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godolphins
02-26-2011, 01:17 PM
Do you guys consider Stoudamire to be a above average, average or below average rebounder?

I just want to get opinions of people from this forum

Lake_Show2416
02-26-2011, 01:25 PM
haha I picked above average by mistake

but I think he's below average, his rebounding is terrible.. for a guy that's so athletic, big and having his leaping ability I just don't see how he can average 8 rebounds on the Knicks.. the same team that David Lee was able to get 20 n 10

justinnum1
02-26-2011, 01:29 PM
his numbers should be at least better than david lee's from last season

godolphins
02-26-2011, 01:31 PM
haha I picked above average by mistake

but I think he's below average, his rebounding is terrible.. for a guy that's so athletic, big and having his leaping ability I just don't see how he can average 8 rebounds on the Knicks.. the same team that David Lee was able to get 20 n 10

Below average? Averaging 8.5 rebounds per game isn't above average at all. He's in the top 20 in RPG

AustinCollie17
02-26-2011, 01:31 PM
he is good he is no dwight howard but he is average

godolphins
02-26-2011, 01:34 PM
I'm not just talking about this season with tge Knicks I'm taking about overall, one season with the Suns he averages nearly 10 RPG at 9.7

LTBaByyy
02-26-2011, 01:36 PM
He is top 20 in rebounds

and there is how many post in the NBA?? Yeah he is def above average

come on yall stop the jokes

TanMidas
02-26-2011, 01:37 PM
He's average at best. For his height and athletic ability however he should be averaging a lot more rebounds especially while playing under such a fast pace offense his entire career.

ChiSox219
02-26-2011, 01:39 PM
Below average? Averaging 8.5 rebounds per game isn't above average at all. He's in the top 20 in RPG

In regards to the rest of the league, you could say Amare is above average. He grabs ~14% of available rebounds compared to the league average of ~10%

If you look at it by PF or C only, Amare is below average

PF Rebound Rate: 13.8%
C Rebound Rate: 14.8%
Amare: 13.2%

If you take out the players who don't average 20 mpg and have played less than 30 games, the positional averages go up and Amare looks even worse by comparison:

PF Rebound Rate: 14.8%
C Rebound Rate: 15.4%
Amare: 13.2%

Slimsim
02-26-2011, 01:45 PM
Would had prefer if this thread wasn't started by the well known Knick hater

justinnum1
02-26-2011, 01:46 PM
After watching that game last night, average at best...only reason he has as many as he does, is no one else on the team can rebound it.

godolphins
02-26-2011, 01:47 PM
In regards to the rest of the league, you could say Amare is above average. He grabs ~14% of available rebounds compared to the league average of ~10%

If you look at it by PF or C only, Amare is below average

PF Rebound Rate: 13.8%
C Rebound Rate: 14.8%
Amare: 13.2%

If you take out the players who don't average 20 mpg and have played less than 30 games, the positional averages go up and Amare looks even worse by comparison:

PF Rebound Rate: 14.8%
C Rebound Rate: 15.4%
Amare: 13.2%
That's only this season but I'm talking about overall in his career

godolphins
02-26-2011, 01:50 PM
Would had prefer if this thread wasn't started by the well known Knick hater

I'm not a Knick hater at all and I'm not even bad mouthing Stoudamire

ChiSox219
02-26-2011, 01:51 PM
That's only this season but I'm talking about overall in his career

His career rebound rate is 14.6% and he's had one exceptional year. I'd say he's average to below average, not taking into account his size and explosiveness.

Lake_Show2416
02-26-2011, 01:51 PM
That's only this season but I'm talking about overall in his career

he's been the same way throughout his career, he didn't become a different player simply over the offseason

terrible rebounding, no excuses when your the only rebounding option on your team (both Suns n Knicks) n only nabbing 8 average

DLeeicious
02-26-2011, 01:52 PM
People always confuse Amare's underachieving rebounding ability as awful rebounding. Don't get that confused. He is probably the most underachieving rebounder in the league but overall he is probably a slightly below average rebounder. He should be well above average, he just doesn't work hard enough for it. If he took pride in rebounding he would be way better overall.

GMENMVP
02-26-2011, 01:53 PM
Personally, I'd say average. He definitely has the ability to be above average, but when the system has four guys running to the opposite end as soon as the ball is in the air, it's not very easy. At one point near the end of the game, where it was apparent that no one else besides Melo(kind of) could get a board, he had a span where he had like 4 in a minute and a half. I'm not sure if it's lack of effort or technique, but he could average 10+.

Chest Rockwell
02-26-2011, 01:57 PM
It's above average but not elite like Love, Howard, or Griffin.

$GangGr33n$
02-26-2011, 01:59 PM
He is actually a really good rebounder but he's just so damn lazy when it comes to anything that isn't offense. Unless the knicks are losing, a lot of time he doesn't even go for the rebound unless it goes right to h (which pisses me off!) And he also doesn't even jump for the board unless the knicks are losing( which again pisses me off) when he hustles and tries though he's one of the better rebounders in the league IMO

godolphins
02-26-2011, 02:17 PM
His career rebound rate is 14.6% and he's had one exceptional year. I'd say he's average to below average, not taking into account his size and explosiveness.

Which would make him at least a average rebounder

godolphins
02-26-2011, 02:23 PM
he's been the same way throughout his career, he didn't become a different player simply over the offseason

terrible rebounding, no excuses when your the only rebounding option on your team (both Suns n Knicks) n only nabbing 8 average
Stoudamire is not a terrible rebounder at all I wouldn't call someone who average at least 8 RPG a terrible rebounder

bovice163
02-26-2011, 02:24 PM
He's a below average rebounder, but not terrible. Bargnani and Brook Lopez are terrible rebounders.

RangersMets
02-26-2011, 02:34 PM
this just proves the obvious knicks hate on these forums

metspride21
02-26-2011, 02:36 PM
His career rebound rate is 14.6% and he's had one exceptional year. I'd say he's average to below average, not taking into account his size and explosiveness.

-this. I wonder how someone like him can throw down such powerful dunks, and thrown down such powerful blocks,..but the rebounding is a problem.
he seems to be just put to (rebounding) shame but guys like Evans, and love
he has to step up his defense and his rebounding if we are going to do anything

and im a lifetime knicks fan:clap:

metspride21
02-26-2011, 02:37 PM
He's a below average rebounder, but not terrible. Bargnani and Brook Lopez are terrible rebounders.

-this
x2 for real, lol

godolphins
02-26-2011, 02:37 PM
this just proves the obvious knicks hate on these forums

:nod: The guy is not a terrible rebounder he's average at the least

Raph12
02-26-2011, 02:42 PM
Short answer... Avg.

DwayneMVPwade
02-26-2011, 02:43 PM
average

John Walls Era
02-26-2011, 02:46 PM
Below Avg.

Omar Little
02-26-2011, 02:56 PM
He's average at best, but when you factor in his size, strength and athleticism he becomes a below average rebounder. With his all his physical attributes there is no reason that he should average less then 10 boards a game.

Bornknick73
02-26-2011, 03:10 PM
Hes average. A average guy can grab 8 a game, a above average guy grabs 12 a game. Speaking of PF and Cs of course.

But he did have 31 and 11 last night and he has pulled down as many as 13 this year he just doesnt really have the desire to do so. Why? Now that is the million dollar question.

jimm120
02-26-2011, 03:17 PM
A lot of people give him flak, but its mostly because he's bad at boxing out.

Still, he gets what I expect out of a PF: 8 - 9 rebounds.

To me, it goes like this:

C - 9.5 rebounds
PF - 8.5 rebounds
SF - 6 rebounds
SG - 3.5 rebounds
PG - 2 rebounds

That is what I expect people in those positions to do.

Amare grabs 9 rebounds a game and he plays between Center and Power Forward. So, he's exactly where he should be.

Now Melo at 8 REB at teh SF is above average.

LeBron at 7.5 REB at the SF position is above average.

All of those PG's that get 4 or 5 rebounds a game are above average.

Crackadalic
02-26-2011, 03:49 PM
Avg. He just doesnt have the will to rebound as much. Last night game proves it. HE had 5 boards in the 4th quarter to get 11 overall. Where was this the 1st 3 quarters?

HoopsDrive
02-26-2011, 04:22 PM
Slightly below average. He can grab boards, he just doesn't look interested in that at times.

JayAllDay
02-26-2011, 04:33 PM
If Amare's terrible then Brook Lopez shouldn't even play in the front court.

jetsfan28
02-26-2011, 04:35 PM
Amare Stuodamire makes Brook Lopez look like a competent human being (not a good rebounder, but a competent human being). He is well, well below average.

Missing56&33
02-26-2011, 04:45 PM
Amar'e never was a great/good rebounder.....he's more of a scorer and shot blocker but I think he will get better as his career goes on. He is not that quick off his feet on the boards like he is on offense this is something he need to get better at.

blastmasta26
02-26-2011, 04:50 PM
People always confuse Amare's underachieving rebounding ability as awful rebounding. Don't get that confused. He is probably the most underachieving rebounder in the league but overall he is probably a slightly below average rebounder. He should be well above average, he just doesn't work hard enough for it. If he took pride in rebounding he would be way better overall.
This sums it up.

ajm56
02-26-2011, 04:58 PM
He's average at best. For his height and athletic ability however he should be averaging a lot more rebounds especially while playing under such a fast pace offense his entire career.

well said.:clap:

ajm56
02-26-2011, 05:02 PM
Forget picking up a point guard to complete "the big three". Billiups is solid. Reminds me of Derek Harper. Knicks need a mean Mother F'R to rebound and play defense in the offseason!

sunnydayin'zona
02-26-2011, 05:14 PM
I'm not just talking about this season with tge Knicks I'm taking about overall, one season with the Suns he averages nearly 10 RPG at 9.7

he was never a good rebounder on the suns. if he averaged 9.7 it was a fluke. also, he fails to grab boards at important times. see last year v. lakers in the wcf's. when he was on the suns it was so frustrating how he never put effort into rebounding. because of his "superstar" status and his athletic ability and build, he should be pulling in at least 10 a game all the time. that and his effort on defense were the most frustrating things about amare when he was in phoenix.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
02-26-2011, 05:35 PM
He is top 20 in rebounds

and there is how many post in the NBA?? Yeah he is def above average

come on yall stop the jokes

wrong

Knicks21
02-26-2011, 05:41 PM
Average.

Evolution23
02-26-2011, 05:43 PM
Hes not a good rebounder. We all know that. What are expecting to gain from this thread? Some new found knowledge about Amare's rebounding?