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kingbrentg
04-30-2011, 10:48 PM
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Series Tied 0-0



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(8th Seed, 46-36)_________ (4th Seed, 55-27)



Oklahoma City Arena
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Sunday, May 1, 2011 - 12:00 PM CT

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The Breakdown:

Statistically speaking, there's no contest. Westbrook averaged 21.9 ppg/8.2 apg/4.6 rpg/1.9 spg in the regular season vs. Conley's 13.7 ppg/6.5 apg/3.0 rpg/1.8 spg.

During the Spurs series, Conley improved to 14.3 ppg, 6.2 apg and 4.5 rpg. Westbrook's line in the Nuggets series was 23.8 ppg, 6.2 apg, 6.0 rpg.

Athletically speaking, again no contest. All-Star Westbrook is too quick, too fearless, too everything, for Conley to contain. Conley is solid and very good in the pick-and-roll, but he's not at Westbrook's level.

Westbrook's confidence may have been shaken with the backlash hurled his way for his Game 4 performance (12-of-30 shooting and failed attempts to win the game by hoisting late erratic threes), but he remembered Durant was playing in Game 5.

Advantage: Thunder


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.....................l...............Tony Allen ________l________l___l_______ Thabo Sefolosha

The Breakdown:

As Thunder fans know Allen turns it up a notch, a huge notch, when he plays this team. In the four regular season games against the Thunder, Allen posted a season-high average of 18.8 ppg, along with ten total steals. However, he also posted 17 fouls, the most against any team.

Sefolosha, like Allen, is lockdown perimeter specialist. As good as Sefolosha is (not offensively though), Allen's intensity and leadership, both strong factors in the Grizzlies' success, are clear advantages. Watch for Allen to share in duties to guard Westbrook if Conley struggles.

Advantage: Grizzlies


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...........................l.........Sam Young ____________________________ Kevin Durant

The Breakdown:

You can bet the Grizzlies are working on their game plan now trying to answer the magic question: How can Durant be limited?

Young will start in the position; a combination of Shane Battier, Allen and Young will do their level best to guard the wily forward, who happens to be the league's back-to-back scoring champion and two-time All-Star.

Durant averaged 32.4 points in the Denver series (with 3.2 three-pointers per game) despite hands in his face and double-teaming efforts. His length and agility allows him to get a shot off from almost anywhere. Plus, he's added "clutch" to his resume. Battier has the highest probability of playing the most minutes guarding Durant without fouling; his ability to alter shots cannot be overlooked.

Advantage: Thunder


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........................l.............Zach Randolph ____________l_____________ Serge Ibaka

The Breakdown:

The battle of the bigs is key to this game (we're including Kendrick Perkins and Marc Gasol here, too). The Gasol/Randolph tandem was too much for the Spurs. Facing this type of size in the playoffs is precisely why Thunder general manager Sam Presti acquired Perkins and veteran Nazr Mohammed.

It's imperative to note that the 3-1 Memphis vs. Thunder record in the regular season was without Perkins. Again, the bigs matchup is what to watch.

Randolph had an outstanding regular season and looks to repeat in the postseason. He averaged 20.1 ppg/12.2 rpg during the season and 21.5 ppg/9.2 rpg in the Spurs series. In Game 6, he scored 31 points (17 came in the fourth quarter) and grabbed 11 rebounds.

Ibaka, at only 21 years of age, is turning into a defensive beast and offensive threat. In the five playoffs game vs. Denver, he posted 10.2 ppg, 11.2 rebounds and 4.8 bpg (nine blocks in Game 5). In fact, he logged his best scoring and rebound record during the two road games in Denver.

In those four regular-season games, Randolph was guarded by ex-Thunder Jeff Green. It's a different picture now with Ibaka in place.

Advantage: Even


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.......................................Marc Gasol ________________l_________ Kendrick Perkins

The Breakdown:

The difference here is that Gasol (14.2 ppg/12.3 rpg in Round 1) can play more effectively on both ends of the court, while Perkins (5.4 ppg/6.6 in Round 1) makes his money protecting the rim.
There's a lot of unknown here since the two haven't had the pleasure of meeting this year. Gasol is riding high on confidence and has answered the call to step up in the postseason. Tough-minded Perkins has played just 21 games in total with his new team. Is handling the 7'1" Gasol too much to expect? How will Gasol respond to Perkins' considerably physical-style of play?

Advantage: Even



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Memphis Grizzlies: Oklahoma City Thunder:
Points: Zach Randolph - 20.1 Kevin Durant - 27.7
Rebounds: Zach Randolph - 12.2 Kendrick Perkins* - 7.9
Assists: Mike Conley - 6.5 Russell Westbrook - 8.2
Blocks: Marc Gasol - 1.7 Serge Ibaka - 2.4
Steals: Tony Allen - 1.8 Russell Westbrook - 1.9
Field Goal %: Marc Gasol - 52.7 Nazr Mohammed* - 57.3
3-Point %: Mike Conley - 36.9 Daequan Cook - 42.2
Efficient FG %: Marc Gasol - 52.9 Daequan Cook - 61.6
True Shooting %: Marc Gasol - 58.0 Daequan Cook - 63.0
Minutes: Zach Randolph - 36.3 Kevin Durant - 38.9
PER: Zach Randolph - 22.6 Kevin Durant - 23.6
Win Shares: Zach Randolph - 10.5 Kevin Durant - 12.0




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Memphis Wins Season Series 3-1

Grizzlies 110, Thunder 105 - January 4, 2011 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=310104029)

Thunder 109, Grizzlies 100 - January 8, 2011 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=310108025)

Grizzlies 105, Thunder 101 - February 8, 2011 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=310208025)

Grizzlies 107, Thunder 101 - March 7, 2011 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=310307029)



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B'sCeltsPatsSox
04-30-2011, 10:48 PM
This should be a very interesting series.

SteBO
04-30-2011, 10:55 PM
The battle of two of the top front courts in the league. Should be interesting

LTBaByyy
04-30-2011, 11:07 PM
Z Bo and Ibaka is not even???? Z Bo is wayyyy better!!!

Gasol is better than Perkins too!!! I dont agree with the break down

But Grizzlies take this series but lose game 1 cause of they just played last night

*Superman*
04-30-2011, 11:08 PM
Nice GT.

Go Thunder!

mttwlsn16
04-30-2011, 11:16 PM
Straight Grizz lets gooooo

Chacarron
04-30-2011, 11:26 PM
No way the Thunder lose this game at home. :)

CityofTreez
04-30-2011, 11:27 PM
I got the Thunder winning this one at HOME.

Hangtime
04-30-2011, 11:48 PM
Grizz comin off tough game last night. I don't see them being ready for game 1. Thunder take game 1. Grizz take game 2.

MrfadeawayJB
05-01-2011, 12:08 AM
Z Bo and Ibaka is not even???? Z Bo is wayyyy better!!!

Gasol is better than Perkins too!!! I dont agree with the break down

But Grizzlies take this series but lose game 1 cause of they just played last night

yeah i was thinking the same thing about the breakdown with the bigs. I hope we play well, despite having little time to rest after the spurs series. However, sometimes teams play well tired, so i hope this is the case

kingbrentg
05-01-2011, 12:19 AM
The breakdowns are from hoopsworld, not me.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=19639

210Don
05-01-2011, 12:19 AM
grizz frontline should continue to dominate
i hope so...

Chi StateOfMind
05-01-2011, 12:26 AM
I want the Grizz to win but I think OKC will take this one at home. Should be a very good series going at least 6 games. Z-Bo should beast again and Durant will get his.

Key matchup for me is how Conley plays Westbrook.

The Jokemaker
05-01-2011, 01:24 AM
Thunder win by 7.

TheRunKiller
05-01-2011, 01:28 AM
I want to see how Zbo & Gasol play against Ibaka & Perkins...anyone could have had a good series against 45 year old tim duncan & undersized white guy matt bonner

IversonIsKrazy
05-01-2011, 01:58 AM
Memphis should get HCA for knocking off the 1st seed lol. But I hope to see the Grizz win this one!

Baller1
05-01-2011, 02:05 AM
Thunder by 13.

J.Twiggy
05-01-2011, 02:07 AM
I got the Thunder taking game 1 and Grizz taking game 2 this series should go either 6 or 7 games.

MJ-BULLS
05-01-2011, 02:36 AM
Thunder are going to win game one.

LakersIn5
05-01-2011, 02:36 AM
zbo and marc > ibaka and perkins .

- grizzlies win by double digits
- battier,allen,young will hold durant to less than 25 points with horrible shooting(below 35%)
- westbrook will be the thunder's leading scorer as the defense of the grizzlies will focus mainly on durant
- 6 grizzlies will be in double digits. no one will reach 20 points

SP17
05-01-2011, 03:11 AM
Thunder is gonna take this one..

VRP723
05-01-2011, 03:36 AM
The fact that one of these teams is going to the WCF is pretty awesome. I'll take the Thunder in this game though.

MacFitz92
05-01-2011, 04:05 AM
Didn't agree with hoopshype.com's assesment at all with the frontcourt. Memphise has one of the better frontcourts in the league, whereas Oklahoma has, pretty much, a middle of the road frontcourt.

I think the series will rely on how well Tony Allen and Shane Battier can limit the stars in OKC.

Avenged
05-01-2011, 04:54 AM
Memphis steals game 1.

championships
05-01-2011, 05:13 AM
I think the Thunder take game 1 at home.

mrbtp
05-01-2011, 06:42 AM
GO thunder, thats all i can say :)

northsider
05-01-2011, 08:30 AM
Thunder bring down the hammers tonight.

Iron24th
05-01-2011, 08:38 AM
Interesting,can the grizz win the first game of the series again?

drobe86
05-01-2011, 12:15 PM
Lol@ the creator of this thread that considers Ibaka to be Even with Z-Bo. And Gasol is better than Perk as well lol... Both statistically and hypothetically speaking. I like the Memphis today, and in the series... Grizzlies in 7

alencp3
05-01-2011, 12:18 PM
Thunder by 9, win series in 5

mzgrizz
05-01-2011, 12:48 PM
Z Bo and Ibaka is not even???? Z Bo is wayyyy better!!!

Gasol is better than Perkins too!!! I dont agree with the break down

But Grizzlies take this series but lose game 1 cause of they just played last night

X 2 !!!! Underestimating the Grizz again, but hey ! OK with me.
I BELIEVE !!!!!!!!!

mzgrizz
05-01-2011, 12:51 PM
grizz frontline should continue to dominate
i hope so...

Thanks 210 Don.......I am happy you are with us !

mzgrizz
05-01-2011, 12:53 PM
I want the Grizz to win but I think OKC will take this one at home. Should be a very good series going at least 6 games. Z-Bo should beast again and Durant will get his.

Key matchup for me is how Conley plays Westbrook.

And how Hollins gets him the switch offs or doubles to try and contain Westbrook

mzgrizz
05-01-2011, 12:55 PM
Memphis should get HCA for knocking off the 1st seed lol. But I hope to see the Grizz win this one!

YAYAYAYAYAYAYAY !!! Let's Go GRIZZLIES !!!!!!!!!!!!!

allSUAVE
05-01-2011, 12:59 PM
ibaka going to have 20 blocks tonight on zach randolph

mzgrizz
05-01-2011, 12:59 PM
I got the Thunder taking game 1 and Grizz taking game 2 this series should go either 6 or 7 games.

Hey Twiggy
I am with you on this one although I'd love to steal this opener. There may be a fatigue factor for my boys but with this gritty, determined team, you NEVER know. I also believe it will go 7, but obviously to the Grizz !

tredigs
05-01-2011, 01:00 PM
Z-Bo TORCHED OKC this season, but that changes drastically when you replace the defensively impotent Jeff Green with a defensive post juggernaut in Perkins. Even if he's not directly guarding him, that presence in the paint alters his scoring options in a major way.

Memphis has a sick team - far better than your standard 8th seed obviously - but the Thunder are flat out better. 21 yr old Ibaka has improved to a HIGH level at this point of the season, and KD + Westbrook are going to torch their matchups.

Definitely a series where Rudy Gay will be missed. He plays KD well.

mzgrizz
05-01-2011, 01:01 PM
Memphis steals game 1.

:clap::clap::clap:

LakersIn5
05-01-2011, 01:04 PM
battier and tony allen would look like defensive GODS after game 1.

Punk
05-01-2011, 01:05 PM
I got Memphis taking this game

tredigs
05-01-2011, 01:05 PM
Don't leave Serge open now. That 15-20 footer is all day for him now.

northsider
05-01-2011, 01:06 PM
So that ****ing intro was awesome this crowd is great.

Punk
05-01-2011, 01:06 PM
The refs are at it already.

LTBaByyy
05-01-2011, 01:07 PM
Randolph is a beast!!!!!!!

Punk
05-01-2011, 01:08 PM
Zack Randolph is the best PF in the playoffs. No question.

LakersIn5
05-01-2011, 01:09 PM
mommy there goes zach randolph again

210Don
05-01-2011, 01:09 PM
grizz are legit, there gonna be dragon slayers......
there advantage isn't as great vs thunder down low but they still have a advantage

LTBaByyy
05-01-2011, 01:09 PM
OMG!!!!!!! Grizzlies is gonna take this series, Randolph is amazing

Ibaka is the same production as Perkins, same style of play too

They need to make Ibaka the 6th man in the future bc you are gettin no points in the paint

LTBaByyy
05-01-2011, 01:10 PM
Zack Randolph is the best PF in the playoffs. No question.

2nd PF??????

Cause Dirk is still playing

tredigs
05-01-2011, 01:10 PM
Memphis looks great. Gonna be an awesome series.

That OKC crowd is insane. So loud.

Punk
05-01-2011, 01:12 PM
Marc Gasol looks better than his brother

LTBaByyy
05-01-2011, 01:13 PM
The funny thing is Rudy Gay their 2nd best players isnt even been playing

Iodine
05-01-2011, 01:13 PM
Durant is like Jesus on steroids

justinnum1
05-01-2011, 01:14 PM
zbo is a beast

210Don
05-01-2011, 01:14 PM
everybody keeps talking about gay this team is better without him..... please they werent that good with him

drobe86
05-01-2011, 01:15 PM
Z-Bo is a top 2 PF in this league.. And to think that guys like Tim Duncan, Kevin Love, and Blake Griffin were all stars over him... That in itself is comical when you look at the type of player Randolph is and what he brings to the table.

Punk
05-01-2011, 01:17 PM
everybody keeps talking about gay this team is better without him..... please they werent that good with him

:facepalm:

They beat the Heat, Lakers and Gay dominated both games. He is important.

210Don
05-01-2011, 01:17 PM
:facepalm:

They beat the Heat, Lakers and Gay dominated both games. He is important.

well then there the best team in the league with him.... and its not even close

Hangtime
05-01-2011, 01:18 PM
I am really impressed with Sam Young and Darrell Arthur off the bench.

LakersIn5
05-01-2011, 01:18 PM
OMG!!!!!!! Grizzlies is gonna take this series, Randolph is amazing

Ibaka is the same production as Perkins, same style of play too

They need to make Ibaka the 6th man in the future bc you are gettin no points in the paint

AGREE 100%! perkins and ibaka are both defensive behemoths but they arent that great offensiveley. well atleast one of them needs to be an inside threat for the thunder to be a much better team. they need to make ibaka as 6th man like you said. or trade him for a better scorer that also plays great D (so definitely not jeff green :p ). not scola but a player like luis scola would be the perfect pf for the thunder.

Punk
05-01-2011, 01:19 PM
For god sakes, don't injure Gasol.

LTBaByyy
05-01-2011, 01:19 PM
I would love a Mavs vs Grizzlies WCF

Something different

Purple&Gold24
05-01-2011, 01:20 PM
Grizzlies looking pretty good wow.

mzgrizz
05-01-2011, 01:20 PM
:facepalm:

They beat the Heat, Lakers and Gay dominated both games. He is important.

We would have been a LOT less likely to be in the playoffs without Rudy

210Don
05-01-2011, 01:21 PM
this is gunna be such a fun series to watch

Punk
05-01-2011, 01:22 PM
Randolph has a godly shot

mzgrizz
05-01-2011, 01:22 PM
I would love a Mavs vs Grizzlies WCF

Something different

Works for me too

drobe86
05-01-2011, 01:23 PM
Randolph is too trill lol...

LTBaByyy
05-01-2011, 01:23 PM
AGREE 100%! perkins and ibaka are both defensive behemoths but they arent that great offensiveley. well atleast one of them needs to be an inside threat for the thunder to be a much better team. they need to make ibaka as 6th man like you said. or trade him for a better scorer that also plays great D (so definitely not jeff green :p ). not scola but a player like luis scola would be the perfect pf for the thunder.

Exactly!!!!!!!!!! :clap:

Someone like Z Bo haha he is a beast

Cause you cant have 3 defensive players in your starting line up!!!

You should have 2 at the MOST!!!! Durant and Westbrook cant do everything and the defensive players just stand around picking all the time

mzgrizz
05-01-2011, 01:23 PM
Fricking refs again

LakersIn5
05-01-2011, 01:24 PM
griiiiiiiiiiiiiiiizlies

Hawkeye15
05-01-2011, 01:24 PM
Grizz very composed, I am surprised. I love the tenacity of their defense in the playoffs so far.

drobe86
05-01-2011, 01:25 PM
Anyone else think its pretty safe to say that Pau Gasol has been surpassed by his brother? Marc has been much better this playoff season statistically, and Pau has really fallen off. That 8 point 5 rebound performace vs. NOH pretty much solidified that he's done

Hangtime
05-01-2011, 01:25 PM
Gay was clutch in many games this year. To say he wouldn't be a major factor is absurd.

mzgrizz
05-01-2011, 01:26 PM
You know, Thunder has the pressure in this game. If they don't win against a team that played 2 days ago in a full throttle battle, well.........you know what I mean.
Grizz should be pretty loose.

Purple&Gold24
05-01-2011, 01:26 PM
I would love a Lakers vs Grizzlies WCF

210Don
05-01-2011, 01:26 PM
anyone else think its pretty safe to say that pau gasol has been surpassed by his brother? Marc has been much better this playoff season statistically, and pau has really fallen off. That 8 point 5 rebound performace vs. Noh pretty much solidified that he's done

no.

lakers4sho
05-01-2011, 01:26 PM
letss go grizz

Looks like ZBo's jumpshot is money. Hopefully he stays hot all game long.

nitric
05-01-2011, 01:26 PM
Anyone else think its pretty safe to say that Pau Gasol has been surpassed by his brother? Marc has been much better this playoff season statistically, and Pau has really fallen off. That 8 point 5 rebound performace vs. NOH pretty much solidified that he's done

one series and he's done? lmao:clap:

LakersIn5
05-01-2011, 01:27 PM
Exactly!!!!!!!!!! :clap:

Someone like Z Bo haha he is a beast

Cause you cant have 3 defensive players in your starting line up!!!

You should have 2 at the MOST!!!! Durant and Westbrook cant do everything and the defensive players just stand around picking all the time

AAAAAAAAMEN! :clap:

i know it wont happen but lamarcus aldridge would look sexy on that thunder starting PF slot :D

lakers4sho
05-01-2011, 01:27 PM
Anyone else think its pretty safe to say that Pau Gasol has been surpassed by his brother? Marc has been much better this playoff season statistically, and Pau has really fallen off. That 8 point 5 rebound performace vs. NOH pretty much solidified that he's done

It's all about matchups homie.

Punk
05-01-2011, 01:27 PM
Anyone else think its pretty safe to say that Pau Gasol has been surpassed by his brother? Marc has been much better this playoff season statistically, and Pau has really fallen off. That 8 point 5 rebound performace vs. NOH pretty much solidified that he's done

I'd say so. Pau got dominated by Carl Landry. Marc is seems quicker and accepts that physical contact that Pau is criticized for.

Hawkeye15
05-01-2011, 01:28 PM
Gay was clutch in many games this year. To say he wouldn't be a major factor is absurd.

While Gay would be an upgrade offensively, he would be taking minutes away from their two best defenders, so its kind of a toss up.

lakers4sho
05-01-2011, 01:28 PM
damn Vasquez don't screw up

Hangtime
05-01-2011, 01:28 PM
In the paint.......advantage Memphis

Hawkeye15
05-01-2011, 01:29 PM
wait, so Marc is a top 12 player now?

Guys, its one series. Pau is far superior.

210Don
05-01-2011, 01:29 PM
surprised to see the grizz offense playing so well

lakers4sho
05-01-2011, 01:29 PM
Memphis bigs looking to abuse OKC's frontline. Looking good so far.

drobe86
05-01-2011, 01:30 PM
one series and he's done? lmao:clap:


Both guys have a 6 game playoff sample though... 8 and 5 vs. Carl Landry is unacceptable for a supposed "elite" player. All I heard was about how good Gasol was supposed to have been. He's been nothing short of AWFUL this season. Kobe even said as such in so many words

mzgrizz
05-01-2011, 01:31 PM
I'd say so. Pau got dominated by Carl Landry. Marc is seems quicker and accepts that physical contact that Pau is criticized for.

I would disagree about the quickness(favor Pau) but the physical nature of play...Marc for sure.

Hangtime
05-01-2011, 01:31 PM
wait, so Marc is a top 12 player now?

Guys, its one series. Pau is far superior.

Lol. Agreed. Marc fits in that system but Pau is the better player.

Punk
05-01-2011, 01:31 PM
While Gay would be an upgrade offensively, he would be taking minutes away from their two best defenders, so its kind of a toss up.

Not really. He would take away minutes from Sam Young who starts at SF in his place.

drobe86
05-01-2011, 01:33 PM
It's all about matchups homie.


It is about matchups I agree. But elite PF's give Carl Landry 30+.... We're talking about a 6'6 player with very little ability... And Pau never responded, he just tucked his tail in between his legs and took whatever Landry was giving....

m26555
05-01-2011, 01:33 PM
Did anyone notice in that last "ball" commercial that was talking about the Celtics/Bulls series from two years ago, they showed Garnett diving for a loose ball? You would think they would realize that KG didn't even play in that series. :laugh2:

lakers4sho
05-01-2011, 01:34 PM
It is about matchups I agree. But elite PF's give Carl Landry 30+.... We're talking about a 6'6 player with very little ability... And Pau never responded, he just tucked his tail in between his legs and took whatever Landry was giving....

Everyone has his own weakness[ es ].

lakers4sho
05-01-2011, 01:36 PM
OKC can't beat Memphis with their fast break. That's one ace down.

Punk
05-01-2011, 01:36 PM
Memphis is rolling

lakers4sho
05-01-2011, 01:36 PM
The fix is in. Damn these refs.

210Don
05-01-2011, 01:36 PM
this lookin exactly like my spurs the grizz matching every shot and more

Avenged
05-01-2011, 01:37 PM
ANYWAYS......

I'm very surprised at the Grizzlies composure. This crowd is very loud but they keep taking every hit and responding.

Hawkeye15
05-01-2011, 01:37 PM
Not really. He would take away minutes from Sam Young who starts at SF in his place.

Battier and Allen would not get the minutes they see now, and they have been as important as anyone. Rudy would help them late in the shotclock, and in late game situations, I would agree. But the Grizz defense would suffer

Punk
05-01-2011, 01:37 PM
Everyone has his own weakness[ es ].

I know you gotta defend him and all but that's a weak excuse, dude. Pau just is inconsistent.

LionsFan..LOL
05-01-2011, 01:38 PM
And 1 Oj Mayo

lakers4sho
05-01-2011, 01:38 PM
There we go. Attack the basket. Get rid of their bigs.

Hawkeye15
05-01-2011, 01:38 PM
It is about matchups I agree. But elite PF's give Carl Landry 30+.... We're talking about a 6'6 player with very little ability... And Pau never responded, he just tucked his tail in between his legs and took whatever Landry was giving....

you are letting 6 games overried 100's of games dude.

drobe86
05-01-2011, 01:38 PM
Pau is not a top 12 player. According to whom? He certainly hasn't been top anything this season. At PF he has really fallen off. Dirk, Z-Bo, Stoudemire, Aldridge, Griffin are all superior players. And I can make a case for Kevin Love and Al Horford... So he's like 7 or 8 in PF's much less the NBA. I think saying he's top 25 is a bit more realistic

allSUAVE
05-01-2011, 01:39 PM
rudy gay not needed on this team ..trade him for more depth

lakers4sho
05-01-2011, 01:39 PM
I know you gotta defend him and all but that's a weak excuse, dude. Pau just is inconsistent.

I'm guaranteeing you Pau will have a better series against Dirk than he did against Landry. Again, it boils down to matchups. Pau is simply not good against physical defenders.

210Don
05-01-2011, 01:39 PM
who cares whos better pau or marc watch the ****in game well debate that if they actually meet

JordansBulls
05-01-2011, 01:39 PM
Pau is not a top 12 player. According to whom? He certainly hasn't been top anything this season. At PF he has really fallen off. Dirk, Z-Bo, Stoudemire, Aldridge, Griffin are all superior players. And I can make a case for Kevin Love and Al Horford... So he's like 7 or 8 in PF's much less the NBA. I think saying he's top 25 is a bit more realistic

Pau is 2nd in the league in Win shares this year behind Lebron, he obviously is a top 10 player.

Hawkeye15
05-01-2011, 01:40 PM
Pau is not a top 12 player. According to whom? He certainly hasn't been top anything this season. At PF he has really fallen off. Dirk, Z-Bo, Stoudemire, Aldridge, Griffin are all superior players. And I can make a case for Kevin Love and Al Horford... So he's like 7 or 8 in PF's much less the NBA. I think saying he's top 25 is a bit more realistic

I like ya bud, but you are all over the place with your posts. 3 months ago Love sucked according to you. Who rates Pau as a top 12 player? Most analysts, and most of PSD, for starters.

Moving on, I think there is a game on...

Punk
05-01-2011, 01:41 PM
Memphis is the best 8th seed I've ever seen.

Baller1
05-01-2011, 01:41 PM
I'm impressed with Memphis early; negating that crowd isn't easy.

Avenged
05-01-2011, 01:42 PM
I know you gotta defend him and all but that's a weak excuse, dude. Pau just is inconsistent.

You must be talking about another Pau.

LTBaByyy
05-01-2011, 01:43 PM
Idk why the Thunder are so hyped, they have no inside presence

It's just 2 All Stars and 3 defensive guys, let Westbrook get his and double KD the whole game

I mean atleast the Heat have Bosh inside

JordansBulls
05-01-2011, 01:43 PM
ANYWAYS......

I'm very surprised at the Grizzlies composure. This crowd is very loud but they keep taking every hit and responding.

Well when you knock off a 1 seed, I expect for you to have composure.

LionsFan..LOL
05-01-2011, 01:43 PM
Nice passing by Memphis

JordansBulls
05-01-2011, 01:44 PM
Memphis is the best 8th seed I've ever seen.

Knicks in 1999. Hell they swept a team in round 2.

Punk
05-01-2011, 01:44 PM
Wow Memphis shuts down the paint

allSUAVE
05-01-2011, 01:44 PM
I Dont understand why the knicks traded me, im better than Chris Bosh- Zach Randolph

Avenged
05-01-2011, 01:45 PM
Pau is not a top 12 player. According to whom? He certainly hasn't been top anything this season. At PF he has really fallen off. Dirk, Z-Bo, Stoudemire, Aldridge, Griffin are all superior players. And I can make a case for Kevin Love and Al Horford... So he's like 7 or 8 in PF's much less the NBA. I think saying he's top 25 is a bit more realistic

Haha. 7 or 8 in PF's? The guy is about 2 spots down from the 8th spot in the whole league alone.. No way is he a 7-8 PF........

lakers4sho
05-01-2011, 01:45 PM
wow Memphis matches up well with every team they've faced so far. Impressive.

m26555
05-01-2011, 01:45 PM
Westbrook is out of control...

Slimsim
05-01-2011, 01:45 PM
Memphis so ****ing good

LionsFan..LOL
05-01-2011, 01:45 PM
OKC sloppy so far

Avenged
05-01-2011, 01:45 PM
11 point lead. :clap:

lakers4sho
05-01-2011, 01:45 PM
Memphis needs to stay focused. They can beat this team.

LakersIn5
05-01-2011, 01:45 PM
zbo starting to miss shots. but he will pick it up in the 2nd half. specially in the 4th

justinnum1
05-01-2011, 01:46 PM
I Dont understand why the knicks traded me, im better than Chris Bosh- Zach Randolph

bosh owned randolph both times they played this season...

but z bo is a beast.

Baller1
05-01-2011, 01:46 PM
OKC needs to get their head in the damn game. We're just giving the ball to Memphis.

AI4MVP
05-01-2011, 01:46 PM
holy ****. where did this memphis team come from?

k.smith904
05-01-2011, 01:46 PM
I don't get the hype for okc.

their bench is horrendous.

mzgrizz
05-01-2011, 01:46 PM
I believe !! I believe !! I believe !!!!!!!!!!!

Ecko72jc
05-01-2011, 01:46 PM
WESTBROOK YOU CHUCKING TURNOVER MACHINE:mad:

Iron24th
05-01-2011, 01:46 PM
Westbrook is a ballhog.
Impressed by Memphis solid play again.

Avenged
05-01-2011, 01:46 PM
Idk why the Thunder are so hyped, they have no inside presence

It's just 2 All Stars and 3 defensive guys, let Westbrook get his and double KD the whole game

I mean atleast the Heat have Bosh inside

No inside presence? Ibaka and Perkins, anyone?

210Don
05-01-2011, 01:47 PM
OKC needs to get their head in the damn game. We're just giving the ball to Memphis.

we did the exact same thing turnovers galore..... that defense is suffocating
reminds me of 04 & 05 pistons

Punk
05-01-2011, 01:47 PM
Knicks in 1999. Hell they swept a team in round 2.

Well, I'd agree but that team already peaked. Memphis is an 8th seed that can only get better.

Carey
05-01-2011, 01:47 PM
Further evidence on why either Scott Brooks should be fired or a offensive asst needs to be hired and take complete control of the offense of this team, ridiculous in so many different ways.

LakersIn5
05-01-2011, 01:47 PM
besides the lakers the grizzlies are the only team that i would be happy winning the championship

m26555
05-01-2011, 01:47 PM
No inside presence? Ibaka and Perkins, anyone?
I think he meant on the offensive end of the floor, and in that sense, he's right.

northsider
05-01-2011, 01:47 PM
Just got to limit the TO's for the Thunder and stop letting them grab second chances.

kjoke
05-01-2011, 01:48 PM
As much as the Spurs and Thunder are different, they are the SAME. Niether are known as stong 3 point teams, memphis is packing the paint and wanting Russel and Harden and Cook shooting from out there.

allSUAVE
05-01-2011, 01:48 PM
Westbrook your not A.I

Avenged
05-01-2011, 01:48 PM
Well when you knock off a 1 seed, I expect for you to have composure.

Very true.. but didn't the Warriors do the same thing a few years ago?

The Jazz took it to them in the next round.

I'm very impressed with this Grizzlies team. They're certainly playing like a top 3 team out West.

Carey
05-01-2011, 01:49 PM
WESTBROOK YOU CHUCKING TURNOVER MACHINE:mad:

33 % coaching
33 % him
33 % starting the game with 3 non offensive players

LionsFan..LOL
05-01-2011, 01:49 PM
Memphis is really impressive so far

Crackadalic
05-01-2011, 01:49 PM
If OKC keeps shooting jumpers there gonna lose this series. GRiz are way too good to be beaten by just jumpers

m26555
05-01-2011, 01:49 PM
Randolph never misses that shot. It's unreal.

Sadds The Gr8
05-01-2011, 01:49 PM
Westbrook movin up in the ranks of biggest chucker in the league

LTBaByyy
05-01-2011, 01:49 PM
No inside presence? Ibaka and Perkins, anyone?

Ibaka needs to be the 6th man in the future, they are the same player!!!!

Obviously they will hurt this team in the future bc those 2 hurt the offense soooooo much

Ibaka needs an offensive game or be the 6th man and go get a offensive PF

They have no inside presence!!!!

Dirk, Pau, Z Bo, Bosh, Garnett, Boozer, Horford

northsider
05-01-2011, 01:49 PM
Got to start hitting shots too or getting it to guys who can.

Hangtime
05-01-2011, 01:49 PM
Look at the rebounding descrepancy here. WOW

Slimsim
05-01-2011, 01:49 PM
OKC is in trouble

Punk
05-01-2011, 01:49 PM
Wow Randolph over Perkins in his face

Ecko72jc
05-01-2011, 01:49 PM
Westbrook is not an elite PG.

lakers4sho
05-01-2011, 01:49 PM
Zach Randolph is a machine.

Baller1
05-01-2011, 01:49 PM
You guys are overreacting. It's been 18 minutes...

justinnum1
05-01-2011, 01:49 PM
damn zbo

210Don
05-01-2011, 01:50 PM
z-bo has magnets on that ball crazy good

lakers4sho
05-01-2011, 01:50 PM
lol refs

Hawkeye15
05-01-2011, 01:50 PM
Here is one difference between Westbrook and Rose that hurts Russell. Neither are very good distributors, and both end up with the ball late in the clock many times. Why does Westbrook, with that athletic ability, not attack the rim full speed like Rose does instead of settling for a 17 footer?

Russell, you are stronger than Conley. Go to the rim

k.smith904
05-01-2011, 01:50 PM
what a **** call on zbo

Sadds The Gr8
05-01-2011, 01:50 PM
Idk why the Thunder are so hyped, they have no inside presence

It's just 2 All Stars and 3 defensive guys, let Westbrook get his and double KD the whole game

I mean atleast the Heat have Bosh inside

i think they're overrated too

210Don
05-01-2011, 01:50 PM
You guys are overreacting. It's been 18 minutes...

no way that defense will never let up... your in trouble

m26555
05-01-2011, 01:50 PM
What a move by Conley.

Punk
05-01-2011, 01:51 PM
Conley owned Westbrook there

LionsFan..LOL
05-01-2011, 01:51 PM
Nice move by Conley

northsider
05-01-2011, 01:51 PM
This is the true meaning of making the most of something with this Grizz team. Randolph is ****ing automatic with that shot.

Baller1
05-01-2011, 01:51 PM
As much as the Spurs and Thunder are different, they are the SAME. Niether are known as stong 3 point teams, memphis is packing the paint and wanting Russel and Harden and Cook shooting from out there.

San Antonio was one of, if not the best, three point shooting teams in the league.

Ecko72jc
05-01-2011, 01:51 PM
Westbrook is not an elite PG.

I repeat

mzgrizz
05-01-2011, 01:51 PM
Memphis so ****ing good

Hell yes

Avenged
05-01-2011, 01:51 PM
I wonder if the Grizz had Gay.. I think they're playing much better without him to be honest.

northsider
05-01-2011, 01:52 PM
With the damn jumpers OKC!!!

LionsFan..LOL
05-01-2011, 01:52 PM
OKC can't get anything to fall right now

AI4MVP
05-01-2011, 01:52 PM
not gunna lie. i just wanna see grizz vs lakers to see if memphis can do it

m26555
05-01-2011, 01:52 PM
Wow. lol.

Baller1
05-01-2011, 01:52 PM
Here is one difference between Westbrook and Rose that hurts Russell. Neither are very good distributors, and both end up with the ball late in the clock many times. Why does Westbrook, with that athletic ability, not attack the rim full speed like Rose does instead of settling for a 17 footer?

Russell, you are stronger than Conley. Go to the rim

I've been wanting to tell them that for a while.

Punk
05-01-2011, 01:52 PM
:laugh:

Young

Avenged
05-01-2011, 01:52 PM
Up 15.

Sadds The Gr8
05-01-2011, 01:52 PM
I wonder if the Grizz had Gay.. I think they're playing much better without him to be honest.

they're better without Gay.

Crackadalic
05-01-2011, 01:52 PM
Everything is falling for Memphis

LionsFan..LOL
05-01-2011, 01:52 PM
Wow bank shot by Young

lakers4sho
05-01-2011, 01:52 PM
Memphis is a gritty team that fights for every possession. I like it.

Slimsim
05-01-2011, 01:53 PM
Seriously Durant needs to average 40 points to win this series

allSUAVE
05-01-2011, 01:53 PM
If OKC win this series they are going to the finals, they went through the toughest First and second round in the playoffs

m26555
05-01-2011, 01:53 PM
Randolph is an animal.

Punk
05-01-2011, 01:53 PM
Randolph is unreal :laugh2:

LionsFan..LOL
05-01-2011, 01:53 PM
Z-Bo wide open triple!

210Don
05-01-2011, 01:53 PM
haaaaaahaaaaa

lakers4sho
05-01-2011, 01:53 PM
lol Zbo quiets the crowd

Hangtime
05-01-2011, 01:53 PM
OMG!!!!!!Is this really happening

Ecko72jc
05-01-2011, 01:53 PM
I repeat

again

Hawkeye15
05-01-2011, 01:53 PM
Memphis is playing like a team of destiny haha. Its unreal how each and every one of them is stepping up this post season.

LakersIn5
05-01-2011, 01:53 PM
ZBO with the 3!

Crackadalic
05-01-2011, 01:53 PM
When Z-bo is sh*@ing on you from 3 you know your gonna have a long game lol

Slimsim
05-01-2011, 01:53 PM
ZBo with a three

northsider
05-01-2011, 01:54 PM
hahah the ****ing Grizzlies are executing at an insane pace and to help they are hitting some ridiculous shots.

tredigs
05-01-2011, 01:54 PM
Hah EVERYTHING is falling for Memphis. Unsustainable, but this is making for a good show.

Cubs Win
05-01-2011, 01:54 PM
OKC gettin' smoked! :speechless:

Baller1
05-01-2011, 01:54 PM
Um... Now this is just luck leading the Grizz at this point.

Fadeaway 20 foot bank shot? Z-Bo for 3? Jesus Christ.

Lakerhead4ever
05-01-2011, 01:54 PM
Lmao this is funny as hell.

THE GRIZZLIES HUSTLED US HAHAH

Metal Militia
05-01-2011, 01:54 PM
I love watching this Memphis Grizzlies team play. They are so much fun to watch. They play a team game.

lakers4sho
05-01-2011, 01:55 PM
If OKC win this series they are going to the finals, they went through the toughest First and second round in the playoffs

:laugh2:


I like Memphis, but let's not get over ourselves here.

210Don
05-01-2011, 01:55 PM
i just want to see the grizz beat the lakers would be so satisfying.... like a fresh coke

JB0B0
05-01-2011, 01:55 PM
Memphis!!!! Yeah!!!!!

Teeboy1487
05-01-2011, 01:55 PM
Memphis is on Cloud 9 right now. The thunder need to just keep this respectable going into the half.

LakersIn5
05-01-2011, 01:55 PM
grizzlies will win the championship and become the cinderella team of history

Baller1
05-01-2011, 01:56 PM
And just to clear up what I said...

Memphis is playing amazing ball, I didn't mean to make that sound like an excuse.

king4day
05-01-2011, 01:56 PM
I can't believe I'm starting to believe this Grizzlies team could win a championship.

A Lakers/Griz WCF would be incredible. Battle of the Gasols

Brooks had nothing to say to the Thunder in that break. Just stating the obvious. He's just as dumbfounded.

Ecko72jc
05-01-2011, 01:56 PM
Um... Now this is just luck leading the Grizz at this point.

Fadeaway 20 foot bank shot? Z-Bo for 3? Jesus Christ.

Westbrooks chucking, lack of defense or PG skills has lead to this not luck.

LTBaByyy
05-01-2011, 01:56 PM
i think they're overrated too

Thank you!!!!!!!

Cause when you are down like this, this is when you throw it to your guy in the post and start getting fouls to go to the FT line and they dont have that so they are just throwing alley oops and shooting their way back in it and thats not gonna get you to the finals

Ex: the rest of the PF's in the playoffs (Dirk, Z Bo, Pau, Bosh, Horford, Boozer, and Garnett)

They need to make Ibaka their 6th man and go get an offensive PF

You should have 2 defensive players in the line up at the MOST!

They have 3 guys, which are standing around setting picks while 0 and 35 shoot or go to the hole

Ibaka and Perkins is the same production offensively and defensively which will hurt them

Iron24th
05-01-2011, 01:57 PM
Um... Now this is just luck leading the Grizz at this point.

Fadeaway 20 foot bank shot? Z-Bo for 3? Jesus Christ.

Even without it,they are dominant in defense,this is not luck.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
05-01-2011, 01:57 PM
wow memphis is for real

Avenged
05-01-2011, 01:57 PM
Um... Now this is just luck leading the Grizz at this point.

Fadeaway 20 foot bank shot? Z-Bo for 3? Jesus Christ.

Not luck at all. This team if for real, you guys are in for a tough series.

LakersIn5
05-01-2011, 01:57 PM
LOL at the zbo haters before saying that he is a blackhole. zbo tonight is +16. memphis lead by 16. nuff said

Baller1
05-01-2011, 01:58 PM
I can't believe you people are calling Westbrook a ballhog :laugh2:

Is he never gonna be forgiven for that game 4? Damn.

210Don
05-01-2011, 01:58 PM
memphis d is too good...

Punk
05-01-2011, 01:58 PM
Conley > Westbrook

k.smith904
05-01-2011, 01:58 PM
Westbrook CLEARLY >>>> Rose

lol

m26555
05-01-2011, 01:58 PM
Nice move by Sefolosha.

northsider
05-01-2011, 01:59 PM
Come on man with the TO's.

Only player I really don't like on Mem is Allen.

lakers4sho
05-01-2011, 01:59 PM
Refs

Crackadalic
05-01-2011, 01:59 PM
OKC problem is their playing way to fast. that doesn't work in the playoffs when the game is slowed down and executing is crucial every possession

Ecko72jc
05-01-2011, 01:59 PM
Westbrooks chucking, lack of defense or PG skills has lead to this not luck.

I repeat

Hawkeye15
05-01-2011, 01:59 PM
While I hope the Mavs smoke the Lakers, how awesome would it be to see the Gasol brothers going at it in the playoffs?

Baller1
05-01-2011, 01:59 PM
I can't believe I'm starting to believe this Grizzlies team could win a championship.

A Lakers/Griz WCF would be incredible. Battle of the Gasols

Brooks had nothing to say to the Thunder in that break. Just stating the obvious. He's just as dumbfounded.

Brooks isn't dumbfounded, he's just a terrible coach.

LionsFan..LOL
05-01-2011, 01:59 PM
3 misses by Westbrook and then gets the foul

lakers4sho
05-01-2011, 01:59 PM
God Grizzlies don't let go now...

Iron24th
05-01-2011, 01:59 PM
BS call lol

mzgrizz
05-01-2011, 02:00 PM
I've been wanting to tell them that for a while.

Well, don't tell him now.........wait about a week !:)

Slimsim
05-01-2011, 02:00 PM
OKC will be bailed out by the refs

k.smith904
05-01-2011, 02:00 PM
finally the refs with the assist.

LTBaByyy
05-01-2011, 02:00 PM
Westbrook stop shooting and control the game!!!!!!!!!!!!

Westbrook needs to be OKC's SG and go get a passing PG the way they are playing

northsider
05-01-2011, 02:00 PM
wow memphis is for real

hahah nice sig.

flclfanman
05-01-2011, 02:00 PM
Memphis is throwing a m.wrench in that "fated" LA vs. OKC WCF mathup

poleandreel
05-01-2011, 02:00 PM
Westbrooks chucking, lack of defense or PG skills has lead to this not luck.

you are obviously not a thunder fan. You are a bandwagon *******. Westbrook is 6-10 with 15 points in the first half. One of his shots were a layup that was 1/2 way in. He isn't playing bad and if you watched him the entire year like I have, you would know that is how he plays and it has worked all year.

He is hustling his *** off on the boards. The enitre thunder team is not playing defense and seem like they are not taking this game seriously bc it is the grizz and they are at home.

Expect them to make a run and stfu about westbrook. We wouldn't be here without him

210Don
05-01-2011, 02:00 PM
grizz doing to the thunder what they did to us.... every shot is so difficult.

allSUAVE
05-01-2011, 02:01 PM
Westbrook CLEARLY >>>> Rose

lol

:laugh:

Hellcrooner
05-01-2011, 02:01 PM
thunder getting exposed.

JB0B0
05-01-2011, 02:01 PM
I can't believe you people are calling Westbrook a ballhog :laugh2:

Is he never gonna be forgiven for that game 4? Damn.

Your sig is ridiculous. Do you honestly think Westbrook is better than Rose? :facepalm:

Sadds The Gr8
05-01-2011, 02:01 PM
Thank you!!!!!!!

Cause when you are down like this, this is when you throw it to your guy in the post and start getting fouls to go to the FT line and they dont have that so they are just throwing alley oops and shooting their way back in it and thats not gonna get you to the finals

Ex: the rest of the PF's in the playoffs (Dirk, Z Bo, Pau, Bosh, Horford, Boozer, and Garnett)

They need to make Ibaka their 6th man and go get an offensive PF

You should have 2 defensive players in the line up at the MOST!

They have 3 guys, which are standing around setting picks while 0 and 35 shoot or go to the hole

Ibaka and Perkins is the same production offensively and defensively which will hurt them

nah i think they should keep ibaka as starter and make him work on his offensive game. his sick defense is too valuable to just be a bench player. his offense is coming along. if he can get from 13-16 ppg in the next couple years, he'll be fine.

Chacarron
05-01-2011, 02:01 PM
Westbrook is not a PG.

Ecko72jc
05-01-2011, 02:01 PM
Westbrook stop shooting and control the game!!!!!!!!!!!!

Westbrook needs to be OKC's SG and go get a passing PG the way they are playing

Westbrook isn't a PG.

northsider
05-01-2011, 02:02 PM
Very impressed with Memphis but, I would like to see when this team isn't hitting every shot how they perform.

Baller1
05-01-2011, 02:02 PM
Westbrooks chucking, lack of defense or PG skills has lead to this not luck.


Even without it,they are dominant in defense,this is not luck.


Not luck at all. This team if for real, you guys are in for a tough series.


Relax guys, I know:



And just to clear up what I said...

Memphis is playing amazing ball, I didn't mean to make that sound like an excuse.

MrBigShotBWill
05-01-2011, 02:02 PM
Been telling everyone Z-Bo was the real deal since his Blazer days...

Hellcrooner
05-01-2011, 02:02 PM
Marc Vs Ibabka is really being a balanced fight for team spains starting spot this summer

Avenged
05-01-2011, 02:02 PM
That's a ******** call.

YoungOne
05-01-2011, 02:02 PM
westbrook out of control...

...again