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Ty Fast
01-10-2011, 04:08 PM
I know people don’t like “what if” threads but try to keep an open mind. Do you think that if Lebron had some help that they could have won a title(s) and would have stayed in Cleveland?

Minimal
01-10-2011, 04:10 PM
We can't know, but I think he would have had much bigger chances at winning a championship with Boozer.

koreancabbage
01-10-2011, 04:25 PM
championship. They needed that low post scorer on a consistent basis.

Zydrunas
Boozer
James
whoever (3 point specialist)
Mo Williams

69centers
01-10-2011, 06:54 PM
Depending on who else they got in those years, I think they would have had a good chance in beating the Spurs in the '06-'07 Finals and having at least one ring for Lebron. It was one of Boozer's best statistical years, having come off some injuries the previous two. He would have been in prime form and ready to help them try for the title.

xabial
01-10-2011, 06:58 PM
A True Example of How Salary Cap's Can **** Franchises. Cleveland couldnt offer Boozer more money then Utah because they were over the cap. I dont know who to blame the Gentleman's agreement between Cleveland and Boozer or the Salarp cap.

But back to the Original Poster's Question, Yes, I believe Lebron would have Had at least one Ring, and would probably have stayed in cleveland. (Depends how recent was the championship)

Khalifa21
01-10-2011, 06:58 PM
Adding a 20/10 low post scorer who can command a double team and could've been a legit sidekick to LeBron and a team that won 66 games would've put them over the top in my opinion. LeBron would have at least one ring and would probably still be in Cleveland.

Niro
01-10-2011, 06:58 PM
why did he leave cleveland in the first place?

ramsizzle
01-10-2011, 07:02 PM
why did he leave Cleveland in the first place?

The Cavs opted him out with the understanding that he would sign with their MLE and stay with the Cavs and out of nowhere signed a bigger money deal with Utah snaking Cleveland in the process.

bigsams50
01-10-2011, 07:11 PM
Funny how Boozer did Cleveland alot worst than LeBron did, and he didn't get as much heat.

As for the topic, i think they would have at least one ring. He would've finally given LBJ a legit low post threat he lacked in Cleveland

Young and Stupid
01-10-2011, 07:22 PM
Funny how Boozer did Cleveland alot worse than LeBron did, and he didn't get as much heat.

If this doesn't win Quote of The Week then I give up. Good ****, Sam. If you could have thrown in a "talents" reference then you could have been up for Quote of The Month honors, nonetheless it was a good effort.

WHODAT8o8
01-10-2011, 07:22 PM
Funny how Boozer did Cleveland alot worst than LeBron did, and he didn't get as much heat.
As for the topic, i think they would have at least one ring. He would've finally given LBJ a legit low post threat he lacked in Cleveland

i don't remember watching The Decision featuring Carlos Boozer.

Bulls_fan90
01-10-2011, 07:30 PM
Funny how Boozer did Cleveland alot worst than LeBron did, and he didn't get as much heat.

As for the topic, i think they would have at least one ring. He would've finally given LBJ a legit low post threat he lacked in Cleveland

At least he didn't **** them over on national television.

NetsPaint
01-10-2011, 07:32 PM
i don't remember watching The Decision featuring Carlos Boozer.
Was on a local channel in Maine at 3 AM.

bigsams50
01-10-2011, 07:35 PM
i don't remember watching The Decision featuring Carlos Boozer.


At least he didn't **** them over on national television.


LeBron never promised to stay and then leave. Say what you want about the decision, but what Boozer did was worse

hugepatsfan
01-10-2011, 07:36 PM
I think Lebron probably would have stayed in CLE. He might not have won a title, but I think the team would have been good enough that he would have stayed.

bigsams50
01-10-2011, 07:37 PM
If this doesn't win Quote of The Week then I give up. Good ****, Sam. If you could have thrown in a "talents" reference then you could have been up for Quote of The Month honors, nonetheless it was a good effort.

:laugh2: Now that you mention it, i think i could've squeezed in a "talents" reference

Niro
01-10-2011, 07:38 PM
wow yeah i think boozer was much more worse too
lebrons decision wasnt a good way but to say you will sign for less money and then sign for a way bigger contract with another team is ****ed up

Bulls_fan90
01-10-2011, 08:00 PM
Boozer denied that he made any commitment to the Cavaliers: "There was no commitment. It's unfortunate how the turn of events went through the media," Boozer said shortly after signing the deal with Utah. "I'm not a guy that gives my word and takes it away. I think I've made that clear."

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/preview?gid=2005011526

Kashmir13579
01-10-2011, 08:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7nXZ4oIvi4

watch Boozer

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AddiX
01-10-2011, 08:07 PM
Boozer cares about himself and that's it. Extremely talented, but I never saw him as a good teammate.

iCOOKiE MONSTER
01-10-2011, 08:07 PM
Boozer played for Utah not Cleveland

bigsams50
01-10-2011, 08:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7nXZ4oIvi4

watch Boozer

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LMAO, now that is some good quality defense right there.

bigsams50
01-10-2011, 08:09 PM
Boozer played for Utah not Cleveland

He started his career in Cleveland

DFROZE#1
01-10-2011, 08:25 PM
LeBron never promised to stay and then leave. Say what you want about the decision, but what Boozer did was worse

http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/174990-lebrons-goal-bring-title-to-cleveland

sounds like a promise to me

bigsams50
01-10-2011, 08:28 PM
http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/174990-lebrons-goal-bring-title-to-cleveland

sounds like a promise to me

LBJ didn't make the Cavs terminate his contract because he made them believe he would sign for less. Booz did that

DFROZE#1
01-10-2011, 08:37 PM
LBJ didn't make the Cavs terminate his contract because he made them believe he would sign for less. Booz did that

I did not say what Booze did was worse or better than what Lebron did, but you said lebron never promised to stay in cleveland and he clearly did.

bigsams50
01-10-2011, 08:46 PM
I did not say what Booze did was worse or better than what Lebron did, but you said lebron never promised to stay in cleveland and he clearly did.

Your right, he did make a promise, i didn't realize. But they are two different kinds of promises. Boozers promise made the Cavs terminate his contract because they believed Booz would resign with them. While LBJ was a FA when he left, so he wasn't under contract

Ty Fast
01-10-2011, 08:46 PM
I did not say what Booze did was worse or better than what Lebron did, but you said lebron never promised to stay in cleveland and he clearly did.

when?

Gators123
01-10-2011, 08:49 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7nXZ4oIvi4

watch Boozer

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lol

DFROZE#1
01-10-2011, 08:50 PM
when?

http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/174990-lebrons-goal-bring-title-to-cleveland

like i posted earlier

D Roses Bulls
01-10-2011, 08:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7nXZ4oIvi4

watch Boozer

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I liked this one ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_wpb3xtsLM

Kakaroach
01-10-2011, 09:12 PM
It would mean that the Jazz wouldn't have been as good the past couple of years, but you never know I guess. Would also mean that the Cavs would have been better and maybe LeBron would have stayed.

Who knows, it may have been because of Boozer ditching Cleveland that lead LeBron to do the same.

spartanbear
01-11-2011, 01:04 AM
This is a pretty good thread (at least I think :shrug:)...

Carlos Boozer's departure may have been the beginning of the end for bronbrons in Cleveland (of course hindsight's 20/20) but the Cavs had a solid developing big man in their laps and let him walk via the old wink and the gun (Seriously Cavs the ol' trust me I guarantee man, I gotchu' bit... WOW!!!)

Here's Gund's letter to the fans of Cleveland after Boozer's departure for Utah:
http://www.nba.com/cavaliers/news/gund_boozer_040714.html

So let me get this straight you guys knew there were a half dozen teams interested and you weren't willing to match due to salary cap implications but your 2004-05 roster was poo minus brons and maybe Big Z. C'mon man! The Cavs 2004-05 Roster:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CLE/2005.html

Idk Cleveland why not just make him play out his final year then go from there? I wasn't a fan of "the decision" as much as the next decent human being but in terms of a savvy move maybe lbj probably got it right when he left for Miami (or hell leaving for anywhere may have been getting it right)? And... and... He actually gave the Cavs time to get it right in terms of personnel. And here's what the Cavs FO considered bringing in the Calvary starting the following season 2005-06: http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CLE/2006.html

Holy ***** call a doctor :speechless:! I think I'm defending Lebron James.

It's hard to say what if James would have stayed but I think lbj and Boozer would have been two great pieces to build around. Dah Whelp.

Gambeezy
01-11-2011, 01:26 AM
A True Example of How Salary Cap's Can **** Franchises. Cleveland couldnt offer Boozer more money then Utah because they were over the cap. I dont know who to blame the Gentleman's agreement between Cleveland and Boozer or the Salarp cap.

But back to the Original Poster's Question, Yes, I believe Lebron would have Had at least one Ring, and would probably have stayed in cleveland. (Depends how recent was the championship)

This

el_primo_nano
01-12-2011, 11:54 PM
I think Lebron would have def stayed. Him leaving was a big deal in Cleveland at the time, and looking back I think Cleveland would have stacked up better against other teams with him and LBJ. They got cheap on him....