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JasonJohnHorn
01-25-2011, 01:39 AM
Please don't move to Pistons forum, I'm hoping to get responces from around the league.



Rip Hamilton has given the Pistons his best years (and it has been a fair trade off considering the contract Hamilton has been awarded with and the NBA championship ring he has), but it seems things are falling apart. Hamilton has been benched (though he is still a solid enough player that he would be starting on over half the teams in this league, playoff teams and contenders included), but the Pistons rookie coach has seems to lack the tact to handle the Hamilton situation. He has harnessed a strained relationship with the veteran player, which no doubt has impacted his relationship with other players on the team, and when it comes to moving Hamilton in a trade, it seems that the Pistons are going to have a harder time if Hamilton is riding the bench on one of the worst teams in the league.

In 03, when the Pistons fell 1-3 to Orlando in the first round, Dumars stepped in and told his coach to play Prince, who then went on to shut down McGrady the rest of the series. When Thomas was close to retirement, the Knicks offered a trade for him and the team owner asked Thomas what he wanted. The same went for Dumars. And Dumars was so respected by Grant Hill that when Hill chose to leave the team, he helped Dumars work out a sign and trade that wouldn't make it a complete loss for the Pistons. Over the last couple of years the Pistons have seen coaching issues arise with Iverson (likely a failing on both ends of communication there) but at the same time the Pistons have traditionally shown a lot of respect to the veteran players. Kuester doesn't seem to understand how to handle sensative situations like this. Is it time for Dumars to step in, and handle this? It seems to be festering into a situation that does not make the Pistons look good in terms of how they treat their players.

Thoughts?

JLynn943
01-25-2011, 02:03 AM
They should really just try to trade him.

What's the point in keeping him? He's an aging SG that plays much better off the ball with a smart, passing PG (which Stuckey is not) feeding it to him. Rip no longer fits this team at all. The Pistons are at least a couple years away from being contenders, at which point Rip's career will be pretty much over. Why have him waste his last few good years on a rebuilding team?

If his contract wasn't bad, he'd be long gone by now.

Gators123
01-25-2011, 02:08 AM
As I said in the Pistons forum, Rip has been treated great his whole career in Detroit. The $34M extension was a thank you gift.

Dumars does not need to step in, Kuester has finally put his best lineup on the floor and unfortunately for Rip, hes not in it. Rip needs to look in the mirror and realize this isn't just Kuesters fault. He was giving a half *** effort when he was on the court this year.

fadedmario
01-25-2011, 02:14 AM
Detroit is 6-3 since yanking him (and been beating good teams). They are only a couple back of both the 7th and 8th playoff spot. Out of the Pistons next 16 games only 5 are against teams with a winning record (and those 5 games are at home). Hamilton will be dealt before the deadline guaranteed.

abe_froman
01-25-2011, 02:18 AM
deal him or buy him out.he's more dead weight and distraction to them at this point

yes rip was hero during the good years,but thats past not present and isnt going to be future.time to shut that chapter of piston history and move on with the new heroes that may pop up

D1JM
01-25-2011, 12:46 PM
Detroit is 6-3 since yanking him (and been beating good teams). They are only a couple back of both the 7th and 8th playoff spot. Out of the Pistons next 16 games only 5 are against teams with a winning record (and those 5 games are at home). Hamilton will be dealt before the deadline guaranteed.

This. Team is winning now and that's all you should care.

Ty Fast
01-25-2011, 01:12 PM
Detroit is 6-3 since yanking him (and been beating good teams). They are only a couple back of both the 7th and 8th playoff spot. Out of the Pistons next 16 games only 5 are against teams with a winning record (and those 5 games are at home). Hamilton will be dealt before the deadline guaranteed.

if someone will take him. he is owed a lot of money.

sep11ie
01-25-2011, 01:44 PM
if someone will take him. he is owed a lot of money.

Isn't he an expiring contract?

Chronz
01-25-2011, 02:01 PM
Isn't he an expiring contract?

No he has one of the most undesirable contracts in the league, one so bad that the team would rather not play him than risk nixing the deal due to injury. Its a sad situation because hes good enough to come off the bench for a contender but his contract is too long to justify releasing him. Hes stuck in no mans land.

xxplayerxx23
01-25-2011, 02:07 PM
I think he still has some game left. Either play him or trade him, Pistions have been playing well of late. So Maybe buying him out is another option.

mark1125
01-25-2011, 02:22 PM
As things stand now, he will not be bought out. Too much cash and a team for sale. He does have some value to a contending team. They may be able to move him for an expiring or so.

levignjw
01-25-2011, 02:31 PM
This. Team is winning now and that's all you should care.

Agreed. I love everything Rip has done for the Pistons, but his time is over now and the we are playing for the future.

Chronz
01-25-2011, 02:31 PM
I think he still has some game left. Either play him or trade him, Pistions have been playing well of late. So Maybe buying him out is another option.

When have you ever seen a buyout this large?

driz
01-25-2011, 02:53 PM
I'm not so sure they're going to be able to trade him. Obviously they want to, and are trying to...but I think the Nets-Melo deal falling through kind of pulled the chair out from under them. He's owed so much money, it's going to be hard for any teams to justify trading for him. He has plenty of play left in him, and going to a team with a lot of good pieces around him will only bring more out of him. He's a player that comes off screens and created opportunities for himself, and being on THIS Detroit team without a true PG, and without a star drawing a double team really killed his game. A contending team also has to look at his playoffs experience...that's not something you can really ignore.

Rip has plenty of game left...and he'd be a great asset to many teams...just not this Pistons team. The relationship has soured, someone from his own locker room said a while back that he'd given up. This sort of situation will only bring down morale and spread like cancer. Got to get him out of here one way or another. (I'd like to see them ditch Stuckey while they're at it.)

LA_Raiders
01-25-2011, 03:18 PM
That was Dumars ideas. They should trade him already...

ttam68
01-25-2011, 04:23 PM
Dumars should step down for giving him that awful extension

smith&wesson
01-25-2011, 04:48 PM
they should trade him for another bad contract, but at least for a player they can use. like a big man or somthing

or a play making point gaurd to feed all the scorers they have .

fadedmario
01-25-2011, 05:47 PM
Rumor is Chicago, Boston, Portland, and Dallas have all asked about him. I really think he'll be traded before the deadline.

Chronz
01-25-2011, 05:57 PM
they should trade him for another bad contract, but at least for a player they can use. like a big man or somthing

or a play making point gaurd to feed all the scorers they have .
Any suggestions?