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beasted86
02-09-2011, 01:13 PM
Sure he can still be called a bust for his draft position, but you can no longer call him a scrub. Jordan got a bargain for the veteran minimum:

22.5 MIN
7.2 PPG
6.8 REB
51% FG

Those are respectable numbers for any rotation Center in the NBA.

DerekRE_3
02-09-2011, 01:18 PM
He's been surprisingly solid.

Atticus Finch
02-09-2011, 01:23 PM
I always liked Kwame on the Lakers, dude can't catch a basketball to save his life though. As a backup center he's a great fit, plays good post defense and isn't afraid to be physical. Glad to see he's putting together a solid season

-Kobe24-TJ19-
02-09-2011, 01:24 PM
He put up same numbers in the Lakers and we know who he was back then.

bovice163
02-09-2011, 01:25 PM
Little hands Kwame has finally made use of his skills, all thanks to Paul Silas and the rest of the Bobcats coaching staff.

Carey
02-09-2011, 01:28 PM
He put up same numbers in the Lakers and we know who he was back then.

Exactly...he's physical, rebounds and defends the paint well, he'll never live up to being the #1 pick but he's a more then serviceable player and has been before this season.

blahblahyoutoo
02-09-2011, 01:36 PM
so he's like a darko this season.

rhymeratic
02-09-2011, 01:36 PM
Not a scrub, not good, just a solid rotation player.

Hellcrooner
02-09-2011, 01:38 PM
hes never been a scrub.
if he had been picked 18 or something eh woudl be starting somwhere adn getting 12 ppg and 10 rpg.

his only problem was being picked before gasol, chandler, parker, jefferson, battier....

beasted86
02-09-2011, 01:42 PM
As a starter (21 out of 37 games total):

27.0 MIN
8.9 PPG
8.5 REB
53% FG


Not bad at all....

Raph12
02-09-2011, 01:53 PM
At least he's servicable...

DieHardColtsfan
02-09-2011, 01:58 PM
At the vet minimum, you cannot call him a scrub at all.

mttwlsn16
02-09-2011, 02:05 PM
Kwame Brown is a scrub - I just did it :)

TheDiggler
02-09-2011, 02:06 PM
Nice Move for vet min. !

210Don
02-09-2011, 02:09 PM
ill still call him a scrub

Law25
02-09-2011, 02:10 PM
I'll take him back as an back up or rotational starter to keep Bynum interest in the game from feelin a littel presure. I can never forget when he put Diaw on his *** and stood over him like an prize fighter his defense was solid and i can only dream of how great it would be to let Kobe and Pau score while Fisher,Artest, and Brown make players crawl to the reffs with bruised bodies after being bodied and catching hard screen after hard screen,lol

Tdotraptors
02-09-2011, 02:19 PM
Hes still the biggest scrub to go 1st overall. who wants a backup center with the 1st overall pick?

xxcubs22xx
02-09-2011, 02:34 PM
Yeah, he's a scrub.

Nighthawk
02-09-2011, 02:45 PM
Not a scrub?? This dude went FIRST OVERALL. Its took this guy like how many years to get to the Bobcats and average 7 and 6??? Come on now. The fact theres a Kwame thread trying to convince people hes not a scrub...pretty much means he is one. Sure Kwame isnt the worst player in the NBA. But when you consider everything, Kwames a scrub.

PLAYERS FAN
02-09-2011, 02:46 PM
I give the credit to Charles Oakley.

ttam68
02-09-2011, 02:51 PM
He's always been able to put decent 8-8 type stats. He's big enough that in today's league he's an above average 20 mpg bench center

GrkGawdofWalkz
02-09-2011, 02:54 PM
As a number one pick, he's still a scrub. He's played admirably as a back up in his time in different time. As a mid first rounder, sure he's solid.

Raph12
02-09-2011, 02:54 PM
Not a scrub?? This dude went FIRST OVERALL. Its took this guy like how many years to get to the Bobcats and average 7 and 6??? Come on now. The fact theres a Kwame thread trying to convince people hes not a scrub...pretty much means he is one. Sure Kwame isnt the worst player in the NBA. But when you consider everything, Kwames a scrub.

That makes him a "bust", not a "scrub"... Hasheem Thabeet is both atm lol.

beasted86
02-09-2011, 02:55 PM
You guys know there is a difference between being a bust and being a scrub, right?

I even stated was still a bust in the 1st line of the thread.

tangent12
02-09-2011, 03:06 PM
I'll call him whatever the **** I want..

Lakeshow86
02-09-2011, 03:08 PM
I never said Kwame was a bad player. I thought he was very solid for the Lakers. I thought Lakers should have signed him over Ratliff. Or maybe they tried by Kwame turned us down? People were just upset that he didnt live up the the hipe of a #1 draft pick and his 10 Million salary and thats true. You cant blame him for that. But He's a very solid defender and rebounder and is capable of giving you a few points every now and then. I wouldnt mind the Lakers trading for him should this Bynum and Melo Swap take place. They could use him should they face the Celtics or Howard in the finals. Heck. I think the Lakers can use him now even with Bynum. Hes a very solid back center or a starter on a very good team like the Lakers should they get Melo

Fisher/Blake
Kobe/Brown
Melo Artest
Pau/Odom
Kwame/Pau

I could very well see that happening. Of course Kwame would only play limited minutes but I could see him starting for us

Swashcuff
02-09-2011, 03:10 PM
You guys know there is a difference between being a bust and being a scrub, right?

I even stated was still a bust in the 1st line of the thread.

A lot of them obviously don't. And they obviously didn't read the OP.

BSplaya2121
02-09-2011, 03:11 PM
The scrub meter has been gradually declining on him the past few years

YoungOne
02-09-2011, 03:25 PM
Little hands Kwame has finally made use of his skills, all thanks to Paul Silas and the rest of the Bobcats coaching staff.

he has no skills, but he works hard and gets rebounds and easy baskets and plays good defense

John Walls Era
02-09-2011, 03:34 PM
Surprisingly not bad. I looked at his advance numbers and they were quite solid for a 8th-12th man.

Swashcuff
02-09-2011, 03:36 PM
He'd be starting on my Sixers in all likeliness. In all honesty I won't mind that. 9 and 9 with solild D aint to shabby.

shizzle09
02-09-2011, 03:37 PM
Not a scrub?? This dude went FIRST OVERALL. Its took this guy like how many years to get to the Bobcats and average 7 and 6??? Come on now. The fact theres a Kwame thread trying to convince people hes not a scrub...pretty much means he is one. Sure Kwame isnt the worst player in the NBA. But when you consider everything, Kwames a scrub.

That would be a BUST. Just because you were picked #1 doesnt make you a scrub if you dont play like a #1 pick should. Just means the team that drafted him is ********. He is a servicable center in the league.

Avenged
02-09-2011, 03:40 PM
In the words of Stephen A. Smith: Bonafide Scrub!

Swashcuff
02-09-2011, 03:42 PM
That would be a BUST. Just because you were picked #1 doesnt make you a scrub if you dont play like a #1 pick should. Just means the team that drafted him is ********. He is a servicable center in the league.

The only thing ******** about the Wizards drafting him at #1 was the fact that Pau Gasol a more mature and expereinced NBA ready player who would have been a better fit along side MJ was on the board.

Other than that Washington made the right move. Kwame was expected to be Dwight Howard version 1.0 but unfortunately for the Wiz that never happened.

dwadefan03
02-09-2011, 04:00 PM
i wish the heat had gone after him, i always knew he wasnt as bad as people made him out to be

Bruno
02-09-2011, 04:06 PM
Kwame is a pretty ideal reserve big man right now. He plays D and rebounds. When you consider that he's averaging 7/7 in 23 minutes per game, and getting paid 1.2 million its a good deal and a good fit.

When he was in LA he was posting similar averages, more minutes and he cost 7-8 times as much as he does now. Kwame got paid 8.2 million in 2006-2007 w/ LA, 9 mil the year he got dealt for Gasol.

magichatnumber9
02-09-2011, 04:11 PM
You people amaze me. If he was on a contender you would call him a piece of ****. But he's on the cute harmless Bobmeows so lets throw him a bone. Kwame will always suck

Nighthawk
02-09-2011, 04:15 PM
That would be a BUST. Just because you were picked #1 doesnt make you a scrub if you dont play like a #1 pick should. Just means the team that drafted him is ********. He is a servicable center in the league.

lol


Good god. To me Kwame Brown is a scrub. TOTAL SCRUB.

Sorry to hurt feelings.

BrooklynVikings
02-09-2011, 04:21 PM
for a number one overall pick in a draft...he is a SCRUB! he was drafted later in the first round and put up these numbers then No he is not considered a scrub....but again for a #1 pick Kwame is an official Scrub!

Lakeshow86
02-09-2011, 04:32 PM
i wish the heat had gone after him, i always knew he wasnt as bad as people made him out to be

I knew that too. He just didnt live up to his draft status. That isnt his fault but that also doesnt mean he sucks. He plays good solid D and is a solid rebounder and can score on occasion if hes close to the basket. Thats why when the Lakers were looking for a backup bigman I thought Kwame first over Raliff. The lakers I think could really use him should they do the Swap of Melo for Bynum.

Arch Stanton
02-09-2011, 04:34 PM
In the words of Stephen A. Smith: Bonafide Scrub!

Stephen A. Smith's head is going to explode from his rants!

JNA17
02-09-2011, 04:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PP4RT-vv-o

Swashcuff
02-09-2011, 04:45 PM
You people amaze me. If he was on a contender you would call him a piece of ****. But he's on the cute harmless Bobmeows so lets throw him a bone. Kwame will always suck

:confused:

IF he was on a contender he'd be getting the kind of praises that Tyson Chandler and Emeka Okafor is getting for their respective teams. He is solid defensively not spectacular but he's certainly a very valuable player at 1.2 million per.

Swashcuff
02-09-2011, 04:45 PM
lol


Good god. To me Kwame Brown is a scrub. TOTAL SCRUB.

Sorry to hurt feelings.

That is because you OBVIOUSLY know nothing about basketball.

king4day
02-09-2011, 04:50 PM
Sounds like a lot of people are confusing 'bust' with 'scrub'.
He's a bust, yes. He's not a scrub this year. I'd be surprised if teams in contention (miami, LA, Chicago maybe) are calling about him right now.

johnnychan
02-09-2011, 04:51 PM
Now people can stop saying we raped the Grizz.

BucktownUSA
02-09-2011, 04:54 PM
lol He wants kwame brown on the Heat.. is basically why this guy started this thread.

ChiDougie19
02-09-2011, 04:55 PM
a #1 draft pick who is an ok backup...sounds lik a scrub to me

GeekInThePink
02-09-2011, 04:55 PM
Solid starter, he is a bust for where he was drafted, but he can be a solid 10-10 guy in the league.

KingPosey
02-09-2011, 04:59 PM
i remember a few years ago, he went off for a 30-20 game against my Kings, i wanted to barf. He isnt a complete scrub now, he is just more like "the Lord of the Scrubs", the best scrub there is. Kinda a "dubious" honor though.
He also played pretty good for LA in the playoffs a few years ago.

Swashcuff
02-09-2011, 05:00 PM
To clarify the difference between a scrub and a bust to those who clearly have no idea what they are talking about I'd give you some examples.

Earl Barron, Jason/Jarron Collins and Melvin Ely are scrubs.

Kwame Brown, Darko Milicic and Shelden Williams are busts.

Michael Sweetney, Rafael Araujo and Nikoloz Tskitishvili are both.

Understand the difference now?

Swashcuff
02-09-2011, 05:01 PM
a #1 draft pick who is an ok backup...sounds lik a scrub to me

You clearly have no clue what you are talking about.

Where he was drafted has nothing to do with him being a scrub or not. Don't you seem to understand the difference. He is a BUST. One of if not THE biggest bust ever.

johnnychan
02-09-2011, 05:05 PM
He isnt a complete scrub now, he is just more like "the Lord of the Scrubs", the best scrub there is. Kinda a "dubious" honor though.
He also played pretty good for LA in the playoffs a few years ago.

Hahahahah:laugh:

Swashcuff
02-09-2011, 05:12 PM
If Kwame Brown is a scrub what are the other 30 NBA centers who average less point and rebounds than him in the same amount of minutes?

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&type=totals&per_minute_base=36&lg_id=NBA&is_playoffs=N&year_min=2011&year_max=2011&franch_id=&season_start=1&season_end=-1&age_min=0&age_max=99&height_min=0&height_max=99&birth_country_is=Y&birth_country=&is_active=&is_hof=&pos=C&qual=&c1stat=pts_per_g&c1comp=lt&c1val=8&c2stat=trb_per_g&c2comp=lt&c2val=8&c3stat=mp_per_g&c3comp=lt&c3val=25&c4stat=g&c4comp=gt&c4val=20&c5stat=&c5comp=gt&c6mult=1.0&c6stat=&order_by=per

this league is FULL of scrubs I guess.

Smash
02-09-2011, 05:17 PM
He's still bad.

Avenged
02-09-2011, 05:17 PM
He's not a scrub, people.

He's a bonafide scrub! :D

Swashcuff
02-09-2011, 05:27 PM
He's not a scrub, people.

He's a bonafide scrub! :D

What was Mbenga then? :D

Lakerhead4ever
02-09-2011, 05:36 PM
Sure he can still be called a bust for his draft position, but you can no longer call him a scrub. Jordan got a bargain for the veteran minimum:

22.5 MIN
7.2 PPG
6.8 REB
51% FG

Those are respectable numbers for any rotation Center in the NBA.

Respectable? this guy went number one in his draft class. it took him this long to average 7 points and 7 rebounds? lol cmon man. hes a big joke

bigsams50
02-09-2011, 05:43 PM
You people amaze me. If he was on a contender you would call him a piece of ****. But he's on the cute harmless Bobmeows so lets throw him a bone. Kwame will always suck

Whats the point in bashing the Bobcats? This threads about Kwame.


BTW, hows that loss tasting?

mrblisterdundee
02-09-2011, 05:45 PM
Kwame Brown's a scrub. Eat it and like it.

thekmp211
02-09-2011, 05:55 PM
To clarify the difference between a scrub and a bust to those who clearly have no idea what they are talking about I'd give you some examples.

Earl Barron, Jason/Jarron Collins and Melvin Ely are scrubs.

Kwame Brown, Darko Milicic and Shelden Williams are busts.

Michael Sweetney, Rafael Araujo and Nikoloz Tskitishvili are both.

Understand the difference now?

i like this one.

netsgiantsyanks
02-09-2011, 06:12 PM
he should of did something somewhat productive for teams like this 10 years ago

TO to the CHI
02-09-2011, 06:12 PM
Sure he can still be called a bust for his draft position, but you can no longer call him a scrub. Jordan got a bargain for the veteran minimum:

22.5 MIN
7.2 PPG
6.8 REB
51% FG

Those are respectable numbers for any rotation Center in the NBA.

What was the point of this thread? Kwame has put up similar numbers before (better numbers at times as well). He is still a bust, but I agree not a scrub. Certainly a decent bench player. But you aren't pointing out anything new at all.

The BodyGuard
02-09-2011, 06:24 PM
He's not bad, But he's Not great..But he fits good with the bobcats

johnnychan
02-09-2011, 06:31 PM
He aint on the level of Smush Parker scrubdom thats for sure.

gaspar
02-09-2011, 06:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxEGhVVzUgM

sp1derm00
02-09-2011, 06:59 PM
The Lakers should have tried to sign him in the offseason instead of Theo Ratliff.

h2r09
02-09-2011, 07:00 PM
no, watch any game he plays, dude is a scrub and a bust. the guy plays no defense and any player playing that amount of time will get numbers like that. i would only change my mind if he did something like 10 and above and 8-9 boards along with a block.

dude is awful and when you watch him play it hurts.

Il Mago 7
02-09-2011, 07:16 PM
tell that to stephen smith LMFAO

JasonJohnHorn
02-09-2011, 07:21 PM
Sure he can still be called a bust for his draft position, but you can no longer call him a scrub. Jordan got a bargain for the veteran minimum:

22.5 MIN
7.2 PPG
6.8 REB
51% FG

Those are respectable numbers for any rotation Center in the NBA.

Umm... for any center that went undrafted! The dude was picked first overall!

He was first pick! "Scrub" was never the word people used, it was "bust" and he still is. Getting kinda decent numbers on an east conference team that is under .500 doesnt redeem him in my eyes. I mean, he is still a great talent, as is anybody good enough to play in the league, but he's still a bust.

Hustlenomics
02-09-2011, 07:39 PM
he's a Scrub with a capital S !

KingPosey
02-09-2011, 08:41 PM
To clarify the difference between a scrub and a bust to those who clearly have no idea what they are talking about I'd give you some examples.

Earl Barron, Jason/Jarron Collins and Melvin Ely are scrubs.

Kwame Brown, Darko Milicic and Shelden Williams are busts.

Michael Sweetney, Rafael Araujo and Nikoloz Tskitishvili are both.

Understand the difference now?

SW is bust and a scrub.

Swashcuff
02-09-2011, 09:52 PM
SW is bust and a scrub.

I'd take SW over all those guys who I listed as scrubs. At least he brings something that none of them brought during their time in the league. Defense. That is the reason why he is still in the league. As for the Collins brothers :confused: I see no reason whatsoever as to why they are still in the league. Guess size really does matter.

_KB24_
02-10-2011, 03:15 AM
The expectations put on him were not fair. He's always been a good locker room guy and Kobe himself said he was a hard worker and put forth his best in practice. I just felt bad because he wasn't mentally strong enough, and you will get eaten up in a market like LA. Feel happy for him, he was a good center throughout his time in LA and his career, but was never a Number 1 worthy pick.

Im_Really_CHI
02-10-2011, 03:19 AM
who cares

Frrrrank!!!
02-10-2011, 03:25 AM
People are always going to put the #1 pick burden on him, so relative to #1 picks he's a scrub.

lakerboy
02-10-2011, 03:50 AM
Kwame sucks balls. I dont know why the Lakers didn't just get Mbengga over Kwame those years. I would take Mbengga over him everyday. Kwame can't catch a ball. CANNOT CATCH A BALL. Have you heard of a basketball player who cannot catch a ball?

jzero
02-10-2011, 08:16 AM
Kwame sucks balls. I dont know why the Lakers didn't just get Mbengga over Kwame those years. I would take Mbengga over him everyday. Kwame can't catch a ball. CANNOT CATCH A BALL. Have you heard of a basketball player who cannot catch a ball?

its like a blind optometrist
A BLIND OPTOMETRIST

mike_noodles
02-10-2011, 09:01 AM
Sure I can, watch...

Kwame Brown is still a scrub, not even a top 8 rotations guy on 25 teams around the league.

dodie53
02-10-2011, 09:15 AM
good move MJ
hehe

Antipod
02-10-2011, 09:23 AM
Decent numbers, but certainly not for #1 pick

Still a scrub !

goose15
02-10-2011, 09:33 AM
wow Im a big NBA fan and I had no clue he was on Charlotte..