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SteBO
04-23-2011, 08:32 PM
Round 1, Game 4:



(3-0)http://www.rotoworld.com/img/NBA/teams/logos/MIA.png..........http://www.rotoworld.com/img/NBA/teams/logos/PHI.png(0-3)




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Date: April 24, 2011
Time: 1:00 EST
Location: Wells Fargo Center, PHI
Television: ABC



PROJECTED STARTING LINEUPS




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Bibby - Wade - James - Bosh - Ilgauskas



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http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/jrue_holiday.jpg http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/jodie_meeks.jpg http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/andre_iguodala.jpg http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/elton_brand.jpg http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/spencer_hawes.jpg
Holiday - Meeks - Iguodala - Brand - Hawes



BENCHES



Miami


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Philadelphia


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Series Team Leaders

Miami Heat Philadelphia 76ers

Points LeBron James- 24.7 Jrue Holiday- 17.0
Rebounds LeBron James- 12.0 Elton Brand- 8.3
Assists LeBron James- 5.7 Andre Iguodala- 8.7
Steals Chris Bosh- 1.3 Jrue Holiday- 2.0
Blocks Joel Anthony- 1.7 Elton Brand- 1.0



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Heat-76ers Preview

By DAN GELSTON
Posted Apr 20 2011 4:15PM
PHILADELPHIA (AP) Chris Bosh can't wait to see Philadelphia at its best.

No, not the 76ers.

Miami already survived the Sixers' top effort in Game 1 and held on for the victory.

Bosh wants to absorb the atmosphere at a hostile court like in Philly - from the rowdy fans in the rare full house dressed in matching T-shirts, to the pyrotechnics, and a new pregame video that incorporates live performance elements.

"I'm sure they'll be ready. They have a reputation, so I expect them to really own up to it," Bosh said. "We've prepared ourselves. We just have to go in there with thick skin like we always have and let the opposing boos really, really motivate us."

Oh, boy. Just what the Heat need is more motivation.

The Heat beat the 76ers in a close Game 1 and destroyed them in Game 2.

LeBron James is healthy. So is Bosh. Dwyane Wade says he's "good to go" after dealing with migraine symptoms.

So unless the trio all come down with some sort of mystery ailment that puts them on the bench for Thursday's Game 3, the Sixers are still in serious trouble. Home court or not.

"We've bounced back, we've shown resiliency," Sixers coach Doug Collins said. "I think for our guys, if they could just come out and see the ball in the basket, it would be such a lift for us."

The Sixers are viewed as little more than a speed bump on Miami's way to the Eastern Conference semifinals.

The Heat have said all the right things. The playoffs don't start until a team wins on the road. The Philly fans are some of the toughest around. No game is harder to win than Game 3.

Give the Heat credit, they believe in good sportsmanship.

The Heat are likely among the few people not wearing a Philadelphia 76ers uniform who won't concede that this 2-0 lead in the Eastern Conference playoff series is Miami's to lose.

Collins said his team remains upbeat. But unless they can find a way to shut down James, Wade, and Bosh at the same time, the odds of winning a game remain uphill.

"In Game 3, I think their will is at stake here," Bosh said. "They're going to come out fighting, they're going to come out really swinging, especially with that home energy behind them.

The Sixers won 26 home games this year - one less than their overall total from a year ago. The Heat haven't flinched as the NBA's top touring act. They led the East and tied for the NBA lead with 28 road victories.

Talent always finds a way to win out over location.

Win Games 3 and 4 in Philly and the series is over.

The Sixers have adopted "showyaluv" as their season slogan. The Heat are ready to "showdabroom."

"If I came up here and said, 'We're trying to win one,' then people would look at us crazy," James said. "We're trying to win both, but Game 3 is the most important one."

The Sixers had a surprise guest at Thursday's practice: Chairman Ed Snider, who founded the Flyers, arrived to applause in his team sweats. He watched practice and chatted with Collins before leaving for a scheduled 4 p.m. flight to watch the Flyers play Game 4 of their playoff series in Buffalo.

"We've got a really good organization now, the best we've had in 15 years," Snider said.

That starts at the top with team president Rod Thorn, general manager Ed Stefanski, and Collins. Collins, who refused to take credit for the Sixers turnaround, thrust himself into contention for coach of the year honors.

He took a Sixers roster that made only minor changes from last year's 27-win roster and turned them into a 41-win playoff team.

The Sixers, though, have a roster full of really nice players. Most teams would love to have Lou Wiliams, Thaddeus Young and Andre Iguodala. They're just not the type of franchise players a team can build a title contender around.

In other words, they're not The Big 3.

If the Sixers are going to contend against Miami, Boston and Orlando, they'll have to find that LeBron-esque superstar.

"We've gone to 41. Now 41 to 50 is another jump," Collins said. "To go plus-14 is big. To go plus-nine is huge. You can't do that by contracting. You've got to do that by adding. Sometimes you can add by subtracting. But eventually you've got to add by adding. We're at a point now where we've got add by adding."

But that time is not now.

"We can't push fast forward," Collins said. "It doesn't work that way."

The Sixers did not boast of "you've got to believe" comebacks or sell a fanbase on "anything can happen." They respect the Heat too much and know - as Collins said after Game 2 - the Heat are the better team.

They'd like to simply start small with one win at home.


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Mr. Baller
04-23-2011, 08:35 PM
Mike Miller isn't even on the bench :laugh: Hopefully we don't sleep tomorrow like Chicago did today

Chi StateOfMind
04-23-2011, 08:36 PM
Miami sweeps them tomorrow...Sixers just dont have the firepower to hang

SteBO
04-23-2011, 08:50 PM
Mike Miller isn't even on the bench :laugh: Hopefully we don't sleep tomorrow like Chicago did today
:laugh2: He won't be much of a factor this year, so might as well shut him down.

dnewguy
04-23-2011, 09:05 PM
We got extra brooms from Chicago's fans today.......either we use it or pass it to the Celtics. I am not that confident after the Pacers win today, Philly may just play their Hearts out.

justinnum1
04-23-2011, 09:07 PM
If miami wants this win, they will get this win. Lets see how bad they want it.

ManRam
04-23-2011, 09:11 PM
http://syaple.mlblogs.com/brooms.jpg


I like Philly, but not this year. They're getting close. Hopefully they win one, but I just don't see it.

dnewguy
04-23-2011, 09:16 PM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_eqZKRQlNyeU/TBHBEz3PIbI/AAAAAAAAABA/G6KU_zmZIag/s1600/nija-broom.jpg

Chacarron
04-23-2011, 10:23 PM
I say Philly takes this one, but after the last game I'm not very confident in my prediction.

Cano4prez
04-23-2011, 10:38 PM
Again I think Philly will take one at home, they'll play their hearts out

CHANGO
04-23-2011, 10:44 PM
The HEAT will win. And use all available brooms.

Chi StateOfMind
04-23-2011, 11:35 PM
What's the deal with Udonis Haslem? Is he going to play at all this series or playoffs??

P-O-Z
04-23-2011, 11:39 PM
What's the deal with Udonis Haslem? Is he going to play at all this series or playoffs??

Hopefully next round .

GoatMilk
04-23-2011, 11:45 PM
i want to say Philly, but they simply dont have enough fire power
sweep

Wade>You
04-23-2011, 11:50 PM
I voted for the Sixers to win. Chicago set off a chain reaction and no team will sweep.

HuRRiCaNeS324
04-24-2011, 01:17 AM
:puke: Our bench looks horrific. Cant wait to touch that up during the offseason.

Heater4life
04-24-2011, 01:26 AM
Lets get rid of Philly and get some needed rest. The Heat need to come out focused.

John Walls Era
04-24-2011, 01:27 AM
:yawn: Heat by 1 million

The Flash
04-24-2011, 01:31 AM
are they going to rest or bring the series back to Miami where they could make more money

AllBall
04-24-2011, 01:50 AM
Escoba!!!

Heater4life
04-24-2011, 01:54 AM
Escoba!!!

Y de las grandes!!!! Las que se usan para barrer factoria!!!!!!

Baller1
04-24-2011, 02:11 AM
Sweep.

TylerSL
04-24-2011, 03:48 AM
I voted Miami because I think if we come to take care of buisness we will win, but I am not sure if we do. If we kinda just come out with no entensity or anything Philly could take this one.

championships
04-24-2011, 04:04 AM
It's really hard to close out teams and if Philly has any pride, They will give it their all to escape from getting swept. I still don't think it will be enough though. Sixers just don't have answers or talent to beat this Heat team.

Avenged
04-24-2011, 04:39 AM
Going Heat but Philly might have some fight left in them to steal 1.. Either way, doubt it. Get ready to plan your vacation trips.

bholly
04-24-2011, 05:57 AM
Philly win the next two.

/optimistic homer prediction

dnewguy
04-24-2011, 09:37 AM
It's bad news for the away team when Joey Crawford and Dick Bavetta are both officiating the game....those guys are veterans in controlling who wins.

Watch Lebron get 2 quick fouls.

SteBO
04-24-2011, 09:39 AM
It's bad news for the away team when Joey Crawford and Dick Bavetta are both officiating the game....those guys are veterans in controlling who wins.

Watch Lebron get 2 quick fouls.
Just to about to mention this. Thank god Tony Brothers isn't the other official.

justinnum1
04-24-2011, 10:14 AM
I have a feeling our 3 pt shooters turn it on in this game. They sucked for the first 3 and philly will now pay all its attention to the big 3 and rebounding. I think miami gets 9 3's from role players.

X12Celtics3
04-24-2011, 10:30 AM
I want Philly to win, if only to tire out the Heat a bit, but Miami really should win.

SP17
04-24-2011, 10:35 AM
Heat will win this..series over..

~Iggy~
04-24-2011, 10:47 AM
Not an easy game in any way. Philly will be fired up. If we match their intensity this series will be over today.

Rivera
04-24-2011, 12:17 PM
sweep

marlinsfan24
04-24-2011, 12:20 PM
Heat will win and sweep the series, but I fully expect a strong fight from the Sixers.

KnicksR4Real
04-24-2011, 12:37 PM
Broom

Hellcrooner
04-24-2011, 12:40 PM
End of the path for Sixers.

cbreezy34
04-24-2011, 12:51 PM
As far as im concerned the sixers have been giving it there all, and are still not winning. They played real well last game and still lost. It sucks the Heat were the team given to the Sixers because they just have too much firepower and are playing the best theyve played all year. I honestly believe seeing the way the Bulls have played the pacers (horribly) we could have given the Bulls a real fight for their lives... and their the higher seed.

Khalifa21
04-24-2011, 12:52 PM
Get the broom out.

ManRam
04-24-2011, 01:02 PM
Doug Collins is so classy...

He has done such a good job this year too :clap:

Mr. Baller
04-24-2011, 01:02 PM
Here we go

Mr. Baller
04-24-2011, 01:03 PM
Nice shot by LeBron but I don't like that look for the first possession of a game

ManRam
04-24-2011, 01:05 PM
LeBron is gonna have a big game...

CHANGO
04-24-2011, 01:07 PM
I think that Lebron want the BROOMS...

allSUAVE
04-24-2011, 01:07 PM
Miami is going to broom Boston.

They are healthy and playing WELL!

Mr. Baller
04-24-2011, 01:07 PM
Bibby has been struggling all post season.

ManRam
04-24-2011, 01:07 PM
Well, if Bibby isn't making shots, he's 100% useless...

Right now he looks useless.

Mr. Baller
04-24-2011, 01:08 PM
What a pass by Jrue

ManRam
04-24-2011, 01:08 PM
Z is off to a terrible start too.

I like that Spo didn't use a TO there.

dnewguy
04-24-2011, 01:09 PM
Bibby and Big z have no business starting

dnewguy
04-24-2011, 01:09 PM
I hope this not our starting line-up for the Celtics.

ManRam
04-24-2011, 01:10 PM
Time for The Big Three to start shooting :shrug:

Z and Bibby not getting it done.

Ezio
04-24-2011, 01:10 PM
I hope this not our starting line-up for the Celtics.

Rondo is going to have a field day on Bibby.

CHANGO
04-24-2011, 01:11 PM
Joel and Chalmers please...

shizzle09
04-24-2011, 01:11 PM
Great freaking offensive strategy coming into the game. "get the ball to Big Z and Bibby". Wake up Spo.

allSUAVE
04-24-2011, 01:11 PM
Bibby and Big z have no business starting

I like them better than Mario and Dampier ,NO?

allSUAVE
04-24-2011, 01:13 PM
Doug Collins is my FAVORITE COACH Man

Mr. Baller
04-24-2011, 01:13 PM
I like them better than Mario and Dampier ,NO?

Damp doesn't play anymore it would be Joel.

ManRam
04-24-2011, 01:13 PM
Rondo is going to have a field day on Bibby.

I'd imagine Wade getting significant time on Rondo, and that the Heat let Bibby and the other PGs chase Allen off screens instead :shrug:

But yeah, whoever is going against Bibby is likely to have a field day.

ManRam
04-24-2011, 01:14 PM
Yikes...Philly has come to play today :clap:

Ezio
04-24-2011, 01:16 PM
I'd imagine Wade getting significant time on Rondo, and that the Heat let Bibby and the other PGs chase Allen off screens instead :shrug:

But yeah, whoever is going against Bibby is likely to have a field day.

I guess so.

Ezio
04-24-2011, 01:17 PM
Philly came to play.

allSUAVE
04-24-2011, 01:17 PM
Philly just Need that one superstar they have all the good roll playing pieces

dnewguy
04-24-2011, 01:18 PM
LOL.....i was right 2 quick Lebron fouls.

Punk
04-24-2011, 01:18 PM
8-23 :laugh:

ManRam
04-24-2011, 01:18 PM
Miami are missing a lot of shots near and at the rim...

Philly is shooting lights out.

Ezio
04-24-2011, 01:18 PM
Yikes.

dnewguy
04-24-2011, 01:19 PM
It's bad news for the away team when Joey Crawford and Dick Bavetta are both officiating the game....those guys are veterans in controlling who wins.

Watch Lebron get 2 quick fouls.

Hahahahahaha.............I knew this is how the game will turn out. They gave us the 2 experts at deciding who wins.

dnewguy
04-24-2011, 01:20 PM
No matter how hard we play, the winner has been decided.

ManRam
04-24-2011, 01:21 PM
LeBron got two quick fouls, but both were fouls, and the officiating has been fine.

Miami can't make a basket, Philly is sinking theirs. Refs can't control that.

I hate conspiracy theorists. Just realize that Philly is playing well, and Miami isn't.

Tha Truth
04-24-2011, 01:21 PM
Philly came out strong.

But it sucks because you know Miami is going to make a big run and there's nothing Philly can do about it.

Punk
04-24-2011, 01:22 PM
Iggy ruined that fastbreak

Punk
04-24-2011, 01:22 PM
Hahahahahaha.............I knew this is how the game will turn out. They gave us the 2 experts at deciding who wins.

:facepalm:

ChiTownPacerFan
04-24-2011, 01:23 PM
LeBron got two quick fouls, but both were fouls, and the officiating has been fine.

Miami can't make a basket, Philly is sinking theirs. Refs can't control that.

I hate conspiracy theorists. Just realize that Philly is playing well, and Miami isn't.

I'm no Lebron fan, but that second foul was egregious. If you can't see that "extend the series" officiating mode has been activated, then you aren't paying attention.

dnewguy
04-24-2011, 01:23 PM
LeBron got two quick fouls, but both were fouls, and the officiating has been fine.

Miami can't make a basket, Philly is sinking theirs. Refs can't control that.

I hate conspiracy theorists. Just realize that Philly is playing well, and Miami isn't.

LOL..........Is that why I knew Lebron will have two fouls an hour before tip off? Are you an NBA rookie.....you can tell what will most likely happen by officials for the game. Ticky tac fouls have no place in the play-off except for if there is a different agenda.

m26555
04-24-2011, 01:24 PM
Heat fans complaining about the refs? :laugh2:

dnewguy
04-24-2011, 01:24 PM
:facepalm:

Dude look back at my posts, how will I know that Lebron will catch 2 quick fouls? Dude I know what I am talking about.

dnewguy
04-24-2011, 01:26 PM
LOL......you guys watching this?

Ezio
04-24-2011, 01:26 PM
Heat seems to be passing up shots.

m26555
04-24-2011, 01:26 PM
LOL......you guys watching this?
Yeah. I'm watching Miami missing shots and Philadelphia making shots.

dnewguy
04-24-2011, 01:26 PM
LOLOLOLOL.............and people say the refs havent decided who wins this.

Ezio
04-24-2011, 01:27 PM
Turner :clap: I want to watch him play.

ManRam
04-24-2011, 01:27 PM
I'm no Lebron fan, but that second foul was egregious. If you can't see that "extend the series" officiating mode has been activated, then you aren't paying attention.

I am a LeBron fan, and he knocked a guy over :shrug:

LeBron getting two fouls isn't why this game is a 15 point game...

The ref-whining that goes on is just ridiculous. The Heat are getting outplayed. Period.

dnewguy
04-24-2011, 01:28 PM
Goal tending when no one even touched the ball......we getting mugged, no calls.

dnewguy
04-24-2011, 01:29 PM
This game is like the WWE, entertainment at it's best.

ChiTownPacerFan
04-24-2011, 01:30 PM
Hahahahahaha.............I knew this is how the game will turn out. They gave us the 2 experts at deciding who wins.

Honestly, having Dick Bevetta and Joey Crawford officiating this game is absurd. Do they think we don't notice? Does anyone not realize the exact though process of the league?

It's the transparency that pisses me off. They don't even attempt to be subtle or clever. It's just so insulting to the fans.

dnewguy
04-24-2011, 01:31 PM
David Stern to Refs: Keep a close eye on Lebron and make sure you dont call any fouls for WADE. That's the game plan.

ABOMB_56
04-24-2011, 01:32 PM
David Stern to Refs: Keep a close eye on Lebron and make sure you dont call any fouls for WADE. That's the game plan.

Jesus Christ, just shut up already. I like the Heat, but your whining about the game is making me root for the Sixers.

dnewguy
04-24-2011, 01:33 PM
They are mugging us.

Scarified
04-24-2011, 01:33 PM
You guys are right, this is one big conspiracy to make the Heat fail. The refs have so much power over this game that they have the ability to actually make Heat players miss easy shots :rolleyes:

Ezio
04-24-2011, 01:34 PM
Turner is on Lebron?

ManRam
04-24-2011, 01:35 PM
They are mugging us.

Seriously, be quiet. It's annoying.

The Heat are playing like ****, and Philly is playing great. The fouls called have been fair and even. This is a 14 point game regardless of who is officiating. The Heat can't hit a shot, Dick isn't making that happen. The fouls called have been too minimal to impact a game.

Punk
04-24-2011, 01:35 PM
:laugh:

I guess refs force a team to miss shots too.

krazylegz
04-24-2011, 01:35 PM
silly heat fans

NYKalltheway
04-24-2011, 01:35 PM
This game is like the WWE, entertainment at it's best.

the whole NBA has been like this beginning from your 1st and only championship season ;)

ChitownSports16
04-24-2011, 01:36 PM
Iggy hit a 3????

Ezio
04-24-2011, 01:36 PM
Oh yeah this game is so fixed

ManRam
04-24-2011, 01:37 PM
Getting chippy!


I think Dick Bavetta moved the out of bounds line in a few inches on that play...

Punk
04-24-2011, 01:37 PM
Jones is a ******. Turner played great defense, no need to push Turner.

ChitownSports16
04-24-2011, 01:37 PM
turner would kill Jones!!!

Ezio
04-24-2011, 01:38 PM
Turner is so fun to watch.

Punk
04-24-2011, 01:38 PM
Turner just owned LeBron....should have been an offensive foul :laugh:

ABOMB_56
04-24-2011, 01:38 PM
What a move by Turner.

dnewguy
04-24-2011, 01:38 PM
The refs giving this punks a pass...Turner just 4kin travelled. OMFG

ManRam
04-24-2011, 01:38 PM
If this was fixed, that would have been 3 on LeBron...but any unbias observer is aware it isn't fixed.

Philly is just playing perfect basketball, and Miami is not.

allSUAVE
04-24-2011, 01:38 PM
Everybody hate the Heat.

They going to have a brawl with some team in the playoffs

dnewguy
04-24-2011, 01:39 PM
What a move by Turner.

See, you a hater. It's a move when you hate the team, it's a travel when you are not biased.

ChiTownPacerFan
04-24-2011, 01:39 PM
Yeah. I'm watching Miami missing shots and Philadelphia making shots.

This can be a result of officiating as much as free-throw or foul disparity. When a team doesn't get any calls in the paint, as Miami didn't in the early going, they start to settle for bad jumpshots. This can lead to transition hoops for the other team.

I don't think people realize how much the officials can set the tone for a game. You really have to pay attention. You can't just look at foul differential. The officials can establish certain things in a game to influence how a team plays. The best way the officials can slow down Miami is to allow Philly to be extremely physical in the paint. Giving to quick cheap fouls to LeBron isn't going to help either.

Call me a cynic if you want, but I've been watching these tactics for so long, and it's so obvious, I think I'm just a realist. Oh, and btw, that doesn't mean the Heat CAN'T win this game.

NYK BaLLaS
04-24-2011, 01:39 PM
Philly came out strong.

But it sucks because you know Miami is going to make a big run and there's nothing Philly can do about it.

this

roshan3ai
04-24-2011, 01:39 PM
Philly just can't miss. They are outplaying Miami. The refs aren't the reason for Miami's poor play.

shizzle09
04-24-2011, 01:39 PM
We look like poop.

SMH!
04-24-2011, 01:39 PM
Great move by ET!! And fixed man? Us philly fans should be argueing about fix.. check out the fouls in game 1, check out the phantom fouls last game.. man we dont complain, just keep on watching and hope your team pulls through!

dnewguy
04-24-2011, 01:40 PM
This can be a result of officiating as much as free-throw or foul disparity. When a team doesn't get any calls in the paint, as Miami didn't in the early going, they start to settle for bad jumpshots. This can lead to transition hoops for the other team.

I don't think people realize how much the officials can set the tone for a game. You really have to pay attention. You can't just look at foul differential. The officials can establish certain things in a game to influence how a team plays. The best way the officials can slow down Miami is to allow Philly to be extremely physical in the paint. Giving to quick cheap fouls to LeBron isn't going to help either.

Call me a cynic if you want, but I've been watching these tactics for so long, and it's so obvious, I think I'm just a realist. Oh, and btw, that doesn't mean the Heat CAN'T win this game.

Dude don't waste your time explaining to this fools.......they know.

Tha Truth
04-24-2011, 01:40 PM
I love the fight I'm seeing from Philly. They are playing with a lot of heart.

And to the Heat fans saying this game is rigged...:facepalm:

Don't take anything away from Philly. They are playing well and the Heat are struggling right now.

The refs are being the refs.

ChitownSports16
04-24-2011, 01:40 PM
anyone think the Pacers would take the Heat to 7?

SeoulBeatz
04-24-2011, 01:40 PM
The heat had 2 fouls TOTAL CALLED ON THE BIG 3 FOR THE ENTIRE GAME LAST TIME WE PLAYED.

are you seriously complaining about the refs? that's insane.

marlinsfan24
04-24-2011, 01:42 PM
Down 14. We got this.

k.smith904
04-24-2011, 01:42 PM
lebron seriously travels every time I see him with the ball. :facepalm:

NYKalltheway
04-24-2011, 01:42 PM
If this was fixed, that would have been 3 on LeBron...but any unbias observer is aware it isn't fixed.

Philly is just playing perfect basketball, and Miami is not.

plus Miami is used to getting 10000 calls go their favor day in day out and this is not the case today, so they whine about not getting "their" calls.. pathetic really. Stern's fault for spoiling them

Punk
04-24-2011, 01:42 PM
23-37 lol

ManRam
04-24-2011, 01:42 PM
This can be a result of officiating as much as free-throw or foul disparity. When a team doesn't get any calls in the paint, as Miami didn't in the early going, they start to settle for bad jumpshots. This can lead to transition hoops for the other team.

I don't think people realize how much the officials can set the tone for a game. You really have to pay attention. You can't just look at foul differential. The officials can establish certain things in a game to influence how a team plays. The best way the officials can slow down Miami is to allow Philly to be extremely physical in the paint. Giving to quick cheap fouls to LeBron isn't going to help either.

Call me a cynic if you want, but I've been watching these tactics for so long, and it's so obvious, I think I'm just a realist. Oh, and btw, that doesn't mean the Heat CAN'T win this game.

They called 9 fouls total this game; 4 on Miami and 5 on Philly.

Yeah, that sure is setting the tone ;)

FT disparity? You mean how Miami has shot one more FT?

Come on. Philly is playing great and Miami isn't. The refs aren't dictating an iota of this game.

NYKalltheway
04-24-2011, 01:43 PM
lebron seriously travels every time I see him with the ball. :facepalm:

what's new? :laugh:

TheRunKiller
04-24-2011, 01:43 PM
it's hard to sweep a team

marlinsfan24
04-24-2011, 01:43 PM
Sixers are playing great right now.

ChiTownPacerFan
04-24-2011, 01:44 PM
anyone think the Pacers would take the Heat to 7?

We did play them well in the regular season, but no. Maybe 6...maybe. This Heat team is playing much better than they did for the majority of the regular season. Heat-Bulls is going to be one of those epic seven game classic series, though.

ManRam
04-24-2011, 01:44 PM
plus Miami is used to getting 10000 calls go their favor day in day out and this is not the case today, so they whine about not getting "their" calls.. pathetic really. Stern's fault for spoiling them

I don't buy that crap either. They aren't getting calls because LeBron, Wade and Bosh aren't attacking the rim like they normally do. They haven't shown any semblance of aggression...

You guys act like Stern hovers of the game like a all-controlling God and pulls every string. He doesn't...

NYKalltheway
04-24-2011, 01:44 PM
gotta love Iggy

allSUAVE
04-24-2011, 01:44 PM
anyone think the Pacers would take the Heat to 7?

Hell no Philly is a better team than the pacers

gotoHcarolina52
04-24-2011, 01:44 PM
Philly is shooting 55.2% (62.5% from 3)

Miami is shooting 32.1% (25% from 3)

TheRunKiller
04-24-2011, 01:44 PM
Sixers are playing great right now.

where the hell was this in game 2 & 3?

gotoHcarolina52
04-24-2011, 01:45 PM
11point game

ManRam
04-24-2011, 01:45 PM
Miami making a run...good defense turning into good offense!

NYKalltheway
04-24-2011, 01:45 PM
how many Heat fans at the stadium??

k.smith904
04-24-2011, 01:45 PM
here comes the meltdown.

bet the heat are up by half.

k.smith904
04-24-2011, 01:46 PM
Hell no Philly is a better team than the pacers

no.

marlinsfan24
04-24-2011, 01:46 PM
Down 11.

NYKalltheway
04-24-2011, 01:46 PM
Miami making a run...good defense turning into good offense!

tell that to D'Antoni :facepalm:

Anyone sees the miracle coming from the Sixers? Some Knicks fans are hoping we can do that to the Celtics(no team has managed to win a 7 game series being 3-0 down) but I see the Sixers having better chances than us :p

TheRunKiller
04-24-2011, 01:46 PM
how many Heat fans at the stadium??

probably wagon hoppers like the ones that show up in miami

gotoHcarolina52
04-24-2011, 01:47 PM
here comes the meltdown.

bet the heat are up by half.

trying to jinx the Heat :p

allSUAVE
04-24-2011, 01:47 PM
no.

Yes they are

ChiTownPacerFan
04-24-2011, 01:48 PM
They called 9 fouls total this game; 4 on Miami and 5 on Philly.

Yeah, that sure is setting the tone ;)

FT disparity? You mean how Miami has shot one more FT?

Come on. Philly is playing great and Miami isn't. The refs aren't dictating an iota of this game.

Your reading comprehension grade for the day is an F-. I said DON'T look at free-throw or foul disparity. Not all fouls are created equally, and not no-calls don't show up in the box score. There were three or four plays in the first few minutes where Miami players got hacked down low and there were zero whistles. This is how the officials established the tone.

It is painfully obvious they had an agenda going into this game. "Don't give the heat any calls in the interior, and force them to be a perimeter team." Seriously, the league/officials gameplan some of these games as much as the coaches.

marlinsfan24
04-24-2011, 01:48 PM
where the hell was this in game 2 & 3?

?

CHANGO
04-24-2011, 01:49 PM
Lmao

gotoHcarolina52
04-24-2011, 01:49 PM
probably wagon hoppers like the ones that show up in miami

Doesn't matter if you just jumped on the wagon in July, or have been riding with us since 1988, we love all Heat fans . . . though perhaps not equally.

k.smith904
04-24-2011, 01:49 PM
Yes they are

well I guess that settles it.

roshan3ai
04-24-2011, 01:49 PM
Here comes Miami

NYKalltheway
04-24-2011, 01:49 PM
how did Brand just miss that?

ManRam
04-24-2011, 01:49 PM
Your reading comprehension grade for the day is an F-. I said DON'T look at free-throw or foul disparity. Not all fouls are created equally, and not no-calls don't show up in the box score. There were three or four plays in the first few minutes where Miami players got hacked down low and there were zero whistles. This is how the officials established the tone.

It is painfully obvious they had an agenda going into this game. "Don't give the heat any calls in the interior, and force them to be a perimeter team." Seriously, the league/officials gameplan some of these games as much as the coaches.

Fair enough. You did say that...(I'll admit, I read one paragraph then it got redundant, so I misinterpreted that).

I'm just not seeing how it's possible to dictate a game if the refs are letting them play? Sure, LeBron got two quick fouls, but they were getting waxed even when he was on the court.

The refs haven't influenced this game at all. It's been really well-officiated.

Ezio
04-24-2011, 01:49 PM
Heres that run.

gotoHcarolina52
04-24-2011, 01:50 PM
6 point lead

Gators123
04-24-2011, 01:50 PM
oh ****

k.smith904
04-24-2011, 01:50 PM
yeah the sixers are clearly better.

marlinsfan24
04-24-2011, 01:50 PM
4-point game!

Punk
04-24-2011, 01:50 PM
No foul?

ManRam
04-24-2011, 01:50 PM
Heat making shots? Why on Earth are the refs letting this happen??? :laugh:


Great defense = Great offense. This is now a clinic on that concept.

ABOMB_56
04-24-2011, 01:50 PM
Didn't you hear a whistle?

Duddy
04-24-2011, 01:50 PM
Holy **** WTF was that streak?

NYKalltheway
04-24-2011, 01:50 PM
4pt game!! Heat intensity in defense or Sixers 'relaxing' in offense?

allSUAVE
04-24-2011, 01:50 PM
well I guess that settles it.

Is this Kenny Smith im talking to?

CHANGO
04-24-2011, 01:50 PM
No foul C'MON! In the ****ing leg!

Ezio
04-24-2011, 01:51 PM
Philly is panicking.

ManRam
04-24-2011, 01:51 PM
He actually wasn't fouled there. I thought for sure he was...but that second replay was really clear. Lost his balance I guess. He didn't even get him in the lower body.

Gators123
04-24-2011, 01:51 PM
MVP right there.

Arch Stanton
04-24-2011, 01:51 PM
See, you a hater. It's a move when you hate the team, it's a travel when you are not biased.

I wonder how much whinning dnewguy will do when the Heat play the Celtics.

SMH!
04-24-2011, 01:51 PM
Damn this game must be rigged if heat are making a comeback!! lmao

ABOMB_56
04-24-2011, 01:51 PM
I swear I heard a whistle after LBJ's dunk...

gotoHcarolina52
04-24-2011, 01:51 PM
well that turned around pretty quickly

Cano4prez
04-24-2011, 01:51 PM
Heat making shots? Why on Earth are the refs letting this happen??? :laugh:


Great defense = Great offense. This is now a clinic on that concept.

:laugh2:

NYKalltheway
04-24-2011, 01:51 PM
No foul C'MON! In the ****ing leg!

how is that a foul???

ManRam
04-24-2011, 01:51 PM
I guess he did get the leg...but LeBron kicked the leg out.

Tha Truth
04-24-2011, 01:52 PM
Philly came out strong.

But it sucks because you know Miami is going to make a big run and there's nothing Philly can do about it.

Like I said.

justinnum1
04-24-2011, 01:52 PM
miami waking up

Ezio
04-24-2011, 01:52 PM
Need to slow down the pace.

NYKalltheway
04-24-2011, 01:52 PM
get those brooms out

ABOMB_56
04-24-2011, 01:53 PM
Wade's feeling it

ChiTownPacerFan
04-24-2011, 01:53 PM
Fair enough. You did say that...(I'll admit, I read one paragraph then it got redundant, so I misinterpreted that).

I'm just not seeing how it's possible to dictate a game if the refs are letting them play? Sure, LeBron got two quick fouls, but they were getting waxed even when he was on the court.

The refs haven't influenced this game at all. It's been really well-officiated.

That's an illusion. What does that even mean? It's been consistently officiated? Well, that may be, but when it has been consistently officiated differently than every other game in the series, you can't call that good officiating.

Look, all I'm saying is that if the officials always allowed teams to be as physical as Philly was inside early in this game, while calling LeBron for every ticky-tack foul, Miami would be in a lot of trouble.

k.smith904
04-24-2011, 01:53 PM
I swear I heard a whistle after LBJ's dunk...

thats just the obligatory whistle after Lebron dunks.

They gather together analysts and referees alike, then determine if its gonna be #1 or #2 on ESPN Top 10 the following day.

CHANGO
04-24-2011, 01:54 PM
Wade is pissed with Brand... That's not good Philly... That's not good!

ABOMB_56
04-24-2011, 01:54 PM
Jrue got another behind the back move. Last time LBJ, this time D-Wade

k.smith904
04-24-2011, 01:54 PM
omg these refs are so clearly biased!!!!!

:facepalm:

Punk
04-24-2011, 01:54 PM
I remember the Knicks or Sixers thread when Sixer fans were telling me that role players and a bench wins and star power always doesn't....Boy, I wonder what he is thinking now lol

theheatles
04-24-2011, 01:54 PM
lol worst thing that could have happened for the sixers was iguodala getting off to a fast start...now he's going to keep shooting

ABOMB_56
04-24-2011, 01:54 PM
thats just the obligatory whistle after Lebron dunks.

They gather together analysts and referees alike, then determine if its gonna be #1 or #2 on ESPN Top 10 the following day.

:up: Great bait attempt!

Ezio
04-24-2011, 01:55 PM
Tied game. That was fast. Philly can't handle a run.

shizzle09
04-24-2011, 01:55 PM
how is that a foul???

its really quite simple. you cant undercut a player driving to the hoop.

dnewguy
04-24-2011, 01:55 PM
thats just the obligatory whistle after lebron dunks.

they gather together analysts and referees alike, then determine if its gonna be #1 or #2 on espn top 10 the following day.

:p

ManRam
04-24-2011, 01:55 PM
I really like how Miami is playing now. Frenetic defense, great transition offense, and bumping up the tempo.

Are the refs the one dictating that ;) Are they "letting them play".

I'll let the ref talk go...but it was just that preposterous.

HuRRiCaNeS324
04-24-2011, 01:55 PM
Finally we wake the **** up!!! LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!

CHANGO
04-24-2011, 01:55 PM
He actually wasn't fouled there. I thought for sure he was...but that second replay was really clear. Lost his balance I guess. He didn't even get him in the lower body.

You saw the other replay? From another angle it is clear that there was contact.

shizzle09
04-24-2011, 01:55 PM
how quickly things change and the haters crawl in holes.

ABOMB_56
04-24-2011, 01:56 PM
18-2 run in the past 4:30 minutes. Sometimes I wonder why the Heat just can't start a game with this urgency

Arch Stanton
04-24-2011, 01:56 PM
I guess the refs are helping the Heat now right Heat fans.

dnewguy
04-24-2011, 01:56 PM
Dick Bavetta look surprised.

NYKalltheway
04-24-2011, 01:56 PM
I remember the Knicks or Sixers thread when Sixer fans were telling me that role players and a bench wins and star power always doesn't....Boy, I wonder what he is thinking now lol

In the real basketball world, that's true.

In the NBA, that's definitely not the case... le$$ $ale$

justinnum1
04-24-2011, 01:56 PM
chalmers playing well

allSUAVE
04-24-2011, 01:57 PM
MIAMI BULLS ECF ! Cant wait for that one

NYKalltheway
04-24-2011, 01:57 PM
its really quite simple. you cant undercut a player driving to the hoop.

So kicking a player while you're dunking/going for layup is a foul for you? I'll do that more often when I play with some friends

dnewguy
04-24-2011, 01:57 PM
18-2 run in the past 4:30 minutes. Sometimes I wonder why the Heat just can't start a game with this urgency

Big Z and Bibby are slower than the Sixers. They will be good against a team like the Celtics.

CHANGO
04-24-2011, 01:58 PM
I guess the refs are helping the Heat now right Heat fans.

YES! :clap:

gotoHcarolina52
04-24-2011, 01:58 PM
I am now enjoying this game :up:

k.smith904
04-24-2011, 01:58 PM
I guess the refs are helping the Heat now right Heat fans.

that's their job.

Give the Big 3 calls.

And not just one call, not two, not three, not four...

ChiTownPacerFan
04-24-2011, 01:58 PM
I really like how Miami is playing now. Frenetic defense, great transition offense, and bumping up the tempo.

Are the refs the one dictating that ;) Are they "letting them play".

I'll let the ref talk go...but it was just that preposterous.

I said earlier, the Heat could still win this games. They have done a great job of adjusting to the game, and they are clearly the far far superior team. That doesn't change the fact that the officials came out with the mindset to benefit the Sixers in the most obvious way imaginable.

gotoHcarolina52
04-24-2011, 01:59 PM
The lead is ours

k.smith904
04-24-2011, 01:59 PM
damn philly is either red hot or ice cold.

HuRRiCaNeS324
04-24-2011, 01:59 PM
Wade is on fire

ManRam
04-24-2011, 01:59 PM
that's their job.

Give the Big 3 calls.

And not just one call, not two, not three, not four...

You're being as ridiculous as the people whining about the refs favoring Philly.

Name me one call where the Big Three got a beneficial call that wasn't deserved? There hasn't been one.


I just wish people could focus on the teams, and not be so preoccupied with the refs.

Gators123
04-24-2011, 01:59 PM
Damn!

HuRRiCaNeS324
04-24-2011, 01:59 PM
Whoa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ABOMB_56
04-24-2011, 01:59 PM
Wade to LBJ alley-oops are always on point

ManRam
04-24-2011, 01:59 PM
Wow.

That was crazy!

Even Sixer fans got excited.

gotoHcarolina52
04-24-2011, 01:59 PM
Our lead has increased.

Punk
04-24-2011, 01:59 PM
The Sixers are finished

Duddy
04-24-2011, 01:59 PM
Wow!

CHANGO
04-24-2011, 01:59 PM
I told ya. Wade is pissed ... That's not good! ****ing great alley-oop!

allSUAVE
04-24-2011, 02:00 PM
Watching 2K12 ON ABC 7

ABOMB_56
04-24-2011, 02:00 PM
So kicking a player while you're dunking/going for layup is a foul for you? I'll do that more often when I play with some friends

LBJ didn't kick out his leg. He just went up for a dunk after an awkward set up.

k.smith904
04-24-2011, 02:00 PM
You're being as ridiculous as the people whining about the refs favoring Philly.

Name me one call where the Big Three got a beneficial call that wasn't deserved? There hasn't been one.


I just wish people could focus on the teams, and not be so preoccupied with the refs.

I was being sarcastic. :facepalm:

Ezio
04-24-2011, 02:00 PM
Wade is on fire.

CHANGO
04-24-2011, 02:01 PM
****ing WADE is pissed! Take that Brand!

HuRRiCaNeS324
04-24-2011, 02:01 PM
LMAO!!! LETS GOOOOO. Wade is raping em now.

ABOMB_56
04-24-2011, 02:01 PM
Wade is enfuego!

ManRam
04-24-2011, 02:01 PM
I was being sarcastic. :facepalm:

Hard to tell...considering the team you root for ;)

Touche then.

I don't think you were being sarcastic though.

Cal827
04-24-2011, 02:01 PM
Wade's red hot, and nice alley-oop :clap:

theheatles
04-24-2011, 02:01 PM
the big 3 plus chalmers and joel is the deadliest unit in the entire NBA

ABOMB_56
04-24-2011, 02:01 PM
I was being sarcastic. :facepalm:

No you weren't. You've had at least 5 posts talking about the refs, LBJ getting star calls, and some other things along the same lines

ManRam
04-24-2011, 02:02 PM
Miami has 11 points off of Philly's 6 TOs...that's getting it done in the transition game.

Nice play from Wade. Wow.

justinnum1
04-24-2011, 02:02 PM
what a block

Luv Da New Pack
04-24-2011, 02:03 PM
Can you really give a team an inordinate amount of credit for their "D" when the opposition is playing stupidly?

It's like me defending someone who took the ball...dribbled it twice and then jumped out of bounds with it. How great was my "D"?

Ezio
04-24-2011, 02:03 PM
Turner smooth.

Cal827
04-24-2011, 02:03 PM
Nice Block

k.smith904
04-24-2011, 02:03 PM
i wonder if Bron can hit 3's when he's the only one in the stadium.

allSUAVE
04-24-2011, 02:03 PM
OKC v. MIAMI FINALS

k.smith904
04-24-2011, 02:03 PM
No you weren't. You've had at least 5 posts talking about the refs, LBJ getting star calls, and some other things along the same lines

ok guy.

tell me what number i'm thinking of then.

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

ManRam
04-24-2011, 02:04 PM
Can you really give a team an inordinate amount of credit for their "D" when the opposition is playing stupidly?

It's like me defending someone who took the ball...dribbled it twice and then jumped out of bounds with it. How great was my "D"?

They were doubling on the perimeter, forcing the 6ers to the side of the court, trapping them and getting in the passing lanes...

So yes, I can credit them :shrug:

k.smith904
04-24-2011, 02:04 PM
did i call it or did i call it?

heat lead at half.

Punk
04-24-2011, 02:04 PM
The Sixers are going nowhere if they have that much trouble scoring and looking for teammates.

CHANGO
04-24-2011, 02:05 PM
Can you really give a team an inordinate amount of credit for their "D" when the opposition is playing stupidly?

It's like me defending someone who took the ball...dribbled it twice and then jumped out of bounds with it. How great was my "D"?

:rolleyes:

Your D was ****ING GREAT! :clap:

ManRam
04-24-2011, 02:05 PM
I think this is over. Philly gave them their best run...they played flawlessly. It's all for naught now.

Cano4prez
04-24-2011, 02:05 PM
i wonder if Bron can hit 3's when he's the only one in the stadium.

He shoots the 3 better than Rose.

ABOMB_56
04-24-2011, 02:05 PM
i wonder if Bron can hit 3's when he's the only one in the stadium.

Funny, I was just thinking of asking you the same question about Rose..

HuRRiCaNeS324
04-24-2011, 02:06 PM
After that altercation is when we started the run i think. No surprise there....

CHANGO
04-24-2011, 02:06 PM
He shoots the 3 better than Rose.

:laugh::burn:

ABOMB_56
04-24-2011, 02:06 PM
ok guy.

tell me what number i'm thinking of then.

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

Don't whine and moan and use the facepalm when you get called out for baiting or taking shots at the Heat.

SMH!
04-24-2011, 02:06 PM
He shoots the 3 better than Rose.

lol nah id go with rose for 3 anyday over lebron

Gators123
04-24-2011, 02:06 PM
He shoots the 3 better than Rose.

I was thinking the same thing lol

Avenged
04-24-2011, 02:07 PM
Fatigue hit Philly. Heat extend it to double digits in the 2nd half.

k.smith904
04-24-2011, 02:07 PM
He shoots the 3 better than Rose.

LOL!

why does everything have to be about Rose?

its amazing you've all maintained your grip on his nuts for this long...


Edit: Rose .332 from 3

Lebron .330

suck a wang haters.

Tha Truth
04-24-2011, 02:07 PM
Lemme guess.

The refs are doing an excellent job now right? Smh

HuRRiCaNeS324
04-24-2011, 02:08 PM
All in favor for k.smith to GTFO?

Luv Da New Pack
04-24-2011, 02:09 PM
They were doubling on the perimeter, forcing the 6ers to the side of the court, trapping them and getting in the passing lanes...

So yes, I can credit them :shrug:

Is the trap a new defensive scheme? You mean to tell me that they have not practiced how to pass out of them or to come to the ball for an outlet?

What about the open driving lane that was offered out of a trap where the 6er' stood there and then decided on a jump shot that he missed?

Even out of a timeout you can't pass out of a 2 person trap?

justinnum1
04-24-2011, 02:09 PM
when joel anthony came in, we went on a 42-22 run