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b@llhog24
04-15-2011, 08:32 PM
Hey guys the regular season has ended and psd been looking a little slow so i decided to come up with a new thread.

So who do you think has the best court vison.

Here are some choices, off guys i think have great court vision in the nba today.

Chris Paul

Deron Williams

John Wall

Lebron James

Jason Kidd

Andre Miller (very underrated btw)

Steve Nash

Rajon Rondo

Jose Calderon

is there anyone else that I'm forgeting? Please add

Kashmir13579
04-15-2011, 09:08 PM
Why is Lebron on this list? c'mon. he's a good passer but not even close to Nash, Rondo, or CP3.

Chill_Will_24
04-15-2011, 09:16 PM
JKidd has eyes behind his head...

DenButsu
04-15-2011, 09:19 PM
This seems to basically be about PGs, but I really like Nene's vision for a big man.

As for the poll, hard not to go with Kidd or Nash for me.

John Walls Era
04-15-2011, 09:21 PM
Why is Lebron on this list? c'mon. he's a good passer but not even close to Nash, Rondo, or CP3.

If u can only name 3 people in front of Lebron... then he should be on the list.

John Walls Era
04-15-2011, 09:21 PM
For a rookie, John Wall's is amazing.

Hustlenomics
04-15-2011, 09:28 PM
it's definitely Rondo

NYK4L
04-15-2011, 09:32 PM
J.J. Barea :clap:

six
04-15-2011, 10:15 PM
is there anyone else that I'm forgeting? Please add

The MVP?

Lake_Show2416
04-15-2011, 10:27 PM
Steve Nash by a mile

mdm692
04-15-2011, 10:31 PM
If were comparing just vision then nash by a mile. . .the guy went left handed behind the back to grant hill in the corner right in his shootin pocket and around tim duncan for an underhand scoop to stat(links needed im on my phone). . .other pgs cant even see some of those players if they were wide open. . .

Now all time magic johnson has to be in the conversation

Redbull
04-15-2011, 10:33 PM
Steve Nash>>>>>Anyone else, I believe some people have forgotten how good he is.

mdm692
04-15-2011, 10:40 PM
Steve Nash>>>>>Anyone else, I believe some people have forgotten how good he is.

thx finally some respect for the guy 37 and still the league leader in apg. . .best passer in the game

BrizzleBear
04-15-2011, 10:40 PM
Kidd,Nash,CP3 the Rondo and LeBron.

lakers4sho
04-15-2011, 10:43 PM
Nash, followed by Jason Kidd.

The John Wall
04-15-2011, 10:44 PM
Steve Nash and Jason Kidd are at the top. And my last name has two L's.

Kobes a Killer
04-15-2011, 10:45 PM
Obviously it's Nash. Amare is gone he has no one and is still leading the league in assists per game, dude is amazing, dude needs a ring. If anyone should chase a ring, it's this guy

Shortys4711
04-15-2011, 10:45 PM
Nash by a mile. The guy is unbelievable

Whomewhome
04-15-2011, 10:46 PM
in his prime nobody came close to beating Kidd with the vision. Now I would pass the stick to Deron Williams. Maybe I am being a homer I just think they are the most natural at that element of finding the open man

bmd1101
04-15-2011, 10:49 PM
John Wall, he just doesnt know what to do with it yet. Any of you remember the predraft **** when he was makin blind passes at 8 and 4 oclock? He said he could see them but i'm just callin em blind. Right now though, Steve Nash is tops, but wall is up there he just needs more seasoning.

Chi City23
04-15-2011, 10:50 PM
Nash, nash and nash.. followed by Kidd :D

mdm692
04-15-2011, 10:55 PM
in his prime nobody came close to beating Kidd with the vision. Now I would pass the stick to Deron Williams. Maybe I am being a homer I just think they are the most natural at that element of finding the open man

im sorry not cuz im a nash fan or suns fan but really?? Not even some respect for the man whose led the league all but one year since he came to phoenix

Kobes a Killer
04-15-2011, 10:55 PM
LOL Jose Calderon?? Haha, he can rack up the assists lol but he does not belong in the conversation

Whomewhome
04-15-2011, 10:59 PM
im sorry not cuz im a nash fan or suns fan but really?? Not even some respect for the man whose led the league all but one year since he came to phoenix
If you were to rank them in their prime.

I would go: Kidd, Nash, Deron

Nash is a clear cut second. He won the MVP but then again Kidd deserved the MVP when the Nets went on their title run, but the league decided to give it to Tim Duncan!

juno10
04-15-2011, 11:14 PM
LOL Jose Calderon?? Haha, he can rack up the assists lol but he does not belong in the conversation

you call out calderon but not bron or miller ? calderon is one of the best pure passing pg's he just cant play any defense.

DQL
04-16-2011, 12:29 AM
I think a lot of you guys grossly overrate the assist stats. Some guys earn assists by just giving the ball to nearby teammates and let them create their own shots/jack up shots. That's why I think the NBA's stat-tracking is flawed as hell. Your teammate just needs to score within like 3 seconds after your pass so you can be credited with an assist.

Some players have great court vision but it doesn't always reflect on the stats. Lebron for example. He will lead the league in assists if sticking to passing the ball, but his primary job is to score and that's what he does best. In contrast, some players can't score by themselves so they earn their living by racking up assists (Calderon)

mdm692
04-16-2011, 12:31 AM
I think a lot of you guys grossly overrate the assist stats. Some guys earn assists by just giving the ball to nearby teammates and let them create their own shots/jack up shots. That's why I think the NBA's stat-tracking is flawed as hell. Your teammate just needs to score within like 3 seconds after your pass so you can be credited with an assist.

Some players have great court vision but it doesn't always reflect on the stats. Lebron for example. He will lead the league in assists if sticking to passing the ball, but his primary job is to score and that's what he does best. In contrast, some players can't score by themselves so they earn their living by racking up assists (Calderon)

like kidd playin with dirk and carter both in their prime. . .

b@llhog24
04-16-2011, 12:44 AM
Steve Nash and Jason Kidd are at the top. And my last name has two L's.

I know it was a typo.

DQL
04-16-2011, 12:47 AM
like kidd playin with dirk and carter both in their prime. . .

well Nash playing with a bunch of shooters in fast-paced offense's during his Phoenix days only helps (doesn't mean I discredit him)

IversonIsKrazy
04-16-2011, 12:51 AM
Nash followed by Kidd. But Nash no doubt, he made Gortat a 20/10 machine after the trade, Nash is amazing.

More-Than-Most
04-16-2011, 12:59 AM
Nash and there really isnt a discussion. All year long people underrated him severely while he still puts up top 5 point guard stats.

soonabooma
04-16-2011, 01:02 AM
Nash

hot_ball86
04-16-2011, 01:03 AM
its ash.. do you watch how we plays the offence? he is a headache for coaches.. as them!

Chi StateOfMind
04-16-2011, 01:03 AM
steve nash dude makes so many ppl look good its insane......i wish i can could play with him maybe i would go to ny and make 100 million too

jk knicks fans

sargon21
04-16-2011, 01:07 AM
looks like andre miller's getting a bit underrated

sunsfan88
04-16-2011, 03:29 AM
Steve Nash.

Everyone else is at least 100 miles behind him.

sunsfan88
04-16-2011, 03:31 AM
Nash and there really isnt a discussion. All year long people underrated him severely while he still puts up top 5 point guard stats.
#1 in assists baby!

kArSoN RyDaH
04-16-2011, 03:47 AM
I didn't even see Nash but definitely him first. THen I'd take Paul and Rondo over any other PG in terms of vision and passing abilities.

Lakerhead4ever
04-16-2011, 04:08 AM
Steve nash(), and ronda is a close second. lebron can possibly be 3rd.

Steve nash>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfmDmSBXw7U

buch88
04-16-2011, 04:38 AM
Someone said it best. Jason Kidd is the only player in NBA history that could take over an entire game without scoring a single point because his court vision is so great. His feel for the game and his teammates is a special ability that you have to be born with.

Lakerhead4ever
04-16-2011, 05:27 AM
Someone said it best. Jason Kidd is the only player in NBA history that could take over an entire game without scoring a single point because his court vision is so great. His feel for the game and his teammates is a special ability that you have to be born with.

Not underestimating his greatness because hes one if the greats, but whens the last time he took over a game without scoring? who has he made better on the mavs? he had a solid run with the nets for about 3 yrs but thats about it.

Steve nash made scrubs look great. beside amare, the suns were filled with a bunch mediocre players and got them to the west finals.

michigan2489
04-16-2011, 06:52 AM
1st, I have to with Steve Nash, and that's by a mile. He's been an assist machine the past few years, most people said the when Mrion left it would be hard for him to keep it up the Stat left and he kept it up. He's one of the very few pass first PG in the league, especially one that score at any time.

Now 2nd, 3rd, 4th: Rondo, CP3 and JKidd but I really can't say in what order, you guys can figure it out.

Minimal
04-16-2011, 07:08 AM
Nash, period.

I really like court vision of Chris Paul and LeBron also.

AllBall
04-16-2011, 07:09 AM
Nash and its not even close.

FadeAwayLikeMJ
04-16-2011, 09:34 AM
i voted Rondo for 2 reasons:

1) he is almost ALWAYS looking for the pass

2) im a slight homer ;)

tredigs
04-16-2011, 10:26 AM
Steve Nash>>>>>Anyone else, I believe some people have forgotten how good he is.

Without a doubt.

goose15
04-16-2011, 10:54 AM
Jason Kidd

theheatles
04-16-2011, 11:13 AM
i voted for LeBron even though i feel he's 2nd on the above list but because i know ppl are going to discredit LeBron so i had to show him love, but best court vision is nash hands down...i didn't bother voting for nash because i knew there would be plenty of people to defend him

TylerSL
04-16-2011, 11:15 AM
Nash easily.

Heediot
04-16-2011, 11:46 AM
Nash

next Paul, Kidd

knicks4life33
04-16-2011, 01:14 PM
its either kidd or nash. the passes i have seen kidd do are ridiculous and same as nash. nothing taken away from the other pgs but kidd has eyes behind his heads and nash is there with him

Rego247
04-16-2011, 01:26 PM
nash. for sure.

Lakers + Giants
04-16-2011, 01:38 PM
Nash has eyes on the back of his head

/thread

nigerianking
04-16-2011, 01:55 PM
Derek Fisher