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Swashcuff
01-30-2011, 08:19 PM
Who will be the next player to average a FG% of 50 or better a 3FG% of 40 or better and a FT% of 90 or better. It has been done 11 times in the past and Steve Nash is in all likeliness going to do so again this season for a record setting 6th time. It has been done by 7 different players before who do you guys think will be the 8th?

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&type=totals&per_minute_base=36&lg_id=NBA&is_playoffs=N&year_min=1947&year_max=2011&franch_id=&season_start=1&season_end=-1&age_min=0&age_max=99&height_min=0&height_max=99&birth_country_is=Y&birth_country=&is_active=&is_hof=&pos=&qual=&c1stat=fg3_pct&c1comp=gt&c1val=.40&c2stat=ft_pct&c2comp=gt&c2val=.90&c3stat=fg_pct&c3comp=gt&c3val=.50&c4stat=g&c4comp=gt&c4val=40&c5stat=&c5comp=gt&c6mult=1.0&c6stat=&order_by=pts_per_g

^ That's a list of the guys who have done it in the past.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&type=totals&per_minute_base=36&lg_id=NBA&is_playoffs=N&year_min=2010&year_max=2011&franch_id=&season_start=1&season_end=-1&age_min=0&age_max=99&height_min=0&height_max=99&birth_country_is=Y&birth_country=&is_active=&is_hof=&pos=&qual=&c1stat=fg3_pct&c1comp=gt&c1val=.40&c2stat=ft_pct&c2comp=gt&c2val=.85&c3stat=fg_pct&c3comp=gt&c3val=.45&c4stat=g&c4comp=gt&c4val=40&c5stat=&c5comp=gt&c6mult=1.0&c6stat=&order_by=pts_per_g

^ With the exclusion of Dirk and Nash there is a list of guys who have come close/ are close to accomplishing this feat over the past two seasons.

Chris Paul has a really good shot at it this season and just based on that is the most realistic option.

Kevin Love, Arron Afflao, Ray Allen and Stephen Curry also stand a good chance at getting there in the not too distant future.

Who do you guys think will be the next to do it?

210Don
01-30-2011, 08:21 PM
Gary Neal.

Gators123
01-30-2011, 08:22 PM
Cp3

-Kobe24-TJ19-
01-30-2011, 08:22 PM
Steph Curry

ManRam
01-30-2011, 08:24 PM
I don't know. Love could do it. I doubt Curry ever gets to 50% from the field...

It's so crazy to me how close Jameer came to doing it in 09...

He shot 50.3%, 45.3% and 88.7%...

So close! He'll never, obviously, replicate that again. (He did benefit from playing half the season ;) )It's such an elite class.

drew_ellis_23
01-30-2011, 08:34 PM
Ray Allen, I think he is already doing it.

Jays101
01-30-2011, 08:37 PM
andrea bargnani...

ManRam
01-30-2011, 08:43 PM
Ray won't get that FT% above 90%.

And Jays101...you are joking, right? He isn't even close in any of the three categories...for this season or his career.

MG3
01-30-2011, 08:44 PM
Nash again next year

Korman12
01-30-2011, 08:49 PM
God Larry Bird was good.

Swashcuff
01-30-2011, 08:49 PM
Nash again next year

You must misunderstand the question being asked.

dtmagnet
01-30-2011, 08:51 PM
Chris Paul seems like he could do it.

Minimal
01-30-2011, 08:51 PM
Chris Paul Obviously

Swashcuff
01-30-2011, 08:53 PM
Ray won't get that FT% above 90%.

And Jays101...you are joking, right? He isn't even close in any of the three categories...for this season or his career.

Agreed.

Afflalo has a more realistic shot but even he may find it hard to get his FT% above 90%.

momoneyyyy
01-30-2011, 08:56 PM
stephen curry will do it!

arosen36
01-30-2011, 08:56 PM
the big shamrock

StriveGreatness
01-30-2011, 08:58 PM
Arron Afflalo

Flash3
01-30-2011, 09:01 PM
i look at that list full of greats then calderon pops up lol

Lim
01-30-2011, 09:14 PM
damn steve nash is a fkin boss

Raph12
01-30-2011, 09:36 PM
There will be more, give it time...

dhopisthename
01-30-2011, 10:13 PM
I think Kevin durant might be able to do it

SpeeMN
01-30-2011, 10:20 PM
Kevin Love can easily get the 50%fg and 40%3pt but he'd have to have one hell of a year to get 90%ft, still not out of the question.

Baller1
01-30-2011, 10:22 PM
Durant.

Mplsman
01-30-2011, 10:22 PM
Kevin Love is very close to this.

Hawkeye15
01-30-2011, 10:22 PM
Curry and Love.

Nash is the best shooter of all time. This is just another example

RapOZo
01-30-2011, 10:51 PM
I think Nash shooting skills are being overshadow by his passing abilities.
every time you think of Nash you picture assists, but those shooting stats are something to talk about more often, amazing

jmtapia
01-30-2011, 10:55 PM
Curry

SugeKnight
01-30-2011, 11:03 PM
curry gets it this year. book it

ManRam
01-30-2011, 11:09 PM
curry gets it this year. book it

There is absolutely zero chance he gets his FG% up to 50%.

If I knew you, I'd bet my life's worth on this not happening.

Pat Thetic
01-30-2011, 11:13 PM
Durant

White_Mike
01-30-2011, 11:15 PM
Danilo Gallinari could probably do it in his prime.

TO Rapz
01-30-2011, 11:19 PM
Calderon :cool:

TO Rapz
01-30-2011, 11:19 PM
no but seriously though, i love how everyone is just naming their favourite player on their team.

Gram
01-30-2011, 11:23 PM
Afflalo just cuz I love him. lol.

SluggeR
01-30-2011, 11:26 PM
CP3/Landry Fields/Stephen Curry

flclfanman
01-30-2011, 11:29 PM
Jesus Shuttlesworth

Swashcuff
01-30-2011, 11:32 PM
CP3/Landry Fields/Stephen Curry

:confused:

You are kidding right?

SirDJ
01-30-2011, 11:35 PM
I see CP3 and Curry doin it

believeinNYK
01-30-2011, 11:37 PM
Cp3 has the best chance

Hawkeye15
01-30-2011, 11:37 PM
Love is at 47/44.5/88. Not sure why he doesn't have more votes.

Giraffes Rule
01-30-2011, 11:42 PM
If Love ever plays on a really good team I think he could do it.

Swashcuff
01-30-2011, 11:42 PM
Love is at 47/44.5/88. Not sure why he doesn't have more votes.

He is gaining steam, but Curry just blew past CP3

In fairness to other voters however this is Love's first season of shooting this well from the 3. He's good but he isn't as good a shooter as say Steph Curry or some of the others have proven to be. Some may be a bit hesitant to choose him based on his shooting #s in just half this season.

Hawkeye15
01-31-2011, 12:08 AM
He is gaining steam, but Curry just blew past CP3

In fairness to other voters however this is Love's first season of shooting this well from the 3. He's good but he isn't as good a shooter as say Steph Curry or some of the others have proven to be. Some may be a bit hesitant to choose him based on his shooting #s in just half this season.

for sure. Love never shoots contested 3's, so his percentage, while amazing, doesn't quantify him as a top 3 pt shooter. But for what he does in other departments, who would care what contingency his 3's come on? And I still think he could have a 50/40/90 season best case.

thekmp211
01-31-2011, 12:27 AM
ill take love or curry. love would knocking on the door if he could score at a better clip from the field.

THE GIPPER
01-31-2011, 01:02 AM
Durant.

Well he's got alot of work to do cuz as of right now he doesnt qualify for any of the three.(46,33,88)

John Walls Era
01-31-2011, 01:02 AM
i look at that list full of greats then calderon pops up lol

Greatest FT shooter of all time :cool:

THE GIPPER
01-31-2011, 01:09 AM
Really this thread just proves how good steve nash is and how good larry bird was.

iFYouSeekAmy
01-31-2011, 02:01 AM
Anthony Morrow is the best shooter in the NBA.

5ass
01-31-2011, 02:22 AM
if love does that and grabs 16 rebounds and scores 22 points per game he should be MVP, if not atleast come very close
MVP has always been all about stats imo.. im not saying hes the best in the nba but those are incredible stats

beasted86
01-31-2011, 02:32 AM
Rajon Rondo

SluggeR
01-31-2011, 02:44 AM
:confused:

You are kidding right?

Are you kidding? Check out his numbers as a rookie. What would help him is that he's a role player and will get open looks at the 3's. Hell, he aint that far off from doing it now.

djeller1139
01-31-2011, 02:56 AM
Stephen Curry...sure, that's a homer pick, but he is one of the best pure shooters out there.

AIRMAR72
01-31-2011, 03:01 AM
kevin durant have those ability he just need to mature

jetsfan28
01-31-2011, 03:04 AM
Curry's next IMO. He might even do it next year.

On a side note, Luke Ridinour is frighteningly close this year. He's shooting 47%. Highly doubtful he gets that up to 50, but if he does, that would be a huge black mark on the club.

shep33
01-31-2011, 03:07 AM
Shaq

dodie53
01-31-2011, 03:42 AM
nash is the 50-40-90 god

YoungOne
01-31-2011, 04:08 AM
I want afflalo on the celtics when ray is retired :)

YoungOne
01-31-2011, 04:11 AM
Greatest FT shooter of all time :cool:

for one season :D

Antipod
01-31-2011, 04:24 AM
Seeing Calderon in that list...just wow. AND Nash doing it repeatable, that`s why he was the MVP twice :)

PraiseJesus
01-31-2011, 05:02 AM
I think that this is a dumb question because it obviously favors players who take more mid range jumpers and layups rather than players who take a lot of 3s.

For instance, Curry made 166 3s in his rookie season while shooting 43%, that automatically brings down his FG% below 50%.

Nash only made more 3s than that 1 year of his entire career. Kevin Love also doesnt take many 3s.

Most people know my feelings that Steph Curry is the best player in the NBA and has a chance to be the best of all time.

Not a Warriors fan, just a fan of greatness

Mr.ATLHawks
01-31-2011, 05:14 AM
Ray Allen, I think he is already doing it.

This...he is doing it

Swashcuff
01-31-2011, 08:07 AM
This...he is doing it

No he's not, did you click on the link. He's gonna have a steep hill to climb if he's going to get his FT% up to around 90%. Not impossible but very unlikely.

Swashcuff
01-31-2011, 08:11 AM
if love does that and grabs 16 rebounds and scores 22 points per game he should be MVP, if not atleast come very close
MVP has always been all about stats imo.. im not saying hes the best in the nba but those are incredible stats

:no:

If that were the case LeBron would have more than just two and KG would have more than just 1 as well. MVP has very little to do with stats but in fact the impact the player has whilst putting up said stats.

Swashcuff
01-31-2011, 08:16 AM
Are you kidding? Check out his numbers as a rookie. What would help him is that he's a role player and will get open looks at the 3's. Hell, he aint that far off from doing it now.

Dud there is no chance in HELL Landry Feilds get's his FT% up above 90. He is having a stellar season but no one in there right minds who knows anything about basketball (even the smart Knicks fans) would mention his name among the best shooters not only in the league today but of all time. He is VERY far from doing it now.

There are at least 25 other players in the NBA who has a shot ahead of Landry. That's just going off the top of my head you don't want me to start quoting stats and making a sound enough case for each one of them.

Stop overrating the guy its getting ridiculous. He's having a stellar season and scoring his point very efficiently but he is NOT a great shooter and that is what you have to be in order to accomplish such a feat. Did you see the names do you honestly believe that he is good enough to one day be considered as one of the best shooters of all time. C'mon dude stop shaming yourself and your fan base and be realistic.

Khalifa21
01-31-2011, 08:18 AM
Chris Paul

Swashcuff
01-31-2011, 08:25 AM
I think that this is a dumb question because it obviously favors players who take more mid range jumpers and layups rather than players who take a lot of 3s.

For instance, Curry made 166 3s in his rookie season while shooting 43%, that automatically brings down his FG% below 50%.

Nash only made more 3s than that 1 year of his entire career. Kevin Love also doesnt take many 3s.

Most people know my feelings that Steph Curry is the best player in the NBA and has a chance to be the best of all time.

Not a Warriors fan, just a fan of greatness

What I know is that you purposely do stuff like this to infuriate all the posters on here. I know that you know to yourself that you are in no way serious because if that is the Case I will be lead to believe that you're either obsessed with Curry in a attraction kind of way or just clinically sick.

How in the hell is this a dumb question? A great shooter is a great shooter regardless. Ray Allen is on his way to being the all time leaders in 3FG made he takes a volume of 3s. Anything that doesn't favour Curry's skill set is dumb for you. Didn't you see who is running away with the poll. You do know that the best shooters don't have to and usually don't shoot a high volume of 3s right.

Raidaz4Life
01-31-2011, 08:39 AM
Kevin Love

Skizzik
01-31-2011, 09:24 AM
In his rookie season, Roddy B was the first rookie ever to have a 50/40/80 season. Obviously, he needs to work on his free throws some, but the Mavs are a team that puts a lot of extra effort in to free throws (normally one of the top two teams in the league in percentage), ignoring the fun fact that we'd rather take jump shots than drive and get fouled. I wouldn't put him as the favorite, but certainly worth noting.

Hawkeye15
01-31-2011, 09:28 AM
I think that this is a dumb question because it obviously favors players who take more mid range jumpers and layups rather than players who take a lot of 3s.

For instance, Curry made 166 3s in his rookie season while shooting 43%, that automatically brings down his FG% below 50%.

Nash only made more 3s than that 1 year of his entire career. Kevin Love also doesnt take many 3s.

Most people know my feelings that Steph Curry is the best player in the NBA and has a chance to be the best of all time.

Not a Warriors fan, just a fan of greatness

dude, what is it with you and Curry? Best player in the NBA? Seriously?

But I do agree, Curry seems to have a chance in his career of at 50/40/90 season.

Hawkeye15
01-31-2011, 09:28 AM
In his rookie season, Roddy B was the first rookie ever to have a 50/40/80 season. Obviously, he needs to work on his free throws some, but the Mavs are a team that puts a lot of extra effort in to free throws (normally one of the top two teams in the league in percentage), ignoring the fun fact that we'd rather take jump shots than drive and get fouled. I wouldn't put him as the favorite, but certainly worth noting.

noted, for sure dude.

avrpatsfan
01-31-2011, 09:30 AM
Steph Curry or Ray Allen. Allen could do it this season if he improved his FT percentage.

sf-fanatic
01-31-2011, 01:55 PM
Love is at 47/44.5/88. Not sure why he doesn't have more votes.

I honestly think Love's three point percentage is a fluke, but I'll give credit if he is able to replicate it again next year since he did improve his 3pt and ft% each year in the league so far so theres a good chance.

sf-fanatic
01-31-2011, 02:00 PM
I think that this is a dumb question because it obviously favors players who take more mid range jumpers and layups rather than players who take a lot of 3s.

For instance, Curry made 166 3s in his rookie season while shooting 43%, that automatically brings down his FG% below 50%.

Nash only made more 3s than that 1 year of his entire career. Kevin Love also doesnt take many 3s.

Most people know my feelings that Steph Curry is the best player in the NBA and has a chance to be the best of all time.

Not a Warriors fan, just a fan of greatness

As a warrior fan, that would be great !

dwadefan03
01-31-2011, 02:15 PM
i think danilo gallinari could do it

cantstopthee
01-31-2011, 02:20 PM
Nash will again.

Sly Guy
01-31-2011, 02:41 PM
I'm not sure any of that list will, but the guy who's got the best chance is probably steph curry.

LAKERS 24/7
01-31-2011, 03:06 PM
kevin durant had the capability if he becomes a little more efficient

Niro
01-31-2011, 04:49 PM
homer pick steph curry

PraiseJesus
01-31-2011, 04:49 PM
What I know is that you purposely do stuff like this to infuriate all the posters on here. I know that you know to yourself that you are in no way serious because if that is the Case I will be lead to believe that you're either obsessed with Curry in a attraction kind of way or just clinically sick.

How in the hell is this a dumb question? A great shooter is a great shooter regardless. Ray Allen is on his way to being the all time leaders in 3FG made he takes a volume of 3s. Anything that doesn't favour Curry's skill set is dumb for you. Didn't you see who is running away with the poll. You do know that the best shooters don't have to and usually don't shoot a high volume of 3s right.

What a bunch of nonsense.

Right now the only PG with better average stats than Curry this year is Chris Paul. I think that Curry would have better ones if he didn't have to share time with ball hog Allen Iverson, I mean Monta Ellis

Swashcuff
01-31-2011, 04:55 PM
What a bunch of nonsense.

Right now the only PG with better average stats than Curry this year is Chris Paul. I think that Curry would have better ones if he didn't have to share time with ball hog Allen Iverson, I mean Monta Ellis

Please indicate to me what stats you are talking about. Since you ride Curry's dick so much you must know each and every one of them. Please I would LOVE to know what stats he trumps, Rose, Westbrook, Rondo, Nash, Parker, Williams in. Please.

Since he's so great as you say potentially the best player in the NBA shouldn't it matter not who he's playing alongside? Shouldn't the Warriors be in contention for a championship? After all he is the point guard shouldn't he lead the team to victories every single night. You are so foolish it isn't even funny.

Yanks All Day
01-31-2011, 05:12 PM
JJ Redick is 46% from the field, 42% from 3, and 88% from the stripe. He could certainly do it with more play time and more shots.

Hawkeye15
01-31-2011, 05:20 PM
What a bunch of nonsense.

Right now the only PG with better average stats than Curry this year is Chris Paul. I think that Curry would have better ones if he didn't have to share time with ball hog Allen Iverson, I mean Monta Ellis

what stats are you talking about?

PraiseJesus
01-31-2011, 07:29 PM
Please indicate to me what stats you are talking about. Since you ride Curry's dick so much you must know each and every one of them. Please I would LOVE to know what stats he trumps, Rose, Westbrook, Rondo, Nash, Parker, Williams in. Please.

Since he's so great as you say potentially the best player in the NBA shouldn't it matter not who he's playing alongside? Shouldn't the Warriors be in contention for a championship? After all he is the point guard shouldn't he lead the team to victories every single night. You are so foolish it isn't even funny.


what stats are you talking about?

Curry:
FG% 47.5%
FT% 93.6%
3PT%: 42.1%
3PT PER GAME: 1.9
PTS: 19.1
REB: 3.6
AST: 5.9
STLS: 1.9
TO: 2.9

in only 33 minutes per game playing with ball hog Monta.


Altogether he is #5 in the NBA overall for average stats in Fantasy leagues. The only PG with better average stats is Chris Paul. But I think Curry would be #1 if he got more minutes and more usage time.

He is doing all of this as a 2nd year player on a team that is pretty darn bad.

So to answer your questions, I am talking about ALL of his stats. Then when you include intagibles such as leadership and character.... Curry is, in my opinion, a top 2 or 3 player in the NBA. Him, Durant, and Chris Paul are the best.

Swashcuff
01-31-2011, 07:43 PM
Curry:
FG% 47.5%
FT% 93.6%
3PT%: 42.1%
3PT PER GAME: 1.9
PTS: 19.1
REB: 3.6
AST: 5.9
STLS: 1.9
TO: 2.9

in only 33 minutes per game playing with ball hog Monta.


Altogether he is #5 in the NBA overall for average stats in Fantasy leagues. The only PG with better average stats is Chris Paul. But I think Curry would be #1 if he got more minutes and more usage time.

He is doing all of this as a 2nd year player on a team that is pretty darn bad.

So to answer your questions, I am talking about ALL of his stats. Then when you include intagibles such as leadership and character.... Curry is, in my opinion, a top 2 or 3 player in the NBA. Him, Durant, and Chris Paul are the best.

I don't actually blast posters like this often but you are hands down the most delusional posters in the history of PSD.

What in the world makes him a top 3 player. Do you actually watch the damn game?

Do you even understand what stats mean?

A top 3 player ESPECIALLY a PG would make those damn bad players much better. That is what great players do.

In case you don't realize we are talking about the real world not fantasy leagues. Look at some damn basketball before coming here and spewing utter nonsense.

The only one of those statistics that he leads all other PGs (excluding Mario Chalmbers) in is FT% other than that he is no where near the league leaders. Why not talk about LeBron's, Wade's, Kobe's, Rose's, Nowitzki's hell at least 30 other players in the league's leadership and intagibles before talking about Curry's own. You are even more biased and assandhu :facepalm:

How could a player who is 26th in the league in PER be the best player in the league?

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&type=totals&per_minute_base=36&lg_id=NBA&is_playoffs=N&year_min=2011&year_max=2011&franch_id=&season_start=1&season_end=-1&age_min=0&age_max=99&height_min=0&height_max=99&birth_country_is=Y&birth_country=&is_active=&is_hof=&pos=&qual=&c1stat=g&c1comp=gt&c1val=30&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&c5stat=&c5comp=gt&c6mult=1.0&c6stat=&order_by=per

What has he proven to be crowned the best player in the league. Hell even top 3?

Are you on drugs?

Da Knicks
01-31-2011, 07:50 PM
danilo gallinari

PraiseJesus
01-31-2011, 07:51 PM
I don't actually blast posters like this often but you are hands down the most delusional posters in the history of PSD.

What in the world makes him a top 3 player. Do you actually watch the damn game?

Do you even understand what stats mean?

A top 3 player ESPECIALLY a PG would make those damn bad players much better. That is what great players do.

In case you don't realize we are talking about the real world not fantasy leagues. Look at some damn basketball before coming here and spewing utter nonsense.

The only one of those statistics that he leads all other PGs (excluding Mario Chalmbers) in is FT% other than that he is no where near the league leaders. Why not talk about LeBron's, Wade's, Kobe's, Rose's, Nowitzki's hell at least 30 other players in the league's leadership and intagibles before talking about Curry's own. You are even more biased and assandhu :facepalm:

How could a player who is 26th in the league in PER be the best player in the league?

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&type=totals&per_minute_base=36&lg_id=NBA&is_playoffs=N&year_min=2011&year_max=2011&franch_id=&season_start=1&season_end=-1&age_min=0&age_max=99&height_min=0&height_max=99&birth_country_is=Y&birth_country=&is_active=&is_hof=&pos=&qual=&c1stat=g&c1comp=gt&c1val=30&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&c5stat=&c5comp=gt&c6mult=1.0&c6stat=&order_by=per

What has he proven to be crowned the best player in the league. Hell even top 3?

Are you on drugs?

Curry is on a team with the biggest ball hog and selfish player in the league Monta. The fact he get the stats he does is remarkable.

I know basketball son. I have watched almost every game Kobe has ever played in the NBA. I knew he was going to be great and he was not very good as a rookie.

I know for a fact that Curry will be better than Kobe. He just needs to be given control of the team and close to 40 mins per game. He will lead the Warriors to the playoffs

ManRam
01-31-2011, 07:51 PM
He's talking fantasy...I hope. Which doesn't matter at all.

Curry is a good offensive player, for sure. A great shooter. But outside the fantasy realm, there is this little thing called defense that he fails at miserably. That's why he's not considered a top 20 real life player...and shouldn't be. Defense is half the game.



And as for JJ doing it...I think his FG% could improve. Aside from threes, he does take a lot of high percentage shots. I don't think he can ever get to 50%...that's just so hard for a guard who shoots so much...but who knows.

PraiseJesus
01-31-2011, 07:53 PM
He's talking fantasy...I hope. Which doesn't matter at all.

Curry is a good offensive player, for sure. A great shooter. But outside the fantasy realm, there is this little thing called defense that he fails at miserably. That's why he's not considered a top 20 real life player...and shouldn't be. Defense is half the game.



And as for JJ doing it...I think his FG% could improve. Aside from threes, he does take a lot of high percentage shots. I don't think he can ever get to 50%...that's just so hard for a guard who shoots so much...but who knows.

Curry is an underrated defensive player. He is still growing into his prime body anyways. Look at Dfish as a rookie then him now. Curry will add some muscle and be an even better defender.

As I said though, he is underrated defensively

ManRam
01-31-2011, 08:02 PM
Curry is an underrated defensive player. He is still growing into his prime body anyways. Look at Dfish as a rookie then him now. Curry will add some muscle and be an even better defender.

As I said though, he is underrated defensively

I don't buy it. Some of it may be the system, but I've never seen an ounce of defense from him. Even if he's underrated, no way does he get passed the level of being just an okay defender...


And you are really being hard on Monta here. If you've seen him play this year, you'd realize how much more unselfish he is, and how much he is making that next extra pass. Still selfish, yes...selfish to the point where it hurts Curry, no. If anything, having a player who dominates the ball like Monta will HELP your percentages (which is what we're talking about) not hurt them. It will hurt the counting stats, but counting stats are for dummies.

Swashcuff
01-31-2011, 08:02 PM
Curry is on a team with the biggest ball hog and selfish player in the league Monta. The fact he get the stats he does is remarkable.

I know basketball son. I have watched almost every game Kobe has ever played in the NBA. I knew he was going to be great and he was not very good as a rookie.

I know for a fact that Curry will be better than Kobe. He just needs to be given control of the team and close to 40 mins per game. He will lead the Warriors to the playoffs

Kobe was one of the biggest "ball hogs" in the league and yet still Pau Gasol is able to average a double double and Shaq was still able to average close to 30 points per game. Dwyane Wade and LeBron James are huge "ball hogs" but for some reason there are able to co-exist and be effective.

Curry's usage% this season is higher than Nash's have ever been at any time in his entire career, but at this point in Curry career he is not better than a prime Steve Nash. What is your point?

Understand this. No matter who you play alongside no matter how much they hog the ball. Greatness is GREATNESS!!!! It doesn't matter who is on the court with you you will have a tremendous impact regardless. A great leader will ensure that. He has loads of potential but he'll never be a better PG than Steve Nash better scorer yes indeed but he'll never have the type of impact that players such as CP3, Rose and Williams have had on the league. You are being beyond ridiculous.

Swashcuff
01-31-2011, 08:04 PM
I don't buy it. Some of it may be the system, but I've never seen an ounce of defense from him. Even if he's underrated, no way does he get passed the level of being just an okay defender...


And you are really being hard on Monta here. If you've seen him play this year, you'd realize how much more unselfish he is, and how much he is making that next extra pass. Still selfish, yes...selfish to the point where it hurts Curry, no. If anything, having a player who dominates the ball like Monta will HELP your percentages (which is what we're talking about) not hurt them. It will hurt the counting stats, but counting stats are for dummies.

Exactly!

More-Than-Most
01-31-2011, 08:05 PM
Curry is on a team with the biggest ball hog and selfish player in the league Monta. The fact he get the stats he does is remarkable.

I know basketball son. I have watched almost every game Kobe has ever played in the NBA. I knew he was going to be great and he was not very good as a rookie.

I know for a fact that Curry will be better than Kobe. He just needs to be given control of the team and close to 40 mins per game. He will lead the Warriors to the playoffs

:facepalm: wow. What Makes you know for a fact that to be true?

nightBULL
01-31-2011, 08:28 PM
Curry is, in my opinion, a top 2 or 3 player in the NBA. Him, Durant, and Chris Paul are the best.

You're delusional. I can name 10 better players off the top of my head.


Steph can ball, but top 2-3 player in the league??? Come on man, thats just stupid.

The Warriors would have a better record if this was true.

Hawkeye15
01-31-2011, 09:04 PM
Curry:
FG% 47.5%
FT% 93.6%
3PT%: 42.1%
3PT PER GAME: 1.9
PTS: 19.1
REB: 3.6
AST: 5.9
STLS: 1.9
TO: 2.9

in only 33 minutes per game playing with ball hog Monta.


Altogether he is #5 in the NBA overall for average stats in Fantasy leagues. The only PG with better average stats is Chris Paul. But I think Curry would be #1 if he got more minutes and more usage time.

He is doing all of this as a 2nd year player on a team that is pretty darn bad.

So to answer your questions, I am talking about ALL of his stats. Then when you include intagibles such as leadership and character.... Curry is, in my opinion, a top 2 or 3 player in the NBA. Him, Durant, and Chris Paul are the best.

that's right, I forgot about you. Your knowledge of stats comes from per game averages, which don't factor pace, and from fantasy.

There are a number ahead of him at PG in real stats. Not to mention there is the whole other side of the floor to factor in.

Bucsfan
01-31-2011, 09:30 PM
fesenko ftw

PraiseJesus
01-31-2011, 09:49 PM
Kobe was one of the biggest "ball hogs" in the league and yet still Pau Gasol is able to average a double double and Shaq was still able to average close to 30 points per game. Dwyane Wade and LeBron James are huge "ball hogs" but for some reason there are able to co-exist and be effective.

Curry's usage% this season is higher than Nash's have ever been at any time in his entire career, but at this point in Curry career he is not better than a prime Steve Nash. What is your point?

Understand this. No matter who you play alongside no matter how much they hog the ball. Greatness is GREATNESS!!!! It doesn't matter who is on the court with you you will have a tremendous impact regardless. A great leader will ensure that. He has loads of potential but he'll never be a better PG than Steve Nash better scorer yes indeed but he'll never have the type of impact that players such as CP3, Rose and Williams have had on the league. You are being beyond ridiculous.

You are just another guy that watches too many ESPN highlights and sports talk radio.

There is a difference between being the face of a franchise and just a role player. Right now Curry is not a franchise player because Monta will not let him have that title. Last year Stephen Jackson did the same thing and once he left Curry started getting more touches.

You can't teach leadership. It is something that people have or don't have. YOu also can't teach any other intangibles.

Curry has it all.

IversonIsKrazy
01-31-2011, 09:52 PM
Other than Nash, I see Curry doing it. Hes over 40% from 3 and over 90% from the line this season and career. And almost at 50%FG, at 46% it isn't too much of a stretch for him.

PraiseJesus
01-31-2011, 09:53 PM
Other than Nash, I see Curry doing it. Hes over 40% from 3 and over 90% from the line this season and career. And almost at 50%FG, at 46% it isn't too much of a stretch for him.

If he took less 3 pointer he would do it every year.

How can no one understand that?

Hawkeye15
01-31-2011, 09:57 PM
You are just another guy that watches too many ESPN highlights and sports talk radio.

There is a difference between being the face of a franchise and just a role player. Right now Curry is not a franchise player because Monta will not let him have that title. Last year Stephen Jackson did the same thing and once he left Curry started getting more touches.

You can't teach leadership. It is something that people have or don't have. YOu also can't teach any other intangibles.

Curry has it all.

and you can't back up a single claim you make. Having a ball hog INCREASES your efficiency, but I wouldn't begin to think you understand how to measure statistics, so have fun looking at fantasy world.

Hawkeye15
01-31-2011, 09:58 PM
btw, if I looked at fantasy for my stat knowledge, I would be in here claiming Love is the greatest PF in 28 years. Screw Duncan, McHale, KG, Malone, Barkley, give me Love!

Swashcuff
01-31-2011, 09:58 PM
You are just another guy that watches too many ESPN highlights and sports talk radio.

There is a difference between being the face of a franchise and just a role player. Right now Curry is not a franchise player because Monta will not let him have that title. Last year Stephen Jackson did the same thing and once he left Curry started getting more touches.

You can't teach leadership. It is something that people have or don't have. YOu also can't teach any other intangibles.

Curry has it all.

You can't teach idiocy and delusion.

You have it all.

How in the hell could the best player in the game be a role player. That logic is ********. If Derick Rose played along side Ellis he would still be getting his numbers and Ellis's will go down. He is great regardless. At this point in Curry's career he's no where near that level.

Swashcuff
01-31-2011, 10:01 PM
btw, if I looked at fantasy for my stat knowledge, I would be in here claiming Love is the greatest PF in 28 years. Screw Duncan, McHale, KG, Malone, Barkley, give me Love!

That's whey he could make a statement as foolish as Curry is going to be the best player of all time. He is clearly beyond delusional.

Hawkeye15
01-31-2011, 10:04 PM
That's whey he could make a statement as foolish as Curry is going to be the best player of all time. He is clearly beyond delusional.

you know, for such a smart guy, I can't understand why you love AI so much hahahaha

I can't believe anyone would use fantasy numbers to rank players. Its unreal.

roshan3ai
01-31-2011, 10:17 PM
Homer pick: Honestly, I think Landry Fields may be able to do it. Not this year, but later on in his career.

Swashcuff
01-31-2011, 10:18 PM
you know, for such a smart guy, I can't understand why you love AI so much hahahaha

I can't believe anyone would use fantasy numbers to rank players. Its unreal.

Heart dude. On the floor in his prime he has as much as anyone.

Swashcuff
01-31-2011, 10:21 PM
Homer pick: Honestly, I think Landry Fields may be able to do it. Not this year, but later on in his career.

As a knick fan who do you think is a better natural/pure shooter? Landry Fields or Danillo Gallinari?

If you realise only the greatest shooters of all time have been able to accomplish this feat. Do you think Landry has the potential to be seen as one of the best shooters of all time? Danillo? maybe Landry......... I think not. He isn't even at 80% from the line this season.