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shep33
02-20-2011, 04:46 AM
IMO, we're gonna be fine. Gonna start competing at a high level, Ron will pick up his game, Barnes will be back and we'll basically have the healthiest team that we have for the first time this year. Blake is gonna step up.

I really think we're gonna play very very good ball after the all-star break. Just gonna pick it up and go from there.

We got this...

I just want to see some opinions about people who think we'll win it all this year... post and give us a reason why we will win!!

:clap: Lets pick up the attitude guys, I'll be the first to say I was in a panic after this 3 game losing streak... but you know what? I remember everyone including Laker fans here in this forum saying how we weren't gonna make it out west after that 4-7 finish to last year's season. I remember game 7 last year when everyone thought we were gonna lose after being down 13 in the 3rd.

Lets go Laker Nation! More support! We got this!

knightstemplar
02-20-2011, 04:55 AM
LA got kobe and pau, and a good supporting cast and the best coach, and the experience, im confident they got this....3PEAT

shep33
02-20-2011, 05:07 AM
LA got kobe and pau, and a good supporting cast and the best coach, and the experience, im confident they got this....3PEAT

I agree knights!... I look at this team, and I see Kobe and Pau leading the way, LO playing some of the best ball of his life, Ron will eventually come out and shut guys down and hit some shots (mark me on that, I'm gonna say it to all Laker fan, Ron is gonna step up), Drew is gonna get his body in better shape, and we're gonna go from there.

Barnes is like trading for a player, except not giving anyone up... we got this.

championships
02-20-2011, 05:46 AM
Like I said in a previous post. This is an old team, like people like to point out, So why go balls out in the first half of the season. Only to burn out in the playoffs. Lakers will be ready to play and I bet they come out and have a better second half leading into the playoffs.

Mcdoh
02-20-2011, 06:40 AM
i bet were going to see a different lakers when playoff comes...

Iron24th
02-20-2011, 06:42 AM
I believe we'll win it all again,maybe it will be even tougher than last year,but I really think we can't lose a 7 games series.

jferrell25
02-20-2011, 10:49 AM
the lakers are just waiting for the playoffs. barens will b back, the game will slow down which is more the lakers pace and weven made it to three finals in a row all with a banged up bynum, weak bench and a inconsistant odom. so the way i see it, outside of the lakers pacing themselves this regular season (seeing that were the oldest team in the league, were ahead of schedule for the last 3yrs. the lakers will be fine. see yall in the finals..... again!

shep33
02-20-2011, 02:18 PM
Like I said in a previous post. This is an old team, like people like to point out, So why go balls out in the first half of the season. Only to burn out in the playoffs. Lakers will be ready to play and I bet they come out and have a better second half leading into the playoffs.

I agree, we are an older team that has been to 3 straight finals. We lost motivation during the season, I think we were sidetracked by off the court stuff, like commercials etc. I think Phil himself has been tired of the routine and all too. We've also been injured pretty much all season long.

Matt Barnes will play a key role, like I said he's like trading for a quality player but not giving up anyone

Avenged
02-20-2011, 02:18 PM
Lets get Barnes back! Blake steps up his play, Pau becomes as aggressive as he's been in the past couple of postseasons, and we're good to go.

We have the veterans, a go-to player, great 2nd option, fantastic 6th man, a defensive "specialist", experience, and HOF coach. :nod:

KillaInstinct24
02-20-2011, 07:55 PM
we had shaq, kobe, payton and karl malone and still didnt win. this game is about chemistry, effort, talent and experience. if those 4 arent clicking, it doesnt work.

Lakersfan2483
02-20-2011, 08:43 PM
we had shaq, kobe, payton and karl malone and still didnt win. This game is about chemistry, effort, talent and experience. If those 4 arent clicking, it doesnt work.

+1

Anilyzer
02-20-2011, 09:14 PM
Phil Jackson + Kobe.

The Lakers have just finished the epic fight of winning the Finals LAST YEAR. They know how tough the upcoming fight is; they are just catching their breath and getting ready to jump right back into that same fight with everything on the line and everything to lose, as the defending champions.

They know it will be tough, but they've made some moves and improvements to be ready, and they have Bynum back healthy. So they are ready. Anybody is welcome to say that they are beatable, but the Lakers are gonna be extremely tough for anybody to beat.

If San Antonio drops game 1 at home to the Lakers in a WCF... and who doesn't think the Lakers can walk into San Antonio and win a game, or even two

shep33
02-20-2011, 09:19 PM
we had shaq, kobe, payton and karl malone and still didnt win. this game is about chemistry, effort, talent and experience. if those 4 arent clicking, it doesnt work.

You mean an overweight Shaq, Kobe going through his trial, Payton on his last legs, and Malone in his final season... This team is better all-around then than that team.

We're gonna get it done, we've been distracted by players doing too much off the court I think, injuries, but we'll be fine in the 2nd half.

Barnes coming back, is like adding a starter to this team. Ron will play better, you guys can quote me on that.

shep33
02-20-2011, 09:20 PM
Phil Jackson + Kobe.

The Lakers have just finished the epic fight of winning the Finals LAST YEAR. They know how tough the upcoming fight is; they are just catching their breath and getting ready to jump right back into that same fight with everything on the line and everything to lose, as the defending champions.

They know it will be tough, but they've made some moves and improvements to be ready, and they have Bynum back healthy. So they are ready. Anybody is welcome to say that they are beatable, but the Lakers are gonna be extremely tough for anybody to beat.

If San Antonio drops game 1 at home to the Lakers in a WCF... and who doesn't think the Lakers can walk into San Antonio and win a game, or even two

I have every bit of confidence that the Lakers can go into San Antonio and win a game 7 if it came to it. Nobody remember Sacramento back in 2002?

lakers4sho
02-20-2011, 09:30 PM
You mean an overweight Shaq, Kobe going through his trial, Payton on his last legs, and Malone in his final season... This team is better all-around then than that team.

We're gonna get it done, we've been distracted by players doing too much off the court I think, injuries, but we'll be fine in the 2nd half.

Barnes coming back, is like adding a starter to this team. Ron will play better, you guys can quote me on that.

Plus we don't have a starter who decided to quit on the triangle [ Payton ], and someone hobbling with injuries [ Malone ].

shep33
02-20-2011, 09:35 PM
Plus we don't have a starter who decided to quit on the triangle [ Payton ], and someone hobbling with injuries [ Malone ].

I agree. Are we a distracted team? haha yeah probably, but they realize that the playoffs are coming up, and I think we kick it into gear.

lakersrock
02-20-2011, 11:27 PM
What word do you associate with the Lakers, Phil and Kobe?

Winning.

There's your answer. That's why I think we'll win. We have a ton of winners involved with a winning organization.

P.S. Kobe is lighting this game up. :D

Anilyzer
02-21-2011, 12:41 AM
Yeah... all these teams and critics can say "The Lakers aren't that good this year", but when they come to your town and win Game 1 of a series everything switches around.

When you get beat in Game 1 and your whole 70 win season flashes before your eyes and you start to wonder if you can even win a single game from this team when they are playing this good.

midwestlaker75
02-21-2011, 01:40 AM
I took some heat about being critical of the Lakers play in the first half,Although I didn't really say anything that anybody else hasn't at least thought in the back of their mind. But you are right now is not time for panic, In the end we are still the champs and will be that until somebody beats us. As long as we are healthy we should be in line for a run. I expect the intensity to pick up and more sense of urgency, Thus returning the team to championship form.

J4KOP99
02-21-2011, 01:54 AM
It all comes down to health.


Although I would really like to see them show a little something at some point in the regular season... you have to give this group of guys the benefit of the doubt.


In the playoffs, so much of it comes down to experience. We have that. Another huge factor is talent. We have a ton of that. Offensive and defensive style plays a major part. We have seen time and time again how Phil Jacksons style is perfect for the playoffs. Finally, quite possibly the biggest factor is hunger... this is the one thing that worries me. Ultimately, I think some of the guys (like Ron and Blake) will come around and get onto the same page.


For me, I think of each season as a completely new season. I understand most Lakers fans don't panic after some bad losses or unmotivated play. However, I like to worry a little. There is no way I could go through an entire season without worrying... I have been doing it for over 20 years now. When I first started watching the Lakers, my uncle would always tell me... don't worry about them until the 4th quarter, that's when they will start to play. He says the same thing about the regular season. Don't worry about them until the playoffs, they will be fine. Well, throughout all the years, he has been right about 80% of the time... it will never change the way I think, but it does give me in incredible amount of confidence in this team.

kobe24>lebron23
02-21-2011, 02:02 AM
I'll admit I said we were done after the cleaveland game but that was stupid on my part to say that it wa probably cuz I was in the heat of the moment!

Let's go lakers!!! I believe!

shep33
02-21-2011, 02:30 AM
I'll admit I said we were done after the cleaveland game but that was stupid on my part to say that it wa probably cuz I was in the heat of the moment!

Let's go lakers!!! I believe!

Yeah man, I wsa the same way, I wanted a trade... haha I cooled down about half an hour later, and I think we'll be fine.

shep33
02-21-2011, 02:31 AM
It all comes down to health.


Although I would really like to see them show a little something at some point in the regular season... you have to give this group of guys the benefit of the doubt.


In the playoffs, so much of it comes down to experience. We have that. Another huge factor is talent. We have a ton of that. Offensive and defensive style plays a major part. We have seen time and time again how Phil Jacksons style is perfect for the playoffs. Finally, quite possibly the biggest factor is hunger... this is the one thing that worries me. Ultimately, I think some of the guys (like Ron and Blake) will come around and get onto the same page.


For me, I think of each season as a completely new season. I understand most Lakers fans don't panic after some bad losses or unmotivated play. However, I like to worry a little. There is no way I could go through an entire season without worrying... I have been doing it for over 20 years now. When I first started watching the Lakers, my uncle would always tell me... don't worry about them until the 4th quarter, that's when they will start to play. He says the same thing about the regular season. Don't worry about them until the playoffs, they will be fine. Well, throughout all the years, he has been right about 80% of the time... it will never change the way I think, but it does give me in incredible amount of confidence in this team.

very well said. This team plays with our emotions, but come time to win, I think we'll be ready

lakers4sho
02-21-2011, 02:46 AM
We need to be back to the team almost unbeatable on our home floor like the last 3 years. If we can't even win at home, it's going to be tough for us to advance deep into the playoffs.

Then Colby can will this team to win on the road. Hopefully.

leftymo
02-21-2011, 04:16 PM
I have a bunch of points to make in this thread that I've made before...

27-32. Those are the prime years. Generally speaking in the NBA that's when players are at their best. 2008 Celtics. Look at the big 3. All within those years. Lakers thereafter, from Odom to Artest, Pau and Kobe... In 2004 the Pistons were in that range, the Lakers were not.

The Lakers are not old. They are in their prime. The Celtics are old. The Heat's core is just before their prime.

Why LA might not win? Actually probably won't win? HCA. Lakers are 39-3 in the last 22 years when they have HCA. They are 8-12 when they don't.

In the last 25 years, only the 95 Rockets won a title without HCA in the semi's, conference finals, and NBA Finals.

No LA Laker championship team has ever lost 4 in a row (this one has).

If they win the title, it will be the MOST DIFFICULT championship in franchise history.

Last 10 years, 8 winners had HCA, only 2 did not.

kenzo400
02-23-2011, 12:08 PM
It really all depends on how much the refs help them out this year.

RoyalG333
02-23-2011, 01:23 PM
It really all depends on how much the refs help them out this year.

unless we really play without determination, refs give benefit of the doubt to the veteran teams. Hence Boston's recent success as well as the Lakers.

Spurs also have the vets, so it will be a really fun series. HC probably Spurs, but you never know. Either way, I never under estimate PJ+Kobe+Fish. They know how to win.

kenzo400
02-23-2011, 01:56 PM
unless we really play without determination, refs give benefit of the doubt to the veteran teams. Hence Boston's recent success as well as the Lakers.

Spurs also have the vets, so it will be a really fun series. HC probably Spurs, but you never know. Either way, I never under estimate PJ+Kobe+Fish. They know how to win.

I completely agree, they do generally favor the veteran teams. But i think home court is huge, especially in the playoffs. If last years game 7 was played in Boston, i think it probably would have been a very different outcome.

I also don't imagine they would favor a team like the Spurs more, about 15th in nba team worth. Considered by many basketball fans a pretty boring team. They often have the most difficulty getting calls in the playoffs.

RoyalG333
02-23-2011, 02:13 PM
I completely agree, they do generally favor the veteran teams. But i think home court is huge, especially in the playoffs. If last years game 7 was played in Boston, i think it probably would have been a very different outcome.

I also don't imagine they would favor a team like the Spurs more, about 15th in nba team worth. Considered by many basketball fans a pretty boring team. They often have the most difficulty getting calls in the playoffs.

Yep
there's a reason why the Lakers pay the big bucks. Hopefully the CBA issues doesn't do too much to damage the ability for a team like the Lakers to outspend in the future. for now though, if I can put on my tin foil cap, Stern doesnt let the Lakers not be in the finals...just my conspiratorial opinion. :)

DoubleDragon
02-23-2011, 03:16 PM
Like I said in a previous post. This is an old team, like people like to point out, So why go balls out in the first half of the season. Only to burn out in the playoffs. Lakers will be ready to play and I bet they come out and have a better second half leading into the playoffs.

Exactly! I've never been the doubter personally speaking. Too many "the sky is falling" fans panicking before the break. We (easily) dismantled the Hawks without so much as a challenge. Mamba and crew are hitting 3rd gear right now, EXACTLY as in past seasons. There's always a reasoning behind PJ's pacing, and we are right on track to win games in the mid-50 Win area which is exactly what 3 out of 5 of PJ's championship Laker squads have done going into the play-offs.

What, me worry?
Not likely

RoyalG333
02-23-2011, 03:29 PM
I used to be a competitive swimmer so its the one way I can relate to what the Lakers are doing.

In swimming we train our assess off all season. We have competitions along the way, but a lot of times in the middle of the season, we race like crap. As the championship meet nears, we begin to do what is called tapering. It's basically resting, and honing in the skills, technique, and mind to a peak performance. By the time we get to the championship meet, we're full of energy, and excitement and focus and usually swim MUCH faster than we had all season long, usually the fastest swims of our lives.

I say this is similar to what the Lakers and PJ are up to.

numba1CHANGsta
02-23-2011, 03:56 PM
I dont think we matchup well against the Heat so im hoping if we make the finals we dont face them unless Artest steps up his defense. I really hope we can finish with the second seed though, wouldnt want to play on the road for 2, possibly 3 series's

shep33
02-23-2011, 04:08 PM
I dont think we matchup well against the Heat so im hoping if we make the finals we dont face them unless Artest steps up his defense. I really hope we can finish with the second seed though, wouldnt want to play on the road for 2, possibly 3 series's

I agree, if we play the Heat we just have to make it a half court game and we'll be fine. One switch I'd make would be letting Kobe guard Lebron and Ron guard Wade at times, just to switch things up. LBJ is too big though for Kobe to guard the entire game IMO, so just rotating and giving them different looks with Kobe, Ron, and Barnes would be fine.

We'll punish them down low too.

RoyalG333
02-23-2011, 04:13 PM
I agree, if we play the Heat we just have to make it a half court game and we'll be fine. One switch I'd make would be letting Kobe guard Lebron and Ron guard Wade at times, just to switch things up. LBJ is too big though for Kobe to guard the entire game IMO, so just rotating and giving them different looks with Kobe, Ron, and Barnes would be fine.

We'll punish them down low too.

Lakers half court > Miami half court

execution is key. if we execute on offense, it doesnt allow Miami to go on the break and get easy buckets. That's where Miami is scary.

Vinylman
02-23-2011, 04:47 PM
There are only 2 things the Lakers have to worry about if they play Miami in the finals

1. David Stern
2. The referee's

J4KOP99
02-23-2011, 05:04 PM
I agree, if we play the Heat we just have to make it a half court game and we'll be fine. One switch I'd make would be letting Kobe guard Lebron and Ron guard Wade at times, just to switch things up. LBJ is too big though for Kobe to guard the entire game IMO, so just rotating and giving them different looks with Kobe, Ron, and Barnes would be fine.

We'll punish them down low too.

The only problem with that is Kobe makes it his job to stop LeBron by himself. He forgets that he is slower now, compared to 5 years ago and LeBron and other just blow past him almost every time.

When he guards LeBron and wade he should just try to keep them in front, rather than pressuring them to the point where they can easily get by him.

Emperor Kobe
02-23-2011, 09:26 PM
We heard this "Lakers are dead" for the past 3 years by ESPN and other haters. Kobe, Fish and Phil are not going to let this slump stand in the way of a title if they anything to say about it.

evadatam5150
02-24-2011, 02:10 AM
IMO, we're gonna be fine. Gonna start competing at a high level, Ron will pick up his game, Barnes will be back and we'll basically have the healthiest team that we have for the first time this year. Blake is gonna step up.

I really think we're gonna play very very good ball after the all-star break. Just gonna pick it up and go from there.

We got this...

I just want to see some opinions about people who think we'll win it all this year... post and give us a reason why we will win!!

:clap: Lets pick up the attitude guys, I'll be the first to say I was in a panic after this 3 game losing streak... but you know what? I remember everyone including Laker fans here in this forum saying how we weren't gonna make it out west after that 4-7 finish to last year's season. I remember game 7 last year when everyone thought we were gonna lose after being down 13 in the 3rd.

Lets go Laker Nation! More support! We got this!

The difference being that last years Laker team was physically a better team and committed to playing defense.. This years team doesn't seem to have the same energy or willingness to buy into any type of defensive scheme at any cost..

We're talking about 2 completely different teams here unfortunately..

evadatam5150
02-24-2011, 02:15 AM
Lakers half court > Miami half court

execution is key. if we execute on offense, it doesnt allow Miami to go on the break and get easy buckets. That's where Miami is scary.

A trouncing by Miami on X-Mas day would say otherwise.. Miami was better than the Lakers in Every facet of that game and it's hard to deny since Miami pretty much put a hurting on our team.. It is what it is..

kenzo400
02-24-2011, 01:39 PM
There are only 2 things the Lakers have to worry about if they play Miami in the finals

1. David Stern
2. The referee's

Or better put 1) David Sterns referee's lol