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Rivera
12-28-2010, 01:58 PM
These are Lebrons Old Comments abt Contraction and how Contraction is good for the NBA


LeBron James seemingly weighs merits of contraction

By Ira Winderman
South Florida Sun Sentinel
9:45 p.m. EST, December 23, 2010


PHOENIX To LeBron James, the attraction of Saturday's Christmas Day game at Staples Center is not as much Miami Heat vs. Los Angeles Lakers as it is having so much star power in one place.

He said that's what made the NBA such a special place in the '80s, when just about every roster was loaded.

"You look back at it in the '80s," he said before Thursday night's game at US Airways Center against the Phoenix Suns, "you had probably 10 teams that had two or three All-Stars on one team, at least. You go from Portland, you go of course to the Bulls, the Lakers, Detroit, Boston, Houston."

James then offered an inventory of stars on each of those teams, before adding, "but it only happens every now and then now."

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The Heat, of course, have that, with James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh, as do the Lakers, with Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom.

Others? No so much.

It was then pointed out to James that the league had far fewer teams back then.

"That's why it was great," he said. "That's what I'm saying."

Asked if he was suggesting contraction, as has been offered as a possibility from Commissioner David Stern amid the league's contentious negotiations for a new collective-bargaining agreement, James said, "That's not my job as a player, but that's why the league was so great."

He then essentially headed down that path in front of the assembled pregame media.

"Just imagine if you could take Kevin Love off Minnesota and add him to another team," he said. "Or, looking at some of the teams that's not that great, you take Brook Lopez or you take Devin Harris off these teams that's not that good right now and add 'em to a team that could be really good.

"I'm not saying, 'Let's take New Jersey, let's take Minnesota out of the league.' But, hey you guys are not stupid. I'm not stupid. I know what would be great for the league."

Ira Winderman can be reached at iwinderman@SunSentinel.com and can be followed at http://twitter.com/iraheatbeat.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/sfl-miami-heat-lebron-james-s122310,0,2104141.story



NOW:
Here is Lebrons New Comments on the NBA and Contraction


MIAMI -- LeBron James welcomes the New Jersey Nets and the Minnesota Timberwolves as part of the NBA, and said that he never intended to advocate contraction in recent comments he made about the league's "watered down" talent level compared to the 1980s.

"That's crazy, because I had no idea what the word 'contraction' meant before I saw it on the Internet," James said after the Miami Heat's practice Monday. "I never even mentioned that. That word never even came out of my mouth. I was just saying how the league was back in the '80s and how it could be good again. I never said, 'Let's take some of the teams out.' "

James found himself Monday in a position of yet again having to clarify some controversial comments. On Thursday, he told reporters before the Heat's game against the Phoenix Suns that he would like to see more stars playing together instead of them being spread out throughout the league.


He also made specific references to the Nets and Timberwolves, including promising forward Kevin Love, in reference to the number of premier players toiling along with struggling teams. James was portrayed in some reports as advocating contraction and the loss of NBA jobs at a time when the league and players' association are haggling over a new collective bargaining agreement.

James, who was named Eastern Conference Player of the Week on Monday, said he was speaking only in hypothetical terms when he suggested what it might be like to remove Love, the league's leading rebounder, from the struggling Timberwolves, or to see some of the Nets' better players on teams that could contend for a championship.

"Imagine if you could take Kevin Love off Minnesota and add him to another team and you shrink the [league]," James said Thursday. "Looking at some of the teams that aren't that great, you take Brook Lopez or you take Devin Harris off these teams that aren't that good right now and you add him to a team that could be really good. Not saying let's take New Jersey and let's take Minnesota out of the league. But hey, you guys are not stupid, I'm not stupid, it would be great for the league."

Several players and league officials fired back in disagreement with James.

Nets coach Avery Johnson, who was part of the recruiting contingent that made a failed pitch to James in free agency last summer, also disagreed with James' notion that having a handful of teams loaded with star players would be a good thing for the NBA.

"Maybe the league would be better if we didn't have three stars on one team," Johnson said in a veiled reference to the Heat's trio of James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh.

"I didn't see his first comment and I didn't see the clarification," Johnson later said. "I just heard about it. I'm not even really interested. Like I said earlier, I think I mentioned it on our conference call [yesterday], it is what it is. I like the league the way it is and we'll keep moving from there."

Los Angeles Lakers guard Derek Fisher, president of the players' association, said James' comments were "surprising" but that he did not know if the two-time MVP's stance would "necessarily hurt our case."


The Heat (22-9) have won 14 of their past 15 games entering Tuesday's visit from the New York Knicks. Monday was not the first time this season James has come out to clarify previous comments.

He revisited comments to CNN about race being a factor in his popularity taking a dip after his free agency decision. James also attempted to clear up critical statements he made about coach Erik Spoelstra having played him too many minutes in a Nov. 11 loss to Boston, the on-court bump between he and Spoelstra on Nov. 27 against Dallas and whether he engaged former Cleveland teammates in friendly banter during a Dec. 2 win against the Cavaliers.

James said he was only trying to show support for a time in the 1980s when teams such as the Lakers, Pistons, Bulls, 76ers and Celtics were dominant with star-studded rosters. James said he did not speak with Fisher, nor anyone else from the players' association, about his comments on the Heat's trip to Los Angeles, where they defeated the Lakers on Saturday.

"I'm with the players, and the players know that," James said Monday. "I've been with the players. It's not about getting guys out of the league or knocking teams out. I didn't mean to upset nobody. I didn't tell Avery Johnson to leave either. I didn't say let's abandon the Nets, and not let them move to Brooklyn or let's tear down the Target Center in Minnesota. I never said that."

Michael Wallace covers the NBA for ESPN.com.




i kinda understand what hes trying to say....but he would have looked ALOT better IMO if he didnt say he didnt know what the word contradiction meant...i mean LBJ isnt that stupid...right?... but then later he uses contradiction in his example abt taking kevin love and brooke lopez n devin harris off there teams and putting them on better ones...and says the league was better in the 80s with fewer teams which is essentialy a contradiction because having fewer teams would mean the NBA would have to contradict a few teams....thoughts???

m26555
12-28-2010, 02:01 PM
LeBron is the A-Rod of basketball; a PR nightmare waiting to happen. He seriously needs to have a publicist monitor every word that comes out of his mouth.

BALLER R
12-28-2010, 02:02 PM
maybe he is that stupid just for the fact he speak to the media..i mean just keep things simple dont go on about something media will make u look like a dumbass whether you are one or not

thekmp211
12-28-2010, 02:07 PM
he's just trying to cover his tracks because he realized he said something done...

...i guess he technically never used the word contraction, though i HIGHLY doubt he was unaware of its meaning until now.

just more fuel to the hater flame

Pierzynski4Prez
12-28-2010, 02:09 PM
I was always under the assumption that you have to be somewhat intelligent to get to the level he has in his life,

But this just makes me shake my head, for him to say something like that. Just admitting to us that he basically is still at a high school level as far as intelligence goes. Something he should have been smart enough to know not to say.

m26555
12-28-2010, 02:11 PM
I was always under the assumption that you have to be somewhat intelligent to get to the level he has in his life,

But this just makes me shake my head, for him to say something like that. Just admitting to us that he basically is still at a high school level as far as intelligence goes. Something he should have been smart enough to know not to say.
It isn't even pure intelligence as much as it is common sense (which I guess you can call intelligence, but I think it's a bit different). James' aloofness with the media has seriously gotten to the point where it's scary. The guy is so out of touch with reality it's not even funny.

Bornknick73
12-28-2010, 02:16 PM
These are Lebrons Old Comments abt Contraction and how Contraction is good for the NBA





NOW:
Here is Lebrons New Comments on the NBA and Contraction




i kinda understand what hes trying to say....but he would have looked ALOT better IMO if he didnt say he didnt know what the word contraction meant...i mean LBJ isnt that stupid...right?... but then later he uses contraction in his example abt taking kevin love and brooke lopez n devin harris off there teams and putting them on better ones...and says the league was better in the 80s with fewer teams which is essentialy a contradiction because having fewer teams would mean the NBA would have to contract a few teams....thoughts???

Fixed

Rivera
12-28-2010, 02:21 PM
Fixed

lol good look i was getting all the contraction contradiction contract all those words mix together

now i am as smart as LBJ :facepalm:

CHANGO
12-28-2010, 05:15 PM
Anything you say Lebron, look bad.

Glen Davis said, "The Magic can not defeat us in a series of 7 games." My question, if Lebron had said that, how many were not criticizing?

krazylegz
12-28-2010, 05:25 PM
we get it,lebron is a fool...must we alwayz post when he acts so stupid...the tips of our fingers would bleed

jtsunami
12-28-2010, 05:25 PM
I think he might have to look up contradiction on the internet too. Darn those big words.

albertc86
12-28-2010, 05:32 PM
Oh, how the tables have turned. Remember when LeBron was the guy to always say the right thing and do no wrong? Now he can't seem to say the right thing or make the right move without looking like a fool. Maybe he should just be the villian of the NBA and drop the good guy act because that's all it was, apparently --- an act. Durant is slowly but surely becoming that good guy of the NBA. Choose a side already, LeBron, and take ownership of your actions.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
12-28-2010, 05:39 PM
What the hell??

he thinks Miami is better than other teams, when they don't even have full attendance.

This guy has no idea what he's talking about.

blahblahyoutoo
12-28-2010, 06:23 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/news/story?id=5960277

never noticed that broussard was dangling all over lebron's nut sack.

kozelkid
12-28-2010, 07:14 PM
Anything you say Lebron, look bad.

Glen Davis said, "The Magic can not defeat us in a series of 7 games." My question, if Lebron had said that, how many were not criticizing?

First of all, there is a huge thread about Glen Davis so quit playing the victim.
Second of all, when Miami proves what Boston has already proven over the last 3 years, then he can trash talk ALL he wants.


Oh, how the tables have turned. Remember when LeBron was the guy to always say the right thing and do no wrong? Now he can't seem to say the right thing or make the right move without looking like a fool. Maybe he should just be the villian of the NBA and drop the good guy act because that's all it was, apparently --- an act. Durant is slowly but surely becoming that good guy of the NBA. Choose a side already, LeBron, and take ownership of your actions.

It's quite simple, he's a player who was cuddled WAY too much since HS. All of a sudden heat (no pun intended) is thrown his way and he can't handle it. I keep saying it, that's the difference between this big 3 and the Pistons in the 80s. Guys like Laimbeer, Isiah, Dumars, Rodman etc all worked their ***es to get here. They were never cuddled since HS. Most of them weren't even lottery picks. That team was the definition of a team that played based on hustle and fundamentals. I hated them, but they played with a passion and I definitely respected them. And they lived on that hate.

Lebron, Wade and Bosh just aren't capable of taking the villian role. That's just not who they are as people and are still struggling to accept that.

With that said, they are still great players. And as great talent and great players they'll still kick *** in the regular season and have one of the best records. I'm just skeptical if they can step it out when they have to go head to head against a tough defensive team like Boston.

Either way, I don't think this "big 3" will ever be comfortable with the situation they are in. Even if media tries to portary otherwise. It's rather obvious when you see comments like these or Lebron trying to be nice to Cleveland after destroying them. Honestly, I'd have respected him more if he trashed that team. Quit sucking up to them and merely accept his role as the villian, but don't go back and forth with this nonsense as you mentioned.