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kswissdaf
02-28-2011, 05:51 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/news/story?id=6167769

oops my bad guys it says sources say its not official close please

JordansBulls
02-28-2011, 05:57 PM
No me gusta esto. El deberia ha firmado con los Toros.

redwhitenblue
02-28-2011, 05:58 PM
I like how there is nothing there signaling the Heat being the first option, just a list of competitors, but the title says something completely different.

D Roses Bulls
02-28-2011, 06:00 PM
I like how there is nothing there signaling the Heat being the first option, just a list of competitors, but the title says something completely different.

of course. since espn gets a hard on for lbj, they dont understand why no one would want to play with him.

Jonathan2323
02-28-2011, 06:01 PM
With buyout secured from Wizards, Mike Bibby headed to Heat sources tell ESPN: http://es.pn/gfzupX

http://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN

Raph12
02-28-2011, 06:02 PM
He's in Miami *****!

I called it

DODGERS&LAKERS
02-28-2011, 06:03 PM
No me gusta esto. El deberia ha firmado con los Toros.

Por que? No te gusta senior Watson?

Gram
02-28-2011, 06:03 PM
I called it

I called that as well actually. :D

Flash3
02-28-2011, 06:06 PM
No me gusta esto. El deberia ha firmado con los Toros.

me gusta mucho esto de mi amigo

Raph12
02-28-2011, 06:06 PM
I called that as well actually. :D

I'm sure a lot of us did, but I claimed calling it first so I get the credit :D

redwhitenblue
02-28-2011, 06:06 PM
Another scenario of "one inside source says", and the rest of the media passing that along making people think multiple people are reporting it.


Bibby to Heat would be smart for him, but there are other teams that can claim him to block him from Miami too.

Flash3
02-28-2011, 06:07 PM
Por que? No te gusta senior Watson?

Watson es el jugador de baloncesto horrible mi amigo

redsox0717
02-28-2011, 06:08 PM
Good signing for them if true, he is shooting at a 44% 3pt clip this year...but doesn't bring much else to the table

Flash3
02-28-2011, 06:09 PM
Another scenario of "one inside source says", and the rest of the media passing that along making people think multiple people are reporting it.


Bibby to Heat would be smart for him, but there are other teams that can claim him to block him from Miami too.

por qué luchar contra lo inevitable de mi amigo?

TheDiggler
02-28-2011, 06:11 PM
Good for the Heat.

gotoHcarolina52
02-28-2011, 06:20 PM
EL Bibbo hace 3 putos mucho bueno para el Miami Heat. Con 3 putos va ganar Miami el Championes!!! Vamos Miami Heat!!! Vamos EL Bibbo!!!! Hace los 3 putos para Miami ganar!!!!! Si!!!! Bueno!!!!! Me gusta!!!!!

JordansBulls
02-28-2011, 06:20 PM
Por que? No te gusta senior Watson?

Porque el no juego bien y las decisiones que el hace son equivocados.

king4day
02-28-2011, 06:25 PM
I changed the title by adding a question mark. Since it's likely to happen it's still threadworthy IMO.

redwhitenblue
02-28-2011, 06:28 PM
Why is Bibby's ASG so low with ATL this year?

RedRicanoBx
02-28-2011, 06:30 PM
Bibby really trying to stick it to atl huh ? Lol

believeinNYK
02-28-2011, 06:36 PM
Nice pickup for the heat, but he isn't a big upgrade over chalmers esp. defensively

YankeeClipper5
02-28-2011, 06:39 PM
Bibby is a nice pick up, def an upgrade over Chalmers and Arroyo.

gotoHcarolina52
02-28-2011, 06:42 PM
porque me da risa que estos pendejos gringos apestosos no saben de que estamos hablando jajajajajajajjajajaja

okay i'm done

hacer tacos for me chihuahua. Go!

Dr Cyanide 28
02-28-2011, 06:42 PM
Someone hit the SAP button.

:laugh:

Jonathan2323
02-28-2011, 06:42 PM
Que esta pasando aqui?

YankeeClipper5
02-28-2011, 06:43 PM
si New Yorko. eso wrong? mi espanol es poquito bueno.

2 days in Hialeah should fix that.

Heater4life
02-28-2011, 06:43 PM
Si, el esta bravo!!!

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



estas bravo???

gotoHcarolina52
02-28-2011, 06:44 PM
2 days in Hialeah should fix that.

Hialeah? Sorry, I'm not from NY. Is that in the Bronx?

YankeeClipper5
02-28-2011, 06:44 PM
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



estas bravo???

hahaha. No, I'm good ascere.

D1JM
02-28-2011, 06:44 PM
Vamos a bailar, esta noche.
Vamos a gozar, hasta la manana.

enrique iglesias?

YankeeClipper5
02-28-2011, 06:45 PM
Hialeah? Sorry, I'm not from NY. Is that in the Bronx?

Miami :facepalm:

Heater4life
02-28-2011, 06:45 PM
2 days in Hialeah should fix that.

El no conoce de Hialeah.

"Hialeah, Hialeah. Mierda, fango, y porqueria!!!!"

YankeeClipper5
02-28-2011, 06:46 PM
La Ciudad que progressa lol

Heater4life
02-28-2011, 06:46 PM
hahaha. No, I'm good ascere.

You said ascere on PSD. LMFAO!!!!

you are officially my friend!

shizzle09
02-28-2011, 06:47 PM
Another scenario of "one inside source says", and the rest of the media passing that along making people think multiple people are reporting it.


Bibby to Heat would be smart for him, but there are other teams that can claim him to block him from Miami too.

If they claim him dont they have to pay the full contract? For some reason nobody ever gets claimed when they are bought out and there has to be a reason for that.

gotoHcarolina52
02-28-2011, 06:47 PM
Hialeah sounds like it should be in Oklahoma somewhere.

RZZZA
02-28-2011, 06:49 PM
enrique iglesias?

ino!

POR QUE?

Heater4life
02-28-2011, 06:49 PM
Hialeah sounds like it should be in Oklahoma somewhere.

you DEFINITELY have never been to hialeah! :laugh:

KingPosey
02-28-2011, 06:49 PM
It really is the best place to go. In Por, Bos, Chi, or LA, he is a back up. He would start in Miami, and his skillset is exactly what they need.

YankeeClipper5
02-28-2011, 06:49 PM
Hialeah sounds like it should be in Oklahoma somewhere.

LOL if you only knew. It's like 96% cuban.

shizzle09
02-28-2011, 06:49 PM
Nice pickup for the heat, but he isn't a big upgrade over chalmers esp. defensively

have you seen chalmers? Bibby can at least command an offense.

Jonathan2323
02-28-2011, 06:49 PM
ino!
POR QUE?

:laugh:

YankeeClipper5
02-28-2011, 06:51 PM
have you seen chalmers? Bibby can at least command an offense.

Who would you guys drop? Howard?

Ripper Gein
02-28-2011, 06:51 PM
ok ive called INS for all you spanish mexicans in here!!! na pura pija nacos:)

RZZZA
02-28-2011, 06:51 PM
rio lloro si quiero, cuanto te ansiaba libertad
mira ves los sueños si exsiten, mi amigo.. la libertad

shizzle09
02-28-2011, 06:53 PM
Who would you guys drop? Howard?

i'm guessing arroyo or magloire. could be howard also.

YankeeClipper5
02-28-2011, 06:54 PM
i'm guessing arroyo or magloire. could be howard also.

Oh ok. Forgot about Magloire.

Pens_fan_21
02-28-2011, 06:56 PM
I really hate the state of the NBA the past ten years...crap like these trades and buyouts are really bad

Heater4life
02-28-2011, 06:56 PM
i'm guessing arroyo or magloire. could be howard also.

most likely drops. Adding two more talented players and getting rid of two non contributors is a definite plus in my book. At the very least it raises the level of competition to see who breaks the rotation.

gotoHcarolina52
02-28-2011, 06:58 PM
you DEFINITELY have never been to hialeah! :laugh:

This place?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knvUE5OOqYY

WTF?! There's a naked fat dude in the city fountain at the end. WTF kind of putrid craphole is this? OMG. :facepalm:

Ripper Gein
02-28-2011, 06:58 PM
I porque tantos threads diciendo ke TODOS los agentes libres se van con miami ya por favor se oyen como los fans de los Nikerboquers.

shep33
02-28-2011, 07:00 PM
I will say this, he can shoot yes. But Chalmers is far better defensively by miles.. there is a reason why Atlanta traded him for Hinrich.

Heater4life
02-28-2011, 07:02 PM
This place?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knvUE5OOqYY

WTF?! There's a naked fat dude in the city fountain at the end. WTF kind of putrid craphole is this? OMG. :facepalm:

LMFAO!!!!!!!

/thread

YankeeClipper5
02-28-2011, 07:02 PM
This place?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knvUE5OOqYY

WTF?! There's a naked fat dude in the city fountain at the end. WTF kind of putrid craphole is this? OMG. :facepalm:

WOW in a million years I would have never guessed this video would somehow make it to PSD. Props :clap:

I'm not from there, but if you've been there or know ppl from there it's kind if an inside joke.

Jewelz0376
02-28-2011, 07:04 PM
eh..too me he's not much different than House..he will be nothing more than a spot up shooter....except he's even worse on D than House..

Jonathan2323
02-28-2011, 07:04 PM
This place?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knvUE5OOqYY

WTF?! There's a naked fat dude in the city fountain at the end. WTF kind of putrid craphole is this? OMG. :facepalm:

that is the funniest **** ever.

SteBO
02-28-2011, 07:05 PM
I will say this, he can shoot yes. But Chalmers is far better defensively by miles.. there is a reason why Atlanta traded him for Hinrich.
But Bibby is an upgrade over Chalmers, and he knows to run a team, unlike Mario. There's a reason why Pat Riley wanted Chauncey Billups and everyone else says Chalmers simply isn't good. It was all on display last night.

Heater4life
02-28-2011, 07:06 PM
WOW in a million years I would have never guessed this video would somehow make it to PSD. Props :clap:

I'm not from there, but if you've been there or know ppl from there it's kind if an inside joke.

x100

Between the video and ascere, i think im going to take my chances with a lotto ticket tonight. Apparently anything can happen today.

*Silver&Black*
02-28-2011, 07:07 PM
LOL @ people saying Bibby sucks when he was with the Hawks, now signing with the Heat, he is good again or something.

FUN Fact: Hawks are 2-0 on the road with Teague and Hinrich (blow-out games, which got closer at the end, but thats a different story) and WITHOUT BIBBY!

YankeeClipper5
02-28-2011, 07:07 PM
But Bibby is an upgrade over Chalmers, and he knows to run a team, unlike Mario. There's a reason why Pat Riley wanted Chauncey Billups and everyone else says Chalmers simply isn't good. It was all on display last night.

True. Bibby doesn't miss that wide open lay up.

justinnum1
02-28-2011, 07:07 PM
If bibby can hit wide open 3's, then he's already beter than chalmers and arroyo.

YankeeClipper5
02-28-2011, 07:08 PM
x100

Between the video and ascere, i think im going to take my chances with a lotto ticket tonight. Apparently anything can happen today.


Powerball!!


Maybe Garnett was right. " Anything is possible"

shep33
02-28-2011, 07:10 PM
But Bibby is an upgrade over Chalmers, and he knows to run a team, unlike Mario. There's a reason why Pat Riley wanted Chauncey Billups and everyone else says Chalmers simply isn't good. It was all on display last night.

Yeah I guess Stebo, but I mean aren't Lebron and Wade going to handle the ball anyways? I will say that he is better than Chalmers offensively, but on defense... I dunno, man. We'll see. I think Murphy would be ideal for you guys though.

*Silver&Black*
02-28-2011, 07:17 PM
The funny thing is IF Bibby starts in the playoffs, Wade would have to guard Rose, Rondo, and Nelson. A player like Joe Johnson didn't mind because he doesn't care about his rep, so it will be fun to see if Wade has what it takes to be burned by Rose and Rondo in the playoffs.

Hoopsadvocate
02-28-2011, 07:17 PM
Getting bibby means two BIG things for Miami:

1. Turnovers will go wayyyy down as hes a legit pg and has lower turnover numbers so no more dumb turnovers because we dont have a real pg handling the ball.

2. A pg who can finally hit wide open 3's. Mario and arroyo have been so inconsistent in this but Bibby was shooting amazing from the 3 early this season.

Not to mention hes got great exp in big games (kings v lakers) and is a proven facilitator (though i guess his assist numbers have dipped recently) but hes a real pg.

*Silver&Black*
02-28-2011, 07:18 PM
Heat's PG D will suck though. That's Big. Time to see Rose and Rondo getting into the paint more than ever.

Funny Heat fans saying Bibby is a real PG when everybody ripped the Hawks saying they needed a real PG. Oh how homers are!

Hoopsadvocate
02-28-2011, 07:19 PM
The funny thing is IF Bibby starts in the playoffs, Wade would have to guard Rose, Rondo, and Nelson. A player like Joe Johnson didn't mind because he doesn't care about his rep, so it will be fun to see if Wade has what it takes to be burned by Rose and Rondo in the playoffs.

He was already guarding those guys along with lebron.

shizzle09
02-28-2011, 07:42 PM
Heat's PG D will suck though. That's Big. Time to see Rose and Rondo getting into the paint more than ever.

Funny Heat fans saying Bibby is a real PG when everybody ripped the Hawks saying they needed a real PG. Oh how homers are!

LMFAO, everyone is saying he is better than chalmers. calm the f down.

Jahari Kavi
02-28-2011, 07:44 PM
Heat's PG D will suck though. That's Big. Time to see Rose and Rondo getting into the paint more than ever.

Funny Heat fans saying Bibby is a real PG when everybody ripped the Hawks saying they needed a real PG. Oh how homers are!

Bibby isn't great defensively, but I think you can afford that whole with what he brings all together plus the fact that Miami is getting Murphy and Haslem back........their depth will be insane........

LayZbone
02-28-2011, 07:46 PM
Well anyone who thinks that Chalmers is a good defender is insane. He's a pick-pocket/thief, but his speed and quickness is just laughable. He can't stay in front of anyone, which is why most of the time he flops and tries to sell contact to the refs. He gambles, he's sporadic on both ends of the floor and he's turnover prone. His inconsistent shooting could be a sparkplug off the bench, but then again he can come in and suck it up, and then Spo won't play him for the rest of the game. Thus is the story of Mario Chalmers.

SteBO
02-28-2011, 07:46 PM
Yeah I guess Stebo, but I mean aren't Lebron and Wade going to handle the ball anyways? I will say that he is better than Chalmers offensively, but on defense... I dunno, man. We'll see. I think Murphy would be ideal for you guys though.
Chalmers is better defensively than Bibby, yes, which is why I can still see Mario still starting for us if Bibby signs. On the offensive side though, Bibby is a definite upgrade. Murphy without a doubt is an ideal pickup.

footballer2369
02-28-2011, 07:48 PM
The funny thing is IF Bibby starts in the playoffs, Wade would have to guard Rose, Rondo, and Nelson. A player like Joe Johnson didn't mind because he doesn't care about his rep, so it will be fun to see if Wade has what it takes to be burned by Rose and Rondo in the playoffs.

Heard of Lebron and Mario Chalmers?

SteBO
02-28-2011, 07:48 PM
Heat's PG D will suck though. That's Big. Time to see Rose and Rondo getting into the paint more than ever.

Funny Heat fans saying Bibby is a real PG when everybody ripped the Hawks saying they needed a real PG. Oh how homers are!
What's wrong with you? Bibby>Chalmers. Calm down bruh.

footballer2369
02-28-2011, 07:49 PM
Heat's PG D will suck though. That's Big. Time to see Rose and Rondo getting into the paint more than ever.

Funny Heat fans saying Bibby is a real PG when everybody ripped the Hawks saying they needed a real PG. Oh how homers are!

Really? I don't remember anyone talking about the Hawks...:confused:

justinnum1
02-28-2011, 07:49 PM
not a bad pick up for the heat

LayZbone
02-28-2011, 07:52 PM
I just want someone who's experienced/composed/level-headed, can knock down open 3s and play solid defense. At least Bibby is 2 of those things, which is more than any current Heat PG can say.

Jemikz9Clutch
02-28-2011, 07:54 PM
Really? I don't remember anyone talking about the Hawks...:confused:

:laugh:

shizzle09
02-28-2011, 08:08 PM
anyone know when Bibby clears waivers?

GeekInThePink
02-28-2011, 08:10 PM
solid pick up, if the Heat pick up Murphy the rest of the league is ****ed.

Bravo95
02-28-2011, 08:17 PM
With limited minutes, he can be a decent spot up shooter imo but still a turnstyle on defense which will hurt vs these tough PGs in the East come playoff time.

marlinsfan24
02-28-2011, 08:18 PM
anyone know when Bibby clears waivers?

Wednesday. Same with Murphy

shizzle09
02-28-2011, 08:20 PM
Wednesday. Same with Murphy

nice, thanks

icej
02-28-2011, 09:17 PM
Any NBA active starter/backup PG would be an Upgrade to Chalmers, and Arroyo.

The last 7 plays of Miami VS knicks is the prime example. Someone needs bring down the ball and make the 1st play for LBJ and Wade, They will be a lot better being the recipient of the offense not the other way around.

Bibby is no longer an Allstar caliber player that he was, but one thing that Miami could use right now is an EXPERIENCED floor general, and bibby is just that if they get him.
Plus he's known to consistently shoot open 3's not an asset that chalmers posses.

People who don't respect Bibby's defense has not been around when bibby play's in sacramento along with christie in the back court, that defense is devastating because they play very efficient team defense-- Bibby is capable to play very good team defense. He should fit very well in Miami IF they could get him.

knicks4life33
02-28-2011, 09:20 PM
wow big diffrence changer lol

unleashthebeast
02-28-2011, 09:34 PM
Nice pickup for the heat, but he isn't a big upgrade over chalmers esp. defensively

hes still a pretty big sized upgrade. and its not like we r cutting chalmers, we r getting rid of arroyo most likely :dance: this allows us to have a solid 2 man rotation at pg instead of chalmers playing lots of minutes due to arroyos shittiness

Heater4life
02-28-2011, 09:44 PM
Heat's PG D will suck though.

It already does. Thats part of the problem down here. Where Bibby does provide the upgrade is: A) Leadership; can get us into sets much more effciently B) Experience; come playoff time i want someone who's been there and isnt afraid of big moments. (Bibby has killed the Heat with timely shooting in the past) C) Consistent shooting; if Bibby can knock down the open three this vastly opens up the floor for us. (Bibby currently is 8% more accurate than Chalmers from 3, if Mario shot that he would have hit an extra 25 3's this years)

Bibby isnt anything special, but hes definitely an upgrade for our team.

Nikeman
02-28-2011, 09:44 PM
Heat haters lol..

Come on guys, Bibby is not what he once was, but he will definitely help the Heat. Even this crap Bibby is putting up 10 points per game and getting 4 assists, which is more than enough for Miami. He will be a "floor general" as someone as stated, and thats something Miami truly lacks. He may be poor on defense, but Chalmers/Arroyo aren't exactly dominant. I'm sure Bibby will work hard and do just fine. To the people who say Rose/Rondo will torch him, we usually put LBJ on Rondo, and Rose scored like 23 points on us shooting in the 30% range.

He will be huge for Miami. Unlike Chalmers/Arroyo, you can count on this guy to hit the open shots. Even this season the dude is shooting the 3 at 44%.

Bulls_fan90
02-28-2011, 09:48 PM
Always liked Bibby. Not what he was, but still a solid pickup.

THE MTL
02-28-2011, 09:48 PM
I still cant believe he gave up all that money

Arch Stanton
02-28-2011, 09:49 PM
Bibby is definitely a nice upgrade at the PG position for the Heat. But I'd rather have Rondo, Rose, Billups, and even Nelson over Bibby. I'm not trashing the Heat for making this move it needed to be done. But I'm interested in seeing how much better he actually makes them.

marlinsfan24
02-28-2011, 09:50 PM
Bibby is definitely a nice upgrade at the PG position for the Heat. But I'd rather have Rondo, Rose, Billups, and even Nelson over Bibby. I'm not trashing the Heat for making this move it needed to be done. But I'm interested in seeing how much better he actually makes them.

Yeah there's no doubt those are better players, but Bibby definitely solidifies a spot in the lineup that the Heat were lacking at. Also, Bibby has playoff experience and can knock down big shots in big situations, as he did for the Hawks in the past.

Lakers4ItAll
02-28-2011, 09:51 PM
Bibby should be getting looked at by alot of teams

Nikeman
02-28-2011, 09:56 PM
Bibby is definitely a nice upgrade at the PG position for the Heat. But I'd rather have Rondo, Rose, Billups, and even Nelson over Bibby. I'm not trashing the Heat for making this move it needed to be done. But I'm interested in seeing how much better he actually makes them.

No ****, but the Heat can't get any of them.

Chi StateOfMind
02-28-2011, 10:35 PM
would be better then chalmers or arroyo

icej
02-28-2011, 10:51 PM
Here's the comparison:

Comparing 3 Pt and Asst stat this season 2010-2011 - Bibby - Chalmers - Arroyo

Bibby - 113 3pt FG - (43.5 fg%) + 3.6 Asst/pg

Chalmers -67 3pt FG -(35.8%) +2.3 Asst/pg

Arroyo - 28 3pt FG - (43.8%) + 2.0 Asst/pg

Tells you everything you need to know offensively. While I insist that chalmers is only a good 1on1 defender but not a team defender.

1 on 1 defense is different than team defense, bibby is not a good 1 on1 defender (and is obviously a step behind his prime) but has been a very intelligent team defender back in SAC.

kblo247
02-28-2011, 10:54 PM
Heat haters lol..

Come on guys, Bibby is not what he once was, but he will definitely help the Heat. Even this crap Bibby is putting up 10 points per game and getting 4 assists, which is more than enough for Miami. He will be a "floor general" as someone as stated, and thats something Miami truly lacks. He may be poor on defense, but Chalmers/Arroyo aren't exactly dominant. I'm sure Bibby will work hard and do just fine. To the people who say Rose/Rondo will torch him, we usually put LBJ on Rondo, and Rose scored like 23 points on us shooting in the 30% range.

He will be huge for Miami. Unlike Chalmers/Arroyo, you can count on this guy to hit the open shots. Even this season the dude is shooting the 3 at 44%.I don't think people are getting what an old dawg, battle tested floor general will do for you.

When people laughed at the Melo trade I kept saying they are getting Billups too. Billups has plenty of game, knows how to take over, and commands the respect of being able to tell Melo and Amare where to get off.

People discount Fisher, but I bet you can ask Orlando about game 3, Boston about game 3, and Jazz fans who watched the last three playoff series between LA and the then Deron Jazz what having a veteran guy who always believes in himself, can rally the troops, and play big on the road means. Hell you can tell Kobe that Fisher isn't essential and he would rip you to shreds.

Bibby will give LeBron, Wade, and Bosh exactly what they need. A guy who can hit big shots and isn't afraid to take them or tell any of them where to get off. They need a personality that can check theirs just like Melo/Stat and Kobe. Bibby will be value in the playoffs and gives them a better chance of making noise than they had going into otherwise. He lacks the ability to defend but so does Chauncey, Fish, Tony, and just about every other playoff guard without team defense because of rules.

gotoHcarolina52
02-28-2011, 10:58 PM
El Bibbo de Pelota

icej
02-28-2011, 11:07 PM
I don't think people are getting what an old dawg, battle tested floor general will do for you.

When people laughed at the Melo trade I kept saying they are getting Billups too. Billups has plenty of game, knows how to take over, and commands the respect of being able to tell Melo and Amare where to get off.

People discount Fisher, but I bet you can ask Orlando about game 3, Boston about game 3, and Jazz fans who watched the last three playoff series between LA and the then Deron Jazz what having a veteran guy who always believes in himself, can rally the troops, and play big on the road means. Hell you can tell Kobe that Fisher isn't essential and he would rip you to shreds.

Bibby will give LeBron, Wade, and Bosh exactly what they need. A guy who can hit big shots and isn't afraid to take them or tell any of them where to get off. They need a personality that can check theirs just like Melo/Stat and Kobe. Bibby will be value in the playoffs and gives them a better chance of making noise than they had going into otherwise. He lacks the ability to defend but so does Chauncey, Fish, Tony, and just about every other playoff guard without team defense because of rules.

Well said, I agree.

This should now let LBJ/Wade get the ball in the half court, an overlooked disadvantage in Miami's offense, efficiency was being sacrificed by either bringing down the ball, positioning and cramming in shot clock has played vital roles in their losses. A good PG knows where to put the 1st pass to expose the miss matches, Miami has not capitalize on that because of poor PG execution.

marlinsfan24
02-28-2011, 11:27 PM
I don't think people are getting what an old dawg, battle tested floor general will do for you.

When people laughed at the Melo trade I kept saying they are getting Billups too. Billups has plenty of game, knows how to take over, and commands the respect of being able to tell Melo and Amare where to get off.

People discount Fisher, but I bet you can ask Orlando about game 3, Boston about game 3, and Jazz fans who watched the last three playoff series between LA and the then Deron Jazz what having a veteran guy who always believes in himself, can rally the troops, and play big on the road means. Hell you can tell Kobe that Fisher isn't essential and he would rip you to shreds.

Bibby will give LeBron, Wade, and Bosh exactly what they need. A guy who can hit big shots and isn't afraid to take them or tell any of them where to get off. They need a personality that can check theirs just like Melo/Stat and Kobe. Bibby will be value in the playoffs and gives them a better chance of making noise than they had going into otherwise. He lacks the ability to defend but so does Chauncey, Fish, Tony, and just about every other playoff guard without team defense because of rules.

This. I have always believed that Fisher has been as responsible as anyone for the Lakers past 5 championships. The team wasn't the same after he left. But gained back an edge when he returned.

P-O-Z
02-28-2011, 11:29 PM
No ****, but the Heat can't get any of them.

Lmao

beasted86
02-28-2011, 11:34 PM
Really? I don't remember anyone talking about the Hawks...:confused:

:laugh:

Lake_Show2416
03-01-2011, 01:31 AM
No ****, but the Heat can't get any of them.

haha

Arch Stanton
03-01-2011, 02:49 AM
No ****, but the Heat can't get any of them.

When was the last time a buyout player really made an impact?

shizzle09
03-01-2011, 05:57 AM
When was the last time a buyout player really made an impact?

wow, Alonzo freaking mourning son! We dont win the title without Zo holding it down in the playoffs behind shaq.

shizzle09
03-01-2011, 05:59 AM
Lmao

You're sig pic is sick as ****!!!

Heater4life
03-01-2011, 11:03 AM
I don't think people are getting what an old dawg, battle tested floor general will do for you.

When people laughed at the Melo trade I kept saying they are getting Billups too. Billups has plenty of game, knows how to take over, and commands the respect of being able to tell Melo and Amare where to get off.

People discount Fisher, but I bet you can ask Orlando about game 3, Boston about game 3, and Jazz fans who watched the last three playoff series between LA and the then Deron Jazz what having a veteran guy who always believes in himself, can rally the troops, and play big on the road means. Hell you can tell Kobe that Fisher isn't essential and he would rip you to shreds.

Bibby will give LeBron, Wade, and Bosh exactly what they need. A guy who can hit big shots and isn't afraid to take them or tell any of them where to get off. They need a personality that can check theirs just like Melo/Stat and Kobe. Bibby will be value in the playoffs and gives them a better chance of making noise than they had going into otherwise. He lacks the ability to defend but so does Chauncey, Fish, Tony, and just about every other playoff guard without team defense because of rules.

THIS^

Theres some vets whos influence is irreplaceable. Fisher may not wow anyone with stats or with fancy plays, but come playoff time the man is more valuable than most. Experience, leadership, knowledge, clutch, focus, determination, etc. Thats what those vets bring and its extremely valuable.

DITKA4GOV
03-01-2011, 02:00 PM
Bibby the great white hope... that's hilarious. He has lost a step or two... but I do think his intelligence is needed on the Heat. He is a coach on the floor type of PG, which differs from Chalmers/Arroyo. None the less, does Bibby make a huge difference for this team... Nah. Adds a somewhat big name, yet slight improvement to the team.

justinnum1
03-01-2011, 02:14 PM
It's a no lose situation...at the worst, bibby is better than chalmers and arroyo. If he can consistently hit he 3, and help initiate some half court offense, it could pay nice dividends, especially in the playoffs.

Heater4life
03-01-2011, 02:15 PM
Bibby the great white hope... that's hilarious. He has lost a step or two... but I do think his intelligence is needed on the Heat. He is a coach on the floor type of PG, which differs from Chalmers/Arroyo. None the less, does Bibby make a huge difference for this team... Nah. Adds a somewhat big name, yet slight improvement to the team.

A consistent 3pt shot, a guy that can effectively get his team into sets, and a leader who isnt afraid of big shots is a HUGE difference for Miami at the PG position. Is Mike Bibby anything special? No. But he fills a void.

JARVIS123
03-01-2011, 02:31 PM
according to espn we cut arroyo to sign bibby.great pick up for us.a point who can create for hisself & others.while hitting the 3 at a high %.not worried about his d cause aint like the points we have play good d anyways.he'll make up for his d on the offensive end.

ravistarr
03-01-2011, 02:53 PM
No me gusta esto. El deberia ha firmado con los Toros.


"El deberia HABER firmado..." ;)

Mile High Champ
03-01-2011, 04:15 PM
It's a no lose situation...at the worst, bibby is better than chalmers and arroyo. If he can consistently hit he 3, and help initiate some half court offense, it could pay nice dividends, especially in the playoffs.

I don't think Bibby at this stage of the game is better than Chalmers. Bibby remains a good outside shooter but his ability to create for other is non existent. I don't see the move really paying off too much. I actually see Bibby as and Eddie House type player at this stage of his career. Plus Bibby is a very below average defensive PG at this stage of the game.

justinnum1
03-01-2011, 04:43 PM
I don't think Bibby at this stage of the game is better than Chalmers. Bibby remains a good outside shooter but his ability to create for other is non existent. I don't see the move really paying off too much. I actually see Bibby as and Eddie House type player at this stage of his career. Plus Bibby is a very below average defensive PG at this stage of the game.

Its the mistakes chalmers makes...you obviously dont watch the heat, but bibby>chalmers

Giantwarrior
03-01-2011, 04:50 PM
Bibby is smart giving up the 6 million. they are going to lock out next year anyway, so its not like he will be getting paid.

gotoHcarolina52
03-01-2011, 05:05 PM
"El debería HABER firmado..." ;)

;);)

Mile High Champ
03-01-2011, 05:08 PM
Its the mistakes chalmers makes...you obviously dont watch the heat, but bibby>chalmers

You obviously don't watch Mike Bibby if you believe that to be the case. Bibby is a back up PG at best in this league and I do think he can help the heat as he is better than Arroyo but him and Chalmers is debatable.

beasted86
03-01-2011, 05:16 PM
Its the mistakes chalmers makes...you obviously dont watch the heat, but bibby>chalmers

Yeah, I don't think enough people watch Chalmers getting pressured bringing the ball up the floor every game, and either turning it over or nearly turning it over at least once a game just doing something this simple every starting PG should be able to do with ease.

Nobody respects him as a ball handler, or spot up shooter.

Bulls4Lyfe
03-01-2011, 05:18 PM
You obviously don't watch Mike Bibby if you believe that to be the case. Bibby is a back up PG at best in this league and I do think he can help the heat as he is better than Arroyo but him and Chalmers is debatable.

people seriously overrate mario chalmers...bibby is clearly better him. chalmers doesn't know how to run the offense (always slowing us down), makes terrible decisions, not a good defender, inconsistent shooter. bibby is obviously not a good/great defender, but we have good team-d and can hide him on that end. he fits the heat well on offense. he's an experienced pg that can run the offense and make smart decisions, and he can consistently knock down an open 3.

GSwarriors4LIFE
03-01-2011, 05:19 PM
Isn't house related to him in some way??? If Bibby takes a sip from the fountain of youth(ask G. Hill) he can really help the Heat run smart plays in the last minutes of games(especially against +500 teams and in the playoffs). He probably knows this is his last shot at getting a title and might leave everything he gots on the court. Anyways he's a good guy and I hope he has fun playing with batman and robin(and catwoman).

m26555
03-01-2011, 05:21 PM
Bibby obviously isn't even close to the player he once was, but his experience and ability to shoot the three ball should definitely help Miami. Only problem is his defense. Point guards like Rondo and Rose will run rings around him come playoff time.

SteBO
03-01-2011, 05:24 PM
Bibby obviously isn't even close to the player he once was, but his experience and ability to shoot the three ball should definitely help Miami. Only problem is his defense. Point guards like Rondo and Rose will run rings around him come playoff time.
That isn't even debatable. We're still going to end up putting LeBron on those guys at the end of games, but as you said, Bibby spreads the floor better and knows how to run a team. He also earns respect from LeBron and Wade, unlike Chalmers. He just has a very low IQ for the game.

m26555
03-01-2011, 05:26 PM
That isn't even debatable. We're still going to end up putting LeBron on those guys at the end of games, but as you said, Bibby spreads the floor better and knows how to run a team. He also earns respect from LeBron and Wade, unlike Chalmers. He just has a very low IQ for the game.
I'm curious to hear your opinion on putting LeBron on Rondo late in games, because if I were a Heat fan, I'd much rather have him keeping Pierce in check at that stage of the contest.

Jonathan2323
03-01-2011, 05:28 PM
For those saying Bibby's defense sucks so did Arroyo's. When Arroyo was starting, the HEAT still had one of the best defensive teams.

SteBO
03-01-2011, 05:31 PM
I'm curious to hear your opinion on putting LeBron on Rondo late in games, because if I were a Heat fan, I'd much rather have him keeping Pierce in check at that stage of the contest.
I actually agree with you. Wade, as you know, has sucked against BOS, so putting Wade on Rondo makes the most sense, if he doesn't have it going offensively. I don't want Rondo wearing out LeBron on the offensive end. To me, this is how the defensive assignments should look at the end of games......

Wade guards Rondo
LeBron guards Pierce
Bosh guards KG(though KG has torched him in past)
Mike Miller guards Ray
Dampier guards whichever center is in the game. I guess Big Baby, but that spells trouble. Davis is very quick and agile for his size, so I guess Joel Anthony would have to deal with him. Just my thinking. This is only if Haslem isn't back, though.

CostanzaNumba0
03-01-2011, 05:32 PM
this is a great move for the heat, bibby can still be effective and can hit the open 3 with tremendous consistency

gotoHcarolina52
03-01-2011, 05:33 PM
EL Bibbo Grande Pelota!!!!! Riley Inteligente!!!

JordansBulls
03-01-2011, 05:34 PM
Is he going to start with the Heat?

210Don
03-01-2011, 05:35 PM
well now theres reports the spurs are interested in him its not a done deal he goes to mia

Jonathan2323
03-01-2011, 05:36 PM
well now theres reports the spurs are interested in him its not a done deal he goes to mia

I heard you might pick up Arroyo.

http://twitter.com/IraHeatBeat

justinnum1
03-01-2011, 05:41 PM
well now theres reports the spurs are interested in him its not a done deal he goes to mia

we already cut arroyo...bibby is going to miami

Tuck&Rolle
03-01-2011, 05:44 PM
I would love to see Bibby go to the Spurs lol

DROSE4MVP
03-01-2011, 05:44 PM
we already cut arroyo...bibby is going to miami

That don't mean he's going there. You guys may be the favorites right now, but I haven't seen anything confirm it. I'm pretty sure he's still mulling between some teams. Maybe he wants to play for the Lakers or something...

Hoopsadvocate
03-01-2011, 05:46 PM
That don't mean he's going there. You guys may be the favorites right now, but I haven't seen anything confirm it. I'm pretty sure he's still mulling between some teams. Maybe he wants to play for the Lakers or something...

U think Pat riley would cut our guy and our players including bibbys brother in law would comment about him joining if he wasnt already coming here??

Its not official until he clears waivers on wednsday but its as good as done.

justinnum1
03-01-2011, 05:46 PM
That don't mean he's going there. You guys may be the favorites right now, but I haven't seen anything confirm it. I'm pretty sure he's still mulling between some teams. Maybe he wants to play for the Lakers or something...

:facepalm:

210Don
03-01-2011, 05:47 PM
we already cut arroyo...bibby is going to miami

i wouldnt mind him as a back up or 3rd string

DROSE4MVP
03-01-2011, 05:49 PM
U think Pat riley would cut our guy and our players including bibbys brother in law would comment about him joining if he wasnt already coming here??

Its not official until he clears waivers on wednsday but its as good as done.


:facepalm:

Okay, damn. I was just stating my opinion. No need to face-palm me, troll.

SteBO
03-01-2011, 05:51 PM
i wouldnt mind him as a back up or 3rd string
Ugh, he's going to MIA. Are doing this to piss off heat fans? Because it's apparently working.

210Don
03-01-2011, 05:52 PM
Ugh, he's going to MIA. Are doing this to piss off heat fans? Because it's apparently working.

im talking about arroyo :facepalm:

gotoHcarolina52
03-01-2011, 05:52 PM
well now theres reports the spurs are interested in him its not a done deal he goes to mia

Sorry, boo. It's about as done a deal as there is:


Western Conf source: San Antonio, while ardently pursuing Bibby, has been informed the guard will sign with Miami. Spurs may turn to Arroyo.

http://twitter.com/#!/WTRD_TheSource/status/42703260863307776

210Don
03-01-2011, 05:53 PM
lol guess we jumped in there in the last second for bibby.
arroyo would be alrite

gotoHcarolina52
03-01-2011, 05:57 PM
lol guess we jumped in there in the last second for bibby.
arroyo would be alrite

Who knows, maybe you guys will get Corey Brewer AND Carlos Arroyo. Whoa! :clap:

210Don
03-01-2011, 05:59 PM
Who knows, maybe you guys will get Corey Brewer AND Carlos Arroyo. Whoa! :clap:

that be crazy but i doubt we get either one

gotoHcarolina52
03-01-2011, 06:04 PM
that be crazy but i doubt we get either one

I think Arroyo would be serviceable for you guys. Don't know much about Brewer. Spurs are my 2nd favorite team after my hometown Heat. Lots of respect for Pop. Hope you guys keep tearing the west apart.

SteBO
03-01-2011, 06:27 PM
im talking about arroyo :facepalm:
:o My bad