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eXpLiiCt
01-31-2011, 08:35 PM
So yeah who do you think will be a star in the making that's in the NBA that no one has heard of or barley talked about.

Yes I am being a homer but I really think Austin Daye of the Detroit Pistons will become a real good player maybe even a star.

Note: im not saying he will, that's just my opinion.

fadedmario
01-31-2011, 08:36 PM
Austin Daye and DeMarcus Cousins

arosen36
01-31-2011, 08:37 PM
hasheem thabeet

cheetos185
01-31-2011, 08:41 PM
timo mosgov hey it's possible with not many great C in east except dwight

eXpLiiCt
01-31-2011, 08:43 PM
timo mosgov hey it's possible with not many great C in east except dwight

Lol just because of yesterday :D

I mean he did look good

StriveGreatness
01-31-2011, 08:43 PM
Greg Monroe.

Side note: DeMarcus Cousins will not become a star.

Carry on.

210Don
01-31-2011, 08:44 PM
james anderson on the spurs watch....

fadedmario
01-31-2011, 08:46 PM
Greg Monroe.

Side note: DeMarcus Cousins will not become a star.

Carry on.

I wanted to list Monroe too. Just didn't want to look like a complete homer. I disagree with you about Cousins. Check the numbers - he's getting better.

fadedmario
01-31-2011, 08:47 PM
james anderson on the spurs watch....

isn't he in the D league?

Hawkeye15
01-31-2011, 08:48 PM
DeRozan, Cousins, and Lawson come to mind

Flash3
01-31-2011, 08:48 PM
Austin Daye and DeMarcus Cousins

what kind of numbers do you think he puts up ?:eyebrow:

fadedmario
01-31-2011, 08:49 PM
timo mosgov hey it's possible with not many great C in east except dwight

He sure looked good last night. You guys should be starting him over Turiaf.

Flash3
01-31-2011, 08:50 PM
I wanted to list Monroe too. Just didn't want to look like a complete homer. I diagree with you about Cousins. Check the numbers - he's getting better.

mentioning monroe wouldnt make you a homer..... but austin day would.

jon32
01-31-2011, 08:50 PM
Ed Davis

fadedmario
01-31-2011, 08:50 PM
what kind of numbers do you think he puts up ?:eyebrow:

Eventually as a starter - 20 ppg. He likes to shoot and has a beautiful shot. Just needs to bulk up and work on his defense.

Crackadalic
01-31-2011, 08:51 PM
Mozzy legit 20-10 guy :D

I think Monroe will be a star soon he beasted yesterday against my knicks

Flash3
01-31-2011, 08:51 PM
DeRozan, Cousins, and Lawson come to mind

idk he seems really ineffcient i also heard he leads the league in +/- dif

lawson for sure he will be really nice

fadedmario
01-31-2011, 08:51 PM
mentioning monroe wouldnt make you a homer..... but austin day would.

Monroe and Daye are both our future. Daye has a higher ceiling.

KnicksR4Real
01-31-2011, 08:51 PM
i thin austin daye and danilo gallinari. they have similiar games, i think in a few years they will be all stars

eXpLiiCt
01-31-2011, 08:51 PM
what kind of numbers do you think he puts up ?:eyebrow:

You don't watch him on the daily bases, so don't assume what he is by his numbers, this isn't look at his stats and deterime if he will be a star, Im saying a star for the future so this has nothing to do with the persons stats buddy.

StriveGreatness
01-31-2011, 08:52 PM
I wanted to list Monroe too. Just didn't want to look like a complete homer. I diagree with you about Cousins. Check the numbers - he's getting better.

Numbers aren't the be all, end all.

Flash3
01-31-2011, 08:53 PM
You don't watch him on the daily bases, so don't assume what he is by his numbers, this isn't look at his stats and deterime if he will be a star, Im saying a star for the future so this has nothing to do with the persons stats buddy.

sorry that whole paragraph is too painful to read.

fadedmario
01-31-2011, 08:54 PM
Numbers aren't the be all, end all.

true true

eXpLiiCt
01-31-2011, 08:54 PM
sorry that whole paragraph is too painful to read.

cool story bro

Flash3
01-31-2011, 08:55 PM
Monroe and Daye are both our future. Daye has a higher ceiling.

idk seems easy to be a "star" at Monroe's position, daye 7ft shooting guard right ?

210Don
01-31-2011, 08:55 PM
isn't he in the D league?

he played the first 6 games of year with us got hurt so they sent him to rehab 2 games down there we called him up saturday he played and scored a bucket.

but he has all the tools reminds me of michael redd with more athleticism

fadedmario
01-31-2011, 08:57 PM
idk seems easy to be a "star" at Monroe's position, daye 7ft shooting guard right ?

Daye is a unique player. 6'11 SG-SF-PF. When Prince is gone, Daye will take his spot.

eXpLiiCt
01-31-2011, 08:57 PM
idk seems easy to be a "star" at Monroe's position, daye 7ft shooting guard right ?

Yeah, Daye does have an disadvatage being how tall he is, he needs to get built

Hawkeye15
01-31-2011, 08:57 PM
idk he seems really ineffcient i also heard he leads the league in +/- dif

lawson for sure he will be really nice

DeRozan appears to be understanding how to be patient. I try not to judge of the +/- too early in a players development.

Dude, if Denver moves Melo, you know Billups will be next, and Lawson will explode. Mark my words.

I also like Greg Monroe. Once Detroit can shed some money and go in to full rebuilding mode, and give the kid 30 mpg, he will improve big time. Such a skilled big man, and I have never been able to figure out where the poor work ethic thing came from, everytime I watched him at GTown he was playing his butt off

fadedmario
01-31-2011, 08:57 PM
he played the first 6 games of year with us got hurt so they sent him to rehab 2 games down there we called him up saturday he played and scored a bucket.

but he has all the tools reminds me of michael redd with more athleticism

I remember when he was drafted the analysts said he was the steal of the draft.

Hawkeye15
01-31-2011, 08:58 PM
he played the first 6 games of year with us got hurt so they sent him to rehab 2 games down there we called him up saturday he played and scored a bucket.

but he has all the tools reminds me of michael redd with more athleticism

yeah, he is more athletic for sure. I would like to see him not get lost in the shuffle with Manu and RJ there, he has some basketball instinct, and I like his game alright.

fadedmario
01-31-2011, 08:59 PM
DeRozan appears to be understanding how to be patient. I try not to judge of the +/- too early in a players development.

Dude, if Denver moves Melo, you know Billups will be next, and Lawson will explode. Mark my words.

I also like Greg Monroe. Once Detroit can shed some money and go in to full rebuilding mode, and give the kid 30 mpg, he will improve big time. Such a skilled big man, and I have never been able to figure out where the poor work ethic thing came from, everytime I watched him at GTown he was playing his butt off

He had 15 points 17 boards last night. Since becoming a starter he's getting it done. We just need to lose RIP somehow

Phenomenonsense
01-31-2011, 09:00 PM
i thin austin daye and danilo gallinari. they have similiar games, i think in a few years they will be all stars

I agree. Danilo could be pretty big, and he has a very similar game as Daye, however I think Danilo has more confidence as of right now, but I think he gets much more frustrated than Daye does. Daye doesn't care if a shot doesn't go in, he just moves on to the next one. Don't know if they'll be All Stars, but both very good role players at least.

fadedmario
01-31-2011, 09:01 PM
I also like JaVale McGee

Evolution23
01-31-2011, 09:02 PM
Landry Fields

Young and Stupid
01-31-2011, 09:02 PM
Terrence Williams without a doubt.

eXpLiiCt
01-31-2011, 09:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Hdm0oP3Lh8

:D

PhillyFaninLA
01-31-2011, 09:03 PM
I think in 3 years Jrue Holliday will be a top 5 or top 3 PG and Evan Turner will be a borderline triple double machine (something like 17 pts, 12 reb, 8 asst. 2.5 steals, .8 blocks average)

eXpLiiCt
01-31-2011, 09:03 PM
I also like JaVale McGee

Same

fadedmario
01-31-2011, 09:04 PM
Will Avery Bradley (Celtics) ever do anything. I haven't seen him play. He had mad game in college.

210Don
01-31-2011, 09:05 PM
yeah, he is more athletic for sure. I would like to see him not get lost in the shuffle with Manu and RJ there, he has some basketball instinct, and I like his game alright.

i dont think he will. pop seems to like him he was playing about 15 mins a game before he got hurt, some good playing time & hes rj back up so hes in the rotation you will see alot of him from now on im sure.

Hawkeye15
01-31-2011, 09:07 PM
i dont think he will. pop seems to like him he was playing about 15 mins a game before he got hurt, some good playing time & hes rj back up so hes in the rotation you will see alot of him from now on im sure.

yeah, if you can squeak 15 mpg out of a rook on a 40-7 team, he obviously can't be bad haha

Flash3
01-31-2011, 09:08 PM
He had 15 points 17 boards last night. Since becoming a starter he's getting it done. We just need to lose RIP somehow

kyrie irving would be great for you guys.

idk if you guys have a 2nd 1st rounder but it would be awesome if you guys pick sullinger then brandon knight later into the draft

knight
stuckey
daye
sulinger
monroe

beast team and bright future.

Raph12
01-31-2011, 09:09 PM
John Wall

Flash3
01-31-2011, 09:09 PM
assuming you continue with your tanking ways that is :p

Bishnoff
01-31-2011, 09:10 PM
Ed Davis.

Khalifa21
01-31-2011, 09:10 PM
Cousins, Monroe, Lawson

Hawkeye15
01-31-2011, 09:13 PM
John Wall

way to put yourself out there Raph12....

:)

goose15
01-31-2011, 09:13 PM
Danilo Gallinari..

fadedmario
01-31-2011, 09:15 PM
kyrie irving would be great for you guys.

idk if you guys have a 2nd 1st rounder but it would be awesome if you guys pick sullinger then brandon knight later into the draft

knight
stuckey
daye
sulinger
monroe

beast team and bright future.

That looks like my team on 2k11. :clap:

DwayneMVPwade
01-31-2011, 09:16 PM
Demar Derozan, Ed Davis, Cousins, Favors, Monroe,

Mile High Champ
01-31-2011, 09:19 PM
DeRozan, Cousins, and Lawson come to mind

I would agree with these choices and I would maybe add Wes Johnson & Roy Hibbert.

thekmp211
01-31-2011, 09:20 PM
derozan looks like hes going to blow up next year.

GeekInThePink
01-31-2011, 09:20 PM
Ed Davis, homer pick I know but he's a freaking beast.

Hawkeye15
01-31-2011, 09:25 PM
I would agree with these choices and I would maybe add Wes Johnson & Roy Hibbert.

Wes has a lot to learn, but how could I forget Hibbert? damnit

fadedmario
01-31-2011, 09:27 PM
Ed Davis, homer pick I know but he's a freaking beast.

It will be interesting to see where Favors, Cousins, Monroe, and Davis are in 2 years. This could end up being a pretty good draft for big men.

fadedmario
01-31-2011, 09:28 PM
Wes has a lot to learn, but how could I forget Hibbert? damnit

I forgot about him too. :o

SportsAndrew25
01-31-2011, 09:46 PM
Landry Fields over here in New York can be a great player down the road.

mttwlsn16
01-31-2011, 09:51 PM
landry fields
and my homer pick: al-farouq aminu

BrahCake954
01-31-2011, 09:52 PM
beasley
paul george
wes johnson

eXpLiiCt
01-31-2011, 09:53 PM
For some reason i think Terrico White will be a beast, but he hasn't played a signle NBA game.

mttwlsn16
01-31-2011, 09:55 PM
Wes has a lot to learn, but how could I forget Hibbert? damnit

i think wes johnson is gonna turn into a real nice player. him love and beasley are a real nice 3some to build around, imo

Hawkeye15
01-31-2011, 10:02 PM
i think wes johnson is gonna turn into a real nice player. him love and beasley are a real nice 3some to build around, imo

well, Rambis needs to help here. Wesley, imo, should be running around Rip, Ray Ray, Reggie style, around several picks looking to shake free.
Beasley also needs plays run for him off the ball, so he doesn't have to do everything off isolation, lowering his efficiency. If those simple changes can be made, they could both be great compliments to Love/Rubio.

Hawkeye15
01-31-2011, 10:03 PM
oh and they should learn how to DEFEND THE GOD DAMN PERIMETER!

believeinNYK
01-31-2011, 10:13 PM
Greg Monroe looks like he can become a very good/star center in the east, maybe our guy Mozzy can develop too he looked great yesterday, :D

I see the comparison between Austin Daye and Gallinari, both have length and can stroke it, I think danilos closer to achieving it though

knicks4life33
01-31-2011, 10:21 PM
greg oden

Giraffes Rule
01-31-2011, 10:39 PM
isn't he in the D league?

He played 2 games in the d-league coming off of foot surgery. Kept him out of action for most of the season. I wouldn't say he'll become a star though. Way too early for me. He's only played a handful of games.

The most talented young player on the Spurs, imo, is George Hill. Long arms so he plays taller than he is, plays passing lanes pretty well, and is a very good all around scorer. Corner threes, good in between game, finishes at the basket and is athletic enough to dunk at 6'2" (though his 6'9" wing span helps with that too). Even then though, I'm not sure if he'll become a star.

WAYNEBO
02-01-2011, 01:34 AM
DeMarcus Cousins, LandryMan... I like what I've seen from Wes Johnson so far. Gortat is not new, but he's come out from under the shadows. I'm a big fan of John Wall's game too. The biggest name for years to come??? Blake Griffin is like the Species.... part alien part human.

Raph12
02-01-2011, 01:41 AM
way to put yourself out there Raph12....

:)

Okay, I'll go out on a limb and say he leads the league in apg and spg in 3yrs or less...

Gators123
02-01-2011, 01:43 AM
Greg Monroe, Roy Hibbert

Shkelqim
02-01-2011, 01:49 AM
Evan TURNER!

RZZZA
02-01-2011, 01:51 AM
James Johnson, you watch, when he comes back he's gonna get traded and then he'll be a 20/10 player.

:pray:

Korman12
02-01-2011, 01:53 AM
Cousins.

Chi StateOfMind
02-01-2011, 01:58 AM
cousins only if he gets a therapist otherwise austin daye and gallinari

shep33
02-01-2011, 01:59 AM
Nick Young is capable

pd1dish
02-01-2011, 02:13 AM
my hope is Evan Turner. im an OSU fan and i loved him when he was there cus he was our savior and it sucks seeing him struggle at the nba level. hes got the size and capability to do it and i definitely think he will put in the work so i have high hopes for turner.

Eric Bledsoe also

nolin
02-01-2011, 02:13 AM
Gerald Henderson will become a star once Jackson gets out of town

sunsfan88
02-01-2011, 02:15 AM
Demar DeRozan. Kid's got game but doesn't get recognized playing for Toronto.

PrettyBoyJ
02-01-2011, 02:20 AM
Landry Fields, Austin Daye, Roy Hibbert,

nolin
02-01-2011, 02:25 AM
I think in 3 years Jrue Holliday will be a top 5 or top 3 PG and Evan Turner will be a borderline triple double machine (something like 17 pts, 12 reb, 8 asst. 2.5 steals, .8 blocks average)

no no no no hell no. holiday is a good looking pg but... the pg position is so talented in deep in the league right now. theres no way holiday gets into the top 3-5 pgs. 7- 9 range is within reach though. I think 19 8 rebs in 5 ast will be turners best . No way he gets 12 rebs a game. or 2.5 steals lmao. maybe your being sarcastic i dont know

Swashcuff
02-01-2011, 02:35 AM
Jrue Holiday is a future star in this league. Book it.

John Walls Era
02-01-2011, 02:38 AM
Derozan because of work ethic and IQ.

Wesley Johnson - Potential is there, as well as tangibles.

John Wall - Don't even need to discuss.

Steph Curry - I just think hes solid, and smart.

KadeB
02-01-2011, 03:07 AM
Demar Derozan/Stephen Curry

KadeB
02-01-2011, 03:08 AM
Dexter Pittman once he gets his weight right

airforceones25
02-01-2011, 03:15 AM
Deandre Jordan as long as he stays around Blake to keep him motivated.

SchyGuy11
02-01-2011, 03:28 AM
I think DJ Augustin will become a star. He is really good. I am glad I have D Rose as my PG, but he is definitely a top 5 PG in the East and i think he is going to continue to get better.

HallofFameKidd
02-01-2011, 03:45 AM
Roddy B.

Mudvayne91
02-01-2011, 03:51 AM
Afflalo

kobe24>lebron23
02-01-2011, 04:05 AM
Aminu and Bledsoe idk why the clippers don't play aminu more he's pretty good

Two-3
02-01-2011, 04:12 AM
I'd have to go with Lawson,Hibbert, Steph Curry, Javale Mcgee, and Danilo

Hawkeye15
02-01-2011, 09:56 AM
Aminu and Bledsoe idk why the clippers don't play aminu more he's pretty good

seriously man. And Gomes sucks! I have no clue why Aminu isn't getting more burn. Does his defense need work? Sure. But develop the guy now, please

D Roses Bulls
02-01-2011, 10:00 AM
seriously man. And Gomes sucks! I have no clue why Aminu isn't getting more burn. Does his defense need work? Sure. But develop the guy now, please

I know you probably won't agree, but I'm still convinced if Corey Brewer lands on another team, he can become pretty damn good. minnesota is messing up his progression

Hawkeye15
02-01-2011, 10:08 AM
I know you probably won't agree, but I'm still convinced if Corey Brewer lands on another team, he can become pretty damn good. minnesota is messing up his progression

no, I do not agree. he is a terrible shooter, plays out of control, can't dribble, and gets crushed by a pick. The only thing he can do is provide energy, and guard players who like to catch, turn, square, and isolate.

You can have him dude.

Mplsman
02-01-2011, 10:13 AM
Wes Johnson in a year or two.

Mile High Champ
02-01-2011, 10:13 AM
Wes has a lot to learn, but how could I forget Hibbert? damnit

Yes Hibbert does go unnoticed often by most. Part of the issue is that he plays in Indiana and to be honest I would not watch him play if I wasn't still a Pacers fan. How I miss the days when the Pacers were a great team in the 90's and early 00's..

Flash3
02-01-2011, 10:17 AM
Yes Hibbert does go unnoticed often by most. Part of the issue is that he plays in Indiana and to be honest I would not watch him play if I wasn't still a Pacers fan. How I miss the days when the Pacers were a great team in the 90's and early 00's..

that and his 2inch vertical.

D Roses Bulls
02-01-2011, 10:18 AM
no, I do not agree. he is a terrible shooter, plays out of control, can't dribble, and gets crushed by a pick. The only thing he can do is provide energy, and guard players who like to catch, turn, square, and isolate.

You can have him dude.

I wish minnesota would let us have him. I'd gladly take him.

Hawkeye15
02-01-2011, 10:42 AM
I wish minnesota would let us have him. I'd gladly take him.

I really don't know what they plan to do with him. He is an expiring right now, so he may very well be gone by the trade deadline. Watching Brewer will drive you crazy dude. He makes a spectacular run of plays, and then over the course of the game completely negates any positive he does with throwing the ball into the stands, going for a steal that leads to his man coming down the pipe for an and-1, airballs a 3 with 18 seconds on the shot clock in a one possession game, etc.
He literally cancels himself out over 82 games. Its infuriating

D Roses Bulls
02-01-2011, 10:46 AM
I really don't know what they plan to do with him. He is an expiring right now, so he may very well be gone by the trade deadline. Watching Brewer will drive you crazy dude. He makes a spectacular run of plays, and then over the course of the game completely negates any positive he does with throwing the ball into the stands, going for a steal that leads to his man coming down the pipe for an and-1, airballs a 3 with 18 seconds on the shot clock in a one possession game, etc.
He literally cancels himself out over 82 games. Its infuriating

I have watched 6 games now. I think he just needs a change of scenery and I love his defense. he had a shot in college, so i know he can shoot. id love to have him though. see what he can do in our system.

rleg4305
02-01-2011, 11:17 AM
Nick Young

Hawkeye15
02-01-2011, 11:21 AM
I have watched 6 games now. I think he just needs a change of scenery and I love his defense. he had a shot in college, so i know he can shoot. id love to have him though. see what he can do in our system.

I have watched him play about 200 times. I will side with my opinion on him.
He did not have a shot in college. He had Noah, Horford, Richards, and the rest of the crew letting him take only uncontested, 19'9" college three's (shoot, I hit over 42% on those and I would get killed at HORSE by 95% of the NBA)

Look, he has energy and athletic ability. But his brain can't keep with his body, he plays out of control and his improvements last year lifted him to a below average player. Trust me, I can go on and on regarding this guy, I have for 2 years in the Wolves boards. He is a situational defender at best, can't shoot, can't dribble, and makes poor decisions. Fans fall in love with his dunks and 2 quarters of stellar hustle play that are wedged in 4 quarters of hurting the team.

Take him, I would have no problem.

Weezy
02-01-2011, 11:28 AM
I think the following:
Ty Lawson
Paul George
Greg Monroe
Danilo Gallinari (homer pick but he is only 22 :D)
Nicolas Batum
DeMar DeRozan

Weezy
02-01-2011, 11:31 AM
Gerald Henderson will become a star once Jackson gets out of town

Good pick I forgot about him.. he has all the fundamentals and high IQ.

D Roses Bulls
02-01-2011, 11:36 AM
I have watched him play about 200 times. I will side with my opinion on him.
He did not have a shot in college. He had Noah, Horford, Richards, and the rest of the crew letting him take only uncontested, 19'9" college three's (shoot, I hit over 42% on those and I would get killed at HORSE by 95% of the NBA)

Look, he has energy and athletic ability. But his brain can't keep with his body, he plays out of control and his improvements last year lifted him to a below average player. Trust me, I can go on and on regarding this guy, I have for 2 years in the Wolves boards. He is a situational defender at best, can't shoot, can't dribble, and makes poor decisions. Fans fall in love with his dunks and 2 quarters of stellar hustle play that are wedged in 4 quarters of hurting the team.

Take him, I would have no problem.

dude, I went to college the same time he was playing at the U of F. I am a huge huge huge gator fan and have seen every single game noah, brewer, and horford played, half of them in person. I know what he did in college. he did get many open looks and when he did, he knocked them down. he will get a lot of open looks with the bulls and a open shot sounds easy, but open shots are missed a lot in the NBA. he was a pretty good shooter in college. besides he is still young, he can develop a more consistent jumper in the NBA if given the chance. minnesota screwed him up, and I know that for sure. even the bulls broadcasters and magic broadcasters were all saying they thought minnesota was screwing with his growth. besides that, brewer is a hell of a slasher, and we could definitely use more of that. If he gets in the right system, he'll be the player he was last year, or even better.

college mix

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-5ScC5_T7E

Hawkeye15
02-01-2011, 11:40 AM
dude, I went to college the same time he was playing at the U of F. I am a huge huge huge gator fan and have seen every single game noah, brewer, and horford played, half of them in person. I know what he did in college. he did get many open looks and when he did, he knocked them down. he will get a lot of open looks with the bulls and a open shot sounds easy, but open shots are missed a lot in the NBA. he was a pretty good shooter in college. besides he is still young, he can develop a more consistent jumper in the NBA if given the chance. minnesota screwed him up, and I know that for sure. even the bulls broadcasters and magic broadcasters were all saying they thought minnesota was screwing with his growth. besides that, brewer is a hell of a slasher, and we could definitely use more of that. If he gets in the right system, he'll be the player he was last year, or even better.

college mix

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-5ScC5_T7E


haha, Minnesota screwed him up?

He is a terrible shooter. The college game is completely different. The NBA game will show your weaknesses very quickly.

You can have the player he was last year. Below average. Take him.

We are done on Brewer. I have written enough on him for Tokken to be proud.

Hawkeye15
02-01-2011, 11:45 AM
watch Brewer play. The opposing team lets him roam and shoot away. he gets a number of uncontested jumpers a game, is lucky to make 40% of them. I honestly don't give a **** what he did in college, the dude sucks, and will never be more than an average player in the NBA.

Hawkeye15
02-01-2011, 11:51 AM
sorry DRose, you hit a nerve with Brewer. I have not been happy with that pick since day 1, and even if he turns into Michael Jordan after he leaves, I will never be happy with his play for the Wolves. He has been a terrible pick. I will take my 200 NBA games I have watched him play, and my understanding of statistics, over your Florida days when he was on a stacked team against inferior collegiate competition.

D Roses Bulls
02-01-2011, 11:58 AM
sorry DRose, you hit a nerve with Brewer. I have not been happy with that pick since day 1, and even if he turns into Michael Jordan after he leaves, I will never be happy with his play for the Wolves. He has been a terrible pick. I will take my 200 NBA games I have watched him play, and my understanding of statistics, over your Florida days when he was on a stacked team against inferior collegiate competition.

It's cool, but like I said I think he can become something special and I know the college game is different then the pro game, but if he had a shot in college, that always translates to the NBA. you never lose your shot and thats why people like reddick (who I know brewer never was as good of a shooter or am I comparing too) always had a shot and it came with him to the NBA. anyways though, thats ok if your not happy with the pick, but honestly, I wanted him since day one and even though I wanted noah more, I know brewer can become a pretty good player in the right system and with time just like billups needed time in the league before he found his way with the pistons and yeah, thats what two different sets of analysts said, im not lying there and with the way I see minnesota ran when I watch them, I wouldn't doubt what they said.

D Roses Bulls
02-01-2011, 12:00 PM
but yeah hawkeye, convince the wolves to give up brewer for james johnson or cj watson. we'll take him :)

sep11ie
02-01-2011, 12:05 PM
Monta Ellis

Bornknick73
02-01-2011, 12:10 PM
Im surprised no ones mentioned Wilson Chandler. While the trade rumors are surely affecting his play of late he was having a breakout year. 6'8 240 lbs. built like Lebron, quiet guy who works hard, he glides to the rim with ease and now can hit a 3 on a decent basis, can play 3 positions. Decent defender and rebounder.

Im sure once all this Melo business is done he'll get back to form. Now for my non homer picks....

Monroe
Hibbert
Lou Williams
Lawson

Hawkeye15
02-01-2011, 12:15 PM
It's cool, but like I said I think he can become something special and I know the college game is different then the pro game, but if he had a shot in college, that always translates to the NBA. you never lose your shot and thats why people like reddick (who I know brewer never was as good of a shooter or am I comparing too) always had a shot and it came with him to the NBA. anyways though, thats ok if your not happy with the pick, but honestly, I wanted him since day one and even though I wanted noah more, I know brewer can become a pretty good player in the right system and with time just like billups needed time in the league before he found his way with the pistons and yeah, thats what two different sets of analysts said, im not lying there and with the way I see minnesota ran when I watch them, I wouldn't doubt what they said.

he has played for 2 different coach's, that used different systems, and was featured as one of our scoring options last year. Dude, he can not shoot. I just don't care what you saw at Florida. His mechanics are flawed, he has no touch, poor timing, its everything. He melts thru picks due to being so scrawny, and just doesn't make good decisions. These are traits that are not going to change. Brewer has an uphill battle to becoming an average player. Minnesota has used him in every way possible, even TRYING to feature him in their offense. As I said, he literally negates every positive with a negative.
Would you like me trying to debate you, not backing down, about Deng? Do you think I would win that battle? If you want an argument over Brewer, cmon with it. I have 200 games, in the NBA, and knowledge of stats. Let's go.

PREPBALLFAN
02-01-2011, 12:24 PM
Patrick Patterson

WizFan3
02-01-2011, 12:35 PM
j wall trevor booker

D Roses Bulls
02-01-2011, 12:49 PM
he has played for 2 different coach's, that used different systems, and was featured as one of our scoring options last year. Dude, he can not shoot. I just don't care what you saw at Florida. His mechanics are flawed, he has no touch, poor timing, its everything. He melts thru picks due to being so scrawny, and just doesn't make good decisions. These are traits that are not going to change. Brewer has an uphill battle to becoming an average player. Minnesota has used him in every way possible, even TRYING to feature him in their offense. As I said, he literally negates every positive with a negative.
Would you like me trying to debate you, not backing down, about Deng? Do you think I would win that battle? If you want an argument over Brewer, cmon with it. I have 200 games, in the NBA, and knowledge of stats. Let's go.

and that says a lot about the the coaches in minnesota then brewer because of his mechanics. I will admit, brewer was a project coming into the NBA, but if no one works with him, then how is he suppose to improve? I know some of the blame comes on him, but I know he did try working on somethings over the summer in gainesville. again, billups was a journey man until he came into the NBA and look at what he ended up doing. I'm not saying brewer is this awesome shooter, but he can knock down like you said the open jumper which is harder then you think. a change of scenery can do wonders for a player sometimes. maybe if got around someone like derrick rose and a joakim noah, it might influence him more. but ummm what does deng have to do with corey brewer?

Hawkeye15
02-01-2011, 01:05 PM
and that says a lot about the the coaches in minnesota then brewer because of his mechanics. I will admit, brewer was a project coming into the NBA, but if no one works with him, then how is he suppose to improve? I know some of the blame comes on him, but I know he did try working on somethings over the summer in gainesville. again, billups was a journey man until he came into the NBA and look at what he ended up doing. I'm not saying brewer is this awesome shooter, but he can knock down like you said the open jumper which is harder then you think. a change of scenery can do wonders for a player sometimes. maybe if got around someone like derrick rose and a joakim noah, it might influence him more. but ummm what does deng have to do with corey brewer?

he has changed his shot numerous times. He has been given numerous coach's to work with. They are the same ones that helped Love become a 44% three point shooter, and an 88% free throw shooter. Brewer's shot did improve during last season, the Wolves staff credited it to him being shown how to keep balance on his shot. And yet, he is still a poor shooter.
Billups would have been kept by the Wolves in a nanosecond had Terrell Brandon not been so good at the time the Wolves let him walk. He plays a slower, smarter pace. Bad comparison.

He hasn't knocked down the open jumper with enough consistency for anyone to care. The Wolves opponents now let him literally run free, and don't bother worrying about him. They ENCOURAGE the Wolves to throw it to him. When he puts it on the floor, his body is just too fast for his brain to keep up with. He turns the ball over half the time he drives.

Look, Brewer is a fan favorite with that big smile, and energizer bunny effort. But the fact is, that same player who dipped his testicles into Derek Fisher's mouth on that dunk and got everyone pumped, is the same guy who routinely shoots a 20 footer off a curl after just sitting 10 minutes on the bench with 18 seconds on the shotclock, or the one who decides to leave the corner and run a curl when his PG just saw him out of the corner of his eye, and then throws the ball to where Corey used to be, being credited for a turnover Brewer caused, or the guy who goes for a steal at midcourt on Manu with 33 seconds to go up 1, only to fall over and let Manu come down the pipe and get an and-1 to wrap up another loss, etc, etc, etc.

Brewer, statistically, was the worst starter in the NBA last season who got minutes. His defense is overrated, and he is simply a situational defender who can get out and run. Guys like Ray Allen, Kevin Martin, ie, shooters that use a high amount of picks, KILLLLLLLLLLLLL him for career games. Brewer can't guard players like that because he melts on contact. When you play Pierce, Beasley, those types, he is now useful. Unfortunately, he has become situational.

If there is good news though, Flynn is slowly replacing him as my personal whipping boy on GT's...

Gram
02-01-2011, 01:13 PM
Jrue Holliday, Arron Afflalo, Roddy Buckets, Eric Bledsoe.

Homer picks: Daye and Monroe.

albertc86
02-01-2011, 01:16 PM
Nick Young shows promise if he continues to improve.

D Roses Bulls
02-01-2011, 01:26 PM
he has changed his shot numerous times. He has been given numerous coach's to work with. They are the same ones that helped Love become a 44% three point shooter, and an 88% free throw shooter. Brewer's shot did improve during last season, the Wolves staff credited it to him being shown how to keep balance on his shot. And yet, he is still a poor shooter.
Billups would have been kept by the Wolves in a nanosecond had Terrell Brandon not been so good at the time the Wolves let him walk. He plays a slower, smarter pace. Bad comparison.

He hasn't knocked down the open jumper with enough consistency for anyone to care. The Wolves opponents now let him literally run free, and don't bother worrying about him. They ENCOURAGE the Wolves to throw it to him. When he puts it on the floor, his body is just too fast for his brain to keep up with. He turns the ball over half the time he drives.

Look, Brewer is a fan favorite with that big smile, and energizer bunny effort. But the fact is, that same player who dipped his testicles into Derek Fisher's mouth on that dunk and got everyone pumped, is the same guy who routinely shoots a 20 footer off a curl after just sitting 10 minutes on the bench with 18 seconds on the shotclock, or the one who decides to leave the corner and run a curl when his PG just saw him out of the corner of his eye, and then throws the ball to where Corey used to be, being credited for a turnover Brewer caused, or the guy who goes for a steal at midcourt on Manu with 33 seconds to go up 1, only to fall over and let Manu come down the pipe and get an and-1 to wrap up another loss, etc, etc, etc.

Brewer, statistically, was the worst starter in the NBA last season who got minutes. His defense is overrated, and he is simply a situational defender who can get out and run. Guys like Ray Allen, Kevin Martin, ie, shooters that use a high amount of picks, KILLLLLLLLLLLLL him for career games. Brewer can't guard players like that because he melts on contact. When you play Pierce, Beasley, those types, he is now useful. Unfortunately, he has become situational.

If there is good news though, Flynn is slowly replacing him as my personal whipping boy on GT's...

5 teams gave up on billups till he became established and im not comparing billups and brewer, all im saying is it took him 5 teams and 5 years till he became established. some p layers dont get it right away. and hawkeye, it really is worthless to try and argue statistics with me. I dont care if he was the worst starter in history statistically. I'm pretty confident in what I see in him that he can become a pretty good player in the NBA, not average, but a above average player. anyways we can keep going in circles on this, only time will tell how well he will become. I just hope he can get out of minnesota soon.

THE GIPPER
02-01-2011, 01:37 PM
Cousins, Favors, Davis, Derozan, Lawson and Evan Turner. Havent seen enough of Monroe to comment on him.

hgtiger32
02-01-2011, 01:39 PM
larry sanders of the bucks. kid is raw. and i mean raw. great shot blocker, can hopefully develop into a good rebounder and has a decent jumper. but he is soooo RAW.

Hawkeye15
02-01-2011, 01:48 PM
5 teams gave up on billups till he became established and im not comparing billups and brewer, all im saying is it took him 5 teams and 5 years till he became established. some p layers dont get it right away. and hawkeye, it really is worthless to try and argue statistics with me. I dont care if he was the worst starter in history statistically. I'm pretty confident in what I see in him that he can become a pretty good player in the NBA, not average, but a above average player. anyways we can keep going in circles on this, only time will tell how well he will become. I just hope he can get out of minnesota soon.

wouldn't bother me in the slightest.

sep11ie
02-01-2011, 01:49 PM
Monta Ellis

JayTee1981
02-01-2011, 02:16 PM
He played 2 games in the d-league coming off of foot surgery. Kept him out of action for most of the season. I wouldn't say he'll become a star though. Way too early for me. He's only played a handful of games.

The most talented young player on the Spurs, imo, is George Hill. Long arms so he plays taller than he is, plays passing lanes pretty well, and is a very good all around scorer. Corner threes, good in between game, finishes at the basket and is athletic enough to dunk at 6'2" (though his 6'9" wing span helps with that too). Even then though, I'm not sure if he'll become a star.

George Hill is a good player but with Parker here its hard for him to run the offense night in and night out I wanted the Spurs to trade Parker so Hill can finally display his game on a more consistent basis

Sox72
02-01-2011, 02:25 PM
5 teams gave up on billups till he became established and im not comparing billups and brewer, all im saying is it took him 5 teams and 5 years till he became established. some p layers dont get it right away. and hawkeye, it really is worthless to try and argue statistics with me. I dont care if he was the worst starter in history statistically. I'm pretty confident in what I see in him that he can become a pretty good player in the NBA, not average, but a above average player. anyways we can keep going in circles on this, only time will tell how well he will become. I just hope he can get out of minnesota soon.

It's worthless to argue with Hawkeye period. His arrogance doesn't allow him to have a legit conversation.

Giraffes Rule
02-01-2011, 02:28 PM
It's worthless to argue with Hawkeye period. His arrogance doesn't allow him to have a legit conversation.

It's not arrogance when you back it up... Or, you know, actually know what you're talking about.


George Hill is a good player but with Parker here its hard for him to run the offense night in and night out I wanted the Spurs to trade Parker so Hill can finally display his game on a more consistent basis

Eh, Hill isn't really ready to run the offense. He's not a true point guard, and while he's an above average passer at the 2 spot he's not a play maker like Tony or Manu, yet. Him being Pop's favorite makes me very optimistic though.

Sox72
02-01-2011, 02:33 PM
It's not arrogance when you back it up... Or, you know, actually know what you're talking about.



Eh, Hill isn't really ready to run the offense. He's not a true point guard, and while he's an above average passer at the 2 spot he's not a play maker like Tony or Manu, yet. Him being Pop's favorite makes me very optimistic though.

I agree, Little Ginger. But, unfortunately, his arrogance tends to hurt some of his legit arguments.

mp3
02-01-2011, 02:38 PM
paul george

redwings4lyfe
02-01-2011, 02:48 PM
derozan and cousins

Maroboy925
02-01-2011, 02:56 PM
I agree with most names on this list....im going to be a homer here and give some love to my team. Im going with epke udoh , monta ellis and steph curry.

Hawkeye15
02-01-2011, 04:19 PM
I agree, Little Ginger. But, unfortunately, his arrogance tends to hurt some of his legit arguments.

I am arrogant? How so?

alencp3
02-01-2011, 04:20 PM
Paul George, James Harden and Ed Davis.

alencp3
02-01-2011, 04:21 PM
Greg Oden too

Swashcuff
02-01-2011, 04:25 PM
I am arrogant? How so?

What? I would also like to know how. :confused:

masalex1205
02-01-2011, 04:46 PM
DJ Augustin is starting to kill it, teams are starting to gameplan for him

Ray_R
02-01-2011, 04:56 PM
I'm going to go out on a limb and say Blake Griffin.:D

Yunqn
02-01-2011, 05:13 PM
A lot of you guys are naming bums..

To me easily its demar derozan..

In a fan base like toronto.. Although the living isn't so great.. They do have a big market and I could see demar being pushed into stardom fast like carter,mcgrady and bosh.. All it takes for him is to develop a jumpshot and his team has to win..

He's already known for his dunking and has noone ahead of him.. I can really see demar being next up..

Sayin austin daye is a fail.. And demarcus cousin is a rookie so u can't say him because wall would be ahead of him.. As far as known players I could say lamarcus aldridge.. The franchise is about to be built around him.. His numbers will soar soon

alencp3
02-01-2011, 06:09 PM
I'm going to go out on a limb and say Blake Griffin.:D

Thats a big of a risk, why not go with the sure thing Timofey?

flclfanman
02-01-2011, 06:22 PM
Chris Douglas-Roberts