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Clippersfan86
05-16-2011, 08:23 PM
I'm not trying to toot my horn here because I love what Memphis did this year and was actually hoping to see them advance to the WCF. They may be the most balanced team in the game. I just noticed a lot of people acting like this is the first time an underdog, bottom seed went so far.

There is a team most seem to forget that did something similar a few years back. The 2006 Clippers who finished with the 6th seed (half a game ahead of 7th, Memphis was 8th this year) had an almost identical situation. Matched up with 3 seed Denver the Clippers crushed the Nuggets 4-1 (just like Memphis did to San Antonio). In round 2 the Clippers had control of the series vs the Suns and like Memphis lost in 7 games (nearly making the WCF as an underdog/low seed). Sam Cassell had the ball with a tie game, under 30 seconds remaining and turned the ball over at the end of game 6. Steve Nash went down and hit the game winning shot on the other end to tie the series 3-3. Phoenix blows out the Clippers in Phoenix in a game 7 (OKC blew out Memphis on their homecourt).

The similarities don't end there. Much like this Memphis team the Clippers were the best team in the league that year scoring inside the paint. Also a great defensive (6th overall) and rebounding (3rd overall) unit like Memphis with great balance, size and depth. Elton Brand at his peak at the time was basically identical to what Zach Randolph is now.. but with better defense. Just something interesting I was thinking about when I thought about why the Memphis team seems so familiar. If you have time to look through both rosters you'll notice a lot of players that are similar in the way they play/kill you. Quinton Ross was our defensive perimeter specialist like Tony Allen.. Kaman back then played a lot like current Marc Gasol. Tons of post moves, uses both hands equally, very solid defense and rebounding. Great back to basket game.

210Don
05-16-2011, 08:25 PM
i dont think the grizz "crushed" the spurs smh.. horrible comparison tbh

Clippersfan86
05-16-2011, 08:26 PM
i dont think the grizz "crushed" the spurs smh.. horrible comparison tbh

Lol. You're a Spurs fan.. of course you don't think 4-2 series loss is being crushed. Memphis owned you guys rather easily.

210Don
05-16-2011, 08:27 PM
oh because we only won 1 game right? haha cool bro continue.....

Clippersfan86
05-16-2011, 08:28 PM
oh because we only won 1 game right? haha cool bro continue.....

Are you really wanting to go there? You were a 1 seed who got thrashed 4-2 by an 8 seed who beat you in pretty much every facet and you want to downplay it? Memphis was the better team and wanted it more PERIOD. YES they crushed you. I guess winning 2 games in the first round against the 8th seed when you're considered one of the title favorites was to be expected right lol?

Sadds The Gr8
05-16-2011, 08:31 PM
Clippers didn't beat the #1 seed

MrfadeawayJB
05-16-2011, 08:32 PM
Not to bad of a comparison actually. The only difference is we will be here for years to come while LAC went back into obscurity

210Don
05-16-2011, 08:33 PM
Are you really wanting to go there? You were a 1 seed who got thrashed 4-2 by an 8 seed who beat you in pretty much every facet and you want to downplay it? Memphis was the better team and wanted it more PERIOD. YES they crushed you. I guess winning 2 games in the first round against the 8th seed when you're considered one of the title favorites was to be expected right lol?

"crushed" is being swept 4 nothing
i was very satisfied how hard my team played winning was something else wasnt lack of effort.

Clippersfan86
05-16-2011, 08:33 PM
Clippers didn't beat the #1 seed

Dense is dense. Similar doesn't mean identical. Similar build of teams, lower seeding going 1 game from WCF (One 6th seed, one 8th), similar lead guy in Elton Brand/Zach Randolph both undersized, power players in the post who score the same way, similar players such as 06 Kaman and 11 Gasol. Both teams top scoring in the paint, top defensive units and great rebounding teams. Both killed you in almost identical ways. Get it?

Clippersfan86
05-16-2011, 08:34 PM
Not to bad of a comparison actually. The only difference is we will be here for years to come while LAC went back into obscurity

I agree because the next year we won like 19 games lmao. Good thing we are building from the ground up this time and should return to the playoffs within the next 2 seasons (probably next year, if there is a year).

Clippersfan86
05-16-2011, 08:36 PM
"crushed" is being swept 4 nothing
i was very satisfied how hard my team played winning was something else wasnt lack of effort.

Whatever helps you sleep at night. You were on pace for 70 wins a lot of the season, finished as the first seed who many thought had a chance to return to the finals and you're happy with losing 4-2 to an 8th seed in round 1? LOL. Sounds like denial.

Sadds The Gr8
05-16-2011, 08:36 PM
Dense is dense. Similar doesn't mean identical. Similar build of teams, lower seeding going 1 game from WCF (One 6th seed, one 8th), similar lead guy in Elton Brand/Zach Randolph both undersized, power players in the post who score the same way, similar players such as 06 Kaman and 11 Gasol. Both teams top scoring in the paint, top defensive units and great rebounding teams. Both killed you in almost identical ways. Get it?

i guess

buch88
05-16-2011, 08:37 PM
i dont think the grizz "crushed" the spurs smh.. horrible comparison tbh

the grizzlies crushed the spurs. it's a fact, not an opinion. case closed. you lost. no need for explanation. i won. you're mad. next topic.

210Don
05-16-2011, 08:37 PM
Whatever helps you sleep at night. You were on pace for 70 wins at one point, finished as the first seed who many thought had a chance to return to the finals and you're happy with losing 4-2 to an 8th seed? LOL. Sounds like denial.
nah not happy but what will depressing about it do for me? :confused:
its just bball bro
feels great when you win though best years of my life
99 03 05 07
maybe you will get that feeling one day! keep rooting for the clips!:)

210Don
05-16-2011, 08:38 PM
the grizzlies crushed the spurs. it's a fact, not an opinion. case closed. you lost. no need for explanation. i won. you're mad. next topic.

congratz to you and the grizz!

JL93
05-16-2011, 08:38 PM
i hate when there are clearly similarities between 2 things and people always come in and say "terrible comparison".

good comparison

Clippersfan86
05-16-2011, 08:38 PM
the grizzlies crushed the spurs. it's a fact, not an opinion. case closed. you lost. no need for explanation. i won. you're mad. next topic.

Hahaha... No... stop he's proud of the way his 1st seed team lost 4-2 in round 1 of the playoffs. That's all he expected.

Clippersfan86
05-16-2011, 08:40 PM
i hate when there are clearly similarities between 2 things and people always come in and say "terrible comparison".

good comparison

It's new fans of the last couple seasons I think who would flat out say "terrible comparison" without actually seeing the similarities. Ignorance is bliss I guess right?

AWC713
05-16-2011, 08:41 PM
sooo the grizzlies are going to add a blake griffin in a couple of years?

Clippersfan86
05-16-2011, 08:43 PM
sooo the grizzlies are going to add a blake griffin in a couple of years?

Lol.. first they have to blow up the team, lose Zach Randolph to a torn Achilles all season (Elton Brand very next season), make a bunch of stupid trades and win like 19 and 23 games the following 2 seasons! Only then can they get someone like Blake Griffin. Gotta love the Clippers :facepalm:. I have a good feeling this time is different though (don't laugh at me :()

Bulls_fan90
05-16-2011, 09:01 PM
The worst insult of all. Being compared to the Clippers.

ttam68
05-16-2011, 09:07 PM
"crushed" is being swept 4 nothing
i was very satisfied how hard my team played winning was something else wasnt lack of effort.

You talked **** on the Spurs that whole week. Now you're a proud fan? Wow.

That series was never really close. They Grizzlies had the upper hand from game 1. The 4-2 final doesn't tell the whole story.

210Don
05-16-2011, 09:13 PM
You talked **** on the Spurs that whole week. Now you're a proud fan? Wow.

That series was never really close. They Grizzlies had the upper hand from game 1. The 4-2 final doesn't tell the whole story.

i didnt see how hard we tried till they played the thunder... tbh so im not pissed they lost to the grizz. sorry bro

itsripcity32
05-16-2011, 09:16 PM
they weren't even an 8th seed team

sep11ie
05-16-2011, 09:34 PM
"crushed" is being swept 4 nothing
i was very satisfied how hard my team played winning was something else wasnt lack of effort.


That's not what you said after the series was over...

sep11ie
05-16-2011, 09:38 PM
The worst insult of all. Being compared to the Clippers.


Win

210Don
05-16-2011, 09:45 PM
That's not what you said after the series was over...

changed my mind heat of the moment thing... we played them very hard

Chacarron
05-16-2011, 09:56 PM
The worst insult of all. Being compared to the Clippers.

As the Clipper's commentator would say: "Biiingooo!!! Oh me, oh my."

king4day
05-16-2011, 10:02 PM
Clippers never had control of that series in 06. It was an extremely competitive series but the Clips never had a lead in that one.

SeoulBeatz
05-16-2011, 10:06 PM
i dont think the grizz "crushed" the spurs smh.. horrible comparison tbh

i didn't think the series would be close (as in i thought your spurs would destroy the grizz)

but yall got handled.

So did my sixers, there's no such thing as a moral victory in the playoffs.

championships
05-16-2011, 10:14 PM
Are you saying the Grizz are just a one hit wonder like the Clips were back then?

mttwlsn16
05-16-2011, 10:17 PM
as a lifelong clipper fan i disagree, granted 06 was GREAT for the LAC, and very promising, but brand left, maggette left, and bdiddy signed on bc he tought brand was staying...we got blown up real quick. i semi blame donald t sterling

but i expect the exact opposite in the coming years w sterling getting old he wants to go out a winner before he dies and finally a real owner takes over the team

but ya this years grizz have a much better chance next year than the 06 clipps did the following season

sep11ie
05-16-2011, 10:20 PM
changed my mind heat of the moment thing... we played them very hard


I know what ya mean. I thought it was a great series. Very fun to watch.

Chronz
05-16-2011, 10:23 PM
Believe it or not I was going to make this thread, I was going to focus more on Brand vs Z-Bo though. Good write up but you are misleading in a very sneaky way. For example, LAC wasnt exactly the underdog, Im pretty sure they had HCA vs the Nugs.

Chronz
05-16-2011, 10:25 PM
Are you saying the Grizz are just a one hit wonder like the Clips were back then?
Doubt it, their core is going to grow together. Clips went all in when they signed Mobley/Cassell


The worst insult of all. Being compared to the Clippers.
NICE

Clippersfan86
05-16-2011, 10:29 PM
Clippers never had control of that series in 06. It was an extremely competitive series but the Clips never had a lead in that one.

LOL. Clippers held a 3-2 lead in the series and choked at the end of game 6 with an 8 second to advance violation with possession with like 30 seconds left in a tie game. Elton Brand AVERAGED like 33 points, 13 rebounds and 3 blocks against the Suns if I recall. Remind me in what aspect the Clippers never had control of the series?

Chronz
05-16-2011, 10:36 PM
Clippers only lost that series because of Ewing.

Clippersfan86
05-16-2011, 10:36 PM
Believe it or not I was going to make this thread, I was going to focus more on Brand vs Z-Bo though. Good write up but you are misleading in a very sneaky way. For example, LAC wasnt exactly the underdog, Im pretty sure they had HCA vs the Nugs.

I think Dunleavy did milk that matchup to get HCA but nonetheless the perennially bad Clippers going in as a 6th seed vs a 3rd would NEVER be considered a favorite by any stretch of the imagination. Actually the Grizzlies tanked for seeding this year too. They knew they matched up well with the Spurs so yet another similarity. Dunleavy knew prime Elton Brand and Kaman would overwhelm Nene.

Clippersfan86
05-16-2011, 10:37 PM
Clippers only lost that series because of Ewing.

Yup. You mean when the Suns hit what would be the game winning shot in game 6 and he played shi*ty defense guarding the 3 ball right? I think it was Raja Bell who buried us with the 3.

The Senator
05-16-2011, 10:46 PM
I was pulling for the Spurs to win that series out of respect for the old guard, hoping to see a glorious last stand for Duncan, Manu, and Parker.

They got crushed in the series, though. It wasn't close, and the Grizzlies stomped them.

jockrider
05-16-2011, 10:58 PM
I agree because the next year we won like 19 games lmao. Good thing we are building from the ground up this time and should return to the playoffs within the next 2 seasons (probably next year, if there is a year).

the next year you guys won 40 games 9th seed.

Clippersfan86
05-16-2011, 11:06 PM
the next year you guys won 40 games 9th seed.

Ah that's right. 40 wins.. then traded Cassell to Boston and Elton ruptured his Achilles the next year, so basically I was a year off on those events.. then dropped to 23 wins next season, 19 after that. I'm going by memory not looking this up so error is to be expected. BTW Suns fan you were right. My memory was warped I guess. Game 5 are the events I was talking about in which the Clippers choked.

It was actually

Phoenix
Clippers
Phoenix
Clippers
Phoenix
Clippers
Phoenix

in the way of wins. So in actuality I guess neither team had control of the series besides the fact that game 5 Cassell screwed up with that 8 second to advance violation when we had the ball and were going to wind down the clock and go for game winner. Then Ewing giving up that Raja Bell costly 3. Clippers WOULD have been up 3-2, not WERE up 3-2 as I remembered incorrectly.

LakersMaster24
05-17-2011, 03:06 AM
"crushed" is being swept 4 nothing
i was very satisfied how hard my team played winning was something else wasnt lack of effort.

:cry::cry::cry:

ElMarroAfamado
05-17-2011, 03:28 AM
I agree and everyone knew the Spurs would lose because they sucked, so its not surprise they got crushed. But yeah I remember the Nuggets were beaten almost as easily as the Spurs were beating by the Grizz.

And to the guy who started the thread, it is a great comparison but everyone is just giving you a hard time because you are a Clippers fan. We have little room to talk so being a Clippers fan negates anything you could possibly say no matter how right you are (like me saying the Spurs were going to lose in the 1st round of the playoffs since the beginning of the year)

But yeah....

ElMarroAfamado
05-17-2011, 03:29 AM
Are you saying the Grizz are just a one hit wonder like the Clips were back then?

one hit wonder how? If you look at it they were a 2 hit wonder because they also finished with a better record than the Lakers...you know that one year the Lakers were coached by Frank Hamlin that not even Jack Nicholson went to the games? Remember that?

Iron24th
05-17-2011, 03:41 AM
Yes the grizz crushed the spurs,I have no problem admitting mavs crushed us even if two games were very close.

Back to topic,if memphis FO does a good job,the grizz will have a chance to shine again,but if FO fails,then yes memphis could go back to 10th-12th seed.

gsgs49
05-17-2011, 07:28 AM
Nah,the clippers weren't the underdogs in 2006.They had a better record(47-35) than the nuggets(44-38) and they had HCA and they had the better team on paper and on the court.

Cracka2HI!
05-17-2011, 03:51 PM
I agree because the next year we won like 19 games lmao. Good thing we are building from the ground up this time and should return to the playoffs within the next 2 seasons (probably next year, if there is a year).

It actually took 2 years for the team to completely fall apart. I believe we won 40 the year after our playoff run. We we're in good position most of the season and we're battling with New Orleans and someone else for #7 and #8. Livingston's leg fell off with about 10 games to go and we lost 8 out of 10 or something to barely miss the playoffs. We we're in good shape that year too and if Shaun didn't suffer the worst injury I've ever seen then we would have made the playoffs IMO. In fact everything would have been different. It wasn't more then 2 months later when Brand's achillies popped leading all Clipper Nation to once again believe in the curse.

So things could have been much different. Hell if Shaun would have lived up to his potential we could have made multiple playoff runs since then. However like you say we are in damn good shape now. Probably better shape then that team was and probably better shape then we've ever been in!

Very good comparision between the 2 teams!

Punk
05-17-2011, 03:59 PM
Comparing the Grizzlies to the Clippers run is an insult. Please don't do it again.

The reason why they made it that far is because they did everything the Lakers are supposed to do. Play inside-out. Play hard defense.

The Lakers never did it in the playoffs, the Grizzlies did and they were close to making the WCF.

king4day
05-17-2011, 03:59 PM
LOL. Clippers held a 3-2 lead in the series and choked at the end of game 6 with an 8 second to advance violation with possession with like 30 seconds left in a tie game. Elton Brand AVERAGED like 33 points, 13 rebounds and 3 blocks against the Suns if I recall. Remind me in what aspect the Clippers never had control of the series?

http://www.nba.com/suns/playoffs/2006_sunsclippers_index.html

You guys won game 6.
Each team swapped wins from the start of the series.
Clippers never led the series.

John Walls Era
05-17-2011, 05:16 PM
This Memphis team is a lot more talented. I forget who the Clippers actually had other than Brand and Kaman.