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Hustlenomics
02-04-2011, 02:41 AM
Doc Rivers coaching against Popovich i believe

East
Rose
Wade
Lebron
Amare
Dwight

Rondo,Ray,Pierce,Horford,KG,Joe Johnson,Bosh

West
Chris Paul
Kobe
Durant
Melo
Yao (will be replaced)

Manu,Dirk,Westbrook,Blake,Duncan,D-will,Gasol


I'mma go with the east it should be a battle of speed vs size

Gators123
02-04-2011, 02:43 AM
East

John Walls Era
02-04-2011, 02:44 AM
East. Boston crew has the chemistry. Plus the starting lineup is better.

redsox0717
02-04-2011, 02:45 AM
East. Better balance and talent in the starting 5 and a cohesive bench.

D1JM
02-04-2011, 02:45 AM
East are just too fast and to athletic for those Guys in the west. Imagine a fast break with rose, wade and lebron:drool:

lakeshow3peat
02-04-2011, 02:48 AM
west lets be real best stars in the west

Gators123
02-04-2011, 02:51 AM
west lets be real best stars in the west

Best PG- West
Best SG- East
Best SF- East
Best PF- West
Best C- East

Best player- East

RZZZA
02-04-2011, 02:51 AM
Uhh...I'm gonna go with the team that has wade, lebron and dwight.


oh yeah, and Rose ;)

soonabooma
02-04-2011, 02:51 AM
The East will definitely be loaded with athleticism, but you can't underestimate the skill of the West. Having CP3, Kobe, Durant, and Melo out there is pretty deadly.

210Don
02-04-2011, 02:55 AM
west the whole bench is boston lol..im pretty sure west will win

RZZZA
02-04-2011, 02:57 AM
I still don't know how 4 celtics players got in.

and Garnett and Tim Duncan need to not be in this game at all imo

Hustlenomics
02-04-2011, 02:59 AM
I still don't know how 4 celtics players got in.

and Garnett and Tim Duncan need to not be in this game at all imo

cause they all balling on the best team in the league

kArSoN RyDaH
02-04-2011, 03:00 AM
7 players on the East are from 2 teams. :O lol

RZZZA
02-04-2011, 03:02 AM
cause they all balling on the best team in the league

so pick 1 or 2 of the best players from that team, not 4. Come on...


should have been ray allen and rajon rondo imo

Mudvayne91
02-04-2011, 03:05 AM
Are we all pretty much voting on what side our favorite team is on?

Hustlenomics
02-04-2011, 03:06 AM
so pick 1 or 2 of the best players from that team, not 4. Come on...


should have been ray allen and rajon rondo imo

Pierce is having a great season too and KG balling ..who else in the east should have replaced pierce and kg?

RZZZA
02-04-2011, 03:07 AM
give up one of your 4 for Deng, why not? 4 is too many.

sargon21
02-04-2011, 03:14 AM
Pierce is the best player for the C's this year, playing fantastic, def. deserves to be there.

To the question, the East.

koLohe2133
02-04-2011, 03:17 AM
give up one of your 4 for Deng, why not? 4 is too many.

Nawwwwwww we good.

I don't think Johnson should make it IMO

Hustlenomics
02-04-2011, 03:19 AM
give up one of your 4 for Deng, why not? 4 is too many.

i'd put Granger over Deng


Nawwwwwww we good.

I don't think Johnson should make it IMO

Joe Johnson averaging 20, 5, and 4 he's an all star

RZZZA
02-04-2011, 03:24 AM
something about seeing aging veterans like garnett and duncan in rubs me the wrong way. These guys are multiple time all stars anyway, move over and give someone younger some exposure already.

How many all star games is this already for Duncan and Garnett, 13?

metspride21
02-04-2011, 03:38 AM
East. Boston crew has the chemistry. Plus the starting lineup is better.

x2
plus who is there center?I
think they will be a bit undersized in the game.
amare dwight and lebron upfront thats a big solid front court

Baller1
02-04-2011, 03:43 AM
The West will only win if it becomes a shootout, because 3 of the 4 best scorers in the league are starting for the West. Otherwise, the East will take it.

maddBat
02-04-2011, 03:45 AM
who cares? :shrug:

Hellcrooner
02-04-2011, 04:08 AM
who cares?

smood999
02-04-2011, 04:22 AM
east...the east starting line up has to be on of the most explosive lineups athletically ever put on a basketball court...

Chi StateOfMind
02-04-2011, 04:32 AM
East hands down

SB1
02-04-2011, 04:34 AM
East

Enemey
02-04-2011, 04:37 AM
Best PG- West
Best SG- West
Best SF- East
Best PF- West
Best C- East

Best player- East

Fixed. How about we list which side has the best players for each Position.

PGs- West
SGs- West
SFs- Tie
PFs- West
Cs- East

chicago lulz
02-04-2011, 04:38 AM
I agree with the who cares. It's the all-star game, which is...relevant?

Should be entertaining nonetheless.

210Don
02-04-2011, 04:44 AM
we should ask who will win the rookie challenge

J-Relo
02-04-2011, 05:36 AM
East have better starters. East has a chemistry on their bench.

I pick East.

gbrl
02-04-2011, 05:41 AM
Fixed. How about we list which side has the best players for each Position.

PGs- West
S Gs- West
SFs- Tie
PFs- West
Cs- East

imo
PGs- West
SGs- Tie
SFs- East
PFs- West
Cs- East

Tdotraptors
02-04-2011, 05:43 AM
the east prolly have the most athletic player at every position starting for them. the only exception might be blake griffin over amare. i say east

Enemey
02-04-2011, 06:01 AM
imo
PGs- West
SGs- Tie
SFs- East
PFs- West
Cs- East

Top East SGs : Dwayne Wade, Ray Allen, Joe Johnson ( IMO overrated )

Top West SGs: Kobe Bryant, Monta Ellis, Kevin Martin, Eric Gordon, Brandon Roy(Healthy) Manu Ginobili, Tyreke Evans( Healthy)

I don't see how its a tie.

Top East SF: Lebron James, Paul Pierce, Danny Granger, Gerald Wallace( even though having a down year)

Top West SF: Kevin Durant, Carmello Anthony, Rudy Gay, Michael Beasly

I'm unsure about these two guys Caron Butler and Loul Deng.

I see the SF as a tie

Reversed86Curse
02-04-2011, 06:13 AM
something about seeing aging veterans like garnett and duncan in rubs me the wrong way. These guys are multiple time all stars anyway, move over and give someone younger some exposure already.

How many all star games is this already for Duncan and Garnett, 13?

13 for Kobe too, leave him out?

alencp3
02-04-2011, 08:42 AM
West wins, Griffin MVP with 35 points and 10 rebounds

alencp3
02-04-2011, 08:44 AM
we should ask who will win the rookie challenge

Rookies win, Griffin MVP with 45 points and 20 rebounds

alencp3
02-04-2011, 08:44 AM
Slam Dunk? Griffin wins with all 50s

alencp3
02-04-2011, 08:45 AM
I'm gonna go on a limb and say he will be the GOAT PF

JackB
02-04-2011, 08:52 AM
The whole All star selection is a joke !!!!:facepalm:

J-Relo
02-04-2011, 08:54 AM
The whole All star selection is a joke !!!!:facepalm:

it's decent...

who do you have? :eyebrow:

BALLER R
02-04-2011, 09:14 AM
the team that plays defense

BALLER R
02-04-2011, 09:17 AM
looking at the line up whats exactly is an all-star. to me seems more like the best player or best players on the top teams. but being an all star is kind of individual. guys that put up great numbers dont make it because their team is bad.

John Walls Era
02-04-2011, 09:49 AM
West wins, Griffin MVP with 35 points and 10 rebounds

I really doubt it. I would predict that he gets less than 15 points. But we'll see.

Hustlenomics
02-04-2011, 10:48 AM
you guys don't really think Joe Johnson is a bum do y'all?!

lakeshow3peat
02-04-2011, 03:51 PM
Best PG- West
Best SG- East
Best SF- East
Best PF- West
Best C- East

Best player- East

Best player is not in the east

CHANGO
02-04-2011, 03:53 PM
The East has more athleticism, more size, more balance. More everything...

Gators123
02-04-2011, 03:59 PM
Best player is not in the east

:confused: LeBrons in the East

Chacarron
02-04-2011, 04:01 PM
something about seeing aging veterans like garnett and duncan in rubs me the wrong way. These guys are multiple time all stars anyway, move over and give someone younger some exposure already.

How many all star games is this already for Duncan and Garnett, 13?

It's called lifetime achievement award.

Htownballa1622
02-04-2011, 04:04 PM
Best player is not in the east

Yes lebron is in the east

Catoblepas
02-04-2011, 04:12 PM
4 guys from one team heh... reminds me of that year where chauncy Rip rasheed and Ben Wallace all made it in.. i think even Flip saunders was the head couch if i remember correctly.. Man idk how fair it really is to have all 4 out there at one time.. i know when those pistons were out there they went on a pretty big run.. but even then its nice to see that players arent penalized for playing together.. imo all deserving Celts play good

mttwlsn16
02-04-2011, 04:12 PM
Are we all pretty much voting on what side our favorite team is on?

i did lol

TRF929
02-04-2011, 04:13 PM
It's called lifetime achievement award.

No, I don't think so. The coaches just know who's good, I'm only talking about Duncan here. I'm sure Timmy doesn't even care about the game, as he would rather be home resting, but it helps that Pop is the coach, so he'll give Duncan a cameo apperance for the fans, but no more than 5 mins. Personally I didnt vote/want Duncan to be nominated so he could rest. Timmy has never cared for anything but championships, as he gave up playing for team USA, I believe in 08' so others can enjoy the oppurtunity.

mttwlsn16
02-04-2011, 04:13 PM
Yes lebron is in the east

right, but kobe isnt. he said the best player

Htownballa1622
02-04-2011, 04:34 PM
right, but kobe isnt. he said the best player

you do realize its 2011? Not 2007.:eyebrow:

J-Relo
02-04-2011, 04:50 PM
right, but kobe isnt. he said the best player

I didn't know there is better player in the West because Kobe clearly isn't. :eyebrow:

clehmun
02-04-2011, 05:32 PM
west has too many players who don't care about the all-star game.

cp3 injured won't even play half serious.
kobe, gasol, duncan, dirk won't play hard.


in the east, all the celtics won't go all out. but they still got a lot of young ones who will be excited for the game, and have something to prove.

Tony_Starks
02-04-2011, 05:45 PM
you guys don't really think Joe Johnson is a bum do y'all?!



Unfortunately they do. Next to the constant D Rose hate, hating on Joe Johnson is probably the next most popular trend on here.


But back to topic since the East team is basically the Celtics Im gonna have to go ahead and roll with the West Side on this one!!

bklynny67
02-04-2011, 05:52 PM
depends on if the East plays their starters most the time. if KG, Johnson, Horford get a lot of playing time, the West will probably win.

Rangers331
02-04-2011, 05:55 PM
I'm pretty sure Amare is better than Melo at the PF position.....

bklynny67
02-04-2011, 05:55 PM
Best player is not in the east

i hate Lebron too, but have to say he is the current best player in the NBA. stop being a homer. Kobe isn't the best anymore. basically all he does is score. Lebron does it all.

FadeAwayLikeMJ
02-04-2011, 06:56 PM
I say KG plays 8 minutes. (hopefully)

Rivera
02-04-2011, 07:01 PM
east...i cant wait to see this lineup on the floor for the east

PG rondo
SG ray allen
SF pierce
PF KG
C Dwight

the C's and dwight :drool: the west might not even be able to score against that lineup

RZZZA
02-04-2011, 07:04 PM
east...i cant wait to see this lineup on the floor for the east

PG rondo
SG ray allen
SF pierce
PF KG
C Dwight

the C's and dwight :drool: the west might not even be able to score against that lineup

if that line up ever happens I might have to turn the game off. All 4 celtics better not be on the floor at once...EVER

Rivera
02-04-2011, 07:06 PM
if that line up ever happens I might have to turn the game off. All 4 celtics better not be on the floor at once...EVER

lol ur a hater...that would be defensive basketball at its best....and it might actually be a game cause the 4 C's know each other and you know KG is gonna bark at dwight that team would be :drool:

Enemey
02-04-2011, 07:06 PM
if that line up ever happens I might have to turn the game off. All 4 celtics better not be on the floor at once...EVER

It will be one of the most boring All-star game EVER.

RZZZA
02-04-2011, 07:07 PM
I can see how you would enjoy that as a celtics fan, but I can also see how non-celtics-fans would not enjoy that.

If we wanted to watch a celtics game, we would. We want an all-star game.

Enemey
02-04-2011, 07:09 PM
lol ur a hater...that would be defensive basketball at its best....and it might actually be a game cause the 4 C's know each other and you know KG is gonna bark at dwight that team would be :drool:

Yeah just like how the 2005 finals Spurs vs Pistons right? Great ratings !

Rivera
02-04-2011, 07:25 PM
I can see how you would enjoy that as a celtics fan, but I can also see how non-celtics-fans would not enjoy that.

If we wanted to watch a celtics game, we would. We want an all-star game.

lol im not a celtic fan....im an orlando fan...get ur facts straight


Yeah just like how the 2005 finals Spurs vs Pistons right? Great ratings !

umm boston is a bigger market...so the ratings would be way better than that...and rondo maybe a top 5/10 most exciting player to watch in the league right now

RZZZA
02-04-2011, 07:28 PM
whatever Riley, don't make me kick your ***...again.

You know your kung fu is no match for my kung fu.

lakeshow3peat
02-04-2011, 07:34 PM
i hate Lebron too, but have to say he is the current best player in the NBA. stop being a homer. Kobe isn't the best anymore. basically all he does is score. Lebron does it all.

Kobe isn't the best anymore what a joke got to be one of my favorite jokes right now . Kobe can do it all as well if not better than lebron . lebron is a good athlete probably the most athletic but lebron is no better than kobe . That being said kobe is falling a lilttle but your telling me lebron is better than durant? blake griffin? yes only a rookie but come on lebron is overrated he has a weakness and thats trying to be the best like MJ and Kobe which he will never be in those discussions till he wins more than kobe and MJ which will never happen

Rivera
02-04-2011, 07:57 PM
whatever Riley, don't make me kick your ***...again.

You know your kung fu is no match for my kung fu.

dont make me call ginny and ed to come whoop your ***

The Flash
02-04-2011, 08:06 PM
Can't wait to see how Doc coaches that team...East team looks crazy this year...I'm sure it'll be a good experience for Heat players

Htownballa1622
02-04-2011, 08:14 PM
Kobe isn't the best anymore what a joke got to be one of my favorite jokes right now . Kobe can do it all as well if not better than lebron . lebron is a good athlete probably the most athletic but lebron is no better than kobe . That being said kobe is falling a lilttle but your telling me lebron is better than durant? blake griffin? yes only a rookie but come on lebron is overrated he has a weakness and thats trying to be the best like MJ and Kobe which he will never be in those discussions till he wins more than kobe and MJ which will never happen

um...lbj is better than durant and blake griffin.
yes even better than kobe.

"kobe can do it all as well if not better than lebron?"- can u prove that because we're obviously watching two different things.

Cano4prez
02-04-2011, 08:17 PM
Kobe isn't the best anymore what a joke got to be one of my favorite jokes right now . Kobe can do it all as well if not better than lebron . lebron is a good athlete probably the most athletic but lebron is no better than kobe . That being said kobe is falling a lilttle but your telling me lebron is better than durant? blake griffin? yes only a rookie but come on lebron is overrated he has a weakness and thats trying to be the best like MJ and Kobe which he will never be in those discussions till he wins more than kobe and MJ which will never happen

Wow, just wow..

:facepalm:

Enemey
02-04-2011, 08:28 PM
lol im not a celtic fan....im an orlando fan...get ur facts straight



umm boston is a bigger market...so the ratings would be way better than that...and rondo maybe a top 5/10 most exciting player to watch in the league right now

ummm I was talking about the all-star game. And No Rondo is not Top 5/10 exciting player to watch in the league, his same fake pass and layup gets kinda old. Whats so exciting about him if you're not a Celtics fan?

Rose, Wade, Lebron, Amer'e, Dwight, Kevin Love, Dirk, Kevin Durant, Deron Williams, Chris Paul, Monta Ellis, Russel Westbrook, I can name more and they're all more exciting to watch then Rondo.

Edit: Whoops forgot about Blake Griffin. And also Rondo is not even the most exciting player to watch on the Celtics let alone the League.

Hustlenomics
02-04-2011, 08:34 PM
^ Rondo isn't exciting then you name Kevin Love being more exciting..wtf

bklynny67
02-04-2011, 08:39 PM
Kobe isn't the best anymore what a joke got to be one of my favorite jokes right now . Kobe can do it all as well if not better than lebron . lebron is a good athlete probably the most athletic but lebron is no better than kobe . That being said kobe is falling a lilttle but your telling me lebron is better than durant? blake griffin? yes only a rookie but come on lebron is overrated he has a weakness and thats trying to be the best like MJ and Kobe which he will never be in those discussions till he wins more than kobe and MJ which will never happen

HOLY S*HIT!!!! DID YOU JUST SAY BLAKE GRIFFIN, having only played 1/2 a season in the NBA, IS ALREADY BETTER THAN LEBRON????


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

this has got to be the funniest thing i've ever heard on here. how can i make that statement be on my sig? thats just awesome!!! lol

Enemey
02-04-2011, 08:40 PM
^ Rondo isn't exciting then you name Kevin Love being more exciting..wtf

Yup because he can score and grab a ton of rebounds and not to mention make 3's. All Rondo does give the Ball to Ray, Paul, or Kevin Garnett and its an easy assist.

Hustlenomics
02-04-2011, 08:42 PM
oh you're a laker fan..

Enemey
02-04-2011, 08:57 PM
oh you're a laker fan..

Yeah so? I find Ray Allen exciting . Matter of fact I find the Celtics exciting to watch. But please tell me how Rondo is the top 5-10 player to watch in the league other then him passing the ball.

Tony_Starks
02-04-2011, 09:15 PM
i hate Lebron too, but have to say he is the current best player in the NBA. stop being a homer. Kobe isn't the best anymore. basically all he does is score. Lebron does it all.



All Kobe does is score? Ok. 25 pts 5 rbnds 5 assist all while playing the least amount of minutes he's played in over 10 years but yeah if you say so.

I'll give you guys credit for one thing, you do find new and creative ways to discredit one of the best that ever did it.

I know one thing though if Lebron is doing the things that Kobe is doing and winning rings in HIS 30's, you guys would probably build a altar to him and bow down to it!!

gbrl
02-04-2011, 09:37 PM
Top East SGs : Dwayne Wade, Ray Allen, Joe Johnson ( IMO overrated )

Top West SGs: Kobe Bryant, Monta Ellis, Kevin Martin, Eric Gordon, Brandon Roy(Healthy) Manu Ginobili, Tyreke Evans( Healthy)

I don't see how its a tie.

Top East SF: Lebron James, Paul Pierce, Danny Granger, Gerald Wallace( even though having a down year)

Top West SF: Kevin Durant, Carmello Anthony, Rudy Gay, Michael Beasly

I'm unsure about these two guys Caron Butler and Loul Deng.

I see the SF as a tie

my picks were based on the all star selections not on conferences as a whole

bklynny67
02-04-2011, 09:59 PM
All Kobe does is score? Ok. 25 pts 5 rbnds 5 assist all while playing the least amount of minutes he's played in over 10 years but yeah if you say so.

I'll give you guys credit for one thing, you do find new and creative ways to discredit one of the best that ever did it.

I know one thing though if Lebron is doing the things that Kobe is doing and winning rings in HIS 30's, you guys would probably build a altar to him and bow down to it!!

what do u mean "you guys"???

i hate Lebron and i have no problem with Kobe, and i dont care about either team their on... i'm just stating that Lebron is currently the best player in the league. Kobe having that many rings doesnt automatically mean he is the current best player. Lebron putting up 26.6 ppg, 7.2 apg, and 7.3 rpg on a team that also features Wade who gets 25.4 ppg and 6.7 rpg and Bosh who gets 18.4 ppg and 8.1 rpg.

again, i cant stress enough how much i dislike Lebron, so there is no homerism here like their is on your part. Lebron is the current best player in the NBA. you forget that Kobe has had Shaq or Pau for all his championships. who has Lebron had?

Lebron is the better player now

justinnum1
02-04-2011, 10:00 PM
east and its really not close

Enemey
02-04-2011, 11:19 PM
what do u mean "you guys"???

i hate Lebron and i have no problem with Kobe, and i dont care about either team their on... i'm just stating that Lebron is currently the best player in the league. Kobe having that many rings doesnt automatically mean he is the current best player. Lebron putting up 26.6 ppg, 7.2 apg, and 7.3 rpg on a team that also features Wade who gets 25.4 ppg and 6.7 rpg and Bosh who gets 18.4 ppg and 8.1 rpg.

again, i cant stress enough how much i dislike Lebron, so there is no homerism here like their is on your part. Lebron is the current best player in the NBA. you forget that Kobe has had Shaq or Pau for all his championships. who has Lebron had?

Lebron is the better player now

Wade, Kobe, Lebron all played with Shaq

Kobe+Shaq= 3 rings and 4 Finals appearance
Wade+Shaq= 1 ring and next year bounced out first round
Lebron+Shaq= FAIL!

ElMarroAfamado
02-05-2011, 12:01 AM
West is winning this....
it all depends on when they actually start "really playing" instead of taking jumpshot after jumpshot haha

Tony_Starks
02-05-2011, 12:28 AM
what do u mean "you guys"???

i hate Lebron and i have no problem with Kobe, and i dont care about either team their on... i'm just stating that Lebron is currently the best player in the league. Kobe having that many rings doesnt automatically mean he is the current best player. Lebron putting up 26.6 ppg, 7.2 apg, and 7.3 rpg on a team that also features Wade who gets 25.4 ppg and 6.7 rpg and Bosh who gets 18.4 ppg and 8.1 rpg.

again, i cant stress enough how much i dislike Lebron, so there is no homerism here like their is on your part. Lebron is the current best player in the NBA. you forget that Kobe has had Shaq or Pau for all his championships. who has Lebron had?

Lebron is the better player now


If you take Lebron over Kobe because of his stat line thats cool. I don't agree.I'd take Kobe's midrange over Lebrons any day, I'd take his 3 over Lebrons any day, and I'd take his defense over Lebrons any day. And for about the last 5 or 6 years GMs have voted on the one player in the league they want taking the final shot. Guess who they said?

And as far as the famous "Kobe had help" argument (which nba champion didn't have help btw?) well now that Lebron has help lets see how many rings he gets. Matter of fact lets see if he can beat the same Celtics that Kobe beat. Its not as easy as it looks.

He said himself they're trying to get multiple rings, lets just see. Kobe when he got his "help" took them to the finals the first year. So if Lebron is better we should expect the same out of his squad this year right? If Lebron is in fact the best player in the league and playing with 2 allstars anything short of a finals appearance this year would be an epic fail right?

bklynny67
02-05-2011, 12:45 AM
If you take Lebron over Kobe because of his stat line thats cool. I don't agree.I'd take Kobe's midrange over Lebrons any day, I'd take his 3 over Lebrons any day, and I'd take his defense over Lebrons any day. And for about the last 5 or 6 years GMs have voted on the one player in the league they want taking the final shot. Guess who they said?

And as far as the famous "Kobe had help" argument (which nba champion didn't have help btw?) well now that Lebron has help lets see how many rings he gets. Matter of fact lets see if he can beat the same Celtics that Kobe beat. Its not as easy as it looks.

He said himself they're trying to get multiple rings, lets just see. Kobe when he got his "help" took them to the finals the first year. So if Lebron is better we should expect the same out of his squad this year right? If Lebron is in fact the best player in the league and playing with 2 allstars anything short of a finals appearance this year would be an epic fail right?
i agree with the bolded stuff. he now as no excuse not to win. and honestly, i hope he never gets a ring.

bklynny67
02-05-2011, 12:48 AM
Wade, Kobe, Lebron all played with Shaq

Kobe+Shaq= 3 rings and 4 Finals appearance
Wade+Shaq= 1 ring and next year bounced out first round
Lebron+Shaq= FAIL!

when Shaq was playing with Lebron he only played 53 games and avg 12 pts and 6 boards. not even a shell of the player who played with Kobe and Wade. if Shaq was still dominating, i'm sure most everyone would agree CLE woulda won a championship with him and Lebron.

ChI_ShIzzLe
02-05-2011, 12:52 AM
East 200-199

Raph12
02-05-2011, 01:26 AM
Give me Rose-Wade-Lebron-Amare-Dwight with the Celts Big 4 off the bench any day of the week...

lakeshow3peat
02-05-2011, 01:37 AM
um...lbj is better than durant and blake griffin.
yes even better than kobe.

"kobe can do it all as well if not better than lebron?"- can u prove that because we're obviously watching two different things.


who has been around the longest ? Kobe
Rings obviously ? kobe
surrounded with better and more productive teammates ? kobe
clutch ? kobe
mid range ? kobe
3 point ? kobe
scored 81 against a team ? kobe
coached by phil jackson most of his career one of best coach if not the best
plays through injuries and get teammates involved

lebrons game is just attack the boards and be a beast thats all . He is not that dangerous as you think .

lakeshow3peat
02-05-2011, 01:39 AM
Wow, just wow..

:facepalm:


believe it man get off that lbj bandwagon

lakeshow3peat
02-05-2011, 01:42 AM
HOLY S*HIT!!!! DID YOU JUST SAY BLAKE GRIFFIN, having only played 1/2 a season in the NBA, IS ALREADY BETTER THAN LEBRON????


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

this has got to be the funniest thing i've ever heard on here. how can i make that statement be on my sig? thats just awesome!!! lol

laugh now but he is the next star in LA . He is dominating right now if u havent noticed

Caveman508
02-05-2011, 03:24 AM
so pick 1 or 2 of the best players from that team, not 4. Come on...


should have been ray allen and rajon rondo imo

How much Boston Ball have you watched this season out of curiosity...

KG is playing 08 status

and Pierce is in highs from 3 and playing like 08 as well

they are explosive

some lag but thats expected at their age....

I see where Boozer could have been a snub Noah def if he never missed game time and maybe not a cast on his thumb

Kyben36
02-05-2011, 03:48 AM
east 100% times as athletic as west

like their odds

J-Relo
02-05-2011, 06:09 AM
who has been around the longest? Kobe
Rings obviously ? kobe
surrounded with better and more productive teammates ? kobe
clutch ? kobe
mid range ? kobe
3 point ? kobe
scored 81 against a team ? kobe
coached by phil jackson most of his career one of best coach if not the best
plays through injuries and get teammates involved

lebrons game is just attack the boards and be a beast thats all . He is not that dangerous as you think .

Who has been around the longest? Does it matter? Let's ask you is the oldest here - that's the same.
Rings obviously? Do rings show any kind of abilities at this point? What about Robert Horry?
Surrounded with better and more productive teammates? How does this make anyone individually better?
Clutch? There was a tread about that. He took a lot of clutch shots, but his percentage isn't as high. Because of his experience int those situations - I pick Kobe too.
Mid range? Kobe .463, Lebron .458 - not an edge to be talked about.
3 point? As of this season, Kobe .304, Lebron .365. Kobe has never been a good 3pt shooter...
Scored 81 against a team? Somehow MJ always gets the nod over a guy who scored 100. Kobe had great seasons scoring-wise, but we are going to the past once again while we are talking about the current situation...
coached by phil jackson most of his career one of best coach if not the best - is that a plus to the player? or we can make more of a plus to the coach, because he managed to get Lakers to the 'ships, he coached Kobe and he is partly the reason why KObe is as good as he is.
plays through injuries and get teammates involved - I respect when players do everything they can, by the way playing through injuries isn't a smart thing to do, especially when your team can do quite well without you. About getting teammates involved - Lebron does it better.

KG2TB
02-05-2011, 06:57 AM
The East has a better starting five but the West has a better bench. It should be a relatively close game. I'm gonna pick the East to win it, though.

MickeyMgl
02-05-2011, 08:05 AM
7 of the twelve players coming from two teams gives the East a huge advantage.

icej
02-05-2011, 08:37 AM
what do u mean "you guys"???

i hate Lebron and i have no problem with Kobe, and i dont care about either team their on... i'm just stating that Lebron is currently the best player in the league. Kobe having that many rings doesnt automatically mean he is the current best player. Lebron putting up 26.6 ppg, 7.2 apg, and 7.3 rpg on a team that also features Wade who gets 25.4 ppg and 6.7 rpg and Bosh who gets 18.4 ppg and 8.1 rpg.

again, i cant stress enough how much i dislike Lebron, so there is no homerism here like their is on your part. Lebron is the current best player in the NBA. you forget that Kobe has had Shaq or Pau for all his championships. who has Lebron had?

Lebron is the better player now

I agree, I respect your objective thinking. I hope there are more like you in PSD.

As for the thread- If the game turns into a shootout the West will win, but if it is an open basketball game like it has been always, I see the east dominating from tip-off.

icej
02-05-2011, 08:43 AM
Wade, Kobe, Lebron all played with Shaq

Kobe+Shaq= 3 rings and 4 Finals appearance
Wade+Shaq= 1 ring and next year bounced out first round
Lebron+Shaq= FAIL!



Comparing shaq in his prime yrs against his declining yrs is plain dumb.

I think Jordan would take a 26 yrs old shaq over a 26 yrs old scottie pippen any day. I know I would, as well as any coach, team owner with a right mind.

J-Relo
02-05-2011, 08:45 AM
I agree, I respect your objective thinking. I hope there are more like you in PSD.

As for the thread- If the game turns into a shootout the West will win, but if it is an open basketball game like it has been always, I see the east dominating from tip-off.

hopefully it's not a shootout

Trace
02-05-2011, 08:56 AM
Imagine a fast break with Rose, Wade, LBJ, A'mare and Dwight. Too sexy...

lakeshow3peat
02-07-2011, 02:39 AM
Who has been around the longest? Does it matter? Let's ask you is the oldest here - that's the same.
Rings obviously? Do rings show any kind of abilities at this point? What about Robert Horry?
Surrounded with better and more productive teammates? How does this make anyone individually better?
Clutch? There was a tread about that. He took a lot of clutch shots, but his percentage isn't as high. Because of his experience int those situations - I pick Kobe too.
Mid range? Kobe .463, Lebron .458 - not an edge to be talked about.
3 point? As of this season, Kobe .304, Lebron .365. Kobe has never been a good 3pt shooter...
Scored 81 against a team? Somehow MJ always gets the nod over a guy who scored 100. Kobe had great seasons scoring-wise, but we are going to the past once again while we are talking about the current situation...
coached by phil jackson most of his career one of best coach if not the best - is that a plus to the player? or we can make more of a plus to the coach, because he managed to get Lakers to the 'ships, he coached Kobe and he is partly the reason why KObe is as good as he is.
plays through injuries and get teammates involved - I respect when players do everything they can, by the way playing through injuries isn't a smart thing to do, especially when your team can do quite well without you. About getting teammates involved - Lebron does it better.


Kobe is still young and knows how to score end of story .
yes rings does show abilities and thats how a players legacy or career is based on .
Robert horry was a big part of lakers championships but this is about kobe and lebron so yeah .
It makes an individual better cause he can find other players as a leader and trust them to take the shot wide open or when the team needs a clutch shot.
The best player (kobe today in NBA) cant make them all but he has the most clutch moves or shot to score .
You can point or show me all the stats but it dont mean a damn thing unless your a kobe hater or lbj bandwagon fan
I give u Mj over Kobe anyday but come on did Mj put up more than 81 i dont think so . Its only Kobe and Wilt
Being coached by Phil is a plus the guy has the most titles and has coached good and great players . It has a huge impact on teams players and performance .
Yes it is Risky playing with injuries but kobe has the passion and skills to overcome those obstacles to win games or put the lakers in the right direction . Lakers will struggle more without kobe .
well lebron may have an edge on getting teammates involved but he isnt the best at it

29$JerZ
02-07-2011, 02:54 AM
LeBron PnR with Amar'e
Rose/Wade/Dwight Fast break
:drool:

It's the East imo
West not having a legit C will hurt too but its not like this game means anything

MJ-BULLS
02-07-2011, 02:57 AM
east will destroy the west. ;)

but seriously, the east is to athletic, fast, and to good.

Enemey
02-07-2011, 07:28 AM
Comparing shaq in his prime yrs against his declining yrs is plain dumb.

I think Jordan would take a 26 yrs old shaq over a 26 yrs old scottie pippen any day. I know I would, as well as any coach, team owner with a right mind.

Jordan would still take a 26 yrs old scottie pippen. Did you forget about him bashing Lebron James ?

I didn't compare his prime years to his declining years, all I did was mention a FACT. Lebron played with Shaq.

AIRMAR72
02-07-2011, 09:17 AM
Kobe is still young and knows how to score end of story .
yes rings does show abilities and thats how a players legacy or career is based on .
Robert horry was a big part of lakers championships but this is about kobe and lebron so yeah .
It makes an individual better cause he can find other players as a leader and trust them to take the shot wide open or when the team needs a clutch shot.
The best player (kobe today in NBA) cant make them all but he has the most clutch moves or shot to score .
You can point or show me all the stats but it dont mean a damn thing unless your a kobe hater or lbj bandwagon fan
I give u Mj over Kobe anyday but come on did Mj put up more than 81 i dont think so . Its only Kobe and Wilt
Being coached by Phil is a plus the guy has the most titles and has coached good and great players . It has a huge impact on teams players and performance .
Yes it is Risky playing with injuries but kobe has the passion and skills to overcome those obstacles to win games or put the lakers in the right direction . Lakers will struggle more without kobe .
well lebron may have an edge on getting teammates involved but he isnt the best at it

best player in today nba is wade, wade he came in da league better than tobe(in rev jesse jackson voice) i meant kobe trust me if kobe was playing in da golden era i dout he average 18 point kobe is not even better than scottie pippen in his prime so stop bring up JORDAN name with this fake guy kobe

lakeshow3peat
02-07-2011, 02:14 PM
best player in today nba is wade, wade he came in da league better than tobe(in rev jesse jackson voice) i meant kobe trust me if kobe was playing in da golden era i dout he average 18 point kobe is not even better than scottie pippen in his prime so stop bring up JORDAN name with this fake guy kobe

I say D Wade is second or up on my best players list not 1 but before lebron that is for sure . And fake? lol you are as ignorant as them come buddy. Give me some reasons why an NBA player can be fake? I dislike players but i would never call them fake . Now i will say this what is fake is lebrons hype all the time there are younger and better players than him such as Durant and Rose for an example.

Eagles4Lyfe
02-07-2011, 02:48 PM
Best PG- West
Best SG- East
Best SF- East
Best PF- West
Best C- East

Best player- East

What a hater first of all kobe's still the best player in the league no matter what anyone says..
Second he's better than Easts SG, what kind of next level hating is this

Htownballa1622
02-07-2011, 03:45 PM
Kobe is still young and knows how to score end of story .
yes rings does show abilities and thats how a players legacy or career is based on .
Robert horry was a big part of lakers championships but this is about kobe and lebron so yeah .
It makes an individual better cause he can find other players as a leader and trust them to take the shot wide open or when the team needs a clutch shot.
The best player (kobe today in NBA) cant make them all but he has the most clutch moves or shot to score .
You can point or show me all the stats but it dont mean a damn thing unless your a kobe hater or lbj bandwagon fan
I give u Mj over Kobe anyday but come on did Mj put up more than 81 i dont think so . Its only Kobe and Wilt
Being coached by Phil is a plus the guy has the most titles and has coached good and great players . It has a huge impact on teams players and performance .
Yes it is Risky playing with injuries but kobe has the passion and skills to overcome those obstacles to win games or put the lakers in the right direction . Lakers will struggle more without kobe .
well lebron may have an edge on getting teammates involved but he isnt the best at it


Srry I'm just responding.you my friend-homer.
Just look at your name.
You discredit numbers that are actually factual and then in turn respond with opinionated formed answers :facepalm:
honestly, this is an all star thread.
I don't want to argue with a laker fan over who's the best player TODAY:rolleyes:

...Soo- the best player in the league imo is lbj
The best player in your opinion is kobe;)

Oh j-relo...thanks for answering those funny claims this guy put up.i was busy yesterday.

Ray
02-07-2011, 04:11 PM
I think the west will win, either Kobe, Blake, or Pau (not likely in my opinion) being the hometown guys will win the MVP.

J-Relo
02-07-2011, 04:28 PM
Srry I'm just responding.you my friend-homer.
Just look at your name.
You discredit numbers that are actually factual and then in turn respond with opinionated formed answers :facepalm:
honestly, this is an all star thread.
I don't want to argue with a laker fan over who's the best player TODAY:rolleyes:

...Soo- the best player in the league imo is lbj
The best player in your opinion is kobe;)

Oh j-relo...thanks for answering those funny claims this guy put up.i was busy yesterday.

I put facts and arguments, he completely ignores them. He's is too biased I guess.

SiR Lakers III
02-07-2011, 04:30 PM
Best PG WEST
Best SG WEST
BEST SF WEST
BEST PF WEST
BEST C EAST

BEST BENCH WEST

J-Relo
02-07-2011, 04:32 PM
Best PG WEST
Best SG WEST
BEST SF WEST
BEST PF WEST
BEST C EAST

BEST BENCH WEST

Is it Kevin Durant or Carmelo?

lakeshow3peat
02-07-2011, 04:34 PM
Srry I'm just responding.you my friend-homer.
Just look at your name.
You discredit numbers that are actually factual and then in turn respond with opinionated formed answers :facepalm:
honestly, this is an all star thread.
I don't want to argue with a laker fan over who's the best player TODAY:rolleyes:

...Soo- the best player in the league imo is lbj
The best player in your opinion is kobe;)

Oh j-relo...thanks for answering those funny claims this guy put up.i was busy yesterday.


Best player between Lebron and Kobe i pick kobe yes u got that right but as of today best player is Kevin durant so just to make things clear .

lakeshow3peat
02-07-2011, 04:39 PM
I put facts and arguments, he completely ignores them. He's is too biased I guess.


I dont ignore them i am aware of lebrons stats but stats are not always good.
Too biased ha ha not even man . u dont know me so stop judging and watch lebrons career end up behind the real great players who have rings .

J-Relo
02-07-2011, 05:00 PM
I dont ignore them i am aware of lebrons stats but stats are not always good.
Too biased ha ha not even man . u dont know me so stop judging and watch lebrons career end up behind the real great players who have rings .

I don't know you as a person but I see what you write.



Kobe is still young and knows how to score end of story .
You said > who's been around longest. However, the years you are pro are irrelevant especially when you compare players of different age.

yes rings does show abilities and thats how a players legacy or career is based on .
Robert horry was a big part of lakers championships but this is about kobe and lebron so yeah .
One question, Jordan before he got his first, let's say the year before, or Kobe now?

It makes an individual better cause he can find other players as a leader and trust them to take the shot wide open or when the team needs a clutch shot.
Having better players don't make you better, it makes you team better.

The best player (kobe today in NBA) cant make them all but he has the most clutch moves or shot to score .
You said it's Durant???

You can point or show me all the stats but it dont mean a damn thing unless your a kobe hater or lbj bandwagon fan
Stats don't mean anything only if you look at them like that.

I give u Mj over Kobe anyday but come on did Mj put up more than 81 i dont think so . Its only Kobe and Wilt
I said that even though Wilt scored 100 MJ is still considered as the best player by most of the fans, which should make no sense in your logic.

Being coached by Phil is a plus the guy has the most titles and has coached good and great players . It has a huge impact on teams players and performance .
Coach can help you to improve, but he doesn't make you better unless you work on your own.

Yes it is Risky playing with injuries but kobe has the passion and skills to overcome those obstacles to win games or put the lakers in the right direction . Lakers will struggle more without kobe .
I agree on this one.

well lebron may have an edge on getting teammates involved but he isnt the best at it

I never said he is the best, just better than Kobe. Lebron being not the best at it doesn't make him any lesser in the presence of Kobe.

CHANGO
02-07-2011, 05:18 PM
I don't know you as a person but I see what you write.


You said > who's been around longest. However, the years you are pro are irrelevant especially when you compare players of different age.

One question, Jordan before he got his first, let's say the year before, or Kobe now?

Having better players don't make you better, it makes you team better.

You said it's Durant???

Stats don't mean anything only if you look at them like that.

I said that even though Wilt scored 100 MJ is still considered as the best player by most of the fans, which should make no sense in your logic.

Coach can help you to improve, but he doesn't make you better unless you work on your own.

I agree on this one.

I never said he is the best, just better than Kobe. Lebron being not the best at it doesn't make him any lesser in the presence of Kobe.
:laugh:
Yes he said that! LMAO


Kobe is still young and knows how to score end of story .
yes rings does show abilities and thats how a players legacy or career is based on .
Robert horry was a big part of lakers championships but this is about kobe and lebron so yeah .
It makes an individual better cause he can find other players as a leader and trust them to take the shot wide open or when the team needs a clutch shot.
The best player (kobe today in NBA) cant make them all but he has the most clutch moves or shot to score .
You can point or show me all the stats but it dont mean a damn thing unless your a kobe hater or lbj bandwagon fan
I give u Mj over Kobe anyday but come on did Mj put up more than 81 i dont think so . Its only Kobe and Wilt
Being coached by Phil is a plus the guy has the most titles and has coached good and great players . It has a huge impact on teams players and performance .
Yes it is Risky playing with injuries but kobe has the passion and skills to overcome those obstacles to win games or put the lakers in the right direction . Lakers will struggle more without kobe .
well lebron may have an edge on getting teammates involved but he isnt the best at it


Best player between Lebron and Kobe i pick kobe yes u got that right but as of today best player is Kevin durant so just to make things clear .

:burn:

That my friend, deserves just that no one will answer a message to him. :clap:

lakeshow3peat
02-07-2011, 05:28 PM
Yes they are different ages but both players careers arent no where over yet .
The kobe and Jordan point is no where close i will take jordans numbers over kobes anyday.
well yeah i did say kobe but i was caught up with trying to make things clear and understandable but i guess that didnt work ha ha but i do think Durant is the best player then kobe in my opinon .
I agree Mj is better than wilt n kobe my point was MJ never scored that many points as wilt had 100 and kobe had 81
A coach can make u better mentally like phil has done with Kobe if Phil didnt coach kobe i dont know if kobe would be who he is today grown up so much understanding who makes the calls on that team . Kobe could have been selfish all his career if it wasnt for phil and teammates one particular derek fisher who knows how to relax kobe and calm him down when he has a temper .

Team*Chicago
02-07-2011, 05:48 PM
The East will kill the West this time. The East have Rose at PG, Wade at SG, LeBron at SF, Amare at PF and D.Howard at C and that is way to much athleticism for the West to handle plus they got quailty depth at each position and the West has 2 SFs and no C in their starting line up and 2 players(Love and Blake) on the allstar team playing on losing teams. There's nothing wrong or negative about the East but the West has 2 flows that are showing and it'll get them killed by the East.

Jonathan2323
02-07-2011, 05:50 PM
The east team is going to be interesting alot of players dislike each other on that team.

Team*Chicago
02-07-2011, 06:04 PM
Yup because he can score and grab a ton of rebounds and not to mention make 3's. All Rondo does give the Ball to Ray, Paul, or Kevin Garnett and its an easy assist.

:nod: I agree, when Rondo got hurt and was on the injury list Nate Robinson putted up the same amount of assist that Rondo does, the only difference was that Nate scores more points than Rondo does because Nate can shoot and Rondo can't. Rondo didn't put up those monsterous assist when he was at the FIFA 2010 and when he truely couldn't he ran home.

Iron24th
02-07-2011, 06:11 PM
I'm for the west but I think east will be too much for them.

Yanks All Day
02-07-2011, 06:15 PM
The side with LeBron James.

Jap_Steak
02-07-2011, 08:26 PM
Yeah... I'm going with the team with the top MVP canidates.

knicks4life33
02-07-2011, 10:15 PM
depends if the game gets out of control and they all try doin dunks and chucking up threes

Hustlenomics
02-07-2011, 10:18 PM
:nod: I agree, when Rondo got hurt and was on the injury list Nate Robinson putted up the same amount of assist that Rondo does, the only difference was that Nate scores more points than Rondo does because Nate can shoot and Rondo can't. Rondo didn't put up those monsterous assist when he was at the FIFA 2010 and when he truely couldn't he ran home.

lmao no he didn't Pierce was leading the team in assists :facepalm:

kobe24>lebron23
02-07-2011, 10:27 PM
Best PG- West
Best SG- East
Best SF- East
Best PF- West
Best C- East

Best player- East
Best PG- West
Best SG- West
Best SF- East
Best PF- West
Best C- East

Best player-West

Idk west will win IMO

kobe24>lebron23
02-07-2011, 10:31 PM
13 for Kobe too, leave him out?

Lol check kobes stats... He's talking about players with not so amazing stats but that are still getting in due to their longetivity in the nba

Clippersfan86
02-07-2011, 10:38 PM
You guys are looking at the starters way too much. West has WAY more depth. The West is 10 deep while the East is about 6 deep. I think West wins by 10


West:

Deron Williams
CP3
Russell Westbrook
Kobe
Manu
Durant
Melo
Blake Griffin
Tim Duncan
Pau Gasol
Dirk
Kevin Love

VS

Rose
Wade
Lebron
Amare
Dwight
Ray Allen
Rondo
Paul Pierce
KG
Chris Bosh
Joe Johnson
Al Horford


If anyone is going to get killed it's the East. Only clear as day advantage I'm giving East is Center . West is deeper at every other position just about.

Deron Williams and CP3> Rose
Kobe> Wade (At best you can say they are equal)
Durant< Lebron (barely)
Melo= Amare (These two are about equal)
Love<Dwight (again not by a huge margin)

Bench: West clear advantage.

kobe24>lebron23
02-07-2011, 10:38 PM
Kobe isn't the best anymore what a joke got to be one of my favorite jokes right now . Kobe can do it all as well if not better than lebron . lebron is a good athlete probably the most athletic but lebron is no better than kobe . That being said kobe is falling a lilttle but your telling me lebron is better than durant? blake griffin? yes only a rookie but come on lebron is overrated he has a weakness and thats trying to be the best like MJ and Kobe which he will never be in those discussions till he wins more than kobe and MJ which will never happen

U were good till u mentioned him not being better then durant and griffin...

Fnom11
02-07-2011, 10:44 PM
Best player between Lebron and Kobe i pick kobe yes u got that right but as of today best player is Kevin durant so just to make things clear .

You're possibly the dumbest poster on this site, congratulations on such a feat.

Fnom11
02-07-2011, 10:46 PM
U were good till u mentioned him not being better then durant and griffin...

Especially seeing Griffin is far from even being considered elite. His post needs a lot of work, he forces shots in the post, forces passes, defense is meh and he's a bad mid range shooter( not to mention his FTs)

kobe24>lebron23
02-07-2011, 10:49 PM
You people are seriously underestimating the west!! West has more depth!

kobe24>lebron23
02-07-2011, 10:51 PM
Especially seeing Griffin is far from even being considered elite. His post needs a lot of work, he forces shots in the post, forces passes, defense is meh and he's a bad mid range shooter( not to mention his FTs)

I agree with some of what u said not all but I do think in 2-3 years he can be the best in the league...

Fnom11
02-07-2011, 10:53 PM
I agree with some of what u said not all but I do think in 2-3 years he can be the best in the league...

Damn man my bad, thought we were talking about CURRENTLY



You're still dumb for having Kobe Wade and Durant better than Lebron. And I'm a huge Wade fan.

kobe24>lebron23
02-07-2011, 11:10 PM
Damn man my bad, thought we were talking about CURRENTLY



You're still dumb for having Kobe Wade and Durant better than Lebron. And I'm a huge Wade fan.

No no no your confusing me with the other guy I only think Kobe is better then Lebron not anyone else!

Fnom11
02-07-2011, 11:28 PM
No no no your confusing me with the other guy I only think Kobe is better then Lebron not anyone else!

May bad, at least your stupidity is blinded by homerism.

PHX2daDEATH
02-07-2011, 11:34 PM
East in a blowout.. How is the west going to stop that starting front-line? Amare, Howard and James vs Duncan Melo and Durant? thats not taking away from any of those players.. my thoughts are that Gasol and Dirk are going to get more time with the starters while Duncan rests.. again Gasol and Dirk do not defend..The East's big fellas are going to have a field day..