, he's top 10 - 15.

Top 5
#1 - 3 LeBron
#2 - 5 Wade

Top 10
#4 - 8 Paul
#7 - 10 Melo

Top 15
#9 - 12 Amare
#15 - 20 Bosh

That is how I rank these guys. So, the Heat would definitely ahve the better talent in wade and lebron, but paul and Melo would be right there in the top 10. Amare is a boderline top 10/top 12, while Bosh was around top 15...but after last year, who knows.

tbone2171
05-25-2011, 10:37 PM
Wait..what!? CP3 is on the Knicks???

Oh wait just some more premature ejaculation by Knicks fans....

MelkyNYY
05-25-2011, 10:39 PM
Wait..what!? CP3 is on the Knicks???

Oh wait just some more premature ejaculation by Knicks fans....

:clap:

John Walls Era
05-25-2011, 10:40 PM
I love how people think bosh is top 10 because of this series. . .chicago is allowin half of his points to be open jump shots because they focus all their d on wades and bron. . .

Btw amare has lighted up bosh every time they play each other
Melo seems to play much better vs lebron because of the roy award goin to bron
And cp3 vs wade would be interesting

False... actually your whole post is wrong.

John Walls Era
05-25-2011, 10:41 PM
I find it hilarious people always put PG v PG, SG v SG, SF v SF and stuff like that. What is this? A video game?

mdm692
05-25-2011, 10:48 PM
False... actually your whole post is wrong.

and u base that on what ive seen amare in phx for 8 years hes played better than bosh almost every time. . .

Melo although he wont admit it he has a rivalry with bron because he didnt win roy

most of boshs points have been jumpshots or fts because of his pumpfake when the bulls players rotate late to double wade or bron

mdm692
05-25-2011, 10:53 PM
I find it hilarious people always put PG v PG, SG v SG, SF v SF and stuff like that. What is this? A video game?

its called match ups or would u rarher have rose guard bosh and westbrook guard nowitzki. . .people compare positions because that is probably the player they will be guarding unless they have a defensive specialist.

If the nyk super team happens then match ups will be

Cp3 vs wade
Sg vs sg(probably mike miller)
Melo vs lebron
Amare vs bosh(anthony or haslem might help out)
Center vs center

its common sense lol

John Walls Era
05-25-2011, 10:57 PM
its called match ups or would u rarher have rose guard bosh and westbrook guard nowitzki. . .people compare positions because that is probably the player they will be guarding unless they have a defensive specialist.

If the nyk super team happens then match ups will be

Cp3 vs wade
Sg vs sg(probably mike miller)
Melo vs lebron
Amare vs bosh(anthony or haslem might help out)
Center vs center

its common sense lol

Its funny when people disregard everything else.

NYK4L
05-25-2011, 11:20 PM
Wait..what!? CP3 is on the Knicks???

Oh wait just some more premature ejaculation by Knicks fans....


What's with this whole ejaculation talk!!??, psd is full of sick perv's :facepalm:

knickfan33
05-25-2011, 11:27 PM
When did Amare become top 10-15?

over the last two years... now that he's developed an outside shot hes unguardable.... he was avging 30 points a game for most of the season...he was second only to durant... and hes one of the only PF's in the game who can create his own offence... he doesnt need to get position and depend on someone to get him the ball

... but as far as OPs question.... no... i always like the old school series better when the 4th quarter became a back and forth battle of the teams two best players....bird,magic,jordan,isaih,wilkins,ewing,r eggie.... so much beter then this sheeeet.... this big three stuff is just gonna eliminate the chance of seeing major upsets in the NBA

fadedmario
05-25-2011, 11:32 PM
NY isn't getting CP3 - keep dreaming...