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topdog
04-16-2011, 04:22 PM
Watching the HEAT-Sixers game and at about the 6 minute mark they're reviewing whether a clear-path foul was committed on James which both JVG and Jackson say there is. My reaction seeing the replay was why wasn't it traveling on James? He takes at least a couple steps with control of the ball before he puts it down for a dribble. Is the traveling call extinct... at least for "superstars"?

Not hating (although I admittedly am not a fan). Also if anyone can find video later that would be appreciated (2nd quarter about 6 minutes left).

bulldog312
04-16-2011, 04:25 PM
It wasn't traveling because he didn't have control of the ball. They do miss a lot of travels though.

ChitownBears22
04-16-2011, 04:25 PM
Its hard to dribble the ball when you arms are being grabbed...thus why it was called a loose ball and not a clear path.

And to answer your question traveling is not longer called for anyone....not even scrubs.

Chronz
04-16-2011, 04:27 PM
Read the rules on traveling, that's why it wasnt called

Hawkeye15
04-16-2011, 04:27 PM
only if you're Luke Ridnour :)

nyanks79
04-16-2011, 04:44 PM
Its pathetic how bad traveling has got. Its almost as bad as charge/blocks. People just switch pivot foots and shuffle there feet and it never gets called.

gotoHcarolina52
04-16-2011, 04:47 PM
Original post translated: I hate LeBron too!!!! YAY!

josefrees
04-16-2011, 04:47 PM
The game would be boring with 50 turnovers a game.

smith&wesson
04-16-2011, 04:48 PM
knicks suck man, and gallo doesnt play for them anymore.

knicks are gonna be sick next year, you know it too.

josefrees
04-16-2011, 04:49 PM
And most referee are extremely fickle and unreliable.

njnets
04-16-2011, 05:11 PM
The game would be boring with 50 turnovers a game.

or they would be more organized. players would have to get used to refs actually calling travels.

they should call it more. i dont see why they dont, doesnt make sense to me.

NYKalltheway
04-16-2011, 05:21 PM
Its pathetic how bad traveling has got. Its almost as bad as charge/blocks. People just switch pivot foots and shuffle there feet and it never gets called.

It's so bad, they even have Top 10 highlights with dunks that came off travelling :facepalm: (NBA channel on youtube btw)

hotpotato1092
04-16-2011, 05:24 PM
Watching the HEAT-Sixers game and at about the 6 minute mark they're reviewing whether a clear-path foul was committed on James which both JVG and Jackson say there is. My reaction seeing the replay was why wasn't it traveling on James? He takes at least a couple steps with control of the ball before he puts it down for a dribble. Is the traveling call extinct... at least for "superstars"?

Not hating (although I admittedly am not a fan). Also if anyone can find video later that would be appreciated (2nd quarter about 6 minutes left).

I remember thinking the exact same thing on that call.

D-Will4Prez
04-16-2011, 05:58 PM
They don't even call traveling anymore unless it's done by a non-allstar at midcourt. Same thing with palming...I haven't seen a palming call in years.

Hangtime
04-16-2011, 06:09 PM
Patrick Ewing made a career out of traveling.

JC_
04-16-2011, 06:10 PM
they called travelling on Bosh later in the game didnt they?

Rego247
04-16-2011, 06:18 PM
depends on whos doing it.

Minimal
04-16-2011, 06:26 PM
I see travelling on almost every inbounds play when player gets the ball in his hands

Vikes_Fan_TC
04-16-2011, 06:39 PM
Its only called as a violation when one of Stern's favorites (Lebron, Kobe, Wade etc) are not involved in the play or it would impact their ability to win. Other teams have it called regularly against them.

Cano4prez
04-16-2011, 06:42 PM
They don't even call traveling anymore unless it's done by a non-allstar at midcourt. Same thing with palming...I haven't seen a palming call in years.

I saw one a week ago.

out of no where
04-16-2011, 06:46 PM
it gets more embarrasing when NBA players play international games, refs apply the rule as it is in the books !!

The Final Boss
04-16-2011, 10:23 PM
Lebron can't get to the cup without traveling. I wake up every morning with a smile on my face knowing Lebron got a day older, and a day closer to losing his athleticism. What happens then you ask? He becomes a scrub because the man has ZERO game without athleticism. Post- game? NOPE. Drive? NOPE. Defender? NOPE. Mid- range game? NOPE. Someone please embarrass yourself by arguing otherwise.

Cano4prez
04-16-2011, 10:47 PM
Lebron can't get to the cup without traveling. I wake up every morning with a smile on my face knowing Lebron got a day older, and a day closer to losing his athleticism. What happens then you ask? He becomes a scrub because the man has ZERO game without athleticism. Post- game? NOPE. Drive? NOPE. Defender? NOPE. Mid- range game? NOPE. Someone please embarrass yourself by arguing otherwise.

This is one of the worst posts i've seen on the NBA forum in a while.

1. Post game


James, mechanical though he can appear, has 160 post-up possessions to his name this season, shooting 52.4 percent, drawing a shooting foul 8.8 percent of the time and scoring at least a single point on over half the plays. Better yet, he scores 1.03 points per post-up, which ranks him 19th in the league.

That’s among all NBA players, not just small forwards or wing players.

For comparison’s sake, Bryant, in an offense built around versatile players who can operate in the post, has 300 post-ups, but he is ranked 39th in the league scoring 0.97 points per possession, while getting to the free-throw line 1.5 percent less. Effectively, for every 100 possessions, James scores six more points than Bryant.

Among other swingmen known for their post-up capabilities, Carmelo Anthony is 51st with .94 PPP in 274 post-ups, Joe Johnson 26th in 202 possessions (1.00 PPP) and Paul Pierce 10th at 1.13 PPP in 120 post-ups.

Yes, these qualify as advanced statistics, but before you shrug your shoulders, consider that these numbers are from SynergySports, which logs each possession in every game using the actual game film. So, by their very nature, the stats pass the eye test.

Oddly enough, James was marginally better in the post the previous season, when he was 14th in the league – higher if you set the qualifier to 150 post-ups – scoring 1.08 points per play in 152 possessions

http://www.nba.com/heat/news/evolution_post_game_110412.html

2. LeBron is a top tier defender, whether you want to admit or not

3. This year LeBron has been a great midrange shooter and is underrated actually


LeBron 10-15 ft: 44.7%
Carmelo 10-15 ft: 36.8%
Kobe: 51.5%
Rose: 42.0%

LeBron 16-23 ft: 45.0%
Carmelo 16-23 ft: 40.0%
Kobe: 38.0%
Rose: 38.0%


http://hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=LeBron%20James

http://hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=Carmelo%20Anthony

http://hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=Kobe%20Bryant

http://hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=Derrick%20Rose

championships
04-16-2011, 11:06 PM
I can't remember the last time that I've seen a traveling violation called on anyone.

championships
04-16-2011, 11:11 PM
This is one of the worst posts i've seen on the NBA forum in a while.

1. Post game



http://www.nba.com/heat/news/evolution_post_game_110412.html

2. LeBron is a top tier defender, whether you want to admit or not

3. This year LeBron has been a great midrange shooter and is underrated actually



http://hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=LeBron%20James

http://hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=Carmelo%20Anthony

http://hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=Kobe%20Bryant

http://hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=Derrick%20Rose

LMAO You guys get so sensitive when it comes to your Queen. :laugh2:

Reminds me of Cavs fans, Now they hate his guts.

Cano4prez
04-16-2011, 11:14 PM
I can't remember the last time that I've seen a traveling violation called on anyone.

Bosh was called for traveling today, and it wasn't the only traveling call



LMAO You guys get so sensitive when it comes to your Queen. :laugh2:

Reminds me of Cavs fans, Now they hate his guts.

I'm crying as we speak.

ChiTownPacerFan
04-16-2011, 11:17 PM
Sure they do. When D. Rose shoved Collison to the ground at the end of the first half today, for what would have been his third foul in the half, they called a traveling on DC. I'm a little bitter.

WHODAT8o8
04-16-2011, 11:45 PM
Yah, I just went to Europe yesterday. :eyebrow:

LayZbone
04-17-2011, 12:20 AM
Lebron can't get to the cup without traveling. I wake up every morning with a smile on my face knowing Lebron got a day older, and a day closer to losing his athleticism. What happens then you ask? He becomes a scrub because the man has ZERO game without athleticism. Post- game? NOPE. Drive? NOPE. Defender? NOPE. Mid- range game? NOPE. Someone please embarrass yourself by arguing otherwise.


This is one of the worst posts i've seen on the NBA forum in a while.

1. Post game



http://www.nba.com/heat/news/evolution_post_game_110412.html

2. LeBron is a top tier defender, whether you want to admit or not

3. This year LeBron has been a great midrange shooter and is underrated actually



http://hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=LeBron%20James

http://hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=Carmelo%20Anthony

http://hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=Kobe%20Bryant

http://hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=Derrick%20Rose

now that's embarassing. Good finds, Cano.

ryang
04-17-2011, 01:56 AM
Lebron can't get to the cup without traveling. I wake up every morning with a smile on my face knowing Lebron got a day older, and a day closer to losing his athleticism. What happens then you ask? He becomes a scrub because the man has ZERO game without athleticism. Post- game? NOPE. Drive? NOPE. Defender? NOPE. Mid- range game? NOPE. Someone please embarrass yourself by arguing otherwise.

name the best nba player ever without athleticism... woooow not sure but i think this comment was a joke....

Hellcrooner
04-17-2011, 03:17 AM
no it became extint during the 08 olympic final.

Hellcrooner
04-17-2011, 03:18 AM
name the best nba player ever without athleticism... woooow not sure but i think this comment was a joke....

george mikan.

John Walls Era
04-17-2011, 04:54 AM
I mean a ref can walk right next to the player who takes 8 steps and not say a single thing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr3NSjowE4Y

Minimal
04-17-2011, 04:56 AM
Welcome to NBA, Corey Maggette
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN_ljDfevB0

Shortys4711
04-17-2011, 05:05 AM
When ever I think of a bad non travel call I always think of this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D9Z1wAwQtM&feature=related