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29$JerZ
01-09-2011, 10:18 AM
It's put on a lot of rookies.
Around what age does it end? I know when you hit your 30's you'r viewed as a Vet. Some I know argue potential ends after 25 and you are what you after at that age?

Thoughts?

Swashcuff
01-09-2011, 10:32 AM
I think it depends on the player in all honesty. If the player is a Kwame Brown or a Adam Morrison IMO three years with no real signs of improvement even after a change of scenery and countless opportunities and as a matter of a fact three years of just getting worst is an adequate time frame and not necessarily age. If I was to give an age however I would say 25.

In terms of players like Greg Oden and Andrew Bynum guys who are often injured and really can't get it going I'd say 30 is an appropriate age. Especially if the player is a C.

Minimal
01-09-2011, 10:32 AM
Center - 28 years
Power Forward - 29 years
Small Forward - 30 years
Shooting Guard - 31 years
Point Guard - 32 years

Something like that, but there are a lot of other factors and it depends on player a lot.

Daze9900
01-09-2011, 10:35 AM
Probably around their 3rd to 5th year in most cases.

29$JerZ
01-09-2011, 10:36 AM
I think it depends on the player in all honesty. If the player is a Kwame Brown or a Adam Morrison IMO three years with no real signs of improvement even after a change of scenery and countless opportunities and as a matter of a fact three years of just getting worst is an adequate time frame and not necessarily age. If I was to give an age however I would say 25.

In terms of players like Greg Oden and Andrew Bynum guys who are often injured and really can't get it going I'd say 30 is an appropriate age. Especially if the player is a C.

I know what you mean

You have cases like Billups who took a long time, you have LeBron who basically was so good his ceiling wasn't too high yet he has so much room for improvement.

I really don't have an answer for the Q to be honest, every player is unique.

Doogolas
01-09-2011, 11:19 AM
Depends on when someone was drafted. But after the 4th year I think, while the potential to be great can still be there, the chances of it happening get far, far smaller.

Kashmir13579
01-09-2011, 12:37 PM
when they fail miserably like jerome james.

Sixerlover
01-09-2011, 12:38 PM
It's years in the NBA in my opinion. 3+ years and no production has been shown, get rid of the potential tag.

Sixerlover
01-09-2011, 12:40 PM
Center - 28 years
Power Forward - 29 years
Small Forward - 30 years
Shooting Guard - 31 years
Point Guard - 32 years

Something like that, but there are a lot of other factors and it depends on player a lot.

Wow, you sure do give players a long time to evaluate potential. So Lamar Odom and Rip Hamilton still have "potential" to get better?

Corey
01-09-2011, 12:40 PM
I'd say mid way through a player's third season, personally.

king4day
01-09-2011, 01:01 PM
I think it's years more than age. PG's like Nash and Billups came on later in their careers.

bahama0811
01-09-2011, 01:06 PM
I don't think its an actual age as much as years and how much they actually play. I'd say in the 3rd year you should at least see some signs that the guy can play.

arkanian215
01-09-2011, 01:25 PM
Wow, you sure do give players a long time to evaluate potential. So Lamar Odom and Rip Hamilton still have "potential" to get better?

I'll say RJ really changed his game. It might not be better than what it was before in a different system but he did change. He's 30.

@ OP Some dumb player like Outlaw most likely peaked early. Guys who have great athleticism have longer time spans to develop their game because the physical part for the most part will be there later on (barring injury). Some guys will just never get it mentally though.

DwayneMVPwade
01-09-2011, 01:27 PM
24 - 26 years of age

Redbull
01-09-2011, 01:37 PM
25-26.

tangent12
01-09-2011, 01:47 PM
10.

If you're garbage you're garbage.

Cano4prez
01-09-2011, 01:53 PM
25

Chi-Town Sports
01-09-2011, 01:58 PM
I say 26

drobe86
01-09-2011, 02:51 PM
you got 3 years... If it ain't happened by then forget it... Chauncey Billups is the only exception. And guys like Oden, Yao etc.... They will never reach their potential because they will never be on the court long enough to be a factor.

The Final Boss
01-09-2011, 03:13 PM
I think it depends on the player in all honesty. If the player is a Kwame Brown or a Adam Morrison IMO three years with no real signs of improvement even after a change of scenery and countless opportunities and as a matter of a fact three years of just getting worst is an adequate time frame and not necessarily age. If I was to give an age however I would say 25.

In terms of players like Greg Oden and Andrew Bynum guys who are often injured and really can't get it going I'd say 30 is an appropriate age. Especially if the player is a C.

So you're giving basketball players 11-12 years to establish themselves as decent players? More **** just came out of your mouth than out of your ***.

J-Relo
01-09-2011, 04:17 PM
1. In first few years players should get that trust in themselves, set the base.
2. Players develop their skills year by year. Working attitude.
3. Due to biological-aging skills-set changes (more of a shooting, slower pace game). The overall game is still around the same level.
4. The beginning of the overall skill level decrease differs due to differential in working attitude, however it's still around 30 for most of the players. No more potential.
5. In their late years players have the experience which makes them so called Veterans.

Chauncey is a great example when the experience he got made him into one of the best point guards even though his beginning of career was quite frustrating. Potential depends on mentality more than on physical abilities. Blake Griffin is in his first year as a professional and those dunks show he is full of trust if that attitude continues he might be one of the best big-men ever, however legacy depend on many things including being able to adapt, adapt to your own body. Check the Greatest.

sep11ie
01-09-2011, 04:32 PM
early to mid 40's.

Jsoul101
01-09-2011, 04:57 PM
Work ethics and sportsmenship attitude
when you can't see these from players they suck

abe_froman
01-09-2011, 05:01 PM
age doesnt matter as much as mins/years in the league

Raps08-09 Champ
01-09-2011, 05:15 PM
3-5 seasons or about 25-27 years of age. Whichever comes first.

If they went really given a chance in their first couple of seasons, I would give them a little more time. But if players are getting like 25 minutes and still underacheiving after a couple of seasons.

blueplanet
01-09-2011, 05:21 PM
End of 3rd season. A player's age is not a factor here. It's the number of seasons you count. If he doesn't pan out after 3rd year you can pretty give on him IMO.

blastmasta26
01-09-2011, 05:32 PM
3-5 seasons or about 25-27 years of age. Whichever comes first.

If they went really given a chance in their first couple of seasons, I would give them a little more time. But if players are getting like 25 minutes and still underacheiving after a couple of seasons.
Yeah I would agree with this.

phoenix_bladen
01-09-2011, 05:39 PM
yea i would say 3 years of NBA seasons to determine.

An example would be andrea bargnani...

his first season everyone thought he could play but then his 2nd season he regressed and people were labelling him a bust

it wasn't until his 3rd season he started showing signs of improvement

and ever since then he's been improving his numbers every year.

SA5195
01-09-2011, 05:52 PM
In the 3rd-4th season of a player.

MrfadeawayJB
01-09-2011, 05:59 PM
I wouldnt put it all on age....more of years experience in the league....i think if you dont get it by your 3rd or 4th year, you might be a lost cause...for age i would say 25 or so, but for the older rookies i would use the years experience test

thekmp211
01-09-2011, 06:14 PM
guys tend to plateau statistically around 26-28, so i'll say that's a decent range.

it depends on what you want to call potential.

el_primo_nano
01-13-2011, 12:01 AM
I would say 4th year in the league. Forget about age, but rather length of time in the league...

goblazers7
01-13-2011, 12:10 AM
Greg Odens only 22

thekmp211
01-13-2011, 12:20 AM
I would say 4th year in the league. Forget about age, but rather length of time in the league...

i think it is age, though. guys like amir johnson came in really young and are still improving despite being nba vets.

Hellcrooner
01-13-2011, 12:27 AM
die hard fans will always believe even at age 49

topdog
01-13-2011, 12:30 AM
Center - 28 years
Power Forward - 29 years
Small Forward - 30 years
Shooting Guard - 31 years
Point Guard - 32 years

Something like that, but there are a lot of other factors and it depends on player a lot.

Center is your youngest? This seems backwards to me and all too old.

There is no magic age because you have to take in a variety of factors such as when they started playing (either basketball altogether or their NBA position), opportunities, i.q., ect.

Plus, some guys will always have potential just not drive to realize it.

Kakaroach
01-13-2011, 12:33 AM
I'd say 25 is the over/under. Not too many players that have drastic break-out years unless they go into another system a la Raymond Felton this year.

el_primo_nano
01-13-2011, 10:55 AM
i think it is age, though. guys like amir johnson came in really young and are still improving despite being nba vets.

ok but he is no longer potential. You know what to expect from him already with hopes he can get better.. Look at Wilson Chandler. The past two years he was showing spurts of being good, and finally this year he went off and now he is showing his potential. Compare him to Danillo Gallinari and how everybody likened him to Dirk when he got drafted. He is still potential because he hasnt went off yet, but i doubt he will because I dont believe in the hype.