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JordansBulls
12-30-2010, 12:32 AM
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7:00 PM ET - Amway Center TNT

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9:30 PM ET - American Airlines Center TNT

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10:00 PM ET - Rose Garden

kjoke
12-30-2010, 12:32 AM
NY
Spurs
Jazz

210Don
12-30-2010, 12:34 AM
Magic
Spurs
Jazz

LTBaByyy
12-30-2010, 12:37 AM
Magic bc they're home
Mavs
Jazz

SteBO
12-30-2010, 12:43 AM
Magic
Spurs
Jazz
This

CHANGO
12-30-2010, 12:45 AM
Magic
Difficult, but I think the Mavs win. They are in home.
Jazz

Avenged
12-30-2010, 12:50 AM
Magic
Mavs
Jazz

I honestly don't care who loses between the Mavs/Spurs game.. A loss for either team is a win for the Lakers. Went with Mavs since their @ home.

NBA-GMaster
12-30-2010, 12:51 AM
magic
spurs
jazz

Kobes a Killer
12-30-2010, 12:55 AM
Magic
Mavs
Jazz

LTBaByyy
12-30-2010, 01:07 AM
Im glad the Lakers fans choose the Mavs, dont worry we'll get them for yall

Venomous88
12-30-2010, 01:12 AM
Magic
Spurs
JazzAgreed

Venomous88
12-30-2010, 01:22 AM
Im glad the Lakers fans choose the Mavs, dont worry we'll get them for yallNot without Dirk

LTBaByyy
12-30-2010, 01:38 AM
If we win this game we have to get our props from PSD, bc that would make our resume:

2 wins against Spurs, 2 wins against Heat, 1 win against Celtics, 2 wins against Utah, 1 win against Magic, and 2 wins against the Thunder

And no losses against those teams, thats most of the top teams

Plus 11-1 on the road, so I hope we win

210Don
12-30-2010, 01:50 AM
If we win this game we have to get our props from PSD, bc that would make our resume:

2 wins against Spurs, 2 wins against Heat, 1 win against Celtics, 2 wins against Utah, 1 win against Magic, and 2 wins against the Thunder

And no losses against those teams, thats most of the top teams

Plus 11-1 on the road, so I hope we win

you get your props when you win a championship and beat the spurs or lakers or both in a series. :)

Avenged
12-30-2010, 01:55 AM
Not without Dirk

What's wrong with Dirk?

LTBaByyy
12-30-2010, 02:04 AM
you get your props when you win a championship and beat the spurs or lakers or both in a series. :)

I swear you comment on every post I make lol

ATX
12-30-2010, 10:52 AM
Knicks
Spurs
Jazz

Baller1
12-30-2010, 01:51 PM
Well, at least one of the top 2 seeds has to lose. The West has definitely shown which teams are for real this season and which teams are just "good playoff teams". I see the top 5 seeds right now finishing as the top 5 by the end of the season, not necessarily in the same order.

Go Portland!

tdunk21
12-30-2010, 02:07 PM
Magic
Spurs
Jazz

good games on tnt tonite.....

tredigs
12-30-2010, 03:20 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=5970641

^Dirk is out tonight versus the Spurs. LAME.

I might start to get a little worried if I'm a Mavs fan. Did he clear an MRI?

CHANGO
12-30-2010, 03:26 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=5970641

^Dirk is out tonight versus the Spurs. LAME.

I might start to get a little worried if I'm a Mavs fan. Did he clear an MRI?

That sucks! And change what I said, Spurs win... :mad::(

LTBaByyy
12-30-2010, 03:30 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=5970641

^Dirk is out tonight versus the Spurs. LAME.

I might start to get a little worried if I'm a Mavs fan. Did he clear an MRI?

Why would we be worried? He is declared Day to Day

So if he is out, he made that decision not the trainers

HuRRiCaNeS324
12-30-2010, 03:40 PM
Gay.... this game will be less entertaining . But now the Mavs have less pressure and the Spurs are in a lose lose situation

210Don
12-30-2010, 06:01 PM
Gay.... this game will be less entertaining . But now the Mavs have less pressure and the Spurs are in a lose lose situation

exactly. :facepalm:

kdspurman
12-30-2010, 06:26 PM
its unfortunate Dirk is out tonight. I expect the Mavs to still come out playing though. I dont see it as a lose lose for us, if we win, it's a win. We cant control other teams injuries just like if Manu or Tony were out Dallas would not feel bad. I just hope we get the W cause any separation we can get is a good thing.

210Don
12-30-2010, 06:28 PM
its unfortunate Dirk is out tonight. I expect the Mavs to still come out playing though. I dont see it as a lose lose for us, if we win, it's a win. We cant control other teams injuries just like if Manu or Tony were out Dallas would not feel bad. I just hope we get the W cause any separation we can get is a good thing.

thats true, the separation would be good i think it be 3.5 games pretty good i dont expect the mavs to continue to play this well. and well hit a tough streak.

Iron24th
12-30-2010, 06:48 PM
Magic
Spurs
Blazers

D Roses Bulls
12-30-2010, 07:55 PM
lets go magic

LTBaByyy
12-30-2010, 08:09 PM
Dang the Knicks arent that bad Chuck come on now

I like them as the 5th best in the east

LTBaByyy
12-30-2010, 08:20 PM
Dwight is the new Rasheed, a tech already?!?!?7 come on bro you gotta keep your mouth shut and just let your game do the talking

Iodine
12-30-2010, 08:23 PM
Dwight> rebounding

Slimsim
12-30-2010, 08:26 PM
We are to small

ManRam
12-30-2010, 08:28 PM
Wow, we are struggling right now. Dwight probably hasn't played this poorly (on offense) for a 6 minute stretch all year.

Dwight has too cool it. His immaturity really hurts us at times...

LTBaByyy
12-30-2010, 08:28 PM
I have never seen another forum website have as much spam as psd does lol

Chill_Will_24
12-30-2010, 08:31 PM
Has Barkley always been a Knick hater? I mean I don't like the Knicks but at the same time dam. He said they wouldnt even win a round in the postseason. I guess it depends on the seeding.

LTBaByyy
12-30-2010, 08:32 PM
Dang if you look at the Bobcats with the struggles and everything, all they need is a couple guys like Felton and Tyson Chandler

:facepalm:

ManRam
12-30-2010, 08:32 PM
Has Barkley always been a Knick hater? I mean I don't like the Knicks but at the same time dam. He said they wouldnt even win a round in the postseason. I guess it depends on the seeding.

A) I do think he does dislike NYK.
B) I agree that they won't win a round in the playoffs as is, and I don't think you have to be a "hater" to believe that. Miami, Orlando, Boston and Chicago are all better teams and would win a 7 game series IMO.

ManRam
12-30-2010, 08:33 PM
And wow...we are sucking...

ManRam
12-30-2010, 08:35 PM
Jam Jam with two really nice plays :love: Nice finish from J-Rich.

Chill_Will_24
12-30-2010, 08:35 PM
Also :pity: at Dwight... The refs are swallowing their whistles tonight and I understand his frustration but he needs to grow up. He just picked up a tech a couple of minutes ago and now he's mocking the refs after some non calls. Your team needs you. Swallow your pride and let your game talk cuz if you get ejected there's no Gortat to back you up

Slimsim
12-30-2010, 08:38 PM
We need a defensive center like a Noah

Flash3
12-30-2010, 08:39 PM
Has Barkley always been a Knick hater? I mean I don't like the Knicks but at the same time dam. He said they wouldnt even win a round in the postseason. I guess it depends on the seeding.

i dont think they'll win a round either.

Flash3
12-30-2010, 08:40 PM
A) I do think he does dislike NYK.
B) I agree that they won't win a round in the playoffs as is, and I don't think you have to be a "hater" to believe that. Miami, Orlando, Boston and Chicago are all better teams and would win a 7 game series IMO.

you forgot Atlanta

ManRam
12-30-2010, 08:42 PM
you forgot Atlanta

Fair enough. Just proves even more that saying the Knicks won't win a playoff series is not something only a "hater" would say. I think they could, but I wouldn't put my money on it now.

Hawkeye15
12-30-2010, 08:43 PM
Dwight> rebounding

Kevin Love called and wanted to remind you he is running away with the rebounding crown currently.

ManRam
12-30-2010, 08:44 PM
JJ Redick is untradable IMO. We need a big, but not at his expense. No need to move one of the hottest 6th men in the league for a 10th man backing up Dwight. I'd take a lesser C for Duhon, Williams, Q or even J-Rich than a really good one for Redick. He's been so valuable this past month; almost playing 30 minutes a game.

Slimsim
12-30-2010, 08:46 PM
JJ would be perfect for our system.

Maybe Andy rautins can be like him

Chill_Will_24
12-30-2010, 08:46 PM
you forgot Atlanta

They can def win a round or two against the Hawks. They need to play for a 5th or 6th seed cuz they will be murdered by MIA and BOS. I mean MIA wouldve beat them by 40 if they had stayed focused. They fell asleep and let a high octane offensive team pick up rhythm.

John Walls Era
12-30-2010, 08:48 PM
JJ Redick is untradable IMO. We need a big, but not at his expense. No need to move one of the hottest 6th men in the league for a 10th man backing up Dwight. I'd take a lesser C for Duhon, Williams, Q or even J-Rich than a really good one for Redick. He's been so valuable this past month; almost playing 30 minutes a game.

How bout if Portland needs to have him unless they won't give you Camby. In the playoffs that can make a difference. Magic already have guys like Hedo, Arenas, JRich and QRich who can give decent mins at the SG/SF position.

John Walls Era
12-30-2010, 08:48 PM
Once again the Knicks D has been bad. Magic missed some open 3s.

Flash3
12-30-2010, 08:49 PM
They can def win a round or two against the Hawks. They need to play for a 5th or 6th seed cuz they will be murdered by MIA and BOS. I mean MIA wouldve beat them by 40 if they had stayed focused. They fell asleep and let a high octane offensive team pick up rhythm.

idk atl is pretty legit.

LTBaByyy
12-30-2010, 08:50 PM
Amare yelled "Get that **** out of here!"

They need censors on those back board mics ha ha

ManRam
12-30-2010, 08:50 PM
JJ would be perfect for our system.

Maybe Andy rautins can be like him

JJ moves off-the-ball incredibly well, and he is seriously at times our best penetrator with the ball. His offensive game is amazing. He's not just a spot up shooter, not at all. He's great with and without the ball. He's quickly becoming my favorite player. He just does everything so perfectly. I'm beginning to think that he'll be an amazing coach some day too.

Not sure if Rautins have that upside. From what I've seen of him in Syracuse mainly, he won't have the ability to slash and move as much as JJ can. He could be a knock-down shooter though for sure...

Slimsim
12-30-2010, 08:52 PM
Yes give amare a tech WHY

John Walls Era
12-30-2010, 08:52 PM
:laugh2: way to be a smart leader Amare.

LTBaByyy
12-30-2010, 08:52 PM
That was a tech???????

Let them play!!!!!

ManRam
12-30-2010, 08:53 PM
How bout if Portland needs to have him unless they won't give you Camby. In the playoffs that can make a difference. Magic already have guys like Hedo, Arenas, JRich and QRich who can give decent mins at the SG/SF position.

I've heard Camby's name...and even for him (his contract isn't too good) I would be reluctant to move JJ. In the playoffs, the back up center, even if it is someone as good as Camby, probably isn't going to log more than 10 minutes a game. JJ is logging close to 30...and playing so well.


Once again the Knicks D has been bad. Magic missed some open 3s.

It really has been, and it will be what holds them back. They've defended Dwight well...but nothing else has been good. The Magic hit a few of the open threes they've gotten and this is a double digit game easily...

As I speak, it becomes 8.

ManRam
12-30-2010, 08:54 PM
I like the analogy between leading the league in shot blocking and tackles. It makes a lot of sense. Leading the league in blocks probably is a very deceptive statistic.

Chill_Will_24
12-30-2010, 08:54 PM
Good job Amare. Beautiful block then gets a tech for taunting :pity: idiot...

John Walls Era
12-30-2010, 08:55 PM
It really has been, and it will be what holds them back. They've defended Dwight well...but nothing else has been good. The Magic hit a few of the open threes they've gotten and this is a double digit game easily...

As I speak, it becomes 8.

I'm going to have to agree with Chuck. Knicks won't make the 2nd round with this kind of defense.

LTBaByyy
12-30-2010, 08:55 PM
JJ moves off-the-ball incredibly well, and he is seriously at times our best penetrator with the ball. His offensive game is amazing. He's not just a spot up shooter, not at all. He's great with and without the ball. He's quickly becoming my favorite player. He just does everything so perfectly. I'm beginning to think that he'll be an amazing coach some day too.

Not sure if Rautins have that upside. From what I've seen of him in Syracuse mainly, he won't have the ability to slash and move as much as JJ can. He could be a knock-down shooter though for sure...

Come on bro, JJ didnt do any of that his first few years in the NBA

Any player can do what JJ does if they work at it, hes not an all star or anything

It shouldnt be that hard, landry fields is better than JJ and he was picked 2 people ahead of Rautins

I think your overrating him def when you said he is the hottest six man right now

John Walls Era
12-30-2010, 08:56 PM
I've heard Camby's name...and even for him (his contract isn't too good) I would be reluctant to move JJ. In the playoffs, the back up center, even if it is someone as good as Camby, probably isn't going to log more than 10 minutes a game. JJ is logging close to 30...and playing so well.


I actually haven't seen much of JJ. Always knew he was a scorer though. Will keep an eye out to see if hes as good as you're advertising him to be.

Kenny
12-30-2010, 08:56 PM
Good job Amare. Beautiful block then gets a tech for taunting :pity: idiot...

The refs are getting dumber and dumber with these technicals. By seasons end the stars are going to be missing game sbecause of it

RC3
12-30-2010, 08:56 PM
Refs have a hidden agenda against the Knicks.

John Walls Era
12-30-2010, 08:56 PM
Come on bro, JJ didnt do any of that his first few years in the NBA

Any player can do what JJ does if they work at it, hes not an all star or anything

It shouldnt be that hard, landry fields is better than JJ and he was picked 2 people ahead of Rautins

JJ was an elite scorer in college. I always thought he could easily emulate what Rip Hamilton does.

John Walls Era
12-30-2010, 08:59 PM
The refs are getting dumber and dumber with these technicals. By seasons end the stars are going to be missing game sbecause of it

The rules were made known to the players in the preseason. I hate it too, but if you know the rules you have to try to control yourself. No excuse for having 10 techs when theres still 60% of the season left.



Refs have a hidden agenda against the Knicks.

Knicks are leaving people wide open and jumping on every fake.

ManRam
12-30-2010, 08:59 PM
Come on bro, JJ didnt do any of that his first few years in the NBA

Any player can do what JJ does if they work at it, hes not an all star or anything

It shouldnt be that hard, landry fields is better than JJ and he was picked 2 people ahead of Rautins

Ok...let's give JJ some credit here. He was one of the top 10 college basketball players ever. Comparing Rautins to him is a huge stretch right now.

Yes, he makes a career off of working hard, but he's been great this year. He's also a tremendous athlete. Even two years ago, he was running around with Ray Allen in the playoffs 30 minutes a game contesting every shot.

I didn't say he was an all-star. I said he's an invaluable piece to our team. I stand by that. We have a ton of players who get by on athleticism alone...JJ plays the game right and complements our other players to a T. You can't understand how valuable he's been until you watch him night in and night out.

I don't get why you're bringing Landry Fields into this. I'm not trying to get into a Knick-Magic dick-measuring contest.

Flash3
12-30-2010, 09:01 PM
JJ moves off-the-ball incredibly well, and he is seriously at times our best penetrator with the ball. His offensive game is amazing. He's not just a spot up shooter, not at all. He's great with and without the ball. He's quickly becoming my favorite player. He just does everything so perfectly. I'm beginning to think that he'll be an amazing coach some day too.

Not sure if Rautins have that upside. From what I've seen of him in Syracuse mainly, he won't have the ability to slash and move as much as JJ can. He could be a knock-down shooter though for sure...

jj is impressive, i also like how bigger 2 guards think they can take advantage him but they end up getting locked down.

Slimsim
12-30-2010, 09:02 PM
That's game Losing amare this early is never a good thing

ManRam
12-30-2010, 09:02 PM
Refs have a hidden agenda against the Knicks.

When the going gets hard, blame the refs.

Typical...

Amare needs to cool it. Has had been hacking Howard all night. One of the ones on him was questionable, but he's gotten away with a couple already. He's acting like Dwight right now emotionally...

Amare1
12-30-2010, 09:02 PM
how on earth was that a foul...thats a joke

VinSUNity
12-30-2010, 09:02 PM
Amare>League.

Joshtd1
12-30-2010, 09:02 PM
I love me some JJ. Wish he was on the Spurs :love:

Then again Im a Duke fan so I have some bias there

Kenny
12-30-2010, 09:04 PM
The rules were made known to the players in the preseason. I hate it too, but if you know the rules you have to try to control yourself. No excuse for having 10 techs when theres still 60% of the season left.




Knicks are leaving people wide open and jumping on every fake.

The guy just blo0cked soemone and is elebrating not complaining to a ref and its a tech. The league is becoming a joke with this ****

LTBaByyy
12-30-2010, 09:04 PM
JJ was an elite scorer in college. I always thought he could easily emulate what Rip Hamilton does.

I think he is a very good role player!! But he said JJ is the hottest 6th man in the league right now?

Come on now, he is a veryyy good role player and nothing more

Chill_Will_24
12-30-2010, 09:04 PM
I'm going to have to agree with Chuck. Knicks won't make the 2nd round with this kind of defense.

Their style makes for some exciting ball and regular season wins but come playoff time they will fail miserably.

HeaTxRipZz
12-30-2010, 09:05 PM
ehhh Amare is getting very worked up tonight he needs to watch out for another Tech......game is going his way just gotta try and keep calm with this give us extra money role Stern has put in place

John Walls Era
12-30-2010, 09:08 PM
Magic need to do a better job at giving Dwight the ball when hes pinning someone down.

ManRam
12-30-2010, 09:08 PM
I think he is a very good role player!! But he said JJ is the hottest 6th man in the league right now?

Come on now, he is a veryyy good role player and nothing more

I said "ONE OF" the hottest...

The last month, he's been averaging 27 minutes, 14 points, 2.5 rebounds, on 55.4% shooting and 56.7% from three. Please, please, please me how that is not hot? He's been great. Can't expect much more from a 6th man.

He's showing it again tonight :shrug:

John Walls Era
12-30-2010, 09:09 PM
Their style makes for some exciting ball and regular season wins but come playoff time they will fail miserably.

I see them winning 1 game.

PS: How is Amare being a great leader? Why does everyone say this?

ManRam
12-30-2010, 09:11 PM
The benches have key tonight.

Redick is +17, Anderson is +13 and Gil +9. The Knicks are -21 combined

VinSUNity
12-30-2010, 09:11 PM
I think Redick is a good role player and all but he gets WAY too excited over every shot he makes. am i the only one who sees this? its annoying..

LTBaByyy
12-30-2010, 09:11 PM
Why is Shawne Williams guarding Dwight?

They need some size!! Where is Mozgov or whatever

Kenny
12-30-2010, 09:13 PM
I see them winning 1 game.

PS: How is Amare being a great leader? Why does everyone say this?


:facepalm: This dude watches like 3 knicks games and now is saying Amare isn't a leader.

John Walls Era
12-30-2010, 09:14 PM
Why is Shawne Williams guarding Dwight?

They need some size!! Where is Mozgov or whatever

Mozgov is a big body but hes terrible. IMO Knicks better hope they get the Magic in the first round. Maybe with some luck from god, Dwight will get into foul trouble or suspended for a game due to techs. Both teams have almost no size (Knicks have less).

LTBaByyy
12-30-2010, 09:14 PM
The Magic look good, they just need a center

And they will have to trade one of their rotation guys for one

I dont think teams want Duhon (contract), Q, or Williams

Amare1
12-30-2010, 09:14 PM
:facepalm: This dude watches like 3 knicks games and now is saying Amare isn't a leader.

LOL I know its hilarious...i guess if you get a tech and are in foul trouble you are a horrible leader LOL

John Walls Era
12-30-2010, 09:15 PM
:facepalm: This dude watches like 3 knicks games and now is saying Amare isn't a leader.

Not now... I always said this. WHy don't you give me an example of his leadership.

John Walls Era
12-30-2010, 09:15 PM
LOL I know its hilarious...i guess if you get a tech and are in foul trouble you are a horrible leader LOL

I failed to see how hes a great leader. The Knicks beat teams during their easy stretch.... then all of a sudden Amare is a great leader and MVP candidate.

Amare1
12-30-2010, 09:16 PM
Not now... I always said this. WHy don't you give me an example of his leadership.

All of NYs staff and players saying it? Considering they actually know him

Chill_Will_24
12-30-2010, 09:16 PM
Lol this Knick defense is a joke. They could be so good if they had some type of defense. The Magic are doing what they want out there. Idc how many blocked shots and steals the Knicks get.

ManRam
12-30-2010, 09:17 PM
:facepalm: This dude watches like 3 knicks games and now is saying Amare isn't a leader.

He asked "How". He didn't outright say that he wasn't. Instead of making fun of him, you could explain to us how in fact he is. I've never thought of him as a locker room leader...maybe that was just because Nash overshadowed him.

Flash3
12-30-2010, 09:18 PM
magic running away with it.

Amare1
12-30-2010, 09:19 PM
Nice coaching d'antoni....shawne williams guarding dwight howard...yeahhhhh

John Walls Era
12-30-2010, 09:20 PM
He asked "How". He didn't outright say that he wasn't. Instead of making fun of him, you could explain to us how in fact he is. I've never thought of him as a locker room leader...maybe that was just because Nash overshadowed him.

Thank you for actually reading my question. I don't know how hes a great leader and I actually wanted to know why everyone thought he was; but once again I get bombarded by Knicks fans.



All of NYs staff and players saying it? Considering they actually know him

Fair enough. Doesn't really answer my question though.

Slimsim
12-30-2010, 09:21 PM
Waving the white flag on this one

ManRam
12-30-2010, 09:22 PM
Dwight might be having his worst offensive scoring half of the year, shooting 2-11...yet the lead is still huge. Interesting...

LTBaByyy
12-30-2010, 09:22 PM
Camby + Cunningham for JJ Redick + Ryan Anderson

I think that will be the trade

Slimsim
12-30-2010, 09:23 PM
Wislon the only one who came to play

ManRam
12-30-2010, 09:28 PM
Camby + Cunningham for JJ Redick + Ryan Anderson

I think that will be the trade

And I don't think Otis would ever do that...

Giving up way too much for a 36 year old man who will make 10 million next year backing up the best C in the game.

HeaTxRipZz
12-30-2010, 09:32 PM
@John

People say hes a great leader for a number of reasons

1. He stepped up and was ready to put NY on his shoulders not knowing if he would even have any help.

2. When the Knicks had a very slow start I believe 3-9 he stepped up and spoke to the team how it's not acceptable and how they need to keep getting better after that speech they went on that streak.

3. Hes helped the young guys develop a better work ethic he pretty much changed the whole image and feel around there

Noone is saying he is like the best player in the entire league but he has shown that he can be a pretty good leader....He also needs help there like anyone else....People bringing up how he has 10 techs as a leader but noone says anything about Dwight's 12? I don't think that's fair at all. **** happens and especially with the new rule in place you have to expect to see that

LTBaByyy
12-30-2010, 09:33 PM
Kenny said the Thunder were championship contenders? Hahaha good thing c webb and chuck put him in his place

And the Mavs got their respect as the best team in the west, I wish Dirk was playing

John Walls Era
12-30-2010, 09:35 PM
@John

People say hes a great leader for a number of reasons

1. He stepped up and was ready to put NY on his shoulders not knowing if he would even have any help.

2. When the Knicks had a very slow start I believe 3-9 he stepped up and spoke to the team how it's not acceptable and how they need to keep getting better after that speech they went on that streak.

3. Hes helped the young guys develop a better work ethic he pretty much changed the whole image and feel around there

Noone is saying he is like the best player in the entire league but he has shown that he can be a pretty good leader....He also needs help there like anyone else....People bringing up how he has 10 techs as a leader but noone says anything about Dwight's 12? I don't think that's fair at all. **** happens and especially with the new rule in place you have to expect to see that

Fair enough. Also never heard those points being brought up.

Crackadalic
12-30-2010, 09:35 PM
mozzy and AR cant hurt us any more then what were doing right now. we look so small out there its pathetic

John Walls Era
12-30-2010, 09:35 PM
So basically the Heat, Celtics, Magic and Bulls are good and everyone is trash in the East (-Barkley).

D Roses Bulls
12-30-2010, 09:35 PM
the magic killing.......... GO MAGIC!!!!

LTBaByyy
12-30-2010, 09:36 PM
Chuck is the new 50 tyson! I know yall saw that commercialof his song lol

_KB24_
12-30-2010, 09:38 PM
Camby + Cunningham for JJ Redick + Ryan Anderson

I think that will be the trade

Doubt it would happen, but Dwight & Camby would be the greatest defensive center rotation ever.......scary :speechless:

Flash3
12-30-2010, 09:41 PM
So basically the Heat, Celtics, Magic and Bulls are good and everyone is trash in the East (-Barkley).

pretty much, though i would slip atl in there also.

D Roses Bulls
12-30-2010, 09:42 PM
so those people on psd that said the magic didnt have a deep bench no more must feel dumb

Slimsim
12-30-2010, 09:48 PM
Bass > Lewis how was this guy in the doghouse last year

Slimsim
12-30-2010, 09:53 PM
I hope we can keep Chandler

ManRam
12-30-2010, 09:55 PM
Bass > Lewis how was this guy in the doghouse last year

He avoided playing defense at all costs. That's a no-no with stan. Also, anderson started the season so incredibly strong. Bass is much improved. I'm stoked he starts now.

D Roses Bulls
12-30-2010, 09:55 PM
Hahaha@ amare

LTBaByyy
12-30-2010, 09:56 PM
So what happened to Daniel Orton???? Hes a center on the magic

Are they only wanting to develop him for now or is he not good?

He is only like 19 and was drafted in the first round this past draft

Flash3
12-30-2010, 09:58 PM
So what happened to Daniel Orton???? Hes a center on the magic

Are they only wanting to develop him for now or is he not good?

He is only like 19 and was drafted in the first round this past draft

It's hard to develop rooks on championship teams unless they are somewhat refined, daniel is extremely raw.

Slimsim
12-30-2010, 10:00 PM
He avoided playing defense at all costs. That's a no-no with stan. Also, anderson started the season so incredibly strong. Bass is much improved. I'm stoked he starts now.

I would kill to have him on the Knicks

Bass that is

LTBaByyy
12-30-2010, 10:04 PM
Scott Skiles had 30 assist in one game for the Magic???? Dang!

Flash3
12-30-2010, 10:13 PM
wow alot of spam and it's usually the same sites.

anyways..... i really think mavs somehow pull it off tonight without dirk.

lavell12
12-30-2010, 10:18 PM
JJ Redick has developed into a real good NBA player, I don't see why he would be traded for a backup center. He is too valuable for that, he plays over 20 mins a game now Dwight's backup probably plays barely more than ten.

HuRRiCaNeS324
12-30-2010, 10:18 PM
D'Antoni gives the Knick's starting lineup a lot of minutes on a nightly basis, especially Amare. Idk how long they will last playing them heavy minutes like that.

Amare literally played the entire 2nd half against us on a game that didnt even mean anything lol

Flash3
12-30-2010, 10:18 PM
JJ Redick has developed into a real good NBA player, I don't see why he would be traded for a backup center. He is too valuable for that, he plays over 20 mins a game now Dwight's backup probably plays barely more than ten.

quoted for truth.

Slimsim
12-30-2010, 10:25 PM
D'Antoni gives the Knick's starting lineup a lot of minutes on a nightly basis, especially Amare. Idk how long they will last playing them heavy minutes like that.

Amare literally played the entire 2nd half against us on a game that didnt even mean anything lol

Did Wade even sit that game ? He didn't get much rest either

Iron24th
12-30-2010, 10:30 PM
Wilson Chandler is very good,hard to imagine the knicks tried to trade him.

LTBaByyy
12-30-2010, 10:31 PM
JJ Redick has developed into a real good NBA player, I don't see why he would be traded for a backup center. He is too valuable for that, he plays over 20 mins a game now Dwight's backup probably plays barely more than ten.

Thats why hes valuable, no one is gonna want duhon, q, or williams

If you want a decent back up your gonna have to give up a good piece

Ive seen trade rumors where the Magic are interested in all this centers but Redick is the only guy they want back for them

Slimsim
12-30-2010, 10:33 PM
Didn't think the came will be close

Slimsim
12-30-2010, 10:35 PM
Once again good team hit big shots Last game Wade this game Richardson

Chill_Will_24
12-30-2010, 10:38 PM
WTF is wrong with these Florida teams? :pity: both MIA and ORL were blowing out the Knicks before the half with MIA actually blowing them out in the 1st! Both ended close. These elite teams need to learn to stay focused against these offensive squads.

HuRRiCaNeS324
12-30-2010, 10:39 PM
Did Wade even sit that game ? He didn't get much rest either

He logged 38 minutes.

Chill_Will_24
12-30-2010, 10:40 PM
Getting Turk back has to be the best move the Magic could have made. Hes perfect for that system!

Slimsim
12-30-2010, 10:41 PM
Frustrating that every comeback we try to pull someone hit a unbelievable three point shot. Never the other way around

lavell12
12-30-2010, 10:43 PM
Thats why hes valuable, no one is gonna want duhon, q, or williams

If you want a decent back up your gonna have to give up a good piece

Ive seen trade rumors where the Magic are interested in all this centers but Redick is the only guy they want back for them

I know that, just saying I wouldn't trade JJ for a backup Center. The Magic need a backup for Dwight but I don't think JJ is worth that.

HuRRiCaNeS324
12-30-2010, 10:44 PM
WTF is wrong with these Florida teams? :pity: both MIA and ORL were blowing out the Knicks before the half with MIA actually blowing them out in the 1st! Both ended close. These elite teams need to learn to stay focused against these offensive squads.

Again, the only reason the Knicks came back is because their starting lineup almost all logged 40 minutes except for Fields. And i wouldn't doubt they all played 95% of the 2nd half. When we were in our 2nd unit, the Knicks would still have their starting 5 In the fourth it was our starting 5 against theirs and we closed it.

Dunno whats going on in this game...

Tha Truth
12-30-2010, 10:46 PM
Damn no Dirk tonight again?

I wish he was playing tonight.

D Roses Bulls
12-30-2010, 10:48 PM
so where's all the people the magic doubters at?

Slimsim
12-30-2010, 10:49 PM
Good game orlando Just go to show that the Knicks aren't going to role over and die.

Still not sure if Carmelo Solves our problem

D Roses Bulls
12-30-2010, 10:49 PM
Scott Skiles had 30 assist in one game for the Magic???? Dang!

yep, still an NBA record

Crackadalic
12-30-2010, 10:49 PM
The knicks are not bad or mediocre but they are good not quite great or elite. were in the middle. if were gonna get to the next step we have to play better D and we have to solidify the bench because or bench production is so horrible its not funny.

Iron24th
12-30-2010, 10:51 PM
Good win by the Magic,they're just a work in progress,but they're already impressive,boston and miami will be worried soon.

Ollie Tabooger
12-30-2010, 10:54 PM
No nowitzki? bleh i was looking forward to seeing my favorite nba player to watch.

D Roses Bulls
12-30-2010, 10:54 PM
what a block by kidd

LTBaByyy
12-30-2010, 10:54 PM
Omg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jason Kidd, that is all.

Slimsim
12-30-2010, 10:57 PM
That old **** pulled a LBJ

HuRRiCaNeS324
12-30-2010, 10:57 PM
The knicks are not bad or mediocre but they are good not quite great or elite. were in the middle. if were gonna get to the next step we have to play better D and we have to solidify the bench because or bench production is so horrible its not funny.

D'Antoni =/ Defense

LTBaByyy
12-30-2010, 10:59 PM
That old **** pulled a LBJ

:) hey he use to have some major hops for his size

Tha Truth
12-30-2010, 11:25 PM
The Spurs are not missing.

northsider
12-31-2010, 12:11 AM
Mavs hanging around without Dirk is damn impressive.

210Don
12-31-2010, 12:12 AM
trap game for spurs. lose lose situation like pop said.

LTBaByyy
12-31-2010, 12:13 AM
I keep forgetting we dont have the #1 guy on the MVP race

Im so proud of these guys win or lose

210Don
12-31-2010, 12:16 AM
steady diet of timmy still gettin it done

Flash3
12-31-2010, 12:19 AM
after losing to the raptors didn't think they had a chance.

210Don
12-31-2010, 12:21 AM
after losing to the raptors didn't think they had a chance.

teams always play great when one star is missing others step up big

northsider
12-31-2010, 12:23 AM
teams always play great when one star is missing others step up big

So true CJ Watson dropped like 30+ for us when Rose was out and now looks like a deer in the head lights when he comes off the bench to run the offense.

210Don
12-31-2010, 12:30 AM
So true CJ Watson dropped like 30+ for us when Rose was out and now looks like a deer in the head lights when he comes off the bench to run the offense.

yeah it works great for a game but not over a few games especially in a rivalry like this both teams will come to play hard.


and 4th qt time Jet Vs. Manu!!
who wins???

210Don
12-31-2010, 12:50 AM
i look at this dallas team with dirk. they just dont scare me. only terry and dirk do everyone else, the spurs can guard in a series i have no doubt the spurs would win.

Baller1
12-31-2010, 12:54 AM
The Spurs are so ****ing good.

Flash3
12-31-2010, 12:55 AM
i would have to put my money on the mavs when healthy if we're talking a 7 game series.

LTBaByyy
12-31-2010, 12:56 AM
This game shows me how elite we are, even without dirk we play great defense

They score 110 a game and they only have 88

I cant wait til Dirk comes back plus Roddy B!!!!!! :)

210Don
12-31-2010, 12:57 AM
i would have to put my money on the mavs when healthy if we're talking a 7 game series.

you would lose it lol
but hey why do you think there better i wanna hear another opinion.

210Don
12-31-2010, 01:09 AM
man tony and manu have played horrible.
thank goodness gary neals a beast

LTBaByyy
12-31-2010, 01:10 AM
We really could use that 24 points from Dirk being down by only 5

Im sure this impresses a lot of people how we still played

210Don
12-31-2010, 01:13 AM
good job spurs really shows how good we are. coulda been a let down game but it wasnt spurs stayed focused.thank goodness butler will prolly never do that in a playoff series he was ridiculous.

kjoke
12-31-2010, 01:14 AM
well there you go, spurs>mavs

Giraffes Rule
12-31-2010, 01:15 AM
We really could use that 24 points from Dirk being down by only 5

Im sure this impresses a lot of people

Yeah, I'm really impressed by a loss. :rolleyes:

Flash3
12-31-2010, 01:17 AM
:laugh2: ltbayy and 210don boost their teams alot.

playoffs are gonna be epic this year forsure.

LTBaByyy
12-31-2010, 01:17 AM
Great night.

All I know is we are 1-1 against Spurs this season

And beat them when both teams were full strength :)

Well if you dont count our starting SG Roddy Buckets

Flash3
12-31-2010, 01:18 AM
well there you go, spurs>mavs

no dirk tonight though.

either way (spur+mav) <<<<<<<<< HEAT

:hide:

210Don
12-31-2010, 01:18 AM
cant belive mavs cant even beat us when tony and manu play terrible! lol

Giraffes Rule
12-31-2010, 01:19 AM
Great night.

All I know is we are 1-1 against Spurs this season

And beat thim when both teams were full strength :)

Well if you dont count our starting SG Roddy Buckets

The Spurs haven't had their backup to Jefferson in either of the two games, not sure how that's full strength. I still think the Spurs are a better all around team, and until the Mavs prove me wrong I'll continue to think that.

EDIT: And dude, we get it. You have a massive man crush on Beaubois. You don't have to mention him every opportunity you get.

Flash3
12-31-2010, 01:19 AM
cant belive mavs cant even beat us when tony and manu play terrible! lol

^^ :laugh2: this gonna get outta hand.

good win for the spurs though.

Baller1
12-31-2010, 01:42 AM
Charles is a hater.

BlondeBomber41
12-31-2010, 01:52 AM
Good win Spurs. All it took was our MVP being out, Roddy Buckets still being out, Jason Terry shooting 3 of 16 and your 3rd string PG coming in and hitting 5 three's to squeak out the victory.

You obviously showed you are the better team, and I am being sarcastic.

shep33
12-31-2010, 01:52 AM
As badly as the Lakers have been playing... they're 2.5 games out of 2nd in the west.

kjoke
12-31-2010, 01:53 AM
have a big feeling dallas is gonna gets their hopes crush when roddy comes back..hes no savior

210Don
12-31-2010, 01:56 AM
have a big feeling dallas is gonna gets their hopes crush when roddy comes back..hes no savior

lol some people just wanna believe.





@bb41 gary neal a 3rd string pg lmao!!! watch some games and stop talking nonsense.
our best 3 point shooter is out, james anderson he will make a far bigger impact than roddy boobys.

shep33
12-31-2010, 01:59 AM
Spurs are really deep... Neal and Hill are terrific players, Bonner knocks down 3's... very solid all around. Gotta stay healthy though.

tdunk21
12-31-2010, 02:00 AM
no dirk tonight though.

either way (spur+mav) <<<<<<<<< HEAT

:hide:

totally uncalled for and baseless unconnected statement

shep33
12-31-2010, 02:03 AM
no dirk tonight though.

either way (spur+mav) <<<<<<<<< HEAT

:hide:

I dunno about that... Miami is terrific, and I expect them to get the #1 seed like I always have... but Dallas matches up extremely well with them, and San Antonio is pretty darn good

D Roses Bulls
12-31-2010, 02:06 AM
well there you go, spurs>mavs

oh come on........ the mvp of the league so far didn't even play and they still only lost by 6

BlondeBomber41
12-31-2010, 02:07 AM
lol some people just wanna believe.

@bb41 gary neal a 3rd string pg lmao!!! watch some games and stop talking nonsense.
our best 3 point shooter is out, james anderson he will make a far bigger impact than roddy boobys.

Lets do some counting together, shall we?

1. Tony Parker
2. George Hill
3. Gary Neal

Furthermore, you sound like an idiot when you say stuff like "James Anderson will make a far bigger impact than Rodrigue Beaubois". You really do. Beaubois last year showed what he can do, the only thing that held him back was Carlisle's refusal to play a rookie in big time situations. Don't count on that again this year.

Here is a little viewing material for you. Roddy almost single handily brought us back from that 25 point deficit in San Antonio last year. For some reason Carlisle decided to pull him for vets when the Mavs took the lead and never put him back in, which was one of the worst decisions he has ever made.

He makes the Spurs defense look really silly actually. Especially Tim Duncan at the rim.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ5TUKA8Guw

tdunk21
12-31-2010, 02:09 AM
oh come on........ the mvp of the league so far didn't even play and they still only lost by 6

:confused:

tdunk21
12-31-2010, 02:14 AM
Lets do some counting together, shall we?

1. Tony Parker
2. George Hill
3. Gary Neal

Furthermore, you sound like an idiot when you say stuff like "James Anderson will make a far bigger impact than Rodrigue Beaubois". You really do. Beaubois last year showed what he can do, the only thing that held him back was Carlisle's refusal to play a rookie in big time situations. Don't count on that again this year.

Here is a little viewing material for you. Roddy almost single handily brought us back from that 25 point deficit in San Antonio last year. For some reason Carlisle decided to pull him for vets when the Mavs took the lead and never put him back in, which was one of the worst decisions he has ever made.

He makes the Spurs defense look really silly actually. Especially Tim Duncan at the rim.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ5TUKA8Guw

gary neal is an undersized SG .....quinn is our 3rd string PG.....

oh and why dont we really talk about roddy when we see what he can do consistently.....neal had 21 points tonite, does that make him a star coz he made dallas defense look terrible? no right.....

drobe86
12-31-2010, 02:15 AM
:confused:

Aww don't be foolish. Name 2 players playing better than Dirk in 2010....:facepalm:

drobe86
12-31-2010, 02:17 AM
cant belive mavs cant even beat us when tony and manu play terrible! lol


Dude Dirk didn't play a single minute in the game lol... No way I would feel good about that win. In fact, that just goes to show you that the first game was more indicative of what both teams are...

BlondeBomber41
12-31-2010, 02:19 AM
gary neal is an undersized SG .....quinn is our 3rd string PG.....

oh and why dont we really talk about roddy when we see what he can do consistently.....neal had 21 points tonite, does that make him a star coz he made dallas defense look terrible? no right.....

He didnt make the defense look terrible. He hit a bunch of threes. Good for him. Thats what the Mavs defense is set up to do, make a team beat them from deep.

Big difference between hitting open 3's and slashing through defenses like butter at will.

tdunk21
12-31-2010, 02:21 AM
Aww don't be foolish. Name 2 players playing better than Dirk in 2010....:facepalm:

lebron, durant

Giraffes Rule
12-31-2010, 02:23 AM
Lets do some counting together, shall we?

1. Tony Parker
2. George Hill
3. Gary Neal

Furthermore, you sound like an idiot when you say stuff like "James Anderson will make a far bigger impact than Rodrigue Beaubois". You really do. Beaubois last year showed what he can do, the only thing that held him back was Carlisle's refusal to play a rookie in big time situations. Don't count on that again this year.

Here is a little viewing material for you. Roddy almost single handily brought us back from that 25 point deficit in San Antonio last year. For some reason Carlisle decided to pull him for vets when the Mavs took the lead and never put him back in, which was one of the worst decisions he has ever made.

He makes the Spurs defense look really silly actually. Especially Tim Duncan at the rim.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ5TUKA8Guw
Gary Neal is a SG, and sometimes plays the 3 spot since James Anderson is down. Don't call someone an idiot when you don't even have your own facts straight.

drobe86
12-31-2010, 02:25 AM
lebron, durant


Ha try neither... The Thunder have utterly underachieved and Lebron has been good but not great. Maybe you could make a case for Amare Stoudemire and before he got hurt Derrick Rose. But Dirk's playing the best ball in the NBA right now. And I think most people that watch would tell you that.

tdunk21
12-31-2010, 02:39 AM
Ha try neither... The Thunder have utterly underachieved and Lebron has been good but not great. Maybe you could make a case for Amare Stoudemire and before he got hurt Derrick Rose. But Dirk's playing the best ball in the NBA right now. And I think most people that watch would tell you that.

why not lebron and durant...their teams are 25-9 and 22-11 respectively....lebron is averaging 24.4 ppg and durant is averaging 28.1 ppg......amare (26.3 ppg with a record of 18-14).....oh and why are the thunder underachieved? coz barkley and webber think so?? thunder are division leaders as of now....

BlondeBomber41
12-31-2010, 02:42 AM
Gary Neal is a SG, and sometimes plays the 3 spot since James Anderson is down. Don't call someone an idiot when you don't even have your own facts straight.

Technically Jason Kidd plays the 3 when we use the Terry/Barea/Kidd lineup. That doesn't make him any less of a PG.

JJ Barea plays alot of 2 guard when he is in the game with Jason Kidd. Doesn't make him a shooting guard.

Neal came into the league as a 1, is listed as a 1, and is the size of a 1. If the Spurs use him as a 2 sometimes, it doesn't make him any less of a 1.

210Don
12-31-2010, 02:47 AM
Technically Jason Kidd plays the 3 when we use the Terry/Barea/Kidd lineup. That doesn't make him any less of a PG.

JJ Barea plays alot of 2 guard when he is in the game with Jason Kidd. Doesn't make him a shooting guard.

Neal came into the league as a 1, is listed as a 1, and is the size of a 1. If the Spurs use him as a 2 sometimes, it doesn't make him any less of a 1.


what are you talking about???:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
hes 6'5'' hes a sg damn. ive never seen him listed as a 1 sorry bro.
hes not a 1!!! i watched this team all year he might play some one evrey now and again but he isnt. tmac played pg last night but he isnt

BlondeBomber41
12-31-2010, 02:55 AM
what are you talking about???:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
hes 6'5'' hes a sg damn. ive never seen him listed as a 1 sorry bro.
hes not a 1!!! i watched this team all year he might play some one evrey now and again but he isnt. tmac played pg last night but he isnt

Here ya go, and actually he is 6-4.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=4300

210Don
12-31-2010, 03:04 AM
Here ya go, and actually he is 6-4.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=4300

thats espn for you.....

Giraffes Rule
12-31-2010, 03:49 AM
Technically Jason Kidd plays the 3 when we use the Terry/Barea/Kidd lineup. That doesn't make him any less of a PG.

JJ Barea plays alot of 2 guard when he is in the game with Jason Kidd. Doesn't make him a shooting guard.

Neal came into the league as a 1, is listed as a 1, and is the size of a 1. If the Spurs use him as a 2 sometimes, it doesn't make him any less of a 1.

Quite frankly, ESPN is wrong. Gary Neal is a shooting guard for the Spurs. In the month of December, he's averaging 21.something minutes per game, basically as Manu's back up. Usually it goes...

Parker and Ginobili start, Hill (a combo guard) comes in for Manu, he and Parker play for a bit. Parker is then pulled, and Neal is put in the game. The point guard duties then move to Hill, while Neal is basically a spot up shooter who sometimes will drive to the basket when the defender is able to close out and goes for a fake.

So no, Neal is not the third string point guard. But obviously you, as a Mavs fan, know much more about how the Spurs operate than I do.

JayW_1023
12-31-2010, 03:51 AM
Good win Spurs. All it took was our MVP being out, Roddy Buckets still being out, Jason Terry shooting 3 of 16 and your 3rd string PG coming in and hitting 5 three's to squeak out the victory.

You obviously showed you are the better team, and I am being sarcastic.

We are the better team. The record proves it. The Mavs beat us last time with Dirk shooting an unreal percentage. That won't happen every game.

The Mavs must rely on Dirk to carry them. For the Spurs it's a different guy every game almost. That flexibility makes The Spurs the better team.

SpursToFansUnit
12-31-2010, 04:06 AM
Good win Spurs. All it took was our MVP being out, Roddy Buckets still being out, Jason Terry shooting 3 of 16 and your 3rd string PG coming in and hitting 5 three's to squeak out the victory.

You obviously showed you are the better team, and I am being sarcastic.

LOL, bro, Butler had his best game of the season, Kidd had a triple double, Manu and Tony stunk it up and your team LOST.

It's ok, you can accept it and move on. I know you care so much about these regular season games, you know like how the Mavs won the regular season series against the Spurs last season, but kid, when it's playoff time, yeah, that's where the big boys play and where the Mavs join their city pro teams in being ousted or in the case of the Cowboys, not even making them. Ouch.

As for Gary Neal, he's a scoring guard not a point guard and it was his third 20 point game of the season. Maybe if you took your head out of the Mavs players butts you'd have noticed. But you know, Neal with it. :clap:

JayW_1023
12-31-2010, 04:17 AM
Gary Neal is so underrated. The reason he is not your average rookie is the overseas experience he has gotten.

People will continue to sleep on him as if he's some no name until he shoots a clutch three against their team. He does for us what Roger Mason did two years ago.

BlondeBomber41
12-31-2010, 04:27 AM
We are the better team. The record proves it. The Mavs beat us last time with Dirk shooting an unreal percentage. That won't happen every game.

The Mavs must rely on Dirk to carry them. For the Spurs it's a different guy every game almost. That flexibility makes The Spurs the better team.

The records prove NOTHING. We have beaten SO many more good teams than the Spurs have, and on the road alot of the time. To say the records prove anything is ridiculous, especially since 2 of our losses came without Dirk Nowitzki.

The Mavs rely on Dirk to carry them and shoot amazing according to you... yet the Spurs barely beat the Mavs without Dirk. Do you realize how flawed your logic is? Caron Butler is playing MUCH better than he was at the start of the season when we beat you, and the team as a whole is much better. We beat OKC on the road playing without Dirk for 3 quarters. Your team hasn't had as an impressive road win all season. You beat OKC once on the road, we have beat them twice on the road. You beat PHX on the road... we beat Utah, Miami, and Orlando on the road. You beat Denver on the road, so did we....

Your team has done nothing this year but prove they can beat up on bad teams better than the Mavs can. Good for the Spurs. Too bad you wont be playing the Minnesota Timberwolves in the playoffs...

210Don
12-31-2010, 04:40 AM
The records prove NOTHING. We have beaten SO many more good teams than the Spurs have, and on the road alot of the time. To say the records prove anything is ridiculous, especially since 2 of our losses came without Dirk Nowitzki.

The Mavs rely on Dirk to carry them and shoot amazing according to you... yet the Spurs barely beat the Mavs without Dirk. Do you realize how flawed your logic is? Caron Butler is playing MUCH better than he was at the start of the season when we beat you, and the team as a whole is much better. We beat OKC on the road playing without Dirk for 3 quarters. Your team hasn't had as an impressive road win all season. You beat OKC once on the road, we have beat them twice on the road. You beat PHX on the road... we beat Utah, Miami, and Orlando on the road. You beat Denver on the road, so did we....

Your team has done nothing this year but prove they can beat up on bad teams better than the Mavs can. Good for the Spurs. Too bad you wont be playing the Minnesota Timberwolves in the playoffs...



How is the San Antonio football team doing? Oh yeah, thats right... your city is too poor and worthless to get a football team. Sorry about that. We'll spend this offseason consoling ourselves with the 5 Super Bowl trophies and come back strong next year.
well hold our 4 NBA Trophys tight as well wish you knew how a nba championship felt like. but u only know what a finals loss feels like lmao:)

xabial
12-31-2010, 04:49 AM
I enjoyed the Mavs Spurs game but couldnt help but wonder what the end result would be with Dirk....

Still the Spurs are helluva good team this year....28&4 Dont Lie folks..

JayW_1023
12-31-2010, 04:52 AM
The records prove NOTHING. We have beaten SO many more good teams than the Spurs have, and on the road alot of the time. To say the records prove anything is ridiculous, especially since 2 of our losses came without Dirk Nowitzki.

The Mavs rely on Dirk to carry them and shoot amazing according to you... yet the Spurs barely beat the Mavs without Dirk. Do you realize how flawed your logic is? Caron Butler is playing MUCH better than he was at the start of the season when we beat you, and the team as a whole is much better. We beat OKC on the road playing without Dirk for 3 quarters. Your team hasn't had as an impressive road win all season. You beat OKC once on the road, we have beat them twice on the road. You beat PHX on the road... we beat Utah, Miami, and Orlando on the road. You beat Denver on the road, so did we....

Your team has done nothing this year but prove they can beat up on bad teams better than the Mavs can. Good for the Spurs. Too bad you wont be playing the Minnesota Timberwolves in the playoffs...

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That's not flawed at all. Dirk is their focal point and alot of attention goes to him. Without Dirk Dallas has alot of talent, and in a balanced effort is still a very tough team to beat when they are locked in. Plus, without Dirk, their offense becomes way less predictable.

Manu and Parker were non-factors for much of the game and the Spurs still pulled it out. Against the Lakers DaJuan Blair was our best player for crying out loud.

The fact that the Spurs are winning while sparing their championship core of TP, Manu and Duncan get plenty of rest should also be noted. I wonder how much Dirk has left in the tank when the playoffs start?

BlondeBomber41
12-31-2010, 04:58 AM
That's not flawed at all. Dirk is their focal point and alot of attention goes to him. Without Dirk Dallas has alot of talent, and in a balanced effort is still a very tough team to beat when they are locked in. Plus, without Dirk, their offense becomes way less predictable.

Manu and Parker were non-factors for much of the game and the Spurs still pulled it out. Against the Lakers DaJuan Blair was our best player for crying out loud.

The fact that the Spurs are winning while sparing their championship core of TP, Manu and Duncan get plenty of rest should also be noted. I wonder how much Dirk has left in the tank when the playoffs start?

Dirk plays 6 more minutes a game than Duncan, which is only 35 a game. I am not worried about him getting worn out, 35 a game for your best player is just fine.

The Mavs weren't "locked in" last night. Jason Terry went 3 of 16 from the field, and nobody besides Caron Butler really did anything too significant... yet it was still a close game.

Dirk doesn't have to blow up in order for us to win. We have shown that time and time again against the best teams in the league this year. The Spurs aren't somehow different than any other team. In fact by the numbers the Spurs are a very average defensive team. I'm sure we'll be just fine...

210Don
12-31-2010, 05:01 AM
That's not flawed at all. Dirk is their focal point and alot of attention goes to him. Without Dirk Dallas has alot of talent, and in a balanced effort is still a very tough team to beat when they are locked in. Plus, without Dirk, their offense becomes way less predictable.

Manu and Parker were non-factors for much of the game and the Spurs still pulled it out. Against the Lakers DaJuan Blair was our best player for crying out loud.

The fact that the Spurs are winning while sparing their championship core of TP, Manu and Duncan get plenty of rest should also be noted. I wonder how much Dirk has left in the tank when the playoffs start?

and dont fuhget bonner lol

JayW_1023
12-31-2010, 05:04 AM
Dirk plays 6 more minutes a game than Duncan, which is only 35 a game. I am not worried about him getting worn out, 35 a game for your best player is just fine.

The Mavs weren't "locked in" last night. Jason Terry went 3 of 16 from the field, and nobody besides Caron Butler really did anything too significant... yet it was still a close game.

Dirk doesn't have to blow up in order for us to win. We have shown that time and time again against the best teams in the league this year. The Spurs aren't somehow different than any other team. In fact by the numbers the Spurs are a very average defensive team. I'm sure we'll be just fine...


I don't need to see the numbers that Dirk attempts more shots than any San Antonio Spur. Nobody besides Caron Butler you say? JKidd had a triple double!

BlondeBomber41
12-31-2010, 05:17 AM
I don't need to see the numbers that Dirk attempts more shots than any San Antonio Spur. Nobody besides Caron Butler you say? JKidd had a triple double!

I meant as far as carrying the scoring load. Kidd had like 12, Marion 12.... but nobody really stepped up besides Caron and we still hung tough until the end.

You act like Parker and Manu didn't do much, but they outscored our second and third leading scorers.... 15 and 14 respectively.

The other players on the team play much better with Dirk in the lineup. More space, less pressure, more open shots. The fact that we kept it close without Dirk and beat you with Dirk on the road should show that the Mavs are the better team, but I'm sure you won't see it that way. I am quite confident in the group and how they match up with you, I will just say that.

Joshtd1
12-31-2010, 05:31 AM
This game really means nothing guys. Im glad we got the win because it helps division wise.

By the way Mavs fans, you know this came could have been a lot different if Dirk did play. Whose to say Butler scores 27 with Dirk playing? Whose to say Dirk would have shot 10-12 or whatever he did last game against us.

A couple years ago the Spurs beat the Mavs at full strength when Parker and TD were out and Manu dropped like 35 +. Other games when we were at full strength he didnt score that much again and I think we lost one.

When a star player is out, other players usually rise but when the star comes back they go back down to normal because they won't get as many shots.

Joshtd1
12-31-2010, 05:34 AM
Also for what its worth, I really didn't see the great defense today. I saw the Spurs on fire, and and then the Mavs go to a zone that looked horrible and resulted in the Spurs getting tons of wide open looks that we usually make (best 3 point shooting team in league). If Spurs make those wide open shots they normally would it would have been an ever bigger win.

I would love to see the Mavs play that zone again, specially if it was as bad as it looked tonight. Neal/Manu/Anderson/Hill/Bonner will make them pay.

tdunk21
12-31-2010, 05:34 AM
I meant as far as carrying the scoring load. Kidd had like 12, Marion 12.... but nobody really stepped up besides Caron and we still hung tough until the end.

You act like Parker and Manu didn't do much, but they outscored our second and third leading scorers.... 15 and 14 respectively.

The other players on the team play much better with Dirk in the lineup. More space, less pressure, more open shots. The fact that we kept it close without Dirk and beat you with Dirk on the road should show that the Mavs are the better team, but I'm sure you won't see it that way. I am quite confident in the group and how they match up with you, I will just say that.

that is so wrong.. parker and manu didnt do much...coz mavs were playing the zone D, yet parker and manu did not penetrate and were passing up the ball to an open guy who failed to shoot giving up big leads.....as a matter of fact timmy did not get the ball in the 4th quarter bcoz of tony and manu trying to find an open guy to shoot 3pt.....

D Roses Bulls
12-31-2010, 05:51 AM
lebron, durant

This isn't the 2009-2010 season, your a year behind.

tredigs
12-31-2010, 06:01 AM
Also for what its worth, I really didn't see the great defense today. I saw the Spurs on fire, and and then the Mavs go to a zone that looked horrible and resulted in the Spurs getting tons of wide open looks that we usually make (best 3 point shooting team in league). If Spurs make those wide open shots they normally would it would have been an ever bigger win.

I would love to see the Mavs play that zone again, specially if it was as bad as it looked tonight. Neal/Manu/Anderson/Hill/Bonner will make them pay.

^Truth.

A lot could be said about the game, but the bottom line is that there's little to draw from a game where one squad is missing its marquee player, and I think both fans can agree to that.

When's their next matchup?

Joshtd1
12-31-2010, 08:50 AM
^^^ Jan 14th

SteBO
12-31-2010, 10:13 AM
I have NBA league pass, so i've watched the Mavs play plenty and I must say, I've been impressed, especially defensively. I don't see how spurs fans here on this forum can be so excited over this win when Dirk isn't playing. That's kinda ridiculous to me, and the fact that they beat you guys 103-94 in San Antonio when both teams were somewhat at full strength proves a lot more than this game.

But i do want to know how Roddy Beabouis makes a difference, since he hasn't played. Wats his role on your team exactly?

Giraffes Rule
12-31-2010, 01:39 PM
I like that BlondeBomber ignored everyone about Gary Neal when he realized he was wrong. :laugh2: