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Lakeshow86
03-21-2011, 12:20 PM
I dont know if this has been discussed before but if not I think its a good topic.... So in case you havent heard there has been major talks about the Kings moving down to the LA area. So that would make 3 NBA teams all within about a 10 mile radius of each other. If your a fan of LA that might make things seem interesting. You have 3 teams to choose from to root for. But for a fanacial standpoint I dont see how it works, especially for the Clippers and the Kings or Royals as its been suggested the name would be if they move to anaheim. I dont think the Lakers will lose any fanbase. The Lakers will always be the #1 team in town but the Clippers have enough problems as it is with their fanbase and bringing in another team? LA is a big place but I dont know if its that big?

I think If they were to move within the stat of California they should move down to San Diego. or possibly San Jose? Alot of people dont know this but San Jose is actually the 10th largest city(population) in the U.S just ahead of Detroit.

Avenged
03-21-2011, 12:35 PM
No point. Does L.A really want 3 teams? I mean, I still don't know why the Clippers don't relocate. Most of the fans in the OC are Laker fans anyways.

Hellcrooner
03-21-2011, 12:38 PM
Well, maybe anaheim people go and watch the royals instead of driving to staples?

I mean, what do anaheim people do? go watch the DUCKS or Drive and watch the Kings?

jrm2054
03-21-2011, 12:39 PM
No this is stupid they should have to move out of the state

NYYCowboys
03-21-2011, 12:43 PM
Make them go to Vegas...don't the Maloofs own a casino or something there like the Palms maybe?

Klivlend
03-21-2011, 12:46 PM
Why not Seattle? I'm sure we could get Steve Ballmer to pitch in for an arena. He would probably want to own the team though...

KingPosey
03-21-2011, 12:57 PM
They shouldnt get to move at all. The Maloofs played our city for a fool. Watch when attendance went down, and look at the roster they started putting together at that EXACT time. Then they repeatedly lied about when/ why they were gathering cap space.

KingPosey
03-21-2011, 12:58 PM
Make them go to Vegas...don't the Maloofs own a casino or something there like the Palms maybe?

you cant bro, or they would have done it 10 years ago.

DodgerBlue82
03-21-2011, 12:59 PM
It is a horrible idea! I also read, (sorry dont have the article anymore) that the NBA was thinking of moving the Hornets to San Jose. If thats the case just move Sacremento to San Jose and give anohter state the Hornets.

bahama0811
03-21-2011, 01:00 PM
No, they shouldn't be allowed to move to Anaheim. I don't see why all of these leagues think they need to have so many teams in California.

DerekRE_3
03-21-2011, 01:00 PM
Why not Seattle? I'm sure we could get Steve Ballmer to pitch in for an arena. He would probably want to own the team though...

They don't have a venue. Key Arena is just like Arco.

MickeyMgl
03-21-2011, 01:07 PM
I dont know if this has been discussed before but if not I think its a good topic.... So in case you havent heard there has been major talks about the Kings moving down to the LA area. So that would make 3 NBA teams all within about a 10 mile radius of each other. If your a fan of LA that might make things seem interesting. You have 3 teams to choose from to root for. But for a fanacial standpoint I dont see how it works, especially for the Clippers and the Kings or Royals as its been suggested the name would be if they move to anaheim. I dont think the Lakers will lose any fanbase. The Lakers will always be the #1 team in town but the Clippers have enough problems as it is with their fanbase and bringing in another team? LA is a big place but I dont know if its that big?

I think If they were to move within the stat of California they should move down to San Diego. or possibly San Jose? Alot of people dont know this but San Jose is actually the 10th largest city(population) in the U.S just ahead of Detroit.

I would like the Kings to move to Anaheim, and the Clippers to move to San Diego... or wherever else that's not near me.

MickeyMgl
03-21-2011, 01:09 PM
No point. Does L.A really want 3 teams? I mean, I still don't know why the Clippers don't relocate. Most of the fans in the OC are Laker fans anyways.

Two teams would be good if neither of them were the Clippers. The Kings have sound ownership. Anaheim has a good arena. The Clippers had their chance at getting their own fan base in OC, and Sterling has refused. I think it can work well for the Kings without hurting the Lakers. The Clippers, they're just leeches.

GREATNESS ONE
03-21-2011, 01:13 PM
I think so, being from SoCal there's tons of people out here and I think a lot of people in OC will jump there Bandwagon.

Okc Thunder #1
03-21-2011, 01:14 PM
Well it just doesnt sound right, Anahiem Royals?? Bad name, i honestly think they've should of moved to Las Vegas. But remember stern is in control:mad:

Lakeshow86
03-21-2011, 01:25 PM
Two teams would be good if neither of them were the Clippers. The Kings have sound ownership. Anaheim has a good arena. The Clippers had their chance at getting their own fan base in OC, and Sterling has refused. I think it can work well for the Kings without hurting the Lakers. The Clippers, they're just leeches.

The kings have sound ownership? The Maloffs are about one thing: Money $$$. I really dont think they could give a damn about the Kings as long as they are making money. I think they are the worst owners in spots. Even worse than Cuban. As much as a hate Cuban and his smart *** remarks . I do give him credit for trying to build winning teams and his energy by sitting with the fans every game. The Maloofs are total businessmen through and through.

DerekRE_3
03-21-2011, 01:26 PM
I think so, being from SoCal there's tons of people out here and I think a lot of people in OC will jump there Bandwagon.

Everyone in Orange County is a Laker fan. I don't see them choosing the Kings who could have their second sub 20 win season in three years over a 16 time NBA champion Laker team.

Supa
03-21-2011, 01:31 PM
The only positive thing is not having to drive to LA for NBA games.

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desertrat218
03-21-2011, 01:31 PM
Well, maybe anaheim people go and watch the royals instead of driving to staples?

I mean, what do anaheim people do? go watch the DUCKS or Drive and watch the Kings?

Anaheim people can go watch the Ducks or the Angels or go to the beach. If you live in Anaheim, LA is only about 35 miles away, not like you can't drive to LA for games...trust me because I used to do it all the time.

I no longer live in the area but I am pretty sure nobody in LA/OC is interested in the Sacramento Kings relocating to the area.

Lakeshow86
03-21-2011, 01:34 PM
Everyone in Orange County is a Laker fan. I don't see them choosing the Kings who could have their second sub 20 win season in three years over a 16 time NBA champion Laker team.

well, There could be alot of people comming to the games in Anaheim. The Angels have a big commited fan base but I think some of that is because alot of fans dont feel like going through all that traffic to get to dodger stadium and settle with the Angels as opposed to the Dodgers. I think there could be alot of fans that could come to a game in Anaheim because they dont want to have to go through all of that traffic once you get deeper in LA. I wouldnt say Laker fans in Anaheim would neccessarily switch from the Lakers to the Royals but I think they could root for both teams and just go to Anaheim instead of driving in the heavy LA traffic around staples center. The lakers will always been sold out no matter what though. There is always a mile long line waiting to get Laker tickets.

richiesaurus310
03-21-2011, 01:41 PM
This is a good idea

Texas has a population of 25 million people and also 3 nba teams

Southern California has 17 million people, and with the Kings/Royals 3 nba teams

Anaheim is 35 miles away from Staples center, and traffic blows on the way there...

Lakeshow86
03-21-2011, 01:43 PM
The only positive thing is not having to drive to LA for NBA games.

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exactly. I think alot of people probably would go to Anaheim just for the sake of not having to drive deep into LA traffic. I dont think Laker/Clipper fans in LA would switch sides and only root for the Royals but I think you will see alot of fans that become both Laker and Royal fans and just got to the Royal games just for the sake of avoiding traffic because Staples center traffic is Brutal. Lakers wont be hurt though because there will always been people going to Laker games. Clippers though I think could be really hurt though.

Klivlend
03-21-2011, 01:48 PM
They don't have a venue. Key Arena is just like Arco.

Ya, but before they left Steve Ballmer said he would give $150 million towards a new arena. We might be able to get a new one.

buch88
03-21-2011, 01:54 PM
No. Bad move not because LA will have 3 teams, but because one of the great basketball cities and fan bases will no longer have a team.

Seattle and Sacramento, two great cities of fans without team. It's a shame.

MalZee24
03-21-2011, 01:57 PM
It's a bad move because the fans of Sacramento have proven they're some of the best in the league. I remember Marv Albert used to call Arco the Madhouse of the NBA because it was the loudest arena in the league. Great fanbase.

Lakeshow86
03-21-2011, 02:03 PM
It's a bad move because the fans of Sacramento have proven they're some of the best in the league. I remember Marv Albert used to call Arco the Madhouse of the NBA because it was the loudest arena in the league. Great fanbase.

ya, when the Kings were good back in 99-03 they were great fans but since i dont think hardly anyone goes to the games anymore.

richiesaurus310
03-21-2011, 02:07 PM
Ehh its like 80 miles from sacramento to oakland if they want to see nba basketball bad enough...

Its still a 35 mile drive from anaheim to Staples center, so the royals aren't quite a 3rd LA team. And this is a good financial move on the Maloof's behalf.

Bucsfan
03-21-2011, 02:25 PM
was hoping they would at least move to seattle :(

too many teams in the same states

PhillyFaninLA
03-21-2011, 02:40 PM
No, they shouldn't be allowed to move to Anaheim. I don't see why all of these leagues think they need to have so many teams in California.


The Sacramento Kings already play in California so this argument does not make sense.

GREATNESS ONE
03-21-2011, 02:56 PM
well, There could be alot of people comming to the games in Anaheim. The Angels have a big commited fan base but I think some of that is because alot of fans dont feel like going through all that traffic to get to dodger stadium and settle with the Angels as opposed to the Dodgers. I think there could be alot of fans that could come to a game in Anaheim because they dont want to have to go through all of that traffic once you get deeper in LA. I wouldnt say Laker fans in Anaheim would neccessarily switch from the Lakers to the Royals but I think they could root for both teams and just go to Anaheim instead of driving in the heavy LA traffic around staples center. The lakers will always been sold out no matter what though. There is always a mile long line waiting to get Laker tickets.

:clap: Exactly what I was thinking.


On a sidenote, GO DODGERS !!!!!

ccg34
03-21-2011, 02:59 PM
Well it just doesnt sound right, Anahiem Royals?? Bad name, i honestly think they've should of moved to Las Vegas. But remember stern is in control:mad:

Why do you hate Stern? He stole my favorite sports team and moved it to your city. Shouldn't you love him? Anyways the Anaheim Royals is a bad idea. In my opinion, relocation is a bad thing unless a city has 2 sports teams.

TheDiggler
03-21-2011, 03:18 PM
I want the sonics back. The Charlotte hornets. And Washington bullets.

Anaheim royals Sounds Retro, but wrong. I feel sorry for the Sacramento fanbase. Because its a greAt One. The Fans there Deserve a legit Playoff Team.

richiesaurus310
03-21-2011, 03:29 PM
I want the sonics back. The Charlotte hornets. And Washington bullets.

Anaheim royals Sounds Retro, but wrong. I feel sorry for the Sacramento fanbase. Because its a greAt One. The Fans there Deserve a legit Playoff Team.

Whos fans dont deserve a legit playoff team??

SACNYY
03-21-2011, 03:31 PM
It's stupid really. Does LA even have any Clipper fans? The Kings should've moved to Seattle or Kansas City along with the Clippers.

king4day
03-21-2011, 04:11 PM
Fans of the 3 teams get to see their own team play an additional 4 times per year then since they'd be so close

DerekRE_3
03-21-2011, 04:16 PM
Fans of the 3 teams get to see their own team play an additional 4 times per year then since they'd be so close

So?

MickeyMgl
03-21-2011, 04:50 PM
The kings have sound ownership? The Maloffs are about one thing: Money $$$. I really dont think they could give a damn about the Kings as long as they are making money. I think they are the worst owners in spots. Even worse than Cuban. As much as a hate Cuban and his smart *** remarks . I do give him credit for trying to build winning teams and his energy by sitting with the fans every game. The Maloofs are total businessmen through and through.

Mark Cuban is a very good owner. He's a buisnessman, too.

Making money is not contradictory to wanting/trying to win. They invested a lot in the team a decade ago in an effort to build a winner. They're going through lean times right now, and may have made some bad choices, but "sound ownership" means they at least try to win. "Not sound" = Donal Sterling.

MickeyMgl
03-21-2011, 04:52 PM
Everyone in Orange County is a Laker fan. I don't see them choosing the Kings who could have their second sub 20 win season in three years over a 16 time NBA champion Laker team.

The Angels had fans for years before they finally became a winning organization.

MickeyMgl
03-21-2011, 04:54 PM
Ya, but before they left Steve Ballmer said he would give $150 million towards a new arena. We might be able to get a new one.

Take the Clippers. Please.

king4day
03-21-2011, 04:54 PM
So?

For those in LA it's a good thing.

tyfreaks brotha
03-21-2011, 05:07 PM
The Sacramento Kings already play in California so this argument does not make sense.

Exactly

tyfreaks brotha
03-21-2011, 05:10 PM
Whether you like it or not, it's going to happen. Unless we end up staying in Sac-town, but who am I kidding.

TylerSL
03-21-2011, 05:39 PM
its stupid. 95% of LA is Laker fans, nobody will go watch that team play.... People might go to the games in the begining, but once the new excitement is gone and the team starts losing nobody will go.

Crackadalic
03-21-2011, 05:57 PM
Make every state have their own nba team then everyone would be happy

DerekRE_3
03-21-2011, 06:26 PM
The Angels had fans for years before they finally became a winning organization.

The Dodgers don't dominate the market like the Lakers do.

sportscrazy34
03-21-2011, 06:31 PM
How long before there the la royals of anahiem?

Klivlend
03-21-2011, 06:37 PM
Take the Clippers. Please.

Please and thank you. Gladly! :D

LA_Raiders
03-21-2011, 07:19 PM
Very bad move by Stern and the Maloofs, I can see them moving out of LA in 3 years...

Bruno
03-21-2011, 07:24 PM
I think it's a big gamble.

Do they really think all the Orange County/Anaheim Laker and Clipper fans are going to suddenly start rooting for a team who they despised in recent memory?

Not only that, but the Clippers played at the Anaheim Pond from '94-'99. They were essentially the Anaheim Clippers during that half-decade time period. I just think its a big gamble, and having three teams that close to eachother is over-kill, IMO.

They should move to Vegas, or become the new Sonics, IMO.

GoatMilk
03-21-2011, 07:30 PM
I think it's a big gamble.

Do they really think all the Orange County/Anaheim Laker and Clipper fans are going to suddenly start rooting for a team who they despised in recent memory?

Not only that, but the Clippers played at the Anaheim Pond from '94-'99. They were essentially the Anaheim Clippers during that half-decade time period. I just think its a big gamble, and having three teams that close to eachother is over-kill, IMO.

They should move to Vegas, or become the new Sonics, IMO.

if they could move to vegas, they would
and the sonics left for pretty much the same reasons the kings are leaving. not that easy

Bruno
03-21-2011, 07:39 PM
if they could move to vegas, they would
and the sonics left for pretty much the same reasons the kings are leaving. not that easy

I don't think moving a team is every an easy thing to do. I just think they'd be doing the franchise a disservice by throwing them into an area thats dominated by Laker and Clipper fans.

I don't think this can be compared to MLB; the Dogers are garbage and have been for over 20 years. The Angels worked because the competition w/in their geographical proximity weren't winning, and the owners of the Angels were willing to spend the money to make them contenders.

Whens the last time the Maloof brothers dished out enough greens to make the Kings contenders?

I wish them luck, I'm just skeptical.

topdog
03-21-2011, 07:47 PM
I hate to see any fan base lose its team, but at least they didn't leave the state. If it works financially, it works. I wouldn't think they'd go for it if they didn't think it would.

I kinda like the name though - Anahiem Royals. Hey, but if there's a problem, the Lakers can always come back to Minneapolis :D

Atticus Finch
03-21-2011, 07:50 PM
Vegas definitely isn't an option for any professional franchise, at least not for the next several years. I don't remember the exact numbers but people are leaving Vegas, as well as the entire state of Nevada, in droves.

This move sucks for Portland too. Both the sonics and the kings left, which means the only team even remotely close to them is Golden State. After that it's the 3 so cal teams, then Utah? Couple that with the fact that all 3 LA teams gets to play their normal 41 home games, plus 4 more "away" games where they play in either Anaheim or LA. For the Lakers that's basically like having 45 home games.

On the other hand, the league will probably start planning eastern conference team's road trips a little differently. We might see something where a team like Boston would play all 3 LA teams in LA over the span of 4 or 5 days.

Bottom line is that all Kings (and Sonics for that matter) fans have my sympathy, nobody should ever have a franchise taken away from them. From the people I've met and what I've seen, Kings fans and Sonics fans were always some of the most loyal and crazy fans around.

mttwlsn16
03-21-2011, 08:00 PM
I dont know if this has been discussed before but if not I think its a good topic.... So in case you havent heard there has been major talks about the Kings moving down to the LA area. So that would make 3 NBA teams all within about a 10 mile radius of each other. If your a fan of LA that might make things seem interesting. You have 3 teams to choose from to root for. But for a fanacial standpoint I dont see how it works, especially for the Clippers and the Kings or Royals as its been suggested the name would be if they move to anaheim. I dont think the Lakers will lose any fanbase. The Lakers will always be the #1 team in town but the Clippers have enough problems as it is with their fanbase and bringing in another team? LA is a big place but I dont know if its that big?

I think If they were to move within the stat of California they should move down to San Diego. or possibly San Jose? Alot of people dont know this but San Jose is actually the 10th largest city(population) in the U.S just ahead of Detroit.

clippers sell out quite a lot

Car Ramrod
03-21-2011, 09:00 PM
A big problem with Vegas is that it is a 24-hour city with a large portion of people working at all hours. And how many tourists will actually have any money left over to see a game?

It would be a shame to see a team with a good fanbase move when there are so many that are struggling. I hope the Kings stay put and can build another winner.

lincecum=future
03-21-2011, 09:08 PM
san jose could easily support an nba team. It would be a pretty good fit if they wanted to keep the team in cali

Lake_Show2416
03-21-2011, 09:59 PM
don't sleep on the Kings moving to San Jose, CA... I heard the biggest reason why the San Jose based company Skrikeforce was sold was to try to bring another pro team to the Sharks arena, HP Pavilion ...great fan base too

MalZee24
03-22-2011, 01:43 AM
ya, when the Kings were good back in 99-03 they were great fans but since i dont think hardly anyone goes to the games anymore.

yeah but that's the case for most professional sports teams, especially smaller market teams like sacramento. if the team is losing, not as many fans are going to go to the games. And they started going bad right smack in the middle of the recession around 2008-2009. That doesnt mean those fans don't watch the games on tv though. And i just looked it up on google, the kings consecutive sellout lasted well beyond the 2003 season. their sellout streak ended beyond the 2007 season. I remember watching some of their playoff games in like 2005 and 2006. It was still a very loud arena, but it just didn't seem like it was that loud because it was even incredibly louder (if you can believe that) in the years you mentioned. Many teams dont sell a lot of tickets when they're doing poorly. Thats the case with the kings, but that doesn't take anything away from them being great fans. Same goes for the sonics. The sonics weren't that good in their final years in seattle except for a couple playoff moments from Ray Allen. That's about it. Even though seattle wasn't selling a lot of seats, they were still a great basketball city with great basketball fans.

Storch
03-22-2011, 04:04 AM
No its not a good thing because it's going to be crazy traffic in that area and the 57, 210, 10, 5, and 91 freeways are already crap as it is.

MickeyMgl
03-22-2011, 06:46 AM
The Dodgers don't dominate the market like the Lakers do.

But they DID.

MickeyMgl
03-22-2011, 07:35 AM
Not only that, but the Clippers played at the Anaheim Pond from '94-'99. They were essentially the Anaheim Clippers during that half-decade time period. I just think its a big gamble, and having three teams that close to eachother is over-kill, IMO.

The Clippers played a handful of games in Anaheim each of those seasons as an alternate home site, which hardly qualified them as the "Anaheim Clippers". Their home court was Staples.

The Pond is a good arena. The Clippers SHOULD have gone to play there fulltime when they had the chance. A decently run team playing there can carve out its own identity and form a proper rivalry with the Lakers (even if the Lakers dominate). Donald Sterling never showed any interest in this, but in order to establish your own fanbase, you need your own arena.

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The Time Donald Sterling Walked out on the Anaheim Pond Mid-Meeting
http://tinyurl.com/yfgsevh


Before the LA Clippers became one of the few NBA teams that appears to be doing well financially, there were times when they hardly drew fans to the outdated LA Sports Arena. It was then — 15 years ago — that they were considering playing their games at the Pond in Anaheim (currently named the Honda Center) full-time. They began playing games in Anaheim in 1994 after the Sports Arena was damaged in the Northridge earthquake, continued playing select games there the next few years, and always drew well attendance-wise.

It got to the point where in 1996 they were in negotiations to play there full-time. Of course the Clippers never moved to Anaheim, and they opened up Staples Center with the Lakers and Kings in 1999.

So what happened that kept the Clippers from moving to Anaheim if they were that close to making it official? A great story explains it all.

Last week during his Mason & Ireland Show on 710 ESPN in LA, John Ireland related a story about Sterling and his planned move to Anaheim. Apparently there was a meeting at the Pond where the Clippers were all set to sign contracts to play in Anaheim but Sterling rudely backed out.

As Ireland described it, the champagne was on ice and the people at the Pond were all ready to celebrate with Sterling there to sign the papers. Then, Ireland says two people who were in attendance for the meeting told him that Sterling asked to go to the bathroom and never returned. Sterling’s explanation was that there was no way he was going to make all his friends who live in Beverly Hills drive down to Anaheim for games.

I’m not sure what he gained from teasing Anaheim like that. Maybe he really was considering the move but had a change of heart at the last second. Regardless, if the story is true — and it sure seems like it — it seems like a pretty crappy way to handle things. Then again, it is quite consistent with what we’ve learned about Sterling’s character lately, so it shouldn’t be too surprising.

F()()TBALL
03-22-2011, 01:29 PM
or better yet just stay in SACRAMENTO!!!

Hellcrooner
03-22-2011, 01:37 PM
to be honest it hey had to move i would preffer them to go to

KC

Cincinnatti

Rochester.

At least they would be robbing the team from the current fans to give it Back to fans that were robbed this same team before.

Lake_Show2416
03-22-2011, 02:15 PM
or better yet just stay in SACRAMENTO!!!

they're tired of playing in that broken down arena n the city won't give them a new 1

IversonIsKrazy
03-22-2011, 03:17 PM
Plz come to Vancouver...

silrdr06
03-22-2011, 04:01 PM
san jose could easily support an nba team. It would be a pretty good fit if they wanted to keep the team in cali

:clap::clap::clap: That would be awesome. San Jose Kings. I like it.:cool:

Sadds The Gr8
03-22-2011, 04:02 PM
no it's ****in stupid. the fact that LA has so much teams is a ****in joke

hotpotato1092
03-22-2011, 04:20 PM
How southern california gets a third team while Seattle, KC, Vegas, Vancouver and Pittsburgh have a combined zero is beyond me.

richiesaurus310
03-22-2011, 04:34 PM
no it's ****in stupid. the fact that LA has so much teams is a ****in joke

Umm no it isnt...

B'sCeltsPatsSox
03-22-2011, 04:59 PM
They should have moved to Seattle.

B'sCeltsPatsSox
03-22-2011, 04:59 PM
Anyways have the owners passed the relocation yet?

DerekRE_3
03-22-2011, 05:26 PM
Anyways have the owners passed the relocation yet?

Hard for owners to pass a relocation when it hasn't been filed yet.

And for the thousandth time...they aren't going to Seattle even if they wanted to. They don't have a venue. Key Arena is the same as Arco. Outdated.

Ripper Gein
03-22-2011, 05:39 PM
no it's ****in stupid. the fact that LA has so much teams is a ****in joke

[QUOTE=hotpotato1092;17199759]How southern california gets a third team while Seattle, KC, Vegas, Vancouver and Pittsburgh have a combined zero is beyond me.[/QU


Well we ARE the GREATEST CITY IN THE WORLD!!! LOS ANGELES!!!

THINKBLUE15
03-22-2011, 06:56 PM
The Dodgers don't dominate the market like the Lakers do.

They have lead the league in attendance as recent as 2009, are top 3 every single year, and hold the record for largest cumulative attendance of all time for all the sports. Even when they suck. They are the market for baseball in Southern California, especially everywhere north of Anaheim.

The difference is there isn't an NBA team in the OC and the only team for all of So Cal is the Lakers, especially since the alternative is the Clippers.

Tony_Starks
03-22-2011, 07:08 PM
Financially it works because people from the OC will go to the games if nothing else for convenience and as a "status symbol." I really don't think it will take away from the fan bases Laker fans aren't going anywhere and the Clippers are buzzing right now with Blake and Gordon.

I would feel bad for Sac fans though, its not fair that they have to lose their team just because management has been screwing up.

Kevj77
03-22-2011, 07:27 PM
Financially it works because people from the OC will go to the games if nothing else for convenience and as a "status symbol." I really don't think it will take away from the fan bases Laker fans aren't going anywhere and the Clippers are buzzing right now with Blake and Gordon.

I would feel bad for Sac fans though, its not fair that they have to lose their team just because management has been screwing up.Sacramento proved it would support the Kings, so I would feel bad for Kings fans. I thought they were thinking of leaving because they don't like Arco? Are you saying that if they were a contender that they would get a new arena in Sac? I don't know if they could pass a publicly funded arena there even if the Kings were NBA champs and we know the state isn't going to pay with the amount of debt it has.

AT&T Park and Staples were both privately funded I believe. They ruined it for teams that want new arenas with public assistance. The NFL has been dying to get back into LA for 10 years and can't because taxpayers there don't want to fund a Stadium.

I find it hypocritical that owners are pleading poverty and want players to take a paycut or there might be a lockout, then turn around and ask a fanbase to fund a arena or they will pack up and leave town. Our wallets are a lot tighter then theirs right now.

Tony_Starks
03-22-2011, 07:41 PM
Sacramento proved it would support the Kings, so I would feel bad for Kings fans. I thought they were thinking of leaving because they don't like Arco? Are you saying that if they were a contender that they would get a new arena in Sac? I don't know if they could pass a publicly funded arena there even if the Kings were NBA champs and we know the state isn't going to pay with the amount of debt it has.

AT&T Park and Staples were both privately funded I believe. They ruined it for teams that want new arenas with public assistance. The NFL has been dying to get back into LA for 10 years and can't because taxpayers there don't want to fund a Stadium.

I find it hypocritical that owners are pleading poverty and want players to take a paycut or there might be a lockout, then turn around and ask a fanbase to fund a arena or they will pack up and leave town. Our wallets are a lot tighter then theirs right now.



Very true. I think the main issue is poor attendance, I believe they're dead last right now. There are funding issues as well and Im not really sure about the whole story but I think they go hand in hand with the poor attendance.

At the end of the day winning cures everything though. It amazes me how these owners are crying broke and want the players to give back money but they conveniently leave out the fact they are constantly signing inconsistent players to horrible contracts, making marginal trades that don't improve the team, and making poor draft choices.

Its like if you were totally screwing up at work and went to your boss and said "well maybe if I had a raise I could do a better job." Ridiculous!

TheBatchelor213
03-23-2011, 02:12 PM
anaheim is not 10 miles from staples center first of all.....secondly....Clippers, as much as people clown Sterling remain one of the few profitable franchises in the NBA, even with the current economic climate and that certainly will not change with Blake Griffin being on the roster. As for the team in Anaheim, the Maloofs will go from half filled arenas in desolate sacramento to a new found buzz in Anaheim that will not the Orange County crowd as well as fans from San Diego, its really a win win.

richiesaurus310
03-23-2011, 04:13 PM
[QUOTE=hotpotato1092;17199759]How southern california gets a third team while Seattle, KC, Vegas, Vancouver and Pittsburgh have a combined zero is beyond me.[/QU


Well we ARE the GREATEST CITY IN THE WORLD!!! LOS ANGELES!!!

They dont have the amount of people we have here in LA not including the rest of so. cal

CityofTreez
03-23-2011, 06:00 PM
The only silver lining in this for Kings fans is all the NBA Owners need to agree to the move in order to make this official.

I hate Donald Sterling, but if he rejects this for the sake of the Clippers franchise, he will go down as one of my favorite GM's.

CityofTreez
03-23-2011, 06:01 PM
[QUOTE=Ripper Gein;17200636]

They dont have the amount of people we have here in LA not including the rest of so. cal

They certainly have enough fans that are not going to disregard them for the Lakers/Clippers.

The amount of people in LA?
Do you know the exact amount of people that root for the lakers in all of Southrn California?

Warrant32
03-23-2011, 06:04 PM
Not gonna be teh same without the Kings.

Tony_Starks
03-23-2011, 06:29 PM
The only silver lining in this for Kings fans is all the NBA Owners need to agree to the move in order to make this official.

I hate Donald Sterling, but if he rejects this for the sake of the Clippers franchise, he will go down as one of my favorite GM's.


I dont think it has to be unanimous though does it? I think its majority vote.

Punk
03-23-2011, 06:36 PM
I always say they should put together an agreement to play pre-season games in the former city a team used to play in.

Seattle hosting OKC.

Sacramento hosting the Royals.

New Jersey hosting Brooklyn.

CityofTreez
03-23-2011, 06:59 PM
I dont think it has to be unanimous though does it? I think its majority vote.

I am not 100% sure, but I heard one owners opinion can affect it significantly. The "domino effect" is what I'm hoping for :(

When I think of one owner who could reject this, it's Donald Sterling, and he has some good arguments in his case about not wanting an Anaheim Royals team 30 miles away.

heathonater
03-23-2011, 08:43 PM
i dont think another team in the la area is a good idea. the royals, or kings, will always be the second or third team in town, and with griffin playing for the clippers, its more likely the royals will be known as the third team in la. sacramento was a great nba town when they were competitive and its too bad that the city will no longer have an nba team. ideally, a new arena would be built in sacramento in order for the kings to remain in that city, but that looks highly unlikely at this point.

richiesaurus310
03-23-2011, 10:15 PM
[QUOTE=richiesaurus310;17211669]

They certainly have enough fans that are not going to disregard them for the Lakers/Clippers.

The amount of people in LA?
Do you know the exact amount of people that root for the lakers in all of Southrn California?

Does anyone?? :confused:

Fans can change their minds about who they follow/root for, especially basketball fans who have never had a team of their own in Orange County. All that matters is a television contract which they'll get for Orange County TV and 17,608 people that will go to the Honda Center 41+ times a year (Orange County has a population of 3 million)...

Lets say the Lakers have 11 million LA fans, that still leaves 3 million Clippers and 3 million Kings fans in the greater LA area assuming everyone watches basketball. 3 million is more people than live in Chicago, Houston, Phoenix, Philadelphia, San Antonio, Dallas, Detroit, Charlotte, and Memphis... :rolleyes:

MVP1
03-23-2011, 11:05 PM
[QUOTE=Ripper Gein;17200636]

They dont have the amount of people we have here in LA not including the rest of so. cal

:facepalm:

richiesaurus310
03-24-2011, 12:53 AM
^ People = $$$$$$$
It's nothing personal, just business...

Voodoo Alchemy
03-24-2011, 01:27 AM
whatever they do, make sure the new name is either So Cal Royales or West Coast Califas!!!

Voodoo Alchemy
03-24-2011, 01:29 AM
[QUOTE=CityofTreez;17212879]

Does anyone?? :confused:

Fans can change their minds about who they follow/root for, especially basketball fans who have never had a team of their own in Orange County. All that matters is a television contract which they'll get for Orange County TV and 17,608 people that will go to the Honda Center 41+ times a year (Orange County has a population of 3 million)...

Lets say the Lakers have 11 million LA fans, that still leaves 3 million Clippers and 3 million Kings fans in the greater LA area assuming everyone watches basketball. 3 million is more people than live in Chicago, Houston, Phoenix, Philadelphia, San Antonio, Dallas, Detroit, Charlotte, and Memphis... :rolleyes:

OC baby!!!

The_Jamal
03-24-2011, 01:32 AM
****. no.

OREcoast49er
03-24-2011, 02:03 AM
Ehh its like 80 miles from sacramento to oakland if they want to see nba basketball bad enough...

Its still a 35 mile drive from anaheim to Staples center, so the royals aren't quite a 3rd LA team. And this is a good financial move on the Maloof's behalf.

This makes no ****ing sense. Its cool for people to drive 80 miles to see a game in norcal, but 35 miles is too far in so cal. Stupid.

Ebbs
03-24-2011, 02:50 AM
Vancouver :pray:

MickeyMgl
03-25-2011, 03:07 PM
I dont think it has to be unanimous though does it? I think its majority vote.

I don't know the exact answer, but usually in the major sports leagues, it's some kind of super-majority. Not unanimous, but not a simple 51%, either. Like, usually somewhere between 60% and 75%. Room to get it done with a few dissenters.

MickeyMgl
03-25-2011, 03:14 PM
i dont think another team in the la area is a good idea. the royals, or kings, will always be the second or third team in town, and with griffin playing for the clippers, its more likely the royals will be known as the third team in la. sacramento was a great nba town when they were competitive and its too bad that the city will no longer have an nba team. ideally, a new arena would be built in sacramento in order for the kings to remain in that city, but that looks highly unlikely at this point.

Griffin won't stay with the Clippers for long. The Clippers under Don Sterling will, over time, be the 3rd team. Once the Kings rebuild some kind of winner, they are more likely to sustain it than the Clippers are.

MickeyMgl
03-25-2011, 03:16 PM
I just want the Kings to come and eventually force the Clippers out.

richiesaurus310
03-26-2011, 02:02 AM
This makes no ****ing sense. Its cool for people to drive 80 miles to see a game in norcal, but 35 miles is too far in so cal. Stupid.

Anaheim's Honda Center is 40 miles away from Staples Center. To get there you must pass through the East Los Angeles Interchange, the busiest freeway interchange in the world. Unfortunately usable public transportation in LA is still at least 20 years away.

There must be a train that gets you from sacramento to oakland, and then the BART will take u to oracle...

If sactown basketball fans love the game so much they can go to oakland. Thats a better deal than supersonic fans...

richiesaurus310
03-26-2011, 02:06 AM
They should have moved to Seattle.

I dont have a link to this but in the current issue of ESPN the Magazine theres a tiny section that asked teamates in different sports multiple questions. They asked perkins and durant if the thunder were better off in okc or seatle. Durant didnt answer it, but the newcomer perkins said it was definitely 100% a great move for the franchise...

OREcoast49er
03-26-2011, 11:31 AM
Anaheim's Honda Center is 40 miles away from Staples Center. To get there you must pass through the East Los Angeles Interchange, the busiest freeway interchange in the world. Unfortunately usable public transportation in LA is still at least 20 years away.

There must be a train that gets you from sacramento to oakland, and then the BART will take u to oracle...

If sactown basketball fans love the game so much they can go to oakland. Thats a better deal than supersonic fans...


This is why no one likes people from so cal....this kind of attitude. Very condescending. "Eh, youre not LA, just go root for another team." And why "must there be a train" to get you from Sac to Oakland when LA doesnt have one that travels less then half the distance? Its a long drive from Sac to Oakland dude (even your sig has the mileage-90 miles). ****, I live 2 hours from Portland, I should probably just go to all the Blazer games since its so close. Im not from LA so its cool for me to travel ridiculous distances to watch sporting events.


And your sig is stupid. Comparing the amount of teams/population of Socal and Texas to each other to justify the Kings move to LA. Texas is a much much larger area then the LA area. The teams are more spread out then the ones in LA will be. Much farther then 40 miles. Very arrogant. The attitude of people down there gives all of us from California a bad name in other states. I hear it all the time in Oregon when I tell them Im from California. I have to explain to them that Im from "the good part".


Hell, you live in California. You should never miss a 49er game, its only 6 hours away.......gotta be a train or something.

richiesaurus310
03-28-2011, 06:15 PM
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This is why no one likes people from so cal....this kind of attitude. Very condescending. "Eh, youre not LA, just go root for another team." And why "must there be a train" to get you from Sac to Oakland when LA doesnt have one that travels less then half the distance? Its a long drive from Sac to Oakland dude (even your sig has the mileage-90 miles). ****, I live 2 hours from Portland, I should probably just go to all the Blazer games since its so close. Im not from LA so its cool for me to travel ridiculous distances to watch sporting events.


And your sig is stupid. Comparing the amount of teams/population of Socal and Texas to each other to justify the Kings move to LA. Texas is a much much larger area then the LA area. The teams are more spread out then the ones in LA will be. Much farther then 40 miles. Very arrogant. The attitude of people down there gives all of us from California a bad name in other states. I hear it all the time in Oregon when I tell them Im from California. I have to explain to them that Im from "the good part".


Hell, you live in California. You should never miss a 49er game, its only 6 hours away.......gotta be a train or something.

http://www.cahighspeedrail.ca.gov/ Actually there will be a train in the future so I won't miss any niner home games one day... :clap:

And because there are trains up in nor cal...

It's not stupid because the amount of people down here not even including San Diego can support three NBA teams just like the entire state of Texas...

OREcoast49er
03-28-2011, 10:27 PM
http://www.cahighspeedrail.ca.gov/ Actually there will be a train in the future so I won't miss any niner home games one day... :clap:

And because there are trains up in nor cal...

It's not stupid because the amount of people down here not even including San Diego can support three NBA teams just like the entire state of Texas...

Yes it is.

richiesaurus310
03-28-2011, 10:42 PM
^ The amount of people and wealth here convinced the Maloof brothers that it wasn't that bad of an idea...

OREcoast49er
03-29-2011, 12:10 AM
^ The amount of people and wealth here convinced the Maloof brothers that it wasn't that bad of an idea...

They are just as stupid. IF they think being 3rd the 3rd wheel then they are obviously idiots. They are just panicking because theyve run all their businesses into the ground. They more then likely wont own the team in 5 years and the franchise will move again. People arent showing up to games in Sacramento becasue theyre poor, its because they put a bad product on the court. Its basic business. THe better the product, the more you sell. Its why the Lakers are such a money making machine, they win. Its not because they are in LA. If that was the case, the Clips would be on the same level.

richiesaurus310
03-29-2011, 12:30 AM
They are just as stupid. IF they think being 3rd the 3rd wheel then they are obviously idiots. They are just panicking because theyve run all their businesses into the ground. They more then likely wont own the team in 5 years and the franchise will move again. People arent showing up to games in Sacramento becasue theyre poor, its because they put a bad product on the court. Its basic business. THe better the product, the more you sell. Its why the Lakers are such a money making machine, they win. Its not because they are in LA. If that was the case, the Clips would be on the same level.

A little dated but heres some info:

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2009/32/basketball-values-09_NBA-Team-Valuations_Rank.html

The Knicks haven't won anything since 1999, but play in New York...

Look at attendance:
http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance

http://espn.go.com/nba/standings

For 2 young teams at the bottom of the west, the clippers sure have a way better attendance mark. Hmm one does play in LA... :cool: