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JasonJohnHorn
03-30-2011, 08:36 AM
I am a Raptors fan, and as such do not care for Jay Triano at all. We Raptor fans (and I believe this is an overwhelming concensus) belive the only reason he has a job is because he is Canadian and the franchise wanted somebody cheap and canadian to put on the face of the club on the bench.

so my question is this: When Triano loses his job (and he will), is ANY other team in the league even going to LOOK at the guy as a head coach possibility?

North Yorker
03-30-2011, 08:40 AM
Wasnt he a "valuable" part of the US National Team's coaching staff?

Im sure he will get a few looks, but most likely will end up being an assistant somewhere before he becomes a HC again

Indi23
03-30-2011, 08:48 AM
Apparently he is a great guy to have in your staff, so finding a job in the NBA won't be hard but getting a Head Coach job right after your fired won't happen.

Sadds The Gr8
03-30-2011, 08:49 AM
i've never seen u in the Raps forum =/

and no i don't think he'd get a head coaching job anywhere else.

Niro
03-30-2011, 08:53 AM
who

BALLER R
03-30-2011, 08:55 AM
i've never seen u in the raps forum =/

and no i don't think he'd get a head coaching job anywhere else.

+1

JasonJohnHorn
03-30-2011, 09:00 AM
I dont post in team forums too often... besides, I have nothing nice to say about the Raptors.... so being a fan I generally dont want to say much. By this team has just been on the decline since Triano came in (and Coangelo for that matter, but I know a lot of Rap fans actually still like him?!?!!?!?!!?!?). I was just wondering if anybody outside of Canada would even give this guy a look, and what the general opinion is of him throughout the league.

I think Mr. Niro summed it up best for me already.

Mile High Champ
03-30-2011, 09:01 AM
I disagree 100% with the original post.

pebloemer
03-30-2011, 09:04 AM
For a team that is projected to go bottom 2-3 in the league, isn't finishing bottom 4 amongst a barrage of injuries over-achieving?

It's hard to defend any coach that has his team playing to this record, but I can't understand how someone who I've never seen in the Raptor's forum can pretend to represent the whole so confidently.

pebloemer
03-30-2011, 09:09 AM
I am a Raptors fan, and as such do not care for Jay Triano at all. We Raptor fans (and I believe this is an overwhelming concensus) belive the only reason he has a job is because he is Canadian and the franchise wanted somebody cheap and canadian to put on the face of the club on the bench.


By this team has just been on the decline since Triano came in (and Coangelo for that matter, but I know a lot of Rap fans actually still like him?!?!!?!?!!?!?). I was just wondering if anybody outside of Canada would even give this guy a look, and what the general opinion is of him throughout the league.

I think Mr. Niro summed it up best for me already.

Your bolded comments contradict.

Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of people that want him out, but there are plenty of discussions that show multiple sides to the issue. There is no overwhelming consensus from Raptor's fans on this issue.

geraptor
03-30-2011, 09:22 AM
i've never seen u in the Raps forum =/

and no i don't think he'd get a head coaching job anywhere else.

this. where the **** did you get that "consensus opinion"?

FutureGM
03-30-2011, 03:43 PM
I am a Raptors fan, and as such do not care for Jay Triano at all. We Raptor fans (and I believe this is an overwhelming concensus) belive the only reason he has a job is because he is Canadian and the franchise wanted somebody cheap and canadian to put on the face of the club on the bench.

so my question is this: When Triano loses his job (and he will), is ANY other team in the league even going to LOOK at the guy as a head coach possibility?

LoL. As a Canadian I don't believe any of this.

Rego247
03-30-2011, 03:59 PM
I am a Raptors fan, and as such do not care for Jay Triano at all. We Raptor fans (and I believe this is an overwhelming concensus) belive the only reason he has a job is because he is Canadian and the franchise wanted somebody cheap and canadian to put on the face of the club on the bench.

so my question is this: When Triano loses his job (and he will), is ANY other team in the league even going to LOOK at the guy as a head coach possibility?

are u fried?

don't speak for us if u haven't even been posting in the forum regularly. if there is a "overwhelming" consensus, it is not for the reason u stated.

Rapthug
03-30-2011, 04:05 PM
The Raptors issues have zero to do with the head coach. With the injuries and lack of talent what would you expect?

The first one under the bus should be Colangelo.

Geargo Wallace
03-30-2011, 04:11 PM
I think the consensus in the Raps forum is that we don't know who the **** you are.

Rego247
03-30-2011, 04:15 PM
I think the consensus in the Raps forum is that we don't know who the **** you are.

tell emmm.

Sadds The Gr8
03-30-2011, 04:17 PM
I think the consensus in the Raps forum is that we don't know who the **** you are.

:laugh2:

Geargo Wallace
03-30-2011, 04:17 PM
tell emmm.

lil consensus making, half-assed thread making, bow-legged response making mawfugga...

heatking
03-30-2011, 04:19 PM
So the guy gotta post in the raptors forum to be a fan? Really???

Geargo Wallace
03-30-2011, 04:23 PM
So the guy gotta post in the raptors forum to be a fan? Really???

no but to make a consensus on behalf of Raps fans is something you shouldn't do unless you've discussed it with the fans in this particular forum nahhhh meaaaaaaaaan?

Rego247
03-30-2011, 04:24 PM
So the guy gotta post in the raptors forum to be a fan? Really???

no. but when u speak for the majority of raps fans, and say things like "overwhelming consensus" because he's a Canadian, we'd like to know who these ppl are, cuz its certainly not from our forum.

GeekInThePink
03-30-2011, 04:25 PM
As a Raptors fan, I don't like Jay Triano. That being said, he isn't the problem, the main problem in my opinion is Bryan Colangelo and lack of "star" power the Raptors have.

Geargo Wallace
03-30-2011, 04:27 PM
no. but when u speak for the majority of raps fans, and say things like "overwhelming consensus" because he's a Canadian, we'd like to know who these ppl are, cuz its certainly not from our forum.

Get EM

Car Ramrod
03-30-2011, 04:28 PM
The fact that he is Canadian and was part of the US olympic coaching staff on a team they had put together years in advance of the olympics should say something about his coaching abilities.

He is not a bad coach. The Raptors are just a bad team. They have lost a ton of games but they are rarely getting embarassed in those losses. Sports Illustrated actually had them only winning 14 games this year. I also think they would have won a few more if Reggie Evans wasn't hurt. Rebounds always get a team extra chances to score and he was their biggest force. Look at his first game back against OKC.

He will easily find another job and who is to say he won't be back next year. The players they are trying to build around like him and that matters alot more than someone in a chair swearing at the TV.

Sly Guy
03-30-2011, 05:03 PM
I think the consensus in the Raps forum is that we don't know who the **** you are.

lol.
welcome to the internetz.

Preacher
03-30-2011, 11:25 PM
Damn. I am a Raptors fan who has posted little in the Forum here. I post in the Cowboys Forum a lot, but not in the Raptors one. Why are you all attacking him? Yes, he might have seemed a bit presumptuous in assuming what the fans are thinking, but how is he far off?

In the Forum I have spent time in there is little support for Triano. It is either "We need a D specialist Coach that can teach this team what it looks like" or "Get a name Coach that can help us bring in talent during the rebuild" or (my camp) "The D'Antoni rumour is true and he needs to be reunited with BC to rebuild '7 Seconds Or Less in TO.' "

We have AB staggering through this year specializing in moments of brilliance and promise, mixed with the no help D and matador style defense that causes embolisms, depression and drinking. A TEAM that seems to not understand what NBA D even looks like. And a 60+ losing season almost guaranteed. Triano specializes in being the mastermind of this result. How many of you actually think bringing him back is good for the franchise?

Eagles4Lyfe
03-30-2011, 11:32 PM
Damn. I am a Raptors fan who has posted little in the Forum here. I post in the Cowboys Forum a lot, but not in the Raptors one. Why are you all attacking him? Yes, he might have seemed a bit presumptuous in assuming what the fans are thinking, but how is he far off?

In the Forum I have spent time in there is little support for Triano. It is either "We need a D specialist Coach that can teach this team what it looks like" or "Get a name Coach that can help us bring in talent during the rebuild" or (my camp) "The D'Antoni rumour is true and he needs to be reunited with BC to rebuild '7 Seconds Or Less in TO.' "

We have AB staggering through this year specializing in moments of brilliance and promise, mixed with the no help D and matador style defense that causes embolisms, depression and drinking. A TEAM that seems to not understand what NBA D even looks like. And a 60+ losing season almost guaranteed. Triano specializes in being the mastermind of this result. How many of you actually think bringing him back is good for the franchise?

your the same guy who said newman is better than revis you lost all credibility after that.. Everyone in the NFL forum remembers your antics but i never knew you were a raptors fan if you are then wow is all i can say

Rego247
03-30-2011, 11:46 PM
Damn. I am a Raptors fan who has posted little in the Forum here. I post in the Cowboys Forum a lot, but not in the Raptors one. Why are you all attacking him? Yes, he might have seemed a bit presumptuous in assuming what the fans are thinking, but how is he far off?

In the Forum I have spent time in there is little support for Triano. It is either "We need a D specialist Coach that can teach this team what it looks like" or "Get a name Coach that can help us bring in talent during the rebuild" or (my camp) "The D'Antoni rumour is true and he needs to be reunited with BC to rebuild '7 Seconds Or Less in TO.' "

We have AB staggering through this year specializing in moments of brilliance and promise, mixed with the no help D and matador style defense that causes embolisms, depression and drinking. A TEAM that seems to not understand what NBA D even looks like. And a 60+ losing season almost guaranteed. Triano specializes in being the mastermind of this result. How many of you actually think bringing him back is good for the franchise?

are any of these mentioned by the op? no. had he said jay triano was a **** coach because of the reasons you've given i'd be okay with it. but to make it seem there is an "overwhelming consensus" who believe triano has a job because he is 1. cheap 2. canadian is ********.

MrfadeawayJB
03-30-2011, 11:53 PM
lol @ Raptors forum being so dysfunctional.....at least people regularly post in there

Preacher
03-30-2011, 11:55 PM
are any of these mentioned by the op? no. had he said jay triano was a **** coach because of the reasons you've given i'd be okay with it. but to make it seem there is an "overwhelming consensus" who believe triano has a job because he is 1. cheap 2. canadian is ********.I'll easily agree with that.

Preacher
03-31-2011, 12:01 AM
your the same guy who said newman is better than revis you lost all credibility after that.. Everyone in the NFL forum remembers your antics but i never knew you were a raptors fan if you are then wow is all i can sayI did not say that.

JasonJohnHorn
03-31-2011, 09:36 AM
Look, I'm a Raptors fan, have been since they came into the league. I am more a fan of the game (I just like watching good basketball), and I've talked with a lot of Raptors fans IN PERSON (yes, some people talk face to face, not just online), and I have read posts in the forums and on the NBA forum, and Triano sucking does seem to be the general consensus, and has been since he came. Sam Mitchell had the team in the playoffs, Triano took over a playoff team and with A LOT of help from Colangelo, turned a promising team into a league cellar dwellar. They went from 41 wins, to 33, up to 40 (and not a play off team) and now they are at 20. Does 20 wins have something to do with losing Bosh? Hell yeah. Did Mitchell get canned for no good reason and have the reigns turned over to man who shouldnt have been given a headcoaching job? Yeah. Mitchell was ONE game under .500, he got fired, and Triano went on to lose FIFTEEN GAMES MORE THAN HE GOT WINS THAT SEASON!!!

The fact of the matter is, the only reason he has a job is because he's cheap, and he's Canadian. If the dude was American, he wouldnt have his job. And as a fan I dont think having a token Canuck on the sidelines that cant win cuts it. And yes, the fans I've talked to feel the same way.

Colanglo though, I've heard mixed reviews, though anybody with half a brain can see the guy ranks up there with Isiah Thomas.

Bottom line, regardless if I'm a "real fan" or not, is this: Would any other team even LOOK at the guy when he gets fired? If you think the answer is no, then there is no reason we should even have the guy on the sidelines. Does this team lack talent? Has it had injuries? Yeah, but it HAD talent, and the fact Triano could keep a playoff team in the playoffs is a big reason why that talent has gone!

gwrighter
03-31-2011, 11:35 AM
Look, I'm a Raptors fan, have been since they came into the league. I am more a fan of the game (I just like watching good basketball), and I've talked with a lot of Raptors fans IN PERSON (yes, some people talk face to face, not just online), and I have read posts in the forums and on the NBA forum, and Triano sucking does seem to be the general consensus, and has been since he came. Sam Mitchell had the team in the playoffs, Triano took over a playoff team and with A LOT of help from Colangelo, turned a promising team into a league cellar dwellar. They went from 41 wins, to 33, up to 40 (and not a play off team) and now they are at 20. Does 20 wins have something to do with losing Bosh? Hell yeah. Did Mitchell get canned for no good reason and have the reigns turned over to man who shouldnt have been given a headcoaching job? Yeah. Mitchell was ONE game under .500, he got fired, and Triano went on to lose FIFTEEN GAMES MORE THAN HE GOT WINS THAT SEASON!!!

The fact of the matter is, the only reason he has a job is because he's cheap, and he's Canadian. If the dude was American, he wouldnt have his job. And as a fan I dont think having a token Canuck on the sidelines that cant win cuts it. And yes, the fans I've talked to feel the same way.

Colanglo though, I've heard mixed reviews, though anybody with half a brain can see the guy ranks up there with Isiah Thomas.

Bottom line, regardless if I'm a "real fan" or not, is this: Would any other team even LOOK at the guy when he gets fired? If you think the answer is no, then there is no reason we should even have the guy on the sidelines. Does this team lack talent? Has it had injuries? Yeah, but it HAD talent, and the fact Triano could keep a playoff team in the playoffs is a big reason why that talent has gone!

Sam mitchell was also benching the #1 draft pick of 2006 though. which does not sit well with the GM.

I agree though, from our perspective, i nave no idea why mitchell was fired, i assume it's because he wasn't adhering to Bco's plan.

pretty much. Jay is a patsy right now. He will do whatever bryan colangelo wants in terms of distributing minutes and development. Also, like you said he's canadian and it sells.

Let's be honest though. when you're a GM you have to take a bunch of variables into account that go unseen by the public (us). Also, you can't necessarily make moves in the short run personell wise unless you are an established team like the Mavs.

Jay Triano is the perfect solution in the short run. cheap, canadian, fairly good ball IQ, good at developing players. but in the long run he is not the solution. In the long run he is not the coach of the raptors but during this development process he is.

once the team looks promising enough, coaches along with players will begin to take notice of the improved situation and then we can move forward from there with a new coach. but until then, whats the point of paying another vet coach 5-7 mil a season to coach a losing team.

Revisiting 2009-2010 season, the raptors had 30 wins going into the AS weekend which puts them on a trend line to win 50 games. post all-star the team went on a slump, how much of that was because of bosh "checking out"? no one will know for certain but triano was doing the right thing up to the AS break which shows that he is competent.

todu82
03-31-2011, 12:41 PM
Yeah, can't see him getting another chance at being a NBA head coach. I still question why Toronto hired him in the first place.

smith&wesson
03-31-2011, 01:00 PM
first of all i dont know if triano will get fired. thats a bad assumption. management is well aware of the rebuild process and is not expecting 40 wins out of this team this year.

if he did get fired, he would get a job as an assistant somewhere first before getting a head choach gig... thats not to say he would never become a head coach again. he is the assistant to Mike Krzyzewski for the USA national team that gives him at least some respect around the league.

triano is a better coach then he gets credit for. look at the raptors this year, how much of theyre win/loss colum can really be blamed on coaching ?