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JordansBulls
01-26-2011, 08:21 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/basketball/nba/wires/01/26/2030.ap.bkn.nba.team.values.1st.ld.writethru.0240/




The New York Knicks have overtaken the Los Angeles Lakers as the NBA's most valuable franchise, and 17 of the 30 teams are estimated to have lost money last season, according to Forbes.

The Knicks' value rose 12 percent from $586 million to $655 million, the magazine said Wednesday in its annual evaluation. The rise was attributed to increased ticket sales and sponsorships at Madison Square Garden.

The Lakers went up 6 percent from $607 million to $643 million.

Chicago was third at $511 million, followed by Boston ($452 million), Houston ($443 million) and Dallas ($438 million).

After signing Lebron James, the Miami Heat had the biggest percentage rise, a 17 percent increase to $425 million, good for seventh place. Following the loss of James, Cleveland dropped a league-high 26 percent to $355 million.
The average value of a franchise increased 1 percent to $369 million, down from $379 million two years ago.

Forbes estimated teams averaged $6.1 million in operating income. It said the total of teams that lost money is the most since the lockout-shortened 1998-99 season.

Chronz
01-26-2011, 08:32 PM
I wouldve sold Cleveland during the Bron era

Sox72
01-26-2011, 08:32 PM
I guess I'm surprised by Houston.

Sox72
01-26-2011, 08:33 PM
I wouldve sold Cleveland during the Bron era

Then you are blessed with incredible foresight and amazing business acumen.

JWO35
01-26-2011, 08:37 PM
I say PSD members donate 258mil and buy the Milwakee Bucks? :shrug:
We can make Mike James a household name again...

LTBaByyy
01-26-2011, 08:38 PM
Awesome! can we get a 2nd superstar please???? lol

:(

lvlheaded
01-26-2011, 08:38 PM
Houston that high surprises me a little. But the rest of the top five doesn't surprise me

Hoopsadvocate
01-26-2011, 08:40 PM
good for houston. i dont get why more players dont wanna play there.

abe_froman
01-26-2011, 08:40 PM
Houston that high surprises me a little. But the rest of the top five doesn't surprise me

why does it?
large market,huge chinese following/backing,solid legacy to milk

LTBaByyy
01-26-2011, 08:43 PM
When Yao Ming is traded, Houston wont be in the top 10

He is the reason they are there

D Roses Bulls
01-26-2011, 08:43 PM
I say PSD members donate 258mil and buy the Milwakee Bucks? :shrug:
We can make Mike James a household name again...

not with the way some people on this site value talent. we'd have someone like say a kobe type of player on the team and because a rookie is showing promise, there would be like a two-thirds vote to trade him for the rookie.

29$JerZ
01-26-2011, 08:45 PM
:up:

BigBlueCrew
01-26-2011, 08:46 PM
somewhere james dolan is smiling :facepalm:

kblo247
01-26-2011, 08:49 PM
Houston that high surprises me a little. But the rest of the top five doesn't surprise me

I know that he is hurt, but Yao was supposed to return this year. You have to remember that (NBA don't give refunds).

arkanian215
01-26-2011, 08:51 PM
hmm... Nets up 16% even though they didn't get a single star FA (2nd in % change to Miami). Must've been the Barclays Center breakthrough.

kblo247
01-26-2011, 08:52 PM
Lakers value will rise again as Jeanie Buss said that they just recently got Delta Airlines as a sponsor, and they were ironing out the details to a lucrative extension with 710 for their radio broadcasts as 570 tried to outbid them to get the rights back. They also signed an extension with Lexus and Mercedes according to her

knickerbockerny
01-26-2011, 08:53 PM
somewhere james dolan is smiling :facepalm:

I know right, he knows that whether or not the Knicks have success, he is still going to get paid off of Madison Square Garden, the 3 or 4 MSG sports channels, Knicks, Rangers, Radio City Music Hall, Cablevision, Newsday newspaper, etc.

kblo247
01-26-2011, 08:57 PM
Full order is:

Knicks
Lakers
Bulls
Celtics
Rockets
Mavs
Heat
Suns
Spurs
Raptors
Magic
Warriors
Pistons
Blazers
Cavs
Jazz
Sixers
Thunder
Wizards
Nuggets
Nets
Clippers
Hawks
Kings
Bobcats
Hornets
Pacers
Grizzlies
Timberwolves
Bucks

Evolution23
01-26-2011, 09:02 PM
Amare took us to the #1 spot by himself. Can you imagine how much money Melo would make the knicks franchise?

unwantedplayer
01-26-2011, 09:15 PM
Then you are blessed with incredible foresight and amazing business acumen.

Haha

Q4T

Flash3
01-26-2011, 09:16 PM
can someone post a link to the whole list ?

Flash3
01-26-2011, 09:17 PM
nvm got it.

PC
01-26-2011, 09:27 PM
Whatchu know about that?

BenFrank
01-26-2011, 09:34 PM
Houston is the 4th largest city in America.. there sports team is gonna have some type of value.. stop hatin

29$JerZ
01-26-2011, 09:38 PM
I thought Toronto would be higher

WeAreClutch
01-26-2011, 09:41 PM
clutch effort by houston to make the top five

Flash3
01-26-2011, 09:41 PM
lol cleveland and detroit droped badly

Flash3
01-26-2011, 09:43 PM
I thought Toronto would be higher

really ? with all the years of losing and them being a relatively new team for them to make the top 10 is pretty nice.

Flash3
01-26-2011, 09:45 PM
Amare took us to the #1 spot by himself. Can you imagine how much money Melo would make the knicks franchise?

judging by how much Cleveland dropped and Miami rises can you imagine where lebron could have taken the knicks :speechless:

SouthSideRookie
01-27-2011, 12:13 AM
Houston is the 4th largest city in America.. there sports team is gonna have some type of value.. stop hatin

Not only that, the Rockets and Astros just worked a contract that will give them their own tv network.

The "Yao effect" helps the league as a whole, and Les personally. It doesn't do as much as people think for the franchise. As stated in the article the majority of the income comes from suites and club suites, sponsors like Comcast, Toyota etc.

Geargo Wallace
01-27-2011, 12:30 AM
Toronto should be contracted. Like they're barely in front of Orlando geeeeeeeeesh

JordansBulls
01-27-2011, 12:43 AM
Full order is:

Knicks
Lakers
Bulls
Celtics
Rockets
Mavs
Heat
Suns
Spurs
Raptors
Magic
Warriors
Pistons
Blazers
Cavs
Jazz
Sixers
Thunder
Wizards
Nuggets
Nets
Clippers
Hawks
Kings
Bobcats
Hornets
Pacers
Grizzlies
Timberwolves
Bucks



Damn the Bucks last???

rhino17
01-27-2011, 12:47 AM
Not only that, the Rockets and Astros just worked a contract that will give them their own tv network.

The "Yao effect" helps the league as a whole, and Les personally. It doesn't do as much as people think for the franchise. As stated in the article the majority of the income comes from suites and club suites, sponsors like Comcast, Toyota etc.

People forget that the Texans are also the 10th most valuable sports franchise in the world

Houston is the 4th largest city in the country, not sure why anyone is surprised

aman_13
01-27-2011, 12:59 AM
It's nice to see Toronto in the top 10.

koreancabbage
01-27-2011, 01:02 AM
Toronto should be contracted. Like they're barely in front of Orlando geeeeeeeeesh

everyone else below Toronto should be contracted :rolleyes: lol

RulerSlick
01-27-2011, 01:03 AM
After signing Lebron James, the Miami Heat had the biggest percentage rise, a 17 percent increase to $425 million, good for seventh place. Following the loss of James, Cleveland dropped a league-high 26 percent to $355 million.

No wonder Gilbert was so mad:D

Yanks All Day
01-27-2011, 03:45 AM
No real surprise here. The big markets have the most valuable teams. Ironic that the Bucks are least valuable though.

Anilyzer
01-27-2011, 04:09 AM
Wow... that is much more than the value of a max contract, AND that doesn't even take into account all the ticket, concession and gear sales that were lost.

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/26/knicks-pass-lakers-as-league%e2%80%99s-most-valuable-franchise/related

Just... wow. No wonder that Cavs owner was so freakin' mad. Of course, if he would've handled it with class, just acted as if the franchise was strong and the Cavs were more than just Lebron... instead of acting just the opposite... it probably wouldn't have been that bad.

Denver, are you listening

xabial
01-27-2011, 04:11 AM
Poor Cav's Fans...

Poor Gilbert....

Master Mind
01-27-2011, 04:14 AM
So what, he's rich...

Raph12
01-27-2011, 04:17 AM
Well... DUH!!!

Flash3
01-27-2011, 10:16 AM
Wow... that is much more than the value of a max contract, AND that doesn't even take into account all the ticket, concession and gear sales that were lost.

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/26/knicks-pass-lakers-as-league%e2%80%99s-most-valuable-franchise/related

Just... wow. No wonder that Cavs owner was so freakin' mad. Of course, if he would've handled it with class, just acted as if the franchise was strong and the Cavs were more than just Lebron... instead of acting just the opposite... it probably wouldn't have been that bad.

Denver, are you listening

mello isn't on the same caliber nor breed as lebron, nuggets will be just fine without him.

HOZ THE KNICK
01-27-2011, 11:19 AM
hmm... Nets up 16% even though they didn't get a single star FA (2nd in % change to Miami). Must've been the Barclays Center breakthrough.

the value of the nets franchise will increase a lot when they move to ny especially if a star or 2 will be on the roster by 2012

The Final Boss
01-27-2011, 11:37 AM
Trust me you could not buy the Lakers for $630 million. Thia list is a crock. Forbes is New York based (no surprise there). It'll take $850 million- $1 billion dollars to purchase the Lakers franchise.

JordansBulls
01-27-2011, 11:37 AM
How did the Knicks value increase soo much?

97NYer
01-27-2011, 11:44 AM
Go NY go NY go, with Carmelo we'll be in the 700 millions.

Hellcrooner
01-27-2011, 11:45 AM
Funny thing is even after all the effort Stern has put in globalize the game and everything Nba Franchise still hod less value then Soccer; nfl and Baseball teams.
Im pretty sure they ahvent counted F1 teams or they would be over nba teams too.

Kashmir13579
01-27-2011, 01:24 PM
somewhere james dolan is smiling :facepalm:

lol **** dolan and his millions

Shark
01-27-2011, 01:39 PM
Raptors are 10th, Lol even with Bosh gone, the team value rose 3%, shows how much he was actually missed, even with him gone, our team is still top 10 value NBA team and still getting financially stronger, yay.

knicksfan42
01-27-2011, 01:53 PM
How did the Knicks value increase soo much?

New York is the largest city in the US (by a lot, twice the size of LA the second largest city), its also the media capital of the US. One star is all it takes for the Knicks to get like a trillion endorsements. It's kind of logical.

smuffins353
01-27-2011, 02:00 PM
Houston is the realist city in the USA

Weezy
01-27-2011, 02:08 PM
One man can do so much for the city....

Knickrocketsfan
01-27-2011, 02:16 PM
and ppl always want to hate on NY. this is why ppl want to play here, hater going to hate

colinskik
01-27-2011, 02:20 PM
Trust me you could not buy the Lakers for $630 million. Thia list is a crock. Forbes is New York based (no surprise there). It'll take $850 million- $1 billion dollars to purchase the Lakers franchise.
So you're questioning the credibility of Forbes? If these numbers were fabricated, someone would be all over it. Just accept it NY>LA.

NYYCowboys
01-27-2011, 02:20 PM
Best city in the world has the most valuable franchise go figure...

PrettyBoyJ
01-27-2011, 02:22 PM
its basically all the top markets in the US with the most money not that surprising

Lake_Show2416
01-27-2011, 02:37 PM
Forbes is stupid.. I guess the New York magazine wouldn't have a bias for a team that is simply relevant cuZ of the market

Wut a joke .... Top franchise if sold is either the lakers or celtics ..estimates don't matter, the teams would be sold for more money most likely

Teams built on championships n not chatter

davidst.hubbins
01-27-2011, 02:48 PM
Forbes is stupid.. I guess the New York magazine wouldn't have a bias for a team that is simply relevant cuZ of the market

Wut a joke .... Top franchise if sold is either the lakers or celtics ..estimates don't matter, the teams would be sold for more money most likely

Teams built on championships n not chatter

Couldn't be more wrong. Not that any of this matters even a little. If Dolan wanted to retire and be totally out of the business game and sell the Knicks along with everything that comes with it(MSG, RCMH,MSG Networks and that's not even counting the Rangers), the bidding would start at $1 Blllion. New York is king in both business and media and that's where the money is, deal with it.

DMasta718
01-27-2011, 02:57 PM
The list pretty much makes sense though. The top 5 valuable teams are in the biggest cities of America. Not that surprising.

knicksfan42
01-27-2011, 02:58 PM
Couldn't be more wrong. Not that any of this matters even a little. If Dolan wanted to retire and be totally out of the business game and sell the Knicks along with everything that comes with it(MSG, RCMH,MSG Networks and that's not even counting the Rangers), the bidding would start at $1 Blllion. New York is king in both business and media and that's where the money is, deal with it.

This pretty much says it all.

Sox72
01-27-2011, 03:07 PM
Forbes is stupid.. I guess the New York magazine wouldn't have a bias for a team that is simply relevant cuZ of the market

Wut a joke .... Top franchise if sold is either the lakers or celtics ..estimates don't matter, the teams would be sold for more money most likely

Teams built on championships n not chatter

You're aware that they're not claiming that the Knicks are a better franchise, right?

blahblahyoutoo
01-27-2011, 03:15 PM
the value of the nets franchise will increase a lot when they move to ny especially if a star or 2 will be on the roster by 2012

why aren't the clipspers higher?
big market and one of the biggest attractions in the league in blake.

blahblahyoutoo
01-27-2011, 03:20 PM
Forbes is stupid.. I guess the New York magazine wouldn't have a bias for a team that is simply relevant cuZ of the market

Wut a joke .... Top franchise if sold is either the lakers or celtics ..estimates don't matter, the teams would be sold for more money most likely

Teams built on championships n not chatter

i don't have an MBA or a business background, but i can tell you know even less than i do re this topic.

DaBUU
01-27-2011, 03:23 PM
I say PSD members donate 258mil and buy the Milwakee Bucks? :shrug:
We can make Mike James a household name again...

At least Hawkeye would immediately attempt to trade for Kevin Love.

knicksfan42
01-27-2011, 03:27 PM
why aren't the clipspers higher?
big market and one of the biggest attractions in the league in blake.

Lakers

Kevj77
01-27-2011, 04:18 PM
why aren't the clipspers higher?
big market and one of the biggest attractions in the league in blake.Blake should increase the value of the Clippers in years to come if they can keep him. Look at how much the value of franchises fluctuates in this article based on top players movement. Heat went up 17% and the value of the Cavs tanked. That would make me nervous as hell if I was an owner.

blahblahyoutoo
01-27-2011, 05:53 PM
Lakers

so then why would he expect the Nets value to increase a lot if they move to BK with the knicks 5 miles away?

at the moment, they're still only 20 miles away from nyc.

The Dream
01-27-2011, 07:50 PM
Forbes is stupid.. I guess the New York magazine wouldn't have a bias for a team that is simply relevant cuZ of the market

Wut a joke .... Top franchise if sold is either the lakers or celtics ..estimates don't matter, the teams would be sold for more money most likely

Teams built on championships n not chatter

if i could say what i rly want to responding to this post i would but i dont wanna get banned.:mad:

don't disrespect my city and team

koreancabbage
01-27-2011, 11:26 PM
Trust me you could not buy the Lakers for $630 million. Thia list is a crock. Forbes is New York based (no surprise there). It'll take $850 million- $1 billion dollars to purchase the Lakers franchise.

just b/c they say it's worth a certain amount of money doesn't mean it is what people will pay for. There are intangibles that are hard to put a price on, which i'm sure Forbes has done a nice job doing (which is more credit than what you just put up in a few sentences saying that the Lakers are worth $1 Billion dollars) but of course it depends on the owners and what they want from it.

if someone WANTS an item, they are almost guaranteed to go over the list price to beat out rival bidders etc.

koreancabbage
01-27-2011, 11:30 PM
Forbes is stupid.. I guess the New York magazine wouldn't have a bias for a team that is simply relevant cuZ of the market

Wut a joke .... Top franchise if sold is either the lakers or celtics ..estimates don't matter, the teams would be sold for more money most likely

Teams built on championships n not chatter

right, cuz they have NO expertise which you obviously possess. :rolleyes: good one. they have more credibility than you, :speechless:, which may shock you at first, but hey i know you'll get over it =)

BALLER R
01-28-2011, 09:25 AM
Raptors are 10th, Lol even with Bosh gone, the team value rose 3%, shows how much he was actually missed, even with him gone, our team is still top 10 value NBA team and still getting financially stronger, yay.

look at it as imagine if we were a top 5 five imagine how valuable we would become..we only have 13 wins right now and we're top 10

Bornknick73
01-28-2011, 01:51 PM
hmm... Nets up 16% even though they didn't get a single star FA (2nd in % change to Miami). Must've been the Barclays Center breakthrough.

I would expect that number to rise each year they are closer to Brooklyn. Once there i feel they will crack the top 5

Bornknick73
01-28-2011, 01:59 PM
Forbes is stupid.. I guess the New York magazine wouldn't have a bias for a team that is simply relevant cuZ of the market

Wut a joke .... Top franchise if sold is either the lakers or celtics ..estimates don't matter, the teams would be sold for more money most likely

Teams built on championships n not chatter

Spoken like a man who knows absolutely nothing about money or finance. Bravo!!

And for some of you to take a position that Forbes is biased towards NY is just plain.....(fill in the insulting expletive)

Forbes is the leader in collecting and reporting financial data. They are the reason you know how much money Bill Gates has. They arent biased towards anyone. They report about money and this is thier expertise. Who has it, Who has the most, What is something worth.

If you tried to buy any of the teams mentioned you are gonna pay what Forbes reported or more. But it will be in that general area.

Lake_Show2416
01-28-2011, 03:59 PM
Hahaha everyone sounds a little mad

Can't take the only thing the Knicks think they have above the rest of the league their "value" haha wut a joke

DMasta718
01-28-2011, 05:07 PM
Hahaha everyone sounds a little mad

Can't take the only thing the Knicks think they have above the rest of the league their "value" haha wut a joke

No. They're just telling you how wrong you are.

Lake_Show2416
01-28-2011, 05:16 PM
No. They're just telling you how wrong you are.

Yes of course I'm wrong haha... keep believing that the team if sold would bring in the most money hahahahahahahahahaha... the value is not just the based off the market.. it also based off of franchise achievements. N obviously nothing has happened in that department since the 60's. Plus LA market isn't that small

Anilyzer
01-28-2011, 05:26 PM
if the Knicks hire Isaiah Thomas again or draft another Friedric Weiss then their value will go back down to #20 or whatever.

I agree the valuation isn't all that accurate... What, did they go to a couple Knick games, see they have a big stadium, notice that the Knicks are on track for the playoffs, and then just say "that's it. Now that they're not a 70-loss team, they must be the most valuable franchise in the NBA. It's New York, after all."

I bet that's how they calculated... they probably looked at the prices that franchises have sold for recently, rolled in some revenue numbers and multplied it up based on the size of the city or something.

Yeah... no way could you buy the Lakers for $630M. That Chinese doctor guy just bought like 5% for $100M or something, he bought Magic's chunk. I've heard Buss say before that it would take a billion dollars, and that was years ago. The team makes money in all kinds of ways, LA is premiere basketball city, not shared with the NFL, tons of tradition, tons of championships, tons of class, tons of stars and history...

Obviously the value of the franchise will keep increasing. According to the 2008 numbers, the Lakers were worth appx $584M and the Knicks $613M two years ago.

Flash3
01-28-2011, 05:28 PM
if the Knicks hire Isaiah Thomas again or draft another Friedric Weiss then their value will go back down to #20 or whatever.

I agree the valuation isn't all that accurate... What, did they go to a couple Knick games, see they have a big stadium, notice that the Knicks are on track for the playoffs, and then just say "that's it. Now that they're not a 70-loss team, they must be the most valuable franchise in the NBA. It's New York, after all."

I bet that's how they calculated... they probably looked at the prices that franchises have sold for recently, rolled in some revenue numbers and multplied it up based on the size of the city or something.

Yeah... no way could you buy the Lakers for $630M. That Chinese doctor guy just bought like 5% for $100M or something, he bought Magic's chunk. I've heard Buss say before that it would take a billion dollars, and that was years ago. The team makes money in all kinds of ways, LA is premiere basketball city, not shared with the NFL, tons of tradition, tons of championships, tons of class, tons of stars and history...

Obviously the value of the franchise will keep increasing. According to the 2008 numbers, the Lakers were worth appx $584M and the Knicks $613M two years ago.

.........

knicksfan42
01-28-2011, 05:34 PM
if the Knicks hire Isaiah Thomas again or draft another Friedric Weiss then their value will go back down to #20 or whatever.

I agree the valuation isn't all that accurate... What, did they go to a couple Knick games, see they have a big stadium, notice that the Knicks are on track for the playoffs, and then just say "that's it. Now that they're not a 70-loss team, they must be the most valuable franchise in the NBA. It's New York, after all."

I bet that's how they calculated... they probably looked at the prices that franchises have sold for recently, rolled in some revenue numbers and multplied it up based on the size of the city or something.



I bet the people, probably some economists, working at Forbes are just a bit smarter than you in this area, and so no I don't think you know how they calculated anything.

In case you didn't read the article:



The rise was attributed to increased ticket sales and sponsorships at Madison Square Garden.

JordansBulls
01-29-2011, 10:38 AM
Anyone have the team values in 1998. I wanna see how the Knicks were doing then and the Bulls and SPurs.

Bornknick73
01-29-2011, 11:31 AM
When the Knicks finish the 800 million dollar renovation to MSG in 2012 the franchise value will go up higher.

The Lakers dont own the arena and they dont have the LakeShow network. So all they own is the team. You buy the Knicks you are buying the team, the Garden and the MSG network.

How the Lakers are thought to be more valuable doesnt make sense. Championships didnt build them a arena owned by the Buss family. It didnt get them thier own cable network either.

Whats worth more using common sense:

1) A team with championship history
2) A team, the arena they play in and the sports network that broadcasts them.

Im sorry but using common sense the Knicks will always be worth more. The Knicks own the Garden and they own the MSG network. Lakers dont even own the arena they play in.

So basically you buy the Knicks and you dont have to share profits with the controlling party who owns your arena and you keep all the advertising dollars your network generates. Knicks are worth more by far.

Bornknick73
01-29-2011, 11:36 AM
if the Knicks hire Isaiah Thomas again or draft another Friedric Weiss then their value will go back down to #20 or whatever.

I agree the valuation isn't all that accurate... What, did they go to a couple Knick games, see they have a big stadium, notice that the Knicks are on track for the playoffs, and then just say "that's it. Now that they're not a 70-loss team, they must be the most valuable franchise in the NBA. It's New York, after all."

I bet that's how they calculated... they probably looked at the prices that franchises have sold for recently, rolled in some revenue numbers and multplied it up based on the size of the city or something.

Yeah... no way could you buy the Lakers for $630M. That Chinese doctor guy just bought like 5% for $100M or something, he bought Magic's chunk. I've heard Buss say before that it would take a billion dollars, and that was years ago. The team makes money in all kinds of ways, LA is premiere basketball city, not shared with the NFL, tons of tradition, tons of championships, tons of class, tons of stars and history...

Obviously the value of the franchise will keep increasing. According to the 2008 numbers, the Lakers were worth appx $584M and the Knicks $613M two years ago.

The value difference is the Garden and the MSG network. Lakers were in the Finals Knicks were a 28 win team and we were still worth more. Always will be.

AIRMAR72
01-29-2011, 02:40 PM
lakers is the best franchise in league

JordansBulls
01-29-2011, 03:14 PM
lakers is the best franchise in league

Most successful that is for sure.

JNA17
01-29-2011, 03:52 PM
Houston is gonna decline badly if Yao retires.

clutchfan
01-29-2011, 04:13 PM
.

clutchfan
01-29-2011, 04:14 PM
Houston is gonna decline badly if Yao retires.

nope

JNA17
01-29-2011, 04:29 PM
nope

care to elaborate?

Bornknick73
01-29-2011, 06:26 PM
care to elaborate?

Yao retires and he takes a billion chinamen with him. Rocket jersey sales in China drop like a rock. Interests in the Rockets in Asia will drop. Viewership will decline significantly in the overseas markets which is what boosted the Rockets value to begin with. With Yao goes your international audience and they will take their international money with them. Which leaves Houston back in the post Hakeem era.

No disrespect towards Houston but before Yao I didnt see people in other cities wearing Rocket team gear. Without Yao they are just a local team and local teams dont make as much money as internationally recognized teams.

Dont underestimate the influence the Chinese have on the value of the Rockets franchise. When Yao retires the Chinese will be looking for a new star to follow and without Yao you wont have one right now.

colinskik
01-29-2011, 06:27 PM
Yes of course I'm wrong haha... keep believing that the team if sold would bring in the most money hahahahahahahahahaha... the value is not just the based off the market.. it also based off of franchise achievements. N obviously nothing has happened in that department since the 60's. Plus LA market isn't that small
Not only are you wrong, but you also seems to be the one butthurt that the Lakers aren't on the top of the list.

Bottom line is if you own the Knicks you own a bunch of other enterprises, all of which make the Knicks the most valuable franchise.

Forbes has the best economists doing actual research to get the correct evaluations. Not some teenager who thinks that the most successful franchise is the most valuable....

It's amazing how some people don't mind making complete fools out of themselves, letting everyone know how little the actually know.

colinskik
01-29-2011, 06:29 PM
Yao retires and he takes a billion chinamen with him. Rocket jersey sales in China drop like a rock. Interests in the Rockets in Asia will drop. Viewership will decline significantly in the overseas markets which is what boosted the Rockets value to begin with. With Yao goes your international audience and they will take their international money with them. Which leaves Houston back in the post Hakeem era.

No disrespect towards Houston but before Yao I didnt see people in other cities wearing Rocket team gear. Without Yao they are just a local team and local teams dont make as much money as internationally recognized teams.

Dont underestimate the influence the Chinese have on the value of the Rockets franchise. When Yao retires the Chinese will be looking for a new star to follow and without Yao you wont have one right now.
The Houston franchise will certainly take a hit if/when Yao retires, but it won't completely devastate them.

Bornknick73
01-29-2011, 06:32 PM
The Houston franchise will certainly take a hit if/when Yao retires, but it won't completely devastate them.

Not devastate but it would put them back to post Hakeem Pre-Yao days.

JordansBulls
01-29-2011, 06:59 PM
Rockets have always been a great franchise.

rhino17
01-29-2011, 07:49 PM
Yao retires and he takes a billion chinamen with him. Rocket jersey sales in China drop like a rock. Interests in the Rockets in Asia will drop. Viewership will decline significantly in the overseas markets which is what boosted the Rockets value to begin with. With Yao goes your international audience and they will take their international money with them. Which leaves Houston back in the post Hakeem era.

No disrespect towards Houston but before Yao I didnt see people in other cities wearing Rocket team gear. Without Yao they are just a local team and local teams dont make as much money as internationally recognized teams.

Dont underestimate the influence the Chinese have on the value of the Rockets franchise. When Yao retires the Chinese will be looking for a new star to follow and without Yao you wont have one right now.
Wrong, it might dip a little but not much

China is a fan of the Rockets now, not simply Yao, if you go to China, you see Rockets jerseys, not Yao jerseys

And Houston is still the 4th largest city in the US with more corporations and corporate sponsorship than any city outside of New York, they are the ones creating much of the value and that will not go away

colinskik
01-30-2011, 12:08 AM
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JordansBulls
02-02-2011, 11:27 PM
Wrong, it might dip a little but not much

China is a fan of the Rockets now, not simply Yao, if you go to China, you see Rockets jerseys, not Yao jerseys

And Houston is still the 4th largest city in the US with more corporations and corporate sponsorship than any city outside of New York, they are the ones creating much of the value and that will not go away

Any idea where the Rockets ranked after 1995?