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Rapsjaysleafs
03-24-2011, 07:26 PM
Pretty straight forward.
Use this year only.

PG - Steve Nash
SG- Monta Ellis
SF - Hedo Turkoglu
PF - Chris Bosh
C - Andrea Bargnani

6th man - Jose Calderon

Wow Way to go Raptors and Future Raptors!!

j-mart
03-24-2011, 08:07 PM
Bosh is definitely on the list...here is the exhibit A.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0m-bdlGD64

-Kobe24-TJ19-
03-24-2011, 08:09 PM
bosh isn't the greatest defender but he's good.

HuRRiCaNeS324
03-24-2011, 08:12 PM
There are worse defenders at the PF position than Bosh, you guys are ridiculous. Boozer, for example, is one.

bovice163
03-24-2011, 08:13 PM
Jamal Crawford at SG

Raps08-09 Champ
03-24-2011, 08:18 PM
C-Bargnani
F-?
F-Turkoglu
G-Nash
G-Calderon

Can't really think of anyone for the other F spot ATM.

Rapsjaysleafs
03-24-2011, 08:26 PM
C-Bargnani
F-?
F-Turkoglu
G-Nash
G-Calderon

Can't really think of anyone for the other F spot ATM.

Try it in the format
PG
Sg
SF
PF
C

Instead of the actual format they use. It makes it a bit trickier.

arkanian215
03-24-2011, 08:29 PM
PF Troy Murphy
SF Travis Outlaw
SG Sasha Vujacic

FuriousJatt
03-24-2011, 08:29 PM
vlad rad, hedo, dirk, bargnani, nash, amare, melo, most of the players on kings and grizzlies.

Rndy
03-24-2011, 08:30 PM
There are worse defenders at the PF position than Bosh, you guys are ridiculous. Boozer, for example, is one.

Neither are good but If I had to chose i'd take the one who could rebound. Amare is pretty much on par with them but even Amare can block shots. Bosh doesn't have a lot of look on the bright side to him defensively.

Flash3
03-24-2011, 08:32 PM
Neither are good but If I had to chose i'd take the one who could rebound. Amare is pretty much on par with them but even Amare can block shots. Bosh doesn't have a lot of look on the bright side to him defensively.

but bosh is a good defender

Minimal
03-24-2011, 08:33 PM
PG - Jose Calderon
SG - Kevin Martin
SF - Corey Maggette
PF - Antawn Jamison
C - Andrea Bargnani

Cano4prez
03-24-2011, 08:33 PM
Put Boozer or Amare for PF and your good

Rapsjaysleafs
03-24-2011, 08:33 PM
PF Troy Murphy
SF Travis Outlaw
SG Sasha Vujacic

C - Bargs
PF -Troy Murphy
SF - Outlaw
SG - Sasha
PG - Calderon

HAHAHA Nets + Raps = Best Game England Has Ever Seen!

-Kobe24-TJ19-
03-24-2011, 08:39 PM
PF Troy Murphy
SF Travis Outlaw
SG Sasha Vujacic

don't think so:shrug:

asandhu23
03-24-2011, 08:48 PM
Monta doesn't belong up. He is one of the leaders in steals and has been since his rookie year. He is not "defense less"

mrblisterdundee
03-24-2011, 08:51 PM
PG - Jose Calderon
SG - Monta Ellis
SF - Carmello Anthony
PF - David Lee
C - Andrea Bargnani

Coach - Mike D'Antoni
GM - Bryan Colangelo/Steve Kerr

Rapsjaysleafs
03-24-2011, 08:54 PM
PG - Jose Calderon
SG - Monta Ellis
SF - Carmello Anthony
PF - David Lee
C - Andrea Bargnani

Coach - Mike D'Antoni
GM - Bryan Colangelo/Steve Kerr

Sorry man but Hedo is a billion times worse than Carmelo. I would not even call Melo a bad defender to be honest.
At least David Lee rebounds the ball.

Also is Calderon Worse than Nash? I had them SO CLOSE

JNA17
03-24-2011, 08:54 PM
PG: Steve Nash
SG: Kevin Martin
SF: Hedo Turq
PF: David Lee
C: Nenad Kristic

mrblisterdundee
03-24-2011, 08:55 PM
Sorry man but Hedo is a billion times worse than Carmelo. I would not even call Melo a bad defender to be honest.
At least David Lee rebounds the ball.

Also is Calderon Worse than Nash? I had them SO CLOSE

I just included Carmello because of how epically the New York trade is failing. I laugh every time they cry.

White Mamba 24
03-24-2011, 09:16 PM
Pretty straight forward.
Use this year only.

PG - Steve Nash
SG- Monta Ellis
SF - Hedo Turkoglu
PF - dirk
C - Andrea Bargnani

6th man - Jose Calderon

Wow Way to go Raptors and Future Raptors!!

fixed

MaHaRaJaH
03-24-2011, 09:16 PM
:laugh2:

BKdoubleStacker
03-24-2011, 09:17 PM
**** get the out

NJ Raven
03-24-2011, 09:17 PM
Monta doesn't belong up. He is one of the leaders in steals and has been since his rookie year. He is not "defense less"

Getting steals doesn't excuse you from being a bad defender.

Pittz
03-24-2011, 09:20 PM
The spambot conversation is incredibly insightful.

asandhu23
03-24-2011, 09:22 PM
Getting steals doesn't excuse you from being a bad defender.

... yeah but steals are a form of defense. he is not "defenseless".

Bulls_fan90
03-24-2011, 09:28 PM
Bibby
Ben Gordon
Turk
Bosh
Bargs

Giraffes Rule
03-24-2011, 09:33 PM
... yeah but steals are a form of defense. he is not "defenseless".

Name one starting shooting guard that belongs on this list instead then.

asandhu23
03-24-2011, 09:34 PM
Name one starting shooting guard that belongs on this list instead then.

Kevin Martin

DoJoTheSlasher
03-24-2011, 09:40 PM
but bosh is a good defender

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

NJ Raven
03-24-2011, 09:42 PM
... yeah but steals are a form of defense. he is not "defenseless".

Defenseless is an awful term. Ellis is a bad defender. He's not the worst defender at his position but he's down there.

kimchi'sworld
03-24-2011, 09:46 PM
pg: Nash
sg: Ben Gordon
sm: Turkoglu
pf: Boozer
C: Nend Kristic

Chronz
03-24-2011, 09:55 PM
Bosh doesnt deserve to be anywhere near this list

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DodgerBulls
03-24-2011, 10:06 PM
Kevin Martin

I have to agree with this.

Voodoo Alchemy
03-24-2011, 10:07 PM
nash d > amare d. but they both suck

Rapsjaysleafs
03-24-2011, 10:17 PM
Alright so let's try and agree on a team
Everyone I would say Agrees that the starting C is Bargs.
Would most people agree Turf is the worst SF?
Would is worse Nash or Calderon?

The PF and SG are a bit trickier.
Ben Gordon or Kevin Martin?

PF ??

Gilly1254
03-24-2011, 10:28 PM
PG- Jameer
SG- J-Rich
SF- Hedo
6th man- Gilbert Arenas

j-mart
03-24-2011, 10:30 PM
I watched Bosh play for 7 years. He can't defend.

Rapsjaysleafs
03-24-2011, 10:37 PM
Was just about the say the EXACT same thing.

No one watched him play very much in Toronto. We did. Nearly every game.

The only time I saw him try on D was right after the Redeem Team. That was for a month maybe.

The_Jamal
03-24-2011, 10:44 PM
Name one starting shooting guard that belongs on this list instead then.

Kevin Martin

Rapsjaysleafs
03-24-2011, 10:45 PM
PG- Jameer
SG- J-Rich
SF- Hedo
6th man- Gilbert Arenas

You can take away Howard and replace him with your worst defender and you guys still are nothing compared to The Raps. And we acquired a very good young defender in Johnson and we still are brutal.

Chronz
03-24-2011, 10:53 PM
I watched Bosh play for 7 years. He can't defend.

You saw Bosh as a teen or his developing years then you saw him play alongside Bargs/Calderon in a poor defensive system, even in Toronto Bosh put up nice #'s in isolation defense and on the boards. What he cant do is defend against big bodies in the post but hes very good at rotating and recovering if hes not expected to be the anchor.

Lets put it this way, Amare, Booz and Bosh are similar all around defenders with different strengths. Amare has the size to play some 5 and can defend the post better and block some shots, still what Amare is better than Bosh at isnt elite, hes not an elite post defender or weakside helper he lets players get deep and relies on his ups to recover a lost play and he sucks on the glass. Whereas Bosh is nimble and intelligent enough to know how to rotate and recover and knows how to adequately hedge PnR and can stay in front of the ball. At PF Bosh is a superior defender than Amare because he has a skillset you can scheme around. Ive never seen Amare play the kind of defense Bosh has displayed on a consistent basis.

Boozer has no real strength aside from defensive rebounding, hes not long, hes not tall, hes pretty strong but he doesnt give much effort pushing players off the blocks.

Hellcrooner
03-24-2011, 11:00 PM
Zach Randolph

Raph12
03-24-2011, 11:06 PM
Magic roster, minus Dwight Howard...

Chronz
03-24-2011, 11:15 PM
Calderon makes Nash look like Gary Payton


Zach Randolph
You watch alot of Memphis games right. Any idea why their defense has become top10 caliber?

Panthers4life
03-24-2011, 11:28 PM
jose calderon
monta ellis
carmelo anthony
hedo turkoglu
andrea barngani

6th man antwan jamison

godolphins
03-24-2011, 11:31 PM
No Derrick Rose? :D

Hellcrooner
03-24-2011, 11:43 PM
Calderon makes Nash look like Gary Payton


You watch alot of Memphis games right. Any idea why their defense has become top10 caliber?

Because of TONY ALLEN.

Conley , Mayo and Marc are decent aT IT.


they would be top 3 in defesne posibly if not for gay and Zach.

goose15
03-24-2011, 11:57 PM
all I know is Dantoni would be the coach :mad:

rhino17
03-24-2011, 11:57 PM
G: Steve Nash
G: Monta Ellis
F: Luis Scola
F: David Lee
C: Andrea Bargnani

Coach: Mike D'Antoni

Jewelz0376
03-25-2011, 12:00 AM
G: Steve Nash
G: Monta Ellis
F: Luis Scola
F: David Lee
C: Andrea Bargnani

Coach: Mike D'Antoni

:laugh2:

DreamShake
03-25-2011, 12:11 AM
Pg- Steve Nash
Sg- Kevin Martin
Sf- Chase Budinger
Pf- Antwan Jamison
C- Andrea Bargnani
6th Man- Aaron Brooks

A lot of scoring but absolutely NO defense.

danniboi168
03-25-2011, 12:40 AM
all I know is Dantoni would be the coach :mad:

hahaha

asandhu23
03-25-2011, 12:48 AM
Don Nelson *****es

el_primo_nano
03-25-2011, 10:34 AM
Ny Knicks Roster 1-8

Mile High Champ
03-25-2011, 10:38 AM
Bargnani is not a bad man to man defender, he is a bad help defender but he is certainly not the worst defensive center in the NBA..

Hellcrooner
03-25-2011, 10:40 AM
Bargnani is not a bad man to man defender, he is a bad help defender but he is certainly not the worst defensive center in the NBA..

Thats teh thing.

If he was alowed to play hsi true position at PF he woudl be a Mediocre defender.

But they throw him out there against center, and he doe snot have the bulk and lenght to deffend them, so yes when playign center he is the worse defender for the positionn.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
03-25-2011, 10:49 AM
Monta doesn't belong up. He is one of the leaders in steals and has been since his rookie year. He is not "defense less"

the more steals the more he gambles:sigh:

Rivera
03-25-2011, 10:53 AM
nash
monta ellis
jamal crawford
troy murphy
banana

Mile High Champ
03-25-2011, 10:53 AM
Thats teh thing.

If he was alowed to play hsi true position at PF he woudl be a Mediocre defender.

But they throw him out there against center, and he doe snot have the bulk and lenght to deffend them, so yes when playign center he is the worse defender for the positionn.

No, his post defense is actually not that bad, it is his help defense. I am sorry bu there are far worse defensive centers out there. Brook Lopez, Nenad Krstic & Zydrunas Ilgauskas all have my vote.

DITKA4GOV
03-25-2011, 04:07 PM
No Derrick Rose? :D

Typical heat fan. I'm sure deron and cp3 also agree with u.

kozelkid
03-25-2011, 04:13 PM
Calderon
Martin
Hedo
Villanueva
Bargnani

D'antoni.

There you go.

Bravo95
03-25-2011, 04:18 PM
Calderon
Crawford
Radmanovic
Boozer
Bargnani

metsfanssince05
03-25-2011, 04:19 PM
Just have D'antoni as your coach and your set.

Chronz
03-25-2011, 04:30 PM
D'Antoni isnt the worst defensive coach in the league

Jacoballen22
03-25-2011, 04:39 PM
There are worse defenders at the PF position than Bosh, you guys are ridiculous. Boozer, for example, is one.

As a Bulls fan, I concur. I don't hate Boozer but I sure here his defense. I back up every Thibs benching of him. Asik/Gibby FTW.

Sadds The Gr8
03-25-2011, 04:41 PM
if Bargnani and Calderon aren't on your list then it fails.

Gators123
03-25-2011, 04:49 PM
D'Antoni isnt the worst defensive coach in the league

Kuesters gotta be up there.