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NetsPaint
02-26-2011, 02:02 AM
Who are the best PGs in the league now who never was an All-Star and has been in the league a long time?

Guys such as:

Jason Williams
Andre Miller

John Walls Era
02-26-2011, 02:02 AM
bibby

Baller1
02-26-2011, 02:03 AM
Andre Miller.

jasonresno
02-26-2011, 02:21 AM
My love for Kirk Hinrich makes me offer him up. In 07 he shot .46/.41/.84 and averaged 16/7 along with being one of the best defensive PGs in the game, at the time.

Bullsfan22
02-26-2011, 02:27 AM
I'm thinking Bibby.

Bucsfan
02-26-2011, 02:28 AM
andre miller

pastrecedes
02-26-2011, 02:37 AM
Andre Miller

bulls_world23
02-26-2011, 02:37 AM
Eric gordon?

Trace
02-26-2011, 02:38 AM
eric gordon?

"pg"

bulls_world23
02-26-2011, 02:40 AM
Oops.

Tdotraptors
02-26-2011, 02:49 AM
i know im gunna get bashed but calderon. this guys assit/turnover ratio is crazy. if he had better players to pass to hed prolly be an allstar

alencp3
02-26-2011, 02:57 AM
It has to be John Wall :D

JiffyMix88
02-26-2011, 03:00 AM
i know im gunna get bashed but calderon. this guys assit/turnover ratio is crazy. if he had better players to pass to hed prolly be an allstar

No if he played defense he'd prolly be a allstar

NetsPaint
02-26-2011, 03:00 AM
I said "a long time", guys:laugh2:.

Lloyd Christmas
02-26-2011, 04:27 AM
Felton has been in the league for a while and is better then Miller and Williams

jbeezy
02-26-2011, 04:29 AM
Derek Fisher

heatbb
02-26-2011, 04:41 AM
Andre Miller and Derek Fisher.

GreekFreak
02-26-2011, 05:04 AM
Kirk Hinrich (only because he's from my hometown :))

What?
02-26-2011, 05:09 AM
Miller I remember a few years back had like 17/11 one year so has to be him

rhino17
02-26-2011, 05:15 AM
Mike Bibby for sure, I can't believe he never made an all-star team

iFYouSeekAmy
02-26-2011, 05:48 AM
Ramon Sessions, Raymond Felton, Stephen Curry.

Lakers + Giants
02-26-2011, 07:15 AM
Mike Bibby, easily. . .During his kings days he should have been an all star a couple of times. He use to torch my lakers and do his little dance with a grin on his face. . .

ChiTownPacerFan
02-26-2011, 07:46 AM
Jamaal Tinsley

Supa
02-26-2011, 08:25 AM
Rod Strickland, #9 on all time leader in assists, but never an all star.

Mark Jackson also came to mind, but he did made one all star.

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b@llhog24
02-26-2011, 06:20 PM
bibby and the season where miller lead the nba in assits

sunsfan88
02-26-2011, 06:24 PM
Mike Bibby.

ROFL @ people saying Fisher!

hyb152
02-26-2011, 06:38 PM
Mike Bibby

hyb152
02-26-2011, 06:39 PM
Derek Fisher :laugh: riiiight.....

MalZee24
02-26-2011, 06:42 PM
Has to be Mike Bibby. He would have been the finals MVP in 2002 if the kings won the championship.... (in my eyes and many others, they did win it.)

I'm not a kings fan either.

Bornknick73
02-26-2011, 06:42 PM
Rod Strickland, #9 on all time leader in assists, but never an all star.

Mark Jackson also came to mind, but he did made one all star.

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stole my answer...Rod Strickland. Another supreme PG who was traded by the geniuses and MSG and for some reason blackballed after.

MalZee24
02-26-2011, 06:47 PM
stole my answer...Rod Strickland. Another supreme PG who was traded by the geniuses and MSG and for some reason blackballed after.

Rod Strickland and Mark Jackson aren't in the league NOW. Thread title says current so I'll go with Andre Miller or Mike Bibby. Bibby over Miller though because Bibby was better.

hyb152
02-26-2011, 06:48 PM
Mike Bibby, easily. . .During his kings days he should have been an all star a couple of times. He use to torch my lakers and do his little dance with a grin on his face. . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0SXPZUeL08

Bibby really was one of the league's best clutch shooters.

7:35 there's the clutch shot and dance you're talking about right? That's good stuff. Bibby was a baller.

JayAllDay
02-26-2011, 06:52 PM
Rod Strickland, #9 on all time leader in assists, but never an all star.

Mark Jackson also came to mind, but he did made one all star.

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This.

Until I realized the OP said "....in the league now..."

Monta Ellis

Dead ***
No joke

The_Jamal
02-26-2011, 06:53 PM
Easily Bibby.

Lakerhead4ever
02-26-2011, 06:54 PM
ty lawson is better than all the guys being named

97NYer
02-26-2011, 06:56 PM
Jason Williams, Andre Miller, Mike Bibby

gbrl
02-26-2011, 06:58 PM
ty lawson is better than all the guys being named

guys in his second year and just recently became a starter

ramz.n
02-26-2011, 07:09 PM
steph curry

momoneyyyy
02-26-2011, 07:18 PM
maybe baron davis?? did he ever make a all star team?

J-Relo
02-26-2011, 07:52 PM
Mike Bibby.

metsfanssince05
02-26-2011, 07:57 PM
Raymond Felton

bmd1101
02-26-2011, 08:59 PM
Ramon Sessions, Raymond Felton, Stephen Curry.

Do people not bother reading the OP?

knicksfan42
02-26-2011, 09:07 PM
bibby

^ This.

bmd1101
02-26-2011, 09:28 PM
ty lawson is better than all the guys being named

His numbers don't support it.

Chacarron
02-26-2011, 09:32 PM
Mike Bibby.

NetsPaint
02-27-2011, 02:32 AM
maybe baron davis?? did he ever make a all star team?
Twice I found out recently. Thought he made more.

AIRMAR72
02-27-2011, 02:14 PM
Rod Strickland, #9 on all time leader in assists, but never an all star.

Mark Jackson also came to mind, but he did made one all star.

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i agree about rod strickland a master at trick shots using da glass back in da days

LA_Raiders
02-27-2011, 03:27 PM
Miller, was great at some point...

Swashcuff
02-27-2011, 03:54 PM
I can't believe that so few have mentioned Andre Miller. Are people forgetting what he did in the second half of last season when Brandon Roy went out. He was one of the better defensive PGs (those days are behind him now) in the game while being a fantastic floor general. He is also still one of the best back to the basket players in the entire NBA despite the fact that he is a PG.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&p1=fishede01&y1=2011&p2=hinriki01&y2=2011&p3=feltora01&y3=2011&p4=willija02&y4=2011&p5=bibbymi01&y5=2011&p6=millean02&y6=2011

Andre Miller is the best among all those being considered.

#1 in career PER, #1 in career WS and WS/48, #1 in ORTG, #1 in AST%, #1 in TRB% #2 in TS% etc etc etc.

Not only is he the best pure point guard of the group in his better days he would have been considered as the best defensive player in the group. He was/is easily the WORST 3 point shooter of them all however.

Mike Bibby had a better peak than Miller IMO but as far as longevity goes Miller is the clear choice.