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DoJoTheSlasher
02-22-2011, 07:22 PM
http://www.nba.com/bulls/news/johnson_trade_110222.html?ls=iref:nbahpt2

$KnicksAndKobe$
02-22-2011, 07:25 PM
No big deal here. Maybe they use that pick and a player to upgrade the SG position.


BTW, it's the Heat's 2011 first rounder.

Htownballa1622
02-22-2011, 07:26 PM
Finally another trade!i wonder what chicago does with that pick.i bet they use it for a sg?

Nvm.just saw its the heat first rounder...sucks for them.

Melo15
02-22-2011, 07:26 PM
I like it for the Raptors

dhopisthename
02-22-2011, 07:28 PM
I heard he was traded for miami's second rounder

LTBaByyy
02-22-2011, 07:28 PM
Raptors have too many guards and too many post

They finally have a SF besides Kleiza lol James Johnson will be a beast when he gets the minutes

RZZZA
02-22-2011, 07:29 PM
good luck JJ, I always liked you. I HOPE YOU BEAST MAN! I HOPE YOU BEAST! :cry:

h2r09
02-22-2011, 07:32 PM
wtf are the raptors doing? some teams just never cease to amaze me. the heats pick is a perfect spot to get a great future european prospect at the end of the first and they trade it for a guy like JJ who has never done a thing? what is colangelo doing up there? he has a team full of soft big guys and raw wing guys.

stlbest5in2013
02-22-2011, 07:32 PM
good news for the bulls

2 1sts this year if reports are true that they may wait till next year to get a sg.

they can package those 2 #1's and their charlotte pick and move up quite a bit for a SG if they see one there. ( i think its a risk to do that, but if they did, harrison barnes:drool::drool::drool::drool:)

29$JerZ
02-22-2011, 07:33 PM
Most likely its a move to open up a bit more CAP to make a run at Mayo or Parker

Create
02-22-2011, 07:33 PM
Wouldn't the Raps 1st round pick be a lottery pick?

Since high unlikely for them to make the playoffs.

Hellcrooner
02-22-2011, 07:35 PM
wtf are the raptors doing? some teams just never cease to amaze me. the heats pick is a perfect spot to get a great future european prospect at the end of the first and they trade it for a guy like JJ who has never done a thing? what is colangelo doing up there? he has a team full of soft big guys and raw wing guys.

Except lately european talents who plan to stay for some time in europe preffer to get picked in second round so they CAN negotiate their rookie contract ( see splitter)
So if they are hearing the words BOTTOM FIRST ROUND they drop out of the draft.

Flash3
02-22-2011, 07:36 PM
wtf are the raptors doing? some teams just never cease to amaze me. the heats pick is a perfect spot to get a great future european prospect at the end of the first and they trade it for a guy like JJ who has never done a thing? what is colangelo doing up there? he has a team full of soft big guys and raw wing guys.

SpearsNBAYahoo

Bulls trade forward James Johnson to Raptors for a second round draft pick, source said.

:shrug: some are saying 2nd round... i don't think jj is worth a 1st

ramz.n
02-22-2011, 07:37 PM
good trade, raptors are young, they just added a player with potential and will probably produce because of the playing time, and the fact that the raptors need a sf big time...the miami pick is going to be a project.

ramsizzle
02-22-2011, 07:37 PM
^ its a first 100%

h2r09
02-22-2011, 07:37 PM
Except lately european talents who plan to stay for some time in europe preffer to get picked in second round so they CAN negotiate their rookie contract ( see splitter)
So if they are hearing the words BOTTOM FIRST ROUND they drop out of the draft.

didnt know that but even then, why ar ethe raptors giving up a late first rounder for a guy like James Johnson? what has he done for that?

dnewguy
02-22-2011, 07:37 PM
It's 2nd round pick...get it right.

LTBaByyy
02-22-2011, 07:37 PM
If this is for a 2nd round pick, the Raptors got a steal!!!!!

James Johnson will be starting for them at the end of the season

Create
02-22-2011, 07:38 PM
Oh it's 2nd round pick.

Ok ok.

ramsizzle
02-22-2011, 07:38 PM
NO its a first round pick....

DoJoTheSlasher
02-22-2011, 07:39 PM
It's the trade deadline dumbass. If you don't care then don't respond. Once again, GTFO.

Gators123
02-22-2011, 07:39 PM
SpearsNBAYahoo Marc J. Spears
Correction: Johnson was traded to Raptors for 2011 1st round pick from Heat (Bosh).


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haggis
02-22-2011, 07:39 PM
1st Round pick from the Heat that TOR owns:

http://twitter.com/ESPNChiBulls/status/40185316409212928#

-Kobe24-TJ19-
02-22-2011, 07:40 PM
JR Smith to Bulls:shrug:

blastmasta26
02-22-2011, 07:40 PM
Wouldn't the Raps 1st round pick be a lottery pick?

Since high unlikely for them to make the playoffs.
It's not their pick.

DoJoTheSlasher
02-22-2011, 07:40 PM
http://basketball.******.com/wiretap/211281/Raptors_Acquire_James_Johnson

ManRam
02-22-2011, 07:43 PM
The Heat pick will be very low in the first round...I like it for Toronto. If it was THEIR first rounder, then hell no. But for Miami's, it's definitely a good move for them. I like Johnson a good amount. I think he'll be a solid player.

TO Rapz
02-22-2011, 07:45 PM
Its MIA s 1st for James. IDK what to think about this..

Gators123
02-22-2011, 07:45 PM
My favorite James Johnson highlight ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAyKv5UznxU

redwhitenblue
02-22-2011, 07:47 PM
For anyone saying it's a good trade for TOR, Johnson was the LAST man off the Bulls bench, and spent a while in the D league this year because he couldn't figure anything out on the court.

Physically gifted, mentally not so much and just very poor decision maker and not the greatest basketball player to make up for his mental mistakes.

John Walls Era
02-22-2011, 07:47 PM
2nd round... better not be the first. James Johnson has potential, but I haven't seen him do much.

ramsizzle
02-22-2011, 07:50 PM
^ what are you guys doing? its confirmed a first.

azamat
02-22-2011, 07:51 PM
^ what are you guys doing? its confirmed a first.

its obviously miami's pick which is basically a 2nd rounder

redwhitenblue
02-22-2011, 07:53 PM
its obviously miami's pick which is basically a 2nd rounder
Except it's higher.

Best of luck to JJ in Toronto, at least he'll get time there. But I love this trade for Chicago, opens up 1.7MM in cap and another pick to possibly move in another deal.

John Walls Era
02-22-2011, 07:58 PM
Yeah its a first. He must have some talent if he was picked 16th. Bulls clearly aren't looking to develop their young guys right now.

ramsizzle
02-22-2011, 08:00 PM
^ no he just has zero basketball iq....VERY talented. but just cant do it on the court.

FlakeyFool
02-22-2011, 08:01 PM
better then anything we'd draft with that pick

RZZZA
02-22-2011, 08:02 PM
he got sent to the D league for 8 games and scored like 10,000 points

stlbest5in2013
02-22-2011, 08:04 PM
he got sent to the D league for 8 games and scored like 10,000 points

asik could score 10,000 points in the d league over 8 games

hotpotato1092
02-22-2011, 08:07 PM
Very clever move by the Bulls. It's all about stockpiling assets. They could use those two first rounders to get Courtney Lee from Houston, or they could use them with one or two of their bigs as a package to try to steal OJ Mayo from Memphis. Mayo is very underrated, on the right team he'd be LETHAL. If they don't see anything they like now, they can just hang onto the picks until draft time. Either way, it's a savy move.

CB4AB7VC15
02-22-2011, 08:16 PM
I hope its for a 2nd round pick. Id take Asik for mia's first........

Crackadalic
02-22-2011, 08:16 PM
Don't know much a bout but best of luck. Didnt seem like he was getting enough time on the bulls so its a good opportunity for him to flourish as a player in toronto.

ramsizzle
02-22-2011, 08:18 PM
^ garpax with a great move. hopefully they do something else great with it.

Gators123
02-22-2011, 08:20 PM
better then anything we'd draft with that pick

You never know...

Albrecht Duerer
02-22-2011, 08:21 PM
Its MIA s 1st for James. IDK what to think about this..

He's from Wyoming and he's a blackbelt. What's not to like?

MJ-BULLS
02-22-2011, 08:22 PM
i think the bulls are going to end up getting parker from cle.

im hoping its mayo or Lee.

RZZZA
02-22-2011, 08:24 PM
why in the world would we want Parker over Lee?

whats the up side on that

Weezy
02-22-2011, 08:25 PM
The Bulls should go after JR with these picks they got. I'm sure Denver would be interested...

RZZZA
02-22-2011, 08:26 PM
J.R. reminds me of a berserker. Just power him up and let him loose. There's no containing or disciplining him, he's just wild.

chicago lulz
02-22-2011, 08:29 PM
The Chicago Bulls have sent James Johnson to the Toronto Raptors for a draft pick, the team announced Tuesday.

The pick is the Miami Heat's first-round selection this year, which is owned by the Raptors.

Link Here (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nba/news/story?id=6148430&d)

Just because it seems like people are confused about which pick and who's pick it actually is.

Glad to see JJ will be getting some playing time in Canada. Just wasn't going to happen on the Bulls.

ChiTownPacerFan
02-22-2011, 08:30 PM
Granger and Rush for 1sts, Deng, and Gibson? It works financially.

ramsizzle
02-22-2011, 08:31 PM
^ thibs has a man crush on deng...he isnt leaving for anyone not named lebron.

ManRam
02-22-2011, 08:33 PM
The Bulls just have need to throw a project out on the court. He needs playing time, and Toronto can afford to struggle through his growing pains...Chicago can't deal with any of that. I still think this kid can ball. He just turned 22, he's still young.

D Roses Bulls
02-22-2011, 08:43 PM
it's 2nd round pick...get it right.

wrong!!!

fadedmario
02-22-2011, 08:44 PM
At least its news. As much as I hate saying this - The Bulls are heading in the right direction.

ClayMatthews
02-22-2011, 08:46 PM
Wow, are the raptors dumb?

Problemchild
02-22-2011, 08:46 PM
good news for the bulls

2 1sts this year if reports are true that they may wait till next year to get a sg.

they can package those 2 #1's and their charlotte pick and move up quite a bit for a SG if they see one there. ( i think its a risk to do that, but if they did, harrison barnes:drool::drool::drool::drool:)

Was just having a discusion about that yooooo if chicago can get captain jack from charlotte i would definatly say theyre the best & deepest team in the east. Boston is old. Miami only has the big three. the bulls would be super dangerous !

D Roses Bulls
02-22-2011, 08:47 PM
why in the world would we want Parker over Lee?

whats the up side on that

I wouldnt want parker for nothing more then a 2nd round pick, but Courtney Lee could be a good addition. can shoot the 3 ball and plays good defense and could turn into a pretty good player.

plus you gotta like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_EGgNhDlhw

chicago lulz
02-22-2011, 08:47 PM
Was just having a discusion about that yooooo if chicago can get captain jack from charlotte i would definatly say theyre the best & deepest team in the east. Boston is old. Miami only has the big three. the bulls would be super dangerous !

No thanks to Captain Jack.

JB0B0
02-22-2011, 08:48 PM
Was just having a discusion about that yooooo if chicago can get captain jack from charlotte i would definatly say theyre the best & deepest team in the east. Boston is old. Miami only has the big three. the bulls would be super dangerous !

No way we take on Jackson's contract. Our options are Mayo, Lee, Smith, and it pains me to say it, Parker.

Bulls_fan90
02-22-2011, 08:52 PM
The Bulls just have need to throw a project out on the court. He needs playing time, and Toronto can afford to struggle through his growing pains...Chicago can't deal with any of that. I still think this kid can ball. He just turned 22, he's still young.

Actually he just turned 24. ;)

RZZZA
02-22-2011, 08:53 PM
I wouldnt want parker for nothing more then a 2nd round pick, but Courtney Lee could be a good addition. can shoot the 3 ball and plays good defense and could turn into a pretty good player.

plus you gotta like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_EGgNhDlhw

Parker would break both knees if he tried that

Kyben36
02-22-2011, 08:53 PM
word is that the bulls are making a push for OJ mayo.

ChI_ShIzzLe
02-22-2011, 08:57 PM
word is that the bulls are making a push for OJ mayo.

I know Gar is blowing up the Grizzlies GM's cellphone, he's been on Mayo for a while, Bulls scouts have definitely seen something in his game that would fit perfectly in their system.

John Walls Era
02-22-2011, 09:00 PM
Parker would break both knees if he tried that

I know this was like 2 years ago but still...

1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjuFmDGIezo)

2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R57jOCK7Q4I&feature=related)

dtmagnet
02-22-2011, 09:04 PM
I know the Raptors liked Johnson the year he was drafted, I think they were even considering choosing him so we'll see how this turns out.

JB0B0
02-22-2011, 09:06 PM
It seems that the Bulls FO and fans really want Mayo. Please strike a deal!

JasonJohnHorn
02-22-2011, 09:11 PM
Am I missing something here? I havent seen James Johnson play, but his numbers are more than a little underwhelming... why would TO give up a first round pick for a guy they could pick up in the second round?

*scratching head*

RZZZA
02-22-2011, 09:16 PM
Am I missing something here? I havent seen James Johnson play, but his numbers are more than a little underwhelming... why would TO give up a first round pick for a guy they could pick up in the second round?

*scratching head*

JJ is the best cheer leader a bench could ask for, and he's a black belt in karate, so if something goes down he can karate chop his enemies and spirit his team mates to safety.

AddiX
02-22-2011, 09:16 PM
I know Gar is blowing up the Grizzlies GM's cellphone, he's been on Mayo for a while, Bulls scouts have definitely seen something in his game that would fit perfectly in their system.

He can shoot the outsider, that's about it, but that's what the Bulls need.

You guys will be really dangerous with him, D. Rose will will be even better with a legit shooter like Mayo protecting him.

zambo4president
02-22-2011, 09:21 PM
JJ never really got a shot with us. I remember that game against Detroit we let him play and he came up huge defensively, he's gotten into much better shape and the guy's one of the best kickboxers in the world, so he's got athleticism for days. Now we'll see if he can put it together. Good luck in Toronto James.

Chi StateOfMind
02-22-2011, 09:22 PM
all i know is BLOWGANS better not be our starting SG after Feb. 24

Arch Stanton
02-22-2011, 09:23 PM
I wouldnt want parker for nothing more then a 2nd round pick, but Courtney Lee could be a good addition. can shoot the 3 ball and plays good defense and could turn into a pretty good player.

plus you gotta like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_EGgNhDlhw

I don't think the Cavs would give up Parker for a 2nd Round Pick. The Cav's have already expressed that they'd be willing to buy one.

chicago lulz
02-22-2011, 09:27 PM
all i know is BLOWGANS better not be our starting SG after Feb. 24

don't get your hopes up

gerber
02-22-2011, 09:39 PM
WOW, raptors never fail to disappoint. Could have held on to the pick and drafted a player.

RZZZA
02-22-2011, 09:48 PM
JJ never really got a shot with us. I remember that game against Detroit we let him play and he came up huge defensively, he's gotten into much better shape and the guy's one of the best kickboxers in the world, so he's got athleticism for days. Now we'll see if he can put it together. Good luck in Toronto James.

LOL, no he isn't.

pd1dish
02-22-2011, 09:50 PM
i guess im happy with the trade because i was never big on JJ and any 1st rounder is probably better than him but its toronto's pick that they acquired from miami, so wherever miami finishes is where we get that 1st round pick. when i first read the title i was pleasantly surprised hearing that we could have gotten a lottery pick for JJ, but i was soon disappointed by reading the first line in the article.

What?
02-22-2011, 09:58 PM
LOL, no he isn't.

He has won seven world karate titles and nine national ones

He is also 20-0 as a kickboxer and has a mma title under his belt

cubbybear2290
02-22-2011, 10:00 PM
good luck JJ, I always liked you. I HOPE YOU BEAST MAN! I HOPE YOU BEAST! :cry:

My thoughts exactly man, my thoughts exactly

RZZZA
02-22-2011, 10:01 PM
as soon as he beats semmi schilt or alistair overeem or someone like that, I'll call him one of the best kickboxers in the world

bulldog312
02-22-2011, 10:30 PM
Am I missing something here? I havent seen James Johnson play, but his numbers are more than a little underwhelming... why would TO give up a first round pick for a guy they could pick up in the second round?

*scratching head*

Because he probably has more potential than anyone that will be drafted so late. He just doesn't "get it." The only way guys like this figure it out is to be left out on the floor to play through their mistakes and get better. For obvious reasons that isn't going to happen in Chicago. I think it makes sense for both sides.

canzano55
02-22-2011, 11:10 PM
I don't know how I feel about this. The Miami pick isn't worth anything but neither is James Johnson. Chicago already hit a home run winning the lottery that got them Rose, I can't see them hitting the jackpot again on Miami's pick. (Or rather I hope they don't).

chicago lulz
02-22-2011, 11:15 PM
I don't know how I feel about this. The Miami pick isn't worth anything but neither is James Johnson. Chicago already hit a home run winning the lottery that got them Rose, I can't see them hitting the jackpot again on Miami's pick. (Or rather I hope they don't).
JJ could be a good role player, and could certainly be serviceable barring playing time. Bulls won't get lucky with that Miami pick bringing them a lottery pick. Pretty sure they're just going to trade it away anyways.

John Walls Era
02-22-2011, 11:20 PM
First round picks that late can be bought anyways... happens every year.

ChI_ShIzzLe
02-22-2011, 11:27 PM
He can shoot the outsider, that's about it, but that's what the Bulls need.

You guys will be really dangerous with him, D. Rose will will be even better with a legit shooter like Mayo protecting him.

He's not just a shooter, he's actually a scorer, which is why he was drafted so high.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjSe1Y-l3e0

PurpleJesus28
02-23-2011, 12:06 AM
good luck JJ, I always liked you. I HOPE YOU BEAST MAN! I HOPE YOU BEAST! :cry:

+1

always wanted to see him get more minutes and produce. kids got a lot of potential if he can stay consistent. good luck JJ! :clap::clap::clap:

bulldog312
02-23-2011, 12:36 AM
First round picks that late can be bought anyways... happens every year.

I see this written all the time, but I don't really understand it. I don't see it happen very often. Unless you are talking about taking on salaries for picks (such as the Bulls-Wizards deal last year), but I don't really consider that buying picks.

Car Ramrod
02-23-2011, 12:47 AM
I don't see why anyone would bash this move. What are the chances the pick actually turns into anything. Raptors get a player with a positive attitude that has potential. If it doesn't work out, so what. Its worth the chance. He may not get the NBA because he never gets to play. The game is way faster than anything he has played. You never know what you have if they don't get a chance to play.

John Walls Era
02-23-2011, 12:54 AM
I see this written all the time, but I don't really understand it. I don't see it happen very often. Unless you are talking about taking on salaries for picks (such as the Bulls-Wizards deal last year), but I don't really consider that buying picks.

Go to wikipedia and look at all the past drafts. In the draft day trade section theres always late round picks dealt for Cash consideration.

DaBear
02-23-2011, 01:08 AM
I don't see why anyone would bash this move. What are the chances the pick actually turns into anything. Raptors get a player with a positive attitude that has potential. If it doesn't work out, so what. Its worth the chance. He may not get the NBA because he never gets to play. The game is way faster than anything he has played. You never know what you have if they don't get a chance to play.

Chances are, we package that pick in a deal for a SG.

AddiX
02-23-2011, 01:19 AM
He's not just a shooter, he's actually a scorer, which is why he was drafted so high.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjSe1Y-l3e0

I've seen highlight videos of Brian Scalabrini looking like Larry Bird, give me a break with that ish.

For the most part hes an outside shooter.

There's a good reason Memphis benched the guy who was suppose to be there PG of the future. I'm not saying he sucks, but he is what he is.

Knicks21
02-23-2011, 01:21 AM
I like the move for chicago, gaining picks to possibly prepare for a trade involving a sg.

TrueFan420
02-23-2011, 02:29 AM
its miami's first

ChI_ShIzzLe
02-23-2011, 02:40 AM
I've seen highlight videos of Brian Scalabrini looking like Larry Bird, give me a break with that ish.

For the most part hes an outside shooter.

There's a good reason Memphis benched the guy who was suppose to be there PG of the future. I'm not saying he sucks, but he is what he is.

18.5 PPG his rookie year, 17.5 in year 2. Kyle Korver is what you'd call an outside shooter, and he's never averaged numbers close to that. When you play on a team with Rudy Gay and Zach Randolph, its hard for a guy like Mayo to get an opportunity to thrive, he needed to be on a team where he'd be a starter and get consistent minutes even through the struggles and be a focal point in the team's offense. Memphis was never that situation for him and still isn't.

Draco
02-23-2011, 02:44 AM
Very clever move by the Bulls. It's all about stockpiling assets. They could use those two first rounders to get Courtney Lee from Houston, or they could use them with one or two of their bigs as a package to try to steal OJ Mayo from Memphis. Mayo is very underrated, on the right team he'd be LETHAL. If they don't see anything they like now, they can just hang onto the picks until draft time. Either way, it's a savy move.

Either that or its about recycling assets before their shelf life expires.. Like turning Sefolosha into Gibson.

Draco
02-23-2011, 02:50 AM
For anyone saying it's a good trade for TOR, Johnson was the LAST man off the Bulls bench, and spent a while in the D league this year because he couldn't figure anything out on the court.

Physically gifted, mentally not so much and just very poor decision maker and not the greatest basketball player to make up for his mental mistakes.

This. He was given the same playing opportunity that Taj was given... he just didn't stick. It's a sink or swim industry, he's Tor's project now.

Chi StateOfMind
02-23-2011, 02:56 AM
i keep refreshin espn to see if the bulls made a deal for mayo

D1JM
02-23-2011, 02:57 AM
i keep refreshin espn to see if the bulls made a deal for mayo

nothing will happen until tomorrow night or thurdsay. u can go to sleep in peace

ChI_ShIzzLe
02-23-2011, 03:01 AM
nothing will happen until tomorrow night or thurdsay. u can go to sleep in peace

I hope I don't answer "OJ Mayo" in response to one of the questions during my interview tomorrow afternoon.

chicago lulz
02-23-2011, 03:08 AM
I hope I don't answer "OJ Mayo" in response to one of the questions during my interview tomorrow afternoon.

offer them a glass of orange juice...then see if they'd like some mayo to accompany that drink

BigBlueTopper
02-23-2011, 03:10 AM
I have actually seen Courtney Lee play in person numerous times when he was at WKU. I know his career stats don't show it, but he's a very good outside shooter, an underrated athlete (The guy can absolutely cram it), and he is a solid defender. The only concern is that he's a little undersized for an NBA SG. But I'd still rather have him than Anthony Parker every day of the week.