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D Roses Bulls
02-04-2011, 08:53 PM
I know this can be a knicks forum thing, but isn't doaln crazy if he brings back Isiah?


With Isiah Thomas still looming in the background, Knicks president Donnie Walsh said yesterday he has no clue where he stands with James Dolan. Walsh added he can live with it if the Knicks owner decides against exercising the option on the final year of his contract.

According to an NBA source, the reason Dolan has not acted on Walsh's contract is he still has the former disgraced president Thomas on his radar, still speaks to him regularly and still is considering bringing him back in the future.

As Dolan drags his heels, Walsh admitted he has received no feedback on the job he is doing from the big boss. It is startling considering the money Walsh has saved Dolan while putting the club in prime position to make the playoffs with cap room the next two summers.

Walsh's remarks came in light of an Internet report suggesting Dolan is undecided on keeping Walsh. The NBA source told The Post what's preventing Dolan from committing to Walsh is not health, but Thomas' unyielding desire to return. The NBA source said Dolan talks to Thomas more than once a week regarding Knicks issues and does not care about the fan outrage that will occur if he eventually brings him back in some capacity.

Walsh continued to praise Dolan yesterday, but The Post reported in August he was furious when Dolan hired Thomas as part-time consultant without telling him first. The Post reported Walsh had told Dolan earlier he didn't think he could work with Thomas on a day-to-day basis. Thomas' consultations with Dolan could be hurting Walsh's cause.

When asked by The Post if Dolan is happy with the club's direction, Walsh said: "I don't know. I haven't sat down and talked to him in a while. So I really don't know. That's up to him. He doesn't have to share that with me."

A spokesman for Dolan declined to comment.

Walsh also said he's "embarrassed" by the attention of his uncertain future. Walsh's option for next season must be picked up by April 30, as reported three weeks ago by The Post.

Walsh said he is uncertain if the criterion on whether he stays is making the playoffs. With a recent slippage, the Knicks, at 25-23, still remain in sixth place but their lead over the Sixers is down to three games entering a home-and-home with Philly starting tonight. Suddenly, they are just five games from falling out of a playoff berth.

"I haven't heard the issues from Mr. Dolan," Walsh said. "I think he wants the franchise to be going in the right direction. I hope it is. If it isn't, then I understand."

Walsh, rehabbing from hip replacement surgery, has not traveled to scout college games all season or to be with the club. He still uses a walker.

Walsh is expected to add former Nuggets GM Mark Warkentien to the front office, with an announcement likely coming today, to help the college scouting but mostly to aid in Carmelo Anthony's recruitment.

Some top-level Knicks officials believe Warkentien's ties to CAA, which also represents Anthony, is important. It's not necessarily a view shared by Walsh.

Walsh said he won't be devastated if this is it for him as Knicks president.

"I'd like [to]," Walsh said about returning next season. "At 70, I'd probably like it less or [it's] not as important as when I was 40. In other words, there's a life after this.

"One thing I do know about Jim Dolan, he is honest," Walsh added. "So I don't believe any of this stuff."

Walsh seemed on edge yesterday.

"I'm embarrassed by all this," Walsh added of the attention regarding his contract. "When people start bringing it up, it's the last thing I want. If I leave tomorrow, I want to leave with dignity and I don't want to blame anybody. Everyone's treated me well. I have no complaints."

In what sounded almost like a farewell speech, Walsh said yesterday: "I don't want to get into, it's this guy's fault, that guy's fault. I'm a responsible person. I'm an adult. I've enjoyed every moment I've been here. The fans have been great. The owner's always been forthright with me and talked to me and I haven't had any problems with him as a person. I like him. So I don't get all this."

With Walsh reducing the payroll to roughly $58 million, around the salary cap, Dolan no longer is paying through the nose to lose. In fact, Dolan will pay $60 million less on this club than the one Walsh inherited. That club had a $93 million payroll and Dolan forked over another $24 million in luxury tax. And the team went 33-49.

"I think as far as position, it's exactly where I wanted it," Walsh said. "If we had LeBron [James] and Amar'e, we might be in better position. But I thought we'd get a team and start rebuilding it in the third year. We've done that and I see a future in this team. I don't build a championship team in three years but we started the process. I wanted it to be financially good cap-wise in position to get better and it is."

Knicks coach Mike D'Antoni, whose future depends on Walsh coming back, said: "That's something he'll take care of and management will take care and it will work itself out."

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/uncertain_future_oOeNKWHLsogAJJ49XDyG9M#ixzz1D2ciC lzp

JasonJohnHorn
02-04-2011, 08:57 PM
Walsh got these guys in the playoffs in two seasons! Isaiah had WAY more pieces to start with and all he did was take on huge contracts and then force NY to pay players not to play! WTF Why would they want this guy the cancer that is Isaiah back in the organization? Does he want to get the leagues highest payroll, and finish in the lottery with no pick to show for it because it got traded away?

Seriously! This has got to be a joke!

D Roses Bulls
02-04-2011, 09:00 PM
Walsh got these guys in the playoffs in two seasons! Isaiah had WAY more pieces to start with and all he did was take on huge contracts and then force NY to pay players not to play! WTF Why would they want this guy the cancer that is Isaiah back in the organization? Does he want to get the leagues highest payroll, and finish in the lottery with no pick to show for it because it got traded away?

Seriously! This has got to be a joke!

sadly a lot of sites are reporting the same thing, they think doaln wants thomas back. I guess the knicks owner isnt comfortable unless they are the laughing stock of the NBA

TheDiggler
02-04-2011, 09:09 PM
I don't think Knicks fans are high on Isiah ... :laugh:

netsgiantsyanks
02-04-2011, 09:11 PM
if the knicks bring back isiah, i will laugh myself to sleep, wake up and laugh some more. then i'll proceed to bait to my fellow friends who are all knick fans

Slimsim
02-04-2011, 09:13 PM
Unless Isiah going to play Back up pG for us i don't want him know were near MSG

d00d
02-04-2011, 09:16 PM
he is the biggest embarrassment in the history of the Knicks.

what. the. ****.

D Roses Bulls
02-04-2011, 09:20 PM
hey im for the knicks bringing back isiah, then he'll run the team into the fround and the bulls will probably get all their lottery picks for the next 5 years with thomas trading us them for our garbage, lol

justinnum1
02-04-2011, 09:23 PM
schmuck

faze38
02-04-2011, 09:25 PM
If Dolan brings Isiah back i will boycott al Knick games and i've been a fan my whole life!

Tony_Starks
02-04-2011, 09:30 PM
I would seriously fear for Isiah's safety where this to occur.

Giaps
02-04-2011, 10:28 PM
if the knicks bring back isiah, i will laugh myself to sleep, wake up and laugh some more. then i'll proceed to bait to my fellow friends who are all knick fans
lol you really think that's a good idea bro? You're a Nets fan. ;)

Weezy
02-04-2011, 10:40 PM
didnt they saying this last summer? Its not happening.

Da Knicks
02-04-2011, 10:40 PM
:laugh2:
lol you really think that's a good idea bro? You're a Nets fan. ;)

nuff said...:faint::laugh2:

netsgiantsyanks
02-04-2011, 10:49 PM
lol you really think that's a good idea bro? You're a Nets fan. ;)

its funny because in reality the knicks are only like 8-9 games ahead of the nets.

:burn:

knicksfan42
02-04-2011, 10:51 PM
its funny because in reality the knicks are only like 8-9 games ahead of the nets.

:burn:

Knicks 25-24

Nets 15-35

Hellcrooner
02-04-2011, 10:52 PM
The thing is.

Isiaiah took over the other time in a team that was ALREADY a mess, and he made moves that made it worse.

Maybe this team when the team is leaded in the right direction he may be able to work more comfortably and make it better.

championships
02-04-2011, 11:09 PM
That would just be mind blowing to me. The knicks are on their way to doing good things again. It's been a long time since that has happened. Why **** it all up again??

Giaps
02-04-2011, 11:26 PM
its funny because in reality the knicks are only like 8-9 games ahead of the nets.

:burn:
You really wanna have this conversation?

You guys are 27-108 in your last 135 games and you have no franchise player. Then there's Melo... or should I say, there he's not :)

heathonater
02-04-2011, 11:43 PM
dolan shouldnt bring isiah back, regardless of what happens to the roster by the end of the year. isiah failed miserably at ny and led to the knicks being a bad team for several years.

netsgiantsyanks
02-04-2011, 11:43 PM
You really wanna have this conversation?

You guys are 27-108 in your last 135 games and you have no franchise player. Then there's Melo... or should I say, there he's not :)

omg. it must of took you a REAL long time to figure that one out. congrats. :clap:

Giaps
02-04-2011, 11:50 PM
omg. it must of took you a REAL long time to figure that one out. congrats. :clap:
You won 12 games last season and 15 this season, not too challenging. Nice reply though, you really got me on that one.