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rsweene
03-14-2011, 05:02 PM
Who has had the greatest rookie season? Some that come to mind are:

1. Magic Johnson, NBA finals MVP, 18 ppg, 7.7 rpg, and 7.3 apg
2. Lue Alcindor, avereged 28.8 ppg & 14.5 rpg, bucks had 29+ wins over previous year
3. Wilt Chamberlain, averaged 37.6 ppg and 27 rpg, ROTY/league MVP
4. Elgin Baylor, 4th ppg, 3rd rbp, 8 apg in league ROTY
5. Blake Griffin, 2nd in league in dunks/gm (but each should count as 5) 2011 ROTY

I havent seen this question posted, if it has been posted recently can someone provide a link?

knightstemplar
03-14-2011, 05:04 PM
Who has had the greatest rookie season? Some that come to mind are:

1. Magic Johnson, NBA finals MVP, 18 ppg, 7.7 rpg, and 7.3 apg
2. Lue Alcindor, avereged 28.8 ppg & 14.5 rpg, bucks had 29+ wins over previous year
3. Wilt Chamberlain, averaged 37.6 ppg and 27 rpg, ROTY/league MVP
4. Elgin Baylor, 4th ppg, 3rd rbp, 8 apg in league ROTY
5. Blake Griffin, 2nd in league in dunks/gm (but each should count as 5) 2011 ROTY

I havent seen this question posted, if it has been posted recently can someone provide a link?

Magic, thats the best award, he had like 40 points and a triple double in the last game of the 1980 finals

JordansBulls
03-14-2011, 05:06 PM
Who has had the greatest rookie season? Some that come to mind are:

1. Magic Johnson, NBA finals MVP, 18 ppg, 7.7 rpg, and 7.3 apg
2. Lue Alcindor, avereged 28.8 ppg & 14.5 rpg, bucks had 29+ wins over previous year
3. Wilt Chamberlain, averaged 37.6 ppg and 27 rpg, ROTY/league MVP
4. Elgin Baylor, 4th ppg, 3rd rbp, 8 apg in league ROTY
5. Blake Griffin, 2nd in league in dunks/gm (but each should count as 5) 2011 ROTY

I havent seen this question posted, if it has been posted recently can someone provide a link?

Magic dind't have the best rookie season, not even that close either. I'd say it is between Kareem and Wilt followed by guys like MJ, David Robinson, Shaq, Duncan, Bird. Magic went straight to a team with the league mvp on it. He also was like 12th that season in PER and Win Shares.

B'sCeltsPatsSox
03-14-2011, 05:09 PM
Who has had the greatest rookie season? Some that come to mind are:

1. Magic Johnson, NBA finals MVP, 18 ppg, 7.7 rpg, and 7.3 apg
2. Lue Alcindor, avereged 28.8 ppg & 14.5 rpg, bucks had 29+ wins over previous year
3. Wilt Chamberlain, averaged 37.6 ppg and 27 rpg, ROTY/league MVP
4. Elgin Baylor, 4th ppg, 3rd rbp, 8 apg in league ROTY
5. Blake Griffin, 2nd in league in dunks/gm (but each should count as 5) 2011 ROTY

I havent seen this question posted, if it has been posted recently can someone provide a link?
Get Griffin off of there and put on Tim Duncan.

Mishmin
03-14-2011, 05:12 PM
Allen Iverson

Hawkeye15
03-14-2011, 05:35 PM
Alcindor had the greatest rookie year

MacFitz92
03-14-2011, 05:38 PM
Kareem probably. Wilt close second. Lol at Blake Griffin.

Sixerlover
03-14-2011, 05:47 PM
How can you NOT say Wilt?

SteveNash
03-14-2011, 05:51 PM
How can you list Griffin over Duncan? Hell even put Robinson on there.

PhillyFaninLA
03-14-2011, 06:02 PM
I think Blake Griffin and Pepe Sanchez (former Temple Owl and 76ers) are equally deserving compared to Magic or Wilt for ROTY.

asandhu23
03-14-2011, 06:06 PM
Wilt Chamberlain. He beasted. scared the crap out of everyone in NBA.

mttwlsn16
03-14-2011, 06:14 PM
Get Griffin off of there and put on Tim Duncan.

duncan rookie yr: 21, 12, 3
blake rookie yr: 23, 12, 4

SteveNash
03-14-2011, 06:23 PM
duncan rookie yr: 21, 12, 3
blake rookie yr: 23, 12, 4

Duncan had more dunks.

Swashcuff
03-14-2011, 06:28 PM
duncan rookie yr: 21, 12, 3
blake rookie yr: 23, 12, 4

Let's not disrespect TD and overrate BG. It's true those numbers hasn't been seen from a rookie PF since Elvin Hayes' rookie season but hold up a bit. Tim Duncan was on a level above Blake as a rookie.

Duncan's defense and offensive arsenal set him apart from any other rookie PF we have probably ever seen. Including Blake.

Hustlenomics
03-14-2011, 06:32 PM
Allen Iverson

his rookie per game numbers are just like Rose's now :speechless:

Swashcuff
03-14-2011, 06:38 PM
1. Wilt Chamberlain
2. Oscar Robertson
3. Lew Alcindor
4. Michael Jordan
5. Walt Bellamy
6. Magic Johnson
7. Shaquille O'Neal
8. Larry Bird
9. David Robinson
10. Tim Duncan

Honorable mention Allen Iverson :D

I mean c'mon pound for pound no one was a better rookie scorer than A.I. and he did have 9 straight 40 point games. Not even Wilt did that.

Some other GREAT Rookie season

Elgin Baylor
Wes Unseld
Jerry Lucas
Rick Barry
Elvin Hayes
Blake Griffin

FlakeyFool
03-14-2011, 06:38 PM
I laughed at the homerism.

Its wilt and its not even close. 38 and 27? What the ****

-Kobe24-TJ19-
03-14-2011, 06:50 PM
Duncan had more dunks.

Who cares about dunks?

Last time I heard dunks and layups both count as 2 points

Swashcuff
03-14-2011, 07:09 PM
I don't think I did some really good rookies justice in my earlier honorable mentions though.

Alonzo Mourning
Hakeem Olajuwon
Marques Johnson (yeah you heard me correctly)
Bob Pettit
Walter "Sweet D" Davis
Maurice Stokes (It was nice to see he was inducted in the HOF some years back)
Terry Cummings

Had Sabonis come across to the NBA 5+ years sooner he could have possibly made the top 10 in all honesty.

TO to the CHI
03-14-2011, 07:21 PM
his rookie per game numbers are just like Rose's now :speechless:

"Just like" except for the extra TO a game, the much worse shooting numbers, the assist less per game, etc.

Hawkeye15
03-14-2011, 07:34 PM
Let's not disrespect TD and overrate BG. It's true those numbers hasn't been seen from a rookie PF since Elvin Hayes' rookie season but hold up a bit. Tim Duncan was on a level above Blake as a rookie.

Duncan's defense and offensive arsenal set him apart from any other rookie PF we have probably ever seen. Including Blake.

I agree with you, but Duncan also was a 4 year college player, who came into a championship talent roster year 1, with a coach who preached defense.

I do agree, Duncan had more impact his rookie year, but he was also more NBA ready due to seasoning, and came into a better system/coach.

Swashcuff
03-14-2011, 07:47 PM
I agree with you, but Duncan also was a 4 year college player, who came into a championship talent roster year 1, with a coach who preached defense.

I do agree, Duncan had more impact his rookie year, but he was also more NBA ready due to seasoning, and came into a better system/coach.

Seasoning? WHAT SEASONING?

Blake Griffin sat and watched an entire NBA season with some of the best seats in the house. He had more seasoning than anyone. :D

Just Kidding. I totally agree with you on that.

Nighthawk
03-14-2011, 07:55 PM
Tommy Heinsohn had a GREAT rookie year

Won Rookie of the Year, Was an NBA all star and the Celts won a title. Also averaged 16 points and 10 boards. Not to shabby

Geargo Wallace
03-14-2011, 08:03 PM
Wilt a hundo %

LA_Raiders
03-14-2011, 08:06 PM
Kareem no question...

smith&wesson
03-14-2011, 08:15 PM
Wilt Chamberlain, averaged 37.6 ppg and 27 rpg and was the league mvp.

John Walls Era
03-14-2011, 09:13 PM
:laugh: Blake Griffin

210Don
03-14-2011, 09:15 PM
I agree with you, but Duncan also was a 4 year college player, who came into a championship talent roster year 1, with a coach who preached defense.

I do agree, Duncan had more impact his rookie year, but he was also more NBA ready due to seasoning, and came into a better system/coach.

you just love underrating him huh? i mean every topic that brings up duncan you just berate him smh.

Gram
03-14-2011, 09:23 PM
How can you NOT say Wilt?

Because he was the tallest player in the league by like a foot and a half.

Swashcuff
03-14-2011, 09:28 PM
you just love underrating him huh? i mean every topic that brings up duncan you just berate him smh.

Underrate?

He said nothing wrong. Everything he said there was factual and worked to TD's benefit.

It takes a special player to come into such a team and not only perform at a high level but out perform the seasoned vets and previous franchise player (in some aspects of the game).

If Blake played alongside a quality C such a the Admiral it's unlikely that he would be that impactful.

Swashcuff
03-14-2011, 09:28 PM
Because he was the tallest player in the league by like a foot and a half.

that couldn't be more wrong you know.

210Don
03-14-2011, 09:30 PM
Underrate?

He said nothing wrong. Everything he said there was factual and worked to TD's benefit.

It takes a special player to come into such a team and not only perform at a high level but out perform the seasoned vets and previous franchise player (in some aspects of the game).

If Blake played alongside a quality C such a the Admiral it's unlikely that he would be that impactful.

i mean every single thread with timmys name in it he says the same ****. smh

Swashcuff
03-14-2011, 09:33 PM
i mean every single thread with timmys name in it he says the same ****. smh

Bro Timmy is going to be possibly the last four year college player to win ROY. Even IF he had a TD agenda he did him a justice by bringing up his collegiate experience.

rsweene
03-19-2011, 11:26 AM
So its settled. The GROAT is Michael Olowakadi

king4day
03-19-2011, 12:41 PM
I altered the title for the following reasons:

1. No one will know what 'groat' means without going into the thread
2. Looks like spam
3. Even though you're trying to use initials to say what you mean, you used lowercase

nickdymez
03-19-2011, 12:48 PM
Magic... Winning finals MVP trumps anything

John Walls Era
03-19-2011, 01:08 PM
Bro Timmy is going to be possibly the last four year college player to win ROY. Even IF he had a TD agenda he did him a justice by bringing up his collegiate experience.

I think Brandon Roy won Roy and was in school for 4 years.

Trace
03-19-2011, 01:29 PM
UH where is MJ...?

How do you ignore 28ppg 6 apg 6 rpg on 51.5% shooting?

jfree31
03-19-2011, 01:38 PM
blake griffins "REAL" rookie year, O,O,O. was hurt remember

PurpleJesus
03-19-2011, 01:45 PM
blake griffins "REAL" rookie year, O,O,O. was hurt remember

there are real land fake rookie years?

UKblazers
03-19-2011, 02:07 PM
Timmy

JasonJohnHorn
03-19-2011, 02:12 PM
In the post Magic era, I'd have to say David Robinson had the best rookie year.

David Robinson: 23.9 pts, 11.8 brds, 3.8 blks, 1.7 stls, 2 asts, 53% from the floor. Pretty impressive for a rookie. Hakeem's rookie numbers were close to Robinson's.

Magic's numbers, while impressive, were not as impressive as Robinson's, or Wilts, or any other numbers of players, but he came out of college early after winning the national title, and then came in, played like an MVP, won the finals MVP and an nba title in his rookie year, and I can promise you, Robinson, Hakeem, Wilt and anybody else would trade their personal stats for the rookie season Magic had.

Baylor and Alcinder both posted amazing personal stats in their rookie years, but if that is what you are going by, than Wilt gets it hands down.

Blake is not even in the conversation with Robinson and Hakeem.

So: Pre-Magic: Wilt. Post Magic: Robinson. And my vote will go with Magic for best rookie season ever.

WickedBadMan
03-19-2011, 02:53 PM
I feel like a guard has a harder transition to the league than a forward or center, could be ignorant but just an opinion.

AIRMAR72
03-19-2011, 03:09 PM
In the post Magic era, I'd have to say David Robinson had the best rookie year.

David Robinson: 23.9 pts, 11.8 brds, 3.8 blks, 1.7 stls, 2 asts, 53% from the floor. Pretty impressive for a rookie. Hakeem's rookie numbers were close to Robinson's.

Magic's numbers, while impressive, were not as impressive as Robinson's, or Wilts, or any other numbers of players, but he came out of college early after winning the national title, and then came in, played like an MVP, won the finals MVP and an nba title in his rookie year, and I can promise you, Robinson, Hakeem, Wilt and anybody else would trade their personal stats for the rookie season Magic had.

Baylor and Alcinder both posted amazing personal stats in their rookie years, but if that is what you are going by, than Wilt gets it hands down.

Blake is not even in the conversation with Robinson and Hakeem.

So: Pre-Magic: Wilt. Post Magic: Robinson. And my vote will go with Magic for best rookie season ever.

I AGREE its a toss up between him and jordan(there many other who where good too) due to da strong defense that was played backthan robinson 75 points is one the most impressive individual performance ever because da clippers actually try to stop him

RowanJournalist
03-19-2011, 03:15 PM
Wilt. Iverson should be mentioned for his numbers. At one point, he had 5-straight 40-point games in his rookie year. That just doesn't happen anymore.

Crackadalic
03-19-2011, 03:35 PM
Wilt and its not even close. He literary change the game since he came

More-Than-Most
03-19-2011, 03:58 PM
Who has had the greatest rookie season? Some that come to mind are:

1. Magic Johnson, NBA finals MVP, 18 ppg, 7.7 rpg, and 7.3 apg
2. Lue Alcindor, avereged 28.8 ppg & 14.5 rpg, bucks had 29+ wins over previous year
3. Wilt Chamberlain, averaged 37.6 ppg and 27 rpg, ROTY/league MVP
4. Elgin Baylor, 4th ppg, 3rd rbp, 8 apg in league ROTY
5. Blake Griffin, 2nd in league in dunks/gm (but each should count as 5) 2011 ROTY

I havent seen this question posted, if it has been posted recently can someone provide a link?

:speechless: The Other guys are not close.

Cub_StuckinSTL
03-20-2011, 01:38 AM
Bahaha I love how Blakes credentials is that he has the 2nd most dunks per game in the league :laugh:

Doogolas
03-20-2011, 01:44 AM
Um, how is Blake on there over MJ?

bringinwood
03-20-2011, 01:47 AM
Bahaha I love how Blakes credentials is that he has the 2nd most dunks per game in the league :laugh:

:laugh: Right... Who the hell cares how many dunks/PG you average ???

That's like measuring how many cups of water he drinks/PG...


There was Wilt and then there was the rest...

rsweene
03-20-2011, 01:59 PM
Griffin is 2nd in the league for dunks/gm. This is his most impressive stat his dunks are incredible. I could have put, "all star in 1st year and averaging 22 & 12". This doesn't look as impressive when he's right behind Dwight Howard as the league leader in something positive. Rebounds were not an official stat until '73. Dunks can tell a lot about a player.

Also Griffin was the inspiration for this posting. He isn't having the best rookie year of all time, but he got me thinking about who has had a more impressive rookie year.

MJ, Iverson, The Dream, the Admiral are all good choices, and thats what this forum is all about: creating and eveloping ideas. And talking ish/jibberish about how stupid & wrong everyone else is, right? ha

lott42
03-20-2011, 05:58 PM
Oscar putting up 30.5 ppg, 10.1 rpg, and 9.7 apg his rookie season was impressive and noteworthy.

metsrock229
03-20-2011, 06:13 PM
Andy Rautins

Hulk6
03-20-2011, 06:33 PM
tyreke 20-5-5

believeinNYK
03-20-2011, 09:18 PM
Wilt the stilt, case closed

bmd1101
03-20-2011, 09:36 PM
Who has had the greatest rookie season? Some that come to mind are:

1. Magic Johnson, NBA finals MVP, 18 ppg, 7.7 rpg, and 7.3 apg
2. Lue Alcindor, avereged 28.8 ppg & 14.5 rpg, bucks had 29+ wins over previous year
3. Wilt Chamberlain, averaged 37.6 ppg and 27 rpg, ROTY/league MVP
4. Elgin Baylor, 4th ppg, 3rd rbp, 8 apg in league ROTY
5. Blake Griffin, 2nd in league in dunks/gm (but each should count as 5) 2011 ROTY

I havent seen this question posted, if it has been posted recently can someone provide a link?

Griffin is no where close to the top, maybe top 20-30ish hes had a slightly better season then Tyreke Evans last year stat wise maybe.. Dunks dont matter, points are points.

Lake_Show2416
03-20-2011, 09:44 PM
Magic Johnson easy... I'll take a finals MVP with a championship over any stats

Chrisstyles
03-20-2011, 10:48 PM
one guy who hasnt been mentioned in Walt Bellamy. Dude averaged 31.6 points and 19.0 rebounds per game

Jaji
03-20-2011, 11:43 PM
Blake Griffin is not a rookie, I don't care what they say.

Jaji
03-20-2011, 11:45 PM
But to answer the question: Wilt.

MJ-BULLS
03-20-2011, 11:46 PM
Wes Unseld in 1969 and Wilt Chamberlain in 1960.

looks up their careers and see what they did.

Raps18-19 Champ
03-20-2011, 11:49 PM
Wilt won MVP in his rookie season I believe.

Gimme that mofo.

KnicksorBust
03-21-2011, 09:54 AM
My least favorite player pre 90s: Wilt Chamberlain

KnicksorBust
03-21-2011, 09:56 AM
Wes Unseld in 1969 and Wilt Chamberlain in 1960.

looks up their careers and see what they did.

:rolleyes: His sophomore season was even better than his rookie year and he didn't even make the All-Star team. Unseld's MVP is just as tainted as Nash's.